Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > comp.mobile.android > #31681 > unrolled thread
| Started by | Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> |
|---|---|
| First post | 2016-07-14 23:20 +0000 |
| Last post | 2016-07-16 20:31 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 181 — 17 participants |
Back to article view | Back to comp.mobile.android
Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-14 23:20 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 19:22 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 01:50 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 21:51 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 02:00 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 22:09 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 01:55 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-14 23:23 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-07-14 18:59 -0500
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 01:51 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-07-14 21:20 -0500
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-07-15 14:19 +1200
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-07-14 21:31 -0500
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 01:29 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:43 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-15 16:36 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:43 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-18 14:33 +0200
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 18:20 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 18:21 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-18 20:37 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 22:57 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-18 23:06 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 00:08 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 01:29 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-15 10:03 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 10:38 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-15 11:17 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 12:41 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-15 17:07 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:32 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:12 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 15:16 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:36 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:58 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:52 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-07-15 11:26 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:31 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:43 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 15:16 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:37 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? ElfinArc6 <eflinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 14:40 -0500
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 20:04 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 16:39 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 03:47 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-18 14:45 +0200
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 18:19 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-18 18:57 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 22:33 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-18 22:53 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-19 09:06 +0200
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-19 07:37 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 23:00 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 23:20 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 19:29 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 00:17 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 01:25 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 01:45 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 02:03 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 04:11 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 17:05 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 21:26 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 01:43 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 01:45 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 02:07 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 04:13 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 05:22 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-07-19 16:31 -0700
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 19:37 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 01:45 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 02:09 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 03:56 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-20 04:42 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 15:53 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 12:18 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 17:12 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 13:21 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 01:44 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-07-19 19:08 -0700
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 04:03 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-19 23:23 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 01:44 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 02:02 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 04:06 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 17:04 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 18:34 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 01:45 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 02:03 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 04:10 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-20 09:11 +0200
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 18:34 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 23:00 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-19 23:28 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 01:56 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 05:25 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-07-19 03:51 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 04:32 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 01:01 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 05:14 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-18 10:56 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 18:19 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 00:07 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-19 03:05 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 04:42 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-19 05:00 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 05:22 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-19 05:35 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 05:45 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 01:50 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 06:05 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 10:55 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-07-19 08:45 -0700
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 13:20 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 18:30 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-19 22:41 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 03:41 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 02:44 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 02:27 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 22:56 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 03:41 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 18:36 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 14:55 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-07-20 12:38 -0700
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 15:46 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-07-20 13:13 -0700
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 14:45 -0700
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-21 02:25 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-21 00:15 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 04:47 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-21 14:08 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-21 18:44 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-21 18:58 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-21 19:14 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-21 19:17 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-21 18:31 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 18:46 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-21 18:44 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-21 18:44 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-21 04:44 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? crankpuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 05:03 -0600
