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  What Android App Drawer app do you use most? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-17 08:11 +0000
    Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? Dave Doe <hard@work.ok> - 2016-07-18 02:05 +1200
      Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? David Oseas <doseas{nospam}@usa.net> - 2016-07-17 10:41 -0700
        Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-17 22:04 +0000
      Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-17 22:04 +0000
        Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? Dave Doe <hard@work.ok> - 2016-07-19 14:16 +1200
          Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 05:08 +0000
          Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-19 08:57 -0400
    Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-17 14:06 -0400
      Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-17 22:04 +0000
        Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-18 09:38 -0400
          Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 16:20 +0000
            Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-18 12:50 -0400
              Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 23:47 +0000
                Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-18 21:21 -0400
                  Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 01:43 +0000
                    Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-18 21:49 -0400
                      Re: What Android App Drawer app do you use most? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 05:37 +0000

#31984 — What Android App Drawer app do you use most?

What Android App Drawer app do you use most?

On the iOS groups, some of the iOS folks were saying that you can't sort 
the apps in the Android App Drawer any way you want.

So, I showed them that there really is no such thing as "the" Android App 
drawer, since there are quite a few Android App Drawer apps and even the 
default Android App Drawer for your particular launcher is simply an app.

Here, for example, are the 8 or so App Drawer apps on my Samsung S3:
I've recently played with: http://i.cubeupload.com/wy7W8j.gif 

Here is the setting to sort the apps any way I like:
http://i.cubeupload.com/AMqU22.gif 

And, here is an example of me manually changing the sort order:
http://i.cubeupload.com/FZPzQx.gif 

Basically you can do *anything* you want with these full-fledged app
drawer apps on Android. 

Here's just one choice, which can sort by a variety of methods:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=JakedUp.AppDrawer&hl=en 

Here's another:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.ebt.appswitch&hl=en App

And another:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=au.radsoft.appdrawer&hl=en

And this App Drawer app organizes the apps by labels:
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.code.appsorganizer&hl=en

Of course, Spotlight-like search was always there with just a long press:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/09/19/tip-the-latest-version-of-the-google
-now-launcher-lets-you-long-press-the-app-drawer-to-immediately-search
-installed-apps/

This shows how to add folders and tabs to your App Drawer app:
http://trendblog.net/folders-and-tabs-android-app-drawer-menu/ 

And the list of App Drawer apps goes on (and on and on).

What Android App Drawer app do you use most?

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#31994

In article <nmfejs$v5i$1@gioia.aioe.org>, aardvarks@a.b.c.com, Aardvarks 
says...
> 
> What Android App Drawer app do you use most?
> 
> On the iOS groups, some of the iOS folks were saying that you can't sort 
> the apps in the Android App Drawer any way you want.
> 
> So, I showed them that there really is no such thing as "the" Android App 
> drawer, since there are quite a few Android App Drawer apps and even the 
> default Android App Drawer for your particular launcher is simply an app.
> 
> Here, for example, are the 8 or so App Drawer apps on my Samsung S3:
> I've recently played with: http://i.cubeupload.com/wy7W8j.gif 
> 
> Here is the setting to sort the apps any way I like:
> http://i.cubeupload.com/AMqU22.gif 
> 
> And, here is an example of me manually changing the sort order:
> http://i.cubeupload.com/FZPzQx.gif 
> 
> Basically you can do *anything* you want with these full-fledged app
> drawer apps on Android. 
> 
> Here's just one choice, which can sort by a variety of methods:
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=JakedUp.AppDrawer&hl=en 
> 
> Here's another:
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.ebt.appswitch&hl=en App
> 
> And another:
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=au.radsoft.appdrawer&hl=en
> 
> And this App Drawer app organizes the apps by labels:
> play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.code.appsorganizer&hl=en
> 
> Of course, Spotlight-like search was always there with just a long press:
> http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/09/19/tip-the-latest-version-of-the-google
> -now-launcher-lets-you-long-press-the-app-drawer-to-immediately-search
> -installed-apps/
> 
> This shows how to add folders and tabs to your App Drawer app:
> http://trendblog.net/folders-and-tabs-android-app-drawer-menu/ 
> 
> And the list of App Drawer apps goes on (and on and on).
> 
> What Android App Drawer app do you use most?