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-21 14:11 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-21 18:44 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-21 18:31 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-21 18:44 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-21 18:51 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-21 19:17 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-21 19:19 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-21 21:43 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-21 18:30 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? crankpuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 06:22 -0600
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-22 15:01 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-22 11:35 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-22 16:04 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 13:23 -0600
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 03:41 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 23:00 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-19 06:18 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 03:41 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 05:17 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:43 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 01:55 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 21:56 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 02:04 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 22:09 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-07-15 01:32 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:32 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 15:37 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-07-15 13:17 -0700
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 03:58 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-15 10:42 +0200
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:34 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 01:08 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-17 03:12 +0000
SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? (was: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities?) Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 20:07 +0000
Re: SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 04:29 +0000
Re: SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-16 02:42 -0400
Re: SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 20:31 +0000
Page 1 of 10 [1] 2 3 … 10 Next page →
| From | Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-14 23:20 +0000 |
| Subject | Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? |
| Message-ID | <nm96ni$122e$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
This is NOT a technical question. This is a PSYCHOLOGOY question. *Why do Apple Apologists lie constatnly about iOS capabilities?* In another thread, I listed at least a dozen things I do on Android every day that just aren't possible on my iOS devices, and both nospam and Michael Eyd said they could easily do most of those things on iOS. Yet, they supplied zero proof. They just said "bullshit" and "Easily possible on iOS". Fact is, they can't do *any* of those things on iOS. That's why I listed them (in response to a question from someone of what you can do on Android that you can't do on iOS). Of course, even they *know* these things can't be done on iOS; so the question is the PSYCHOLOGY question of *why* do they lie so much? This is not a technical question. It's a question about Apple Apologists' PSYCHOLOGY? What is it about their mind set that allows them to lie so blatantly? Are they (like used car salesmen perhaps?) so used to telling lies left and right where nobody challenges them ever? Can they possibly be so stupid as to not know the least bit about the iOS operating environment? They can't actually be *that* stupid - and the fact that they can't possibly show a shred of proof of what they say, proves that they know teh answer. So why do they lie in almost every post? What is it about their PSYCHOLOGY that makes them do that? REFERENCE: On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 05:04:43 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks wrote: Subject: Re: Porting from Nexus 5 to iPhone 6 (A1549) T-Mobile Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 05:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <nm76ha$1u9e$1@gioia.aioe.org>
[toc] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-14 19:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <140720161922132452%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #31681 |
In article <nm96ni$122e$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote: > This is NOT a technical question. > This is a PSYCHOLOGOY question. > > *Why do Apple Apologists lie constatnly about iOS capabilities?* translated: why do trolls keep trolling?
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-15 01:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nm9fgj$1aju$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #31683 |
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:22:13 -0400, nospam wrote: > translated: > why do trolls keep trolling? Which of these did you say was "bullshit" again? - Ability to load software outside the Apple ecosystem - Ability to change the launcher to entirely change the look & feel - Ability to change the keyboard (e.g., the ability to define keys) - Ability to control what data programs have access to from other programs - Ability to traverse & modify the entire file system (or almost all of it) - Ability for free second-line telephone numbers such as "Sideline" - Ability to use the "real" Tor Browser Bundle and "Obot" VPN - Ability to redirect files & types of files at will (File Redirector) - Ability to perform wardriving tasks (such as what WiGle WiFi does) - Ability to *graph* WiFi signal strengths (the iOS solution is primitive) - Ability to organize the desktop with icons on any grid whatsoever - Ability to not clutter your desktop with rarely used icons - Ability to have icons in multiple places for logical organization - Ability to create empty named placeholder folders for organization - Ability to automatically record calls in juristictions where it's legal - Ability to switch between launchers at will - Ability to use bitTorrent applications at will - Ability to store installers to user-defined locations (for use elsewhere) - Ability to have a fully-functional "App Drawer" for rarely used apps
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-14 21:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <140720162151052309%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #31698 |
In article <nm9fgj$1aju$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote: > > > translated: > > why do trolls keep trolling? > > Which of these did you say was "bullshit" again? all
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-15 02:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nm9g4c$1b4i$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #31701 |
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 21:51:05 -0400, nospam wrote: >> Which of these did you say was "bullshit" again? > > all This is what I don't get about the Apple Apologists' psychology. You say all of the following can be done on an out-of-the-box iPhone. Yet, you know *none* of the following can be done. So, *why* do you lie? What are you hoping to accomplish by lying? You say all these things can be done on an out-of-the-box iOS device: - Load software outside the Apple ecosystem - Change the launcher to entirely change the look & feel - Control what data programs have access to from other programs - Traverse & modify the entire file system (or almost all of it) - Add a free second-line telephone numbers such as "Sideline" - Install the "real" Tor Browser Bundle and "Obot" anonymous VPN - Redirect files & types of files at will (File Redirector) - Perform detailed wardriving (such as what WiGle WiFi does) - Organize the desktop with icons on any grid whatsoever - Hide *any* icon whatsoever no matter what the icon is - Put icons in multiple places for logical organization - Create empty named placeholder folders for organization - Automatically record calls in juristictions where it's legal - Use bitTorrent applications to download torrent files - Automatically store installers offline to user storage - Then *use* those offline installers on other similar mobile devices - Use a *fully-functional* "App Drawer" for rarely used apps That's a dozen and a half things that I do all the time on Android, that you say I can do on my iOS devices. Yet you never provide any proof. Why do you lie? What is it about your personality that makes you apologize so badly for Apple products that you have to lie in order to feel better about them? What is it in your personality that makes you lie so very much?
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-14 22:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <140720162209248208%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #31706 |
In article <nm9g4c$1b4i$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote: > > >> Which of these did you say was "bullshit" again? > > > > all > > This is what I don't get about the Apple Apologists' psychology. > You say all of the following can be done on an out-of-the-box iPhone. > Yet, you know *none* of the following can be done. i *know* that they can because i've *done* them. just because *you* personally don't know how doesn't mean it's impossible. it just means you're ignorant. and actually, you do know how to do many of them because *you've* *been* *told* *how* yet you keep lying that they're impossible. what the fuck is up with that? give it up already. get whatever devices you want and believe whatever you want to believe. nobody but you gives a fuck. > Yet you never provide any proof. > Why do you lie? > > What is it about your personality that makes you apologize so badly for > Apple products that you have to lie in order to feel better about them? > > What is it in your personality that makes you lie so very much? questions everyone asks about you. just substitute android for apple products in what you wrote.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-15 01:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nm9fqc$1aq1$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #31698 |
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 01:50:12 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks wrote: > Which of these did you say was "bullshit" again? Here is the list cleaned up. - Ability to load software outside the Apple ecosystem - Ability to change the launcher to entirely change the look & feel - Ability to control what data programs have access to from other programs - Ability to traverse & modify the entire file system (or almost all of it) - Ability for free second-line telephone numbers such as "Sideline" - Ability to use the "real" Tor Browser Bundle and "Obot" anonymous VPN - Ability to redirect files & types of files at will (File Redirector) - Ability to perform detailed wardriving (such as what WiGle WiFi does) - Ability to organize the desktop with icons on any grid whatsoever - Ability to hide *any* icon whatsoever no matter what the icon is - Ability to have icons in multiple places for logical organization - Ability to create empty named placeholder folders for organization - Ability to automatically record calls in juristictions where it's legal - Ability to use bitTorrent applications at will - Ability to automatically store installers offline to user storage - Ability to *use* those installers on similar mobile devices offline - Ability to have a *fully-functional* "App Drawer" for rarely used app
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-14 23:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nm96tu$126b$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #31681 |
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 23:20:19 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks wrote: > REFERENCE: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 05:04:43 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks wrote: > Subject: Re: Porting from Nexus 5 to iPhone 6 (A1549) T-Mobile > Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 05:04:43 +0000 (UTC) > Message-ID: <nm76ha$1u9e$1@gioia.aioe.org> Since I prove what I say, here is the exact post they both were responding to, where they lie so blatantly, that they can only be either: a. Incredibly naieve, or b. Incredibly duplicitous Why do they lie so much is the question. The fact they blatantly lie isn't in question. This is a PSYCHOLOGY question. ------------------------------------- On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 23:29:34 -0400, FPP wrote: > Things? What things? Hammer nails, what? You must be joking if you don't know the huge limitations of the Apple ecosystem when it comes to "doing things" with the phone out of the box as compared to doing things with Android out of the box. The out of the box capability comparison isn't even fair when it comes to what you can do on Android to what you can't do on iOS. It's not even close. Jolly Roger will scream that you can do "some" of these things if you root the iPhone, but we're talking apples to apples, out of the box iOs and Android base capabilities here. Some of the many things you can't do with Apple equipment are the direct result of design limitations of the hardware (e.g., lack of cheap removable external storage cards), but most of the myriad Apple limitations are self-imposed software limitations imposed by Apple, often for purely marketing reasons (IMHO). Nonetheless, for whatever reasons, and without having to resort to rooting, I'll tell you, offhand, some