Isn't the proper Android terminology, Launcher, rather than App Drawer.

I quite like Arrow Launcher, but went back to a Launcher that lets me 
put stuff where I like.  However, if you like a learning Launcher, it's 
pretty cool.

I nnow use the ol' Google Now Launcher.

-- 
Duncan.

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#31996

On 7/17/2016 7:05 AM, Dave Doe wrote:

 >
 > Isn't the proper Android terminology, Launcher, rather than App Drawer.
 >

The app drawer is just one component used by a Launcher.  It is possible 
to replace the default app drawer component in most Launchers.

The icon for the app drawer component usually looks like a grid of small 
squares.

-David

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#32017

On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:41:58 -0700, David Oseas wrote:

> The app drawer is just one component used by a Launcher.  It is possible 
> to replace the default app drawer component in most Launchers.

This is correct.
In fact, it's entirely possible to have a launcher app which doesn't have
the concept of a default App Drawer app (but you could still add any app
drawer app you want).

For example, in iOS, the launcher app doesn't have the concept of an app
drawer app (and you can't add an app drawer app, because they don't exist).

And LG is toying with releasing an Android launcher app that doesn't have
the concept either.

They're two totally separate things:
a. Launcher app (the entire look and feel)
b. App Drawer app (just the apps you have installed)

> The icon for the app drawer component usually looks like a grid of small 
> squares.

Yup. And you can delete that icon, so that some people can't find it
because it's in the app drawer app, which is hidden. Heh heh ... 

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#32018

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 02:05:35 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

> Isn't the proper Android terminology, Launcher, rather than App Drawer.
> 
> I quite like Arrow Launcher, but went back to a Launcher that lets me 
> put stuff where I like.  However, if you like a learning Launcher, it's 
> pretty cool.
> 
> I nnow use the ol' Google Now Launcher.

You have a great point in that, in order to communicate effectively on
Usenet, we need to understand the words used.

Without looking them up, to me, a *launcher* is something like "TouchWiz"
(which came with my S3) or "Google Now" which came with my MotoG, or "Nova
Free" which I put on my S3, etc.

Each launcher changes a *tremendous* amount of "things" in the desktop GUI,
from how you delete icons from the desktop to what shape those icons are,
and whether or not you can create empty folders, and what the grid looks
like and what the tab style is and the scroll effect and the menu action
items, and the default app grid and the dock capabilities, and the
ok-google search position, and the backup and import features and the
default home and the gestures and buttons and the unread count pins and the
desktop shape and look and feel, and, oh, yes, and what the default App
Drawer look and feel will be.

Point is, the launcher is a *lot* of things, only one of which might be the
look and feel of the *default* app drawer app.

In addition to the launcher, as you can see in my original screenshots, you
can add any app drawer app you want, which gives you *further* options in
the look and feel of the app drawer app.

Now, nospam will say there is only *one* app drawer, and that is the
*default* app drawer, but that will be confusing to most intelligent people
because each launcher comes with a different app drawer app (e.g., the
default app drawer in TouchWiz has a totally different look and feel to the
default app drawer in Nova).

Plus, as you can see from my screenshots, I have more than half a dozen app
drawer apps on my S3.

In summary, nobody would mistake a launcher for an app drawer, so we can
lay that one to rest. And, it may be semantics to claim that there is only
one app drawer. If there is, then that changes nothing since the rest of
the "whatever you call them" app drawers do the same thing.

So, whether or not there is one and only one "app drawer" is only something
the Apple people will argue about (because they don't have or understand
the concept of an App Drawer).

All I'm asking here is what App Drawer app do you use most and why?