of the self-imposed limitations of the Apple ecosystem which Android doesn't have... (in off-the-cuff order)... - Ability to load software outside the Apple ecosystem - Ability to change the launcher to entirely change the look & feel - Ability to change the keyboard (e.g., the ability to define keys) - Ability to control what data programs have access to from other programs - Ability to traverse & modify the entire file system (or almost all of it) - Ability for free second-line telephone numbers such as "Sideline" - Ability to use the "real" Tor Browser Bundle and "Obot" VPN - Ability to redirect files & types of files at will (File Redirector) - Ability to perform wardriving tasks (such as what WiGle WiFi does) - Ability to *graph* WiFi signal strengths (the iOS solution is primitive) - Ability to organize the desktop with icons on any grid whatsoever - Ability to not clutter your desktop with rarely used icons - Ability to have icons in multiple places for logical organization - Ability to create empty named placeholder folders for organization - Ability to automatically record calls in juristictions where it's legal - Ability to switch between launchers at will - Ability to use bitTorrent applications at will - Ability to store installers to user-defined locations (for use elsewhere) - Ability to have a fully-functional "App Drawer" for rarely used apps I'm sure there are plenty more, but those are only the things I do on my Android device out of the box that can't be done on iOS out of the box.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-14 18:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <3k9gobhlt6dpcvaqlueeil44tlkpqv638o@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #31684 |
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 23:23:43 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote: >On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 23:20:19 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks wrote: > >> REFERENCE: >> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 05:04:43 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks wrote: >> Subject: Re: Porting from Nexus 5 to iPhone 6 (A1549) T-Mobile >> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 05:04:43 +0000 (UTC) >> Message-ID: <nm76ha$1u9e$1@gioia.aioe.org> > >Since I prove what I say, here is the exact post they both were responding >to, where they lie so blatantly, that they can only be either: >a. Incredibly naieve, or >b. Incredibly duplicitous > >Why do they lie so much is the question. >The fact they blatantly lie isn't in question. >This is a PSYCHOLOGY question. >------------------------------------- >On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 23:29:34 -0400, FPP wrote: > >> Things? What things? Hammer nails, what? > >You must be joking if you don't know the huge limitations of the Apple >ecosystem when it comes to "doing things" with the phone out of the box as >compared to doing things with Android out of the box. > >The out of the box capability comparison isn't even fair when it comes to >what you can do on Android to what you can't do on iOS. It's not even >close. > >Jolly Roger will scream that you can do "some" of these things if you root >the iPhone, but we're talking apples to apples, out of the box iOs and >Android base capabilities here. > >Some of the many things you can't do with Apple equipment are the direct >result of design limitations of the hardware (e.g., lack of cheap removable >external storage cards), but most of the myriad Apple limitations are >self-imposed software limitations imposed by Apple, often for purely >marketing reasons (IMHO). > >Nonetheless, for whatever reasons, and without having to resort to rooting, >I'll tell you, offhand, some of the self-imposed limitations of the Apple >ecosystem which Android doesn't have... (in off-the-cuff order)... >- Ability to load software outside the Apple ecosystem >- Ability to change the launcher to entirely change the look & feel >- Ability to change the keyboard (e.g., the ability to define keys) >- Ability to control what data programs have access to from other programs >- Ability to traverse & modify the entire file system (or almost all of it) >- Ability for free second-line telephone numbers such as "Sideline" >- Ability to use the "real" Tor Browser Bundle and "Obot" VPN >- Ability to redirect files & types of files at will (File Redirector) >- Ability to perform wardriving tasks (such as what WiGle WiFi does) >- Ability to *graph* WiFi signal strengths (the iOS solution is primitive) >- Ability to organize the desktop with icons on any grid whatsoever >- Ability to not clutter your desktop with rarely used icons >- Ability to have icons in multiple places for logical organization >- Ability to create empty named placeholder folders for organization >- Ability to automatically record calls in juristictions where it's legal >- Ability to switch between launchers at will >- Ability to use bitTorrent applications at will >- Ability to store installers to user-defined locations (for use elsewhere) >- Ability to have a fully-functional "App Drawer" for rarely used apps > >I'm sure there are plenty more, but those are only the things I do on my >Android device out of the box that can't be done on iOS out of the box. Who, other than you, gives a rat's ass? Better yet why don't you just go away you're a bore.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-15 01:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nm9fih$1alr$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #31687 |
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:59:19 -0500, BobbyK wrote: > Better yet why don't you just go away you're a bore. Wow. I changed my killfile and *you* showed up! Heh heh ... did you *ever* add a single bit of value to a discussion in your entire life? Is it even possible for you to accomplish that? Here are the things that nospam said were "bullshit". Which of those do you do on iOS? How? - Ability to load software outside the Apple ecosystem - Ability to change the launcher to entirely change the look & feel - Ability to change the keyboard (e.g., the ability to define keys) - Ability to control what data programs have access to from other programs - Ability to traverse & modify the entire file system (or almost all of it) - Ability for free second-line telephone numbers such as "Sideline" - Ability to use the "real" Tor Browser Bundle and "Obot" VPN - Ability to redirect files & types of files at will (File Redirector) - Ability to perform wardriving tasks (such as what WiGle WiFi does) - Ability to *graph* WiFi signal strengths (the iOS solution is primitive) - Ability to organize the desktop with icons on any grid whatsoever - Ability to not clutter your desktop with rarely used icons - Ability to have icons in multiple places for logical organization - Ability to create empty named placeholder folders for organization - Ability to automatically record calls in juristictions where it's legal - Ability to switch between launchers at will - Ability to use bitTorrent applications at will - Ability to store installers to user-defined locations (for use elsewhere) - Ability to have a fully-functional "App Drawer" for rarely used apps
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-14 21:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <jlhgobdt82qc9us6fci0atg4lgqeotrbac@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #31702 |
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 01:51:14 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote: >On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:59:19 -0500, BobbyK wrote: > >> Better yet why don't you just go away, you're a bore. > >Wow. I changed my killfile and *you* showed up! I'm about to change mine because You've hijacked this place. > >Heh heh ... did you *ever* add a single bit of value to a discussion in >your entire life? There seems to be no discussion with you, only your self-aggrandizing lists of what you own, and that you have all the answers. I'm thinking that you have no friends with whom to discuss anything, so you come here to blather. > >Is it even possible for you to accomplish that? Re-read the above. Goodbye now. >
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-15 14:19 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <150720161419007536%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #31687 |
In article <3k9gobhlt6dpcvaqlueeil44tlkpqv638o@4ax.com>, BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 23:23:43 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks > <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote: > <snip the usual load of anti-Apple, know-nothing trolling crap> > > Who, other than you, gives a rat's ass? > > Better yet why don't you just go away you're a bore. Just killfile the braindead moronic little troll.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-14 21:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <tligobhu5fa4m1co1t7l7sd8u0odr8gavt@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #31719 |
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:19:00 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: >In article <3k9gobhlt6dpcvaqlueeil44tlkpqv638o@4ax.com>, BobbyK ><bknight@Conramp.net> wrote: > >> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 23:23:43 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks >> <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote: >> ><snip the usual load of anti-Apple, know-nothing trolling crap> >> >> Who, other than you, gives a rat's ass? >Just killfile the braindead moronic little troll. Done. Hope that others do too.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-15 01:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nm9sce$r7m$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #31729 |