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#32160

In article <nmgvdt$165o$3@gioia.aioe.org>, aardvarks@a.b.c.com, 
Aardvarks says...
> 
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 02:05:35 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:
> 
> > Isn't the proper Android terminology, Launcher, rather than App Drawer.
> > 
> > I quite like Arrow Launcher, but went back to a Launcher that lets me 
> > put stuff where I like.  However, if you like a learning Launcher, it's 
> > pretty cool.
> > 
> > I nnow use the ol' Google Now Launcher.
> 
> You have a great point in that, in order to communicate effectively on
> Usenet, we need to understand the words used.
> 
> Without looking them up, to me, a *launcher* is something like "TouchWiz"
> (which came with my S3) or "Google Now" which came with my MotoG, or "Nova
> Free" which I put on my S3, etc.
> 
> Each launcher changes a *tremendous* amount of "things" in the desktop GUI,
> from how you delete icons from the desktop to what shape those icons are,
> and whether or not you can create empty folders, and what the grid looks
> like and what the tab style is and the scroll effect and the menu action
> items, and the default app grid and the dock capabilities, and the
> ok-google search position, and the backup and import features and the
> default home and the gestures and buttons and the unread count pins and the
> desktop shape and look and feel, and, oh, yes, and what the default App
> Drawer look and feel will be.
> 
> Point is, the launcher is a *lot* of things, only one of which might be the
> look and feel of the *default* app drawer app.
> 
> In addition to the launcher, as you can see in my original screenshots, you
> can add any app drawer app you want, which gives you *further* options in
> the look and feel of the app drawer app.
> 
> Now, nospam will say there is only *one* app drawer, and that is the
> *default* app drawer, but that will be confusing to most intelligent people
> because each launcher comes with a different app drawer app (e.g., the
> default app drawer in TouchWiz has a totally different look and feel to the
> default app drawer in Nova).
> 
> Plus, as you can see from my screenshots, I have more than half a dozen app
> drawer apps on my S3.
> 
> In summary, nobody would mistake a launcher for an app drawer, so we can
> lay that one to rest. And, it may be semantics to claim that there is only
> one app drawer. If there is, then that changes nothing since the rest of
> the "whatever you call them" app drawers do the same thing.
> 
> So, whether or not there is one and only one "app drawer" is only something
> the Apple people will argue about (because they don't have or understand
> the concept of an App Drawer).
> 
> All I'm asking here is what App Drawer app do you use most and why?

OK, understood.  I'll have to have a play around and see what App 
Drawers are available for Google Now.  I assume any Launcher potentially 
has different App Drawers.

BTW: how do I find App Drawers for Google Now?


-- 
Duncan.

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#32188

On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:16:52 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

> OK, understood.  I'll have to have a play around and see what App 
> Drawers are available for Google Now.  I assume any Launcher potentially 
> has different App Drawers.
> 
> BTW: how do I find App Drawers for Google Now?

I think *all* app drawer apps are available in *all* launchers, so, just
searching in Google Play for "app drawer" should get them all for you (or
most of them, as they are not all called "app drawer").

I'm no expert - but I think the way it may work is that *each launcher* has
a *default* app drawer app; but that every launcher can handle ever app
drawer app.

You can even install a dozen different app-drawer apps if you like, since
they're just apps.

If you want to start with a good App Drawer app, try "App Swap". I have
version 1.0.0.500, App Swap-net.ebt.appswitch-5000002-v1.0.0.500.apk

That App Drawer app organizes apps any way you want.
It can even *hide* apps from the app drawer (although I'm not sure why
you'd want to hide apps in the app drawer).

It searches for apps by name.
It can display either the application name or the package name.
It automatically organizes all apps by however Google organizes them.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ZUZqUj.png

And it sorts them alphabetically if you want.
Or it sorts them by category if you want.
Or it sorts by most often launched if you want.
Or it sorts them manually if you want.
It can even sort by *color* for heaven's sake!

Just to prove the sort by color, here's a "red" sort on my phone:
http://i.cubeupload.com/vDUJTL.png

And here is a green sort on my phone:
http://i.cubeupload.com/BrW6so.png

And here is a blue sort:
http://i.cubeupload.com/ahuCVI.png

You can tag them any way you like, where the point is you can sort by 
almost anything you can think of.

If you find a *better* App Drawer app, let me know because I'm always
looking for better freeware.

PS: App Ops Starter also sorts apps by "type" of app.
PS: App Backup & Restore also sorts apps by size or date installed.

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#32221

On 7/18/2016 10:16 PM, Dave Doe wrote:
> In article <nmgvdt$165o$3@gioia.aioe.org>, aardvarks@a.b.c.com,
> Aardvarks says...
>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 02:05:35 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't the proper Android terminology, Launcher, rather than App Drawer.
>>>
>>> I quite like Arrow Launcher, but went back to a Launcher that lets me
>>> put stuff where I like.  However, if you like a learning Launcher, it's
>>> pretty cool.
>>>
>>> I nnow use the ol' Google Now Launcher.
>> You have a great point in that, in order to communicate effectively on
>> Usenet, we need to understand the words used.
>>
>> Without looking them up, to me, a *launcher* is something like "TouchWiz"
>> (which came with my S3) or "Google Now" which came with my MotoG, or "Nova
>> Free" which I put on my S3, etc.
>>
>> Each launcher changes a *tremendous* amount of "things" in the desktop GUI,
>> from how you delete icons from the desktop to what shape those icons are,
>> and whether or not you can create empty folders, and what the grid looks
>> like and what the tab style is and the scroll effect and the menu action
>> items, and the default app grid and the dock capabilities, and the
>> ok-google search position, and the backup and import features and the
>> default home and the gestures and buttons and the unread count pins and the
>> desktop shape and look and feel, and, oh, yes, and what the default App
>> Drawer look and feel will be.
>>
>> Point is, the launcher is a *lot* of things, only one of which might be the
>> look and feel of the *default* app drawer app.
>>
>> In addition to the launcher, as you can see in my original screenshots, you
>> can add any app drawer app you want, which gives you *further* options in
>> the look and feel of the app drawer app.
>>
>> Now, nospam will say there is only *one* app drawer, and that is the
>> *default* app drawer, but that will be confusing to most intelligent people
>> because each launcher comes with a different app drawer app (e.g., the
>> default app drawer in TouchWiz has a totally different look and feel to the
>> default app drawer in Nova).
>>
>> Plus, as you can see from my screenshots, I have more than half a dozen app
>> drawer apps on my S3.
>>
>> In summary, nobody would mistake a launcher for an app drawer, so we can
>> lay that one to rest. And, it may be semantics to claim that there is only
>> one app drawer. If there is, then that changes nothing since the rest of
>> the "whatever you call them" app drawers do the same thing.
>>
>> So, whether or not there is one and only one "app drawer" is only something
>> the Apple people will argue about (because they don't have or understand
>> the concept of an App Drawer).
>>
>> All I'm asking here is what App Drawer app do you use most and why?
> OK, understood.  I'll have to have a play around and see what App
> Drawers are available for Google Now.  I assume any Launcher potentially
> has different App Drawers.
>
> BTW: how do I find App Drawers for Google Now?
>
>
Here's a good starting point: 
http://www.androidauthority.com/best-android-launcher-apps-222408/

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#32004

In article <nmfejs$v5i$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

> What Android App Drawer app do you use most?

there is only one app drawer, which is part of android itself.

> On the iOS groups, some of the iOS folks were saying that you can't sort 
> the apps in the Android App Drawer any way you want.
> 
> So, I showed them that there really is no such thing as "the" Android App 
> drawer, since there are quite a few Android App Drawer apps and even the 
> default Android App Drawer for your particular launcher is simply an app.

as usual, you're wrong.

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#32016

On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:06:04 -0400, nospam wrote:

> there is only one app drawer, which is part of android itself.