On 2016-07-15 02:31:52 +0000, BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> said: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:19:00 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> > wrote: > >> In article <3k9gobhlt6dpcvaqlueeil44tlkpqv638o@4ax.com>, BobbyK >> <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 23:23:43 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks >>> <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote: >>> >> <snip the usual load of anti-Apple, know-nothing trolling crap> >>> >>> Who, other than you, gives a rat's ass? > >> Just killfile the braindead moronic little troll. > > Done. Hope that others do too. I already did... that's why I had to reply to him through one of your quoted posts. -- Donald J. Trump: The asteroid destined to destroy a party of dinosaurs. -S Bee May I humbly suggest a campaign mascot? http://snotnews.reddragontv.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/1522023_690817180949038_1062062659_n.jpg
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-15 18:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nmbas4$2f7$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #31742 |
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 01:29:50 -0400, FPP wrote: > I already did... that's why I had to reply to him through one of your > quoted posts. The difference between you and me is that you're *emotionally* attached to your software & hardware decisions. So, like nospam and Michael Eyd, you might "lie" to protect that image. To me, Android is just an OS. To me, iOS is just an OS. I have both. I can do a *lot* more on Android than on iOS, so, I "prefer" Android over iOS (because I don't "just give up"), but to you, if you "just give up", you'll actually prefer iOS over Android. And that's fine. What I don't understand is why a huge number of the Apple people "lie" to cover up the faults of the software. The Android users don't lie like that. Android sucks for lots of things (updating the OS for one). We Android users can say that without lying about it. But Apple users, for the most part, feel they must resort to lying to "protect" their image. That's the PSYCHOLOGICAL thing I don't understand about Apple users. They'll lie and say itunes is not bloatware, even though just typing "bloatware" into a Google search comes up with a page of examples, all of which have iTunes as the canonical example. The examples abound. What I don't understand is why Apple Apologists resort to lies to "protect" their image. Android, Linux, and Windows users don't do that. Why just Apple users? What's "different" that they feel they have to lie?
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-15 16:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <dushp9Fdko1U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #31729 |
On 2016-07-15, BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:19:00 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> > wrote: > >>In article <3k9gobhlt6dpcvaqlueeil44tlkpqv638o@4ax.com>, BobbyK >><bknight@Conramp.net> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 23:23:43 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks >>> <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote: >>> >><snip the usual load of anti-Apple, know-nothing trolling crap> >>> >>> Who, other than you, gives a rat's ass? > >>Just killfile the braindead moronic little troll. > > Done. Hope that others do too. We surely have. But he will inevitably change his name to something else to dodge filters and troll again here. He's been doing it for ages. He probably has hundreds of nyms. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-15 18:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nmbas1$2f7$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #31801 |
On 15 Jul 2016 16:36:58 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > We surely have. But he will inevitably change his name to something else > to dodge filters and troll again here. He's been doing it for ages. He > probably has hundreds of nyms. I change nyms for privacy. I never hide who I am. I tell details nobody would tell if they were. I use the same style. And within any thread, I am only one nym. In addition, I never troll. YOU TROLL. You never add value. You just call everyone a troll. It's funny, but you call people "me" who aren't me. So, all you do is troll. But that's not the question here. It's clear that I tell the truth. It's clear that I back up what I say. It's clear that I'm open minded, about Android, Linux, Windows, and iOS. What's not clear is why people like nospam and Michael Eyd feel they have to "lie" to "protect" the iOS image. I don't lie to protect the Android or Linux or Windows or iOS image. I tell the truth. But only on the Apple newsgroups is there this preponderance of people who lie to protect the product. The question is why?