It's an interesting point that nospam brings up which is the semantics of
what we *name* the *default* app drawer app for each Android launcher app.

For example, my Samsung Galaxy S3 came with the "TouchWiz" launcher app,
which had a default App Drawer app which organized the apps one way.

When I moved to Nova as my launcher app, it had a *different* default app
drawer app, which organized the apps a different way.

Meanwhile, I have 8 or so additional app drawer apps, each of which can run
within any launcher app, which also can organized the apps in meaningful
ways.

Given that observation, would the Android afficianados here say there is
one and only one App Launcher app, or are there many to choose from?

 

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#32062

In article <nmgvd7$165o$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

> 
> > there is only one app drawer, which is part of android itself.
> 
> It's an interesting point that nospam brings up which is the semantics of
> what we *name* the *default* app drawer app for each Android launcher app.
> 
> For example, my Samsung Galaxy S3 came with the "TouchWiz" launcher app,
> which had a default App Drawer app which organized the apps one way.

that's what i originally said.

> When I moved to Nova as my launcher app, it had a *different* default app
> drawer app, which organized the apps a different way.

that's not out of the box, one of your 'requirements'.

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#32082

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:38:20 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> For example, my Samsung Galaxy S3 came with the "TouchWiz" launcher app,
>> which had a default App Drawer app which organized the apps one way.
> 
> that's what i originally said.
> 
>> When I moved to Nova as my launcher app, it had a *different* default app
>> drawer app, which organized the apps a different way.
> 
> that's not out of the box, one of your 'requirements'.

Oooooh. I get it. 
You're playing a silly game with me.

OK. At least I am finally understanding the silly games you play.

You previously suggested *sideline*, so, I know you *knew* that
out-of-the-box meant "jailbroken" (and not factory reset).

Otherwise, you couldn't have suggested sideline as a solution.

I only added the caveat of not factory reset (which I called "out of the
box") because of the silly games I knew that Jolly Roger plays (he says
*everything* can be done by an 8 year old who can jailbreak iOS in 5
minutes).

I guess it's my fault for not hiring a lawyer to write my Usenet posts.

And, of course, you *knew* that out of the box meant not jailbroken,
because you already gleefully proclaimed sideline and you confirmed the
crippleware manual call recorder - so - you're just playing a silly
sementics game with me.

While you'll "doth protest too much", what you're simply trying to do is
"save face" since you were completely unaware of the power of the various
App Drawer apps on Android.

OK. I'll let you save face.
It's "my" fault for not being clear.

Now that I understand that you bought iEquipment for two reasons:
1. To feel good about yourself given the cachet created by Apple Marketing
2. To feel safe inside the herd mentality orchestrated by Apple Marketing

I now understand why you are playing this silly semantics game with me.
At least I finally understand why you do what you do.

It's my fault.
I apologize.
By "out of the box", I didn't mean "factory reset" but "with the original
operating system".

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#32091

In article <nmivjc$4ah$7@gioia.aioe.org>, Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

> 
> Oooooh. I get it. 
> You're playing a silly game with me.
> 
> OK. At least I am finally understanding the silly games you play.

it ain't me who is playing games.

> You previously suggested *sideline*, so, I know you *knew* that
> out-of-the-box meant "jailbroken" (and not factory reset).
>
> Otherwise, you couldn't have suggested sideline as a solution.

sideline does not require jailbreaking.

> I only added the caveat of not factory reset (which I called "out of the
> box") because of the silly games I knew that Jolly Roger plays (he says
> *everything* can be done by an 8 year old who can jailbreak iOS in 5
> minutes).

you added that requirement because you were caught being wrong.

> I guess it's my fault for not hiring a lawyer to write my Usenet posts.

start with someone with an iq higher than the posted speed limit.

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#32137

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 12:50:36 -0400, nospam wrote:

> it ain't me who is playing games.
> 
>> You previously suggested *sideline*, so, I know you *knew* that
>> out-of-the-box meant "jailbroken" (and not factory reset).
>>
>> Otherwise, you couldn't have suggested sideline as a solution.
> 
> sideline does not require jailbreaking.
> 
>> I only added the caveat of not factory reset (which I called "out of the
>> box") because of the silly games I knew that Jolly Roger plays (he says
>> *everything* can be done by an 8 year old who can jailbreak iOS in 5
>> minutes).
> 
> you added that requirement because you were caught being wrong.
> 
>> I guess it's my fault for not hiring a lawyer to write my Usenet posts.
> 
> start with someone with an iq higher than the posted speed limit.

I admit that when I said "out of the box" I had meant "not jailbroken" as
it matters not that the phone is "factory reset".

However, since I was unclear, I will be clear now in that this is a
question about what app drawer app people use most.

The implication is clear that they can use *any* app drawer app they want.

SO, I'm just asking them what app drawer app they use most.
I'm not asking about an app that only runs on jailbroken devices.

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#32155

In article <nmjppu$1ebo$5@gioia.aioe.org>, Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

> 
> > it ain't me who is playing games.
> > 
> >> You previously suggested *sideline*, so, I know you *knew* that
> >> out-of-the-box meant "jailbroken" (and not factory reset).
> >>
> >> Otherwise, you couldn't have suggested sideline as a solution.
> > 
> > sideline does not require jailbreaking.
> > 
> >> I only added the caveat of not factory reset (which I called "out of the
> >> box") because of the silly games I knew that Jolly Roger plays (he says
> >> *everything* can be done by an 8 year old who can jailbreak iOS in 5
> >> minutes).
> > 
> > you added that requirement because you were caught being wrong.
> > 
> >> I guess it's my fault for not hiring a lawyer to write my Usenet posts.
> > 
> > start with someone with an iq higher than the posted speed limit.
> 
> I admit that when I said "out of the box" I had meant "not jailbroken" as
> it matters not that the phone is "factory reset".
> 
> However, since I was unclear, I will be clear now in that this is a
> question about what app drawer app people use most.
> 
> The implication is clear that they can use *any* app drawer app they want.
> 
> SO, I'm just asking them what app drawer app they use most.
> I'm not asking about an app that only runs on jailbroken devices.

moving the goalposts once again.

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#32158

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 21:21:16 -0400, nospam wrote:

> moving the goalposts once again.

You say that as if you actually *believe* it.
This used to frustrate me; but now I understand you.
And, I'm no longer frustrated by your words.

BTW, below is (verbatim) the OP.
Clearly I was talking about App Drawer "apps".
So, only "you" moved the goalposts; I never did.
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What Android App Drawer app do you use most?

On the iOS groups, some of the iOS folks were saying that you can't sort 
the apps in the Android App Drawer any way you want.

So, I showed them that there really is no such thing as "the" Android App 
drawer, since there are quite a few Android App Drawer apps and even the 
default Android App Drawer for your particular launcher is simply an app.

Here, for example, are the 8 or so App Drawer apps on my Samsung S3
... ...
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#32159

In article <nmk0jm$1ljv$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

> 
> > moving the goalposts once again.
> 
> You say that as if you actually *believe* it.


once again, you snipped to alter context.

you brought up jailbreaking and the sideline app, which doesn't need
jailbreaking.

In article <nmivjc$4ah$7@gioia.aioe.org>, Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote: 
> You previously suggested *sideline*, so, I know you *knew* that
> out-of-the-box meant "jailbroken" (and not factory reset).
>

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#32194

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 21:49:54 -0400, nospam wrote:

> once again, you snipped to alter context.

Ok. So we agree that there are *plenty* of app drawer apps then.

And that they have tremendously more functionality than does an iOS folder
simply named "App Drawer".
http://i.cubeupload.com/ZUZqUj.png

I used to wonder why you make things that are so simple so difficult, but
then I realized you bought only on cachet and herd-safety, so, you
represent the thinking of the average iOS user.

As such, you make the simplest things difficult.

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