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-18 14:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nmiibp$go2$1@news.sap-ag.de> |
| In reply to | #31814 |
Am 15.07.2016 um 20:43 schrieb Aardvarks: > On 15 Jul 2016 16:36:58 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> We surely have. But he will inevitably change his name to something else >> to dodge filters and troll again here. He's been doing it for ages. He >> probably has hundreds of nyms. > > I change nyms for privacy. > I never hide who I am. You try to do it time after time. > I tell details nobody would tell if they were. Not that we were interested in the first place... > I use the same style. So much is true, indeed. > And within any thread, I am only one nym. Wrong, we already caught you on that. In other words: You're lying. > In addition, I never troll. You do it all the time. > YOU TROLL. > > You never add value. > You just call everyone a troll. > It's funny, but you call people "me" who aren't me. > > So, all you do is troll. > > But that's not the question here. > > It's clear that I tell the truth. No, it's not. > It's clear that I back up what I say. No, you don't. And if you do you usually come up with some 'facts' that are (usually rather easily) debunked as misinterpreted, irrelevant, outright false, ... But we are lying, sure. > It's clear that I'm open minded, You're everything but open minded, certainly not about iOS. But I assume that you can't really understand the difference between your point of view and that of a open minded person, taking your Asperger diagnosis into account. If that's not made up as well... > about Android, Linux, Windows, and iOS. > What's not clear is why people like nospam and Michael Eyd feel they have > to "lie" to "protect" the iOS image. See? If people dare to have a different point of view than you, and possibly even dare to argue for that point of view, not willing to accept your superior view (a clear sign of Asperger for me), then you can only resort to calling them liars. > I don't lie to protect the Android or Linux or Windows or iOS image. No, you don't. But you do everything, including ignoring facts given to you in spades, and sometimes even outright lying, all in order to keep *your* opinion up and for not having to confess that you were wrong. > I tell the truth. You tell *your* truth. Unfortunately (for you) that's by no means the truth for other people as well. > But only on the Apple newsgroups is there this preponderance of people who > lie to protect the product. > > The question is why? Why do you care? Even if it was true, you wouldn't be able to understand the answer. But luckily, it isn't true in the first place. :-) Michael
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-18 18:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nmj6jg$g97$5@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #32054 |
On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:33:59 +0200, Michael Eyd wrote: >> I never hide who I am. > > You try to do it time after time. Heh heh ... what I find funny is that people here accuse others of being me, and often they miss when I am me. Usually they only realize who I am when I give them complete details, such as when I tell them I never pay a penny for software or that I use Linux and that I know iTunes for what it is, etc. But at the same time they accuse everyone else of being me, which is funny. They even accused Marek of being me - just because he got frustrated with their idiocy. And I think crankypuss got accused of being me too, for the same reason that he had trouble understanding why they lie so much. It frustrates normal people why they lie so blatantly; and it used to frustrate me - but I'm content now that I realize they they're *protecting* their fragile image. a. They bought into a carefully crafted Apple Marketing strategy b. They bought into the carefully crafted walled garden of safety So anything *outside* the carefully crafted Apple Marketing strategy is a very real and direct threat to them. That's why they lie so much. It's merely their protection mechanism. >> I tell details nobody would tell if they were. > > Not that we were interested in the first place... Fair enough. >> I use the same style. > So much is true, indeed. Yup. The nym change is a privacy measure to avoid being snared in robo nets, which is why I also change servers and proxies and Usenet clients and headers purely at random. But I don't try to hide who I am from the regulars. In fact, you could probably, by now, triangulate me to within a mile of my house. Anyway, another way to tell is that I don't troll. I ask the question; I respond to the queries; and then I disappear. >> And within any thread, I am only one nym. > > Wrong, we already caught you on that. In other words: You're lying. Nope. Once in a while I make a mistake, but within any one thread, I'm only one nym. Sometimes I change machines, where the nyms are entirely separate (since they're all totally random), so I use those nyms. For example, if I feel the need to respond from Android, it has totally different nyms and servers and proxies than does the Windows machine or the Linux machines or even the iPads. They're all random. Even "I" don't know what they are since I set the group to be a specific nym by default (sometimes I forget to set the group preferences though). >> In addition, I never troll. > You do it all the time. You call being responsive, "trolling". You call a high post count, "trolling". If I wanted to troll, it would be so easy since I understand the nature of the users of this group. I don't wish to troll. I simply wish to find out information about the product. >> It's clear that I back up what I say. > > No, you don't. And if you do you usually come up with some 'facts' that > are (usually rather easily) debunked as misinterpreted, irrelevant, > outright false, ... But we are lying, sure. You know, I probably have posted nearly a thousand photos and screenshots to this newsgroup by way of proof of what I'm doing. I probably posted over a score to this one thread alone. Given I'm on Usenet a lot, I've probably posted more proof in a month than you have done in your entire life. How many screenshots of proof have you posted to this thread, for example? >> It's clear that I'm open minded, > > You're everything but open minded, certainly not about iOS. But I assume > that you can't really understand the difference between your point of > view and that of a open minded person, taking your Asperger diagnosis > into account. If that's not made up as well... Here's where you're wrong - but you're entitled to your opinion. Remember: a. I didn't buy iOS to be part of the "safe" herd orchestrated by Apple b. I didn't buy iOS to feel the cachet of the brand orchestrated by Apple Heck. I didn't even *buy* iOS. I got all mine for free. So the truth is not a threat to me as it is to the Apple Apologists. > See? If people dare to have a different point of view than you, and > possibly even dare to argue for that point of view, not willing to > accept your superior view (a clear sign of Asperger for me), then you > can only resort to calling them liars. I do admit I don't have the same social skills you have for dealing with duplicity. When nospam says "bullshit", it usually means he is trying to protect his "image", so he feels that if he keeps saying "bullshit", then the user will give up pressing the issue. In nospam's fear-filled mind, he "saves face" because the fact said by the first person was refuted by him (with the single word "bullshit" - no proof is ever supplied because he has no proof). But nospam has *many* ways to save face. For example, he said that Android users can't turn off privileges one by one for any app, which he was shown wrong (I've been doing it with App Ops Starter for years!), so when I showed him a picture of that as proof, he weaseled by saying that the ability that I have (in Android 4.3) is only introduced later (I think he said Android 5 or 6 but it doesn't matter). Another way nospam weasled on his lack of proof was when he said a "folder" on an iOS device named "App Drawer" is *more functional* than the app drawer apps that are on Android. What? How can he prove that one? You know how? He weaseled again, and said that the "default" app drawer that "he is familiar with" doesn't do that. Well, um, OK. But there are something like a score or more of app drawer apps, not only one for each launcher (the default for that launcher) but you can have a dozen app drawer apps installed if you want to (I have about 8 and I proved it). Once again, nospam weaseled claiming there is only 1 app drawer app on Android, and then claiming that a mere "folder" on iOS is *more functional* than that one (imaginary?) king of all app drawer apps. Why can't nospam just agree that iOS lacks the app drawer capabilities? a. Because he bought into an image formed by Apple Marketing b. And to tell the truth makes him feel less "safe" about his choices So, he says "bullshit" to everything that threatens: a. His self esteem on why he bought the product (orchestrated by Apple) b. His safety in numbers by being of the herd (inside the walled garden) > You tell *your* truth. Unfortunately (for you) that's by no means the > truth for other people as well. I'm only here to ask technical questions. I am one of the most well balanced technical people here. That's because I don't have to protect an *image* crafted by Apple Marketing and because I'm not so scared of being outside the herd that Apple Marketing wants me to be so scared of. > Why do you care? Even if it was true, you wouldn't be able to understand > the answer. But luckily, it isn't true in the first place. :-) Michael, The reason I cared, and that Marek cared and that crankypuss cared, and that Poutnik cared, etc., is that it's befuddling why people like nospam and Jolly Roger lie so blatantly so often. Something like half their posts on technical questions are lies. The other half, at least for nospam, are actually technically acute. Even Jolly Roger sometimes knows something technical. The rest don't matter. Michelle, while being a nice lady, doesn't know all that much, and neither does Patty. Both Jamie's aren't worth the text they type, and Lewis' posts are so useless to only be funny, for the most part. Rod Speed often has a good point of view - and he takes probably the most open-minded view of things - but he gets into this having-the-last-word contest with nospam that just wastes space. David Empson is almost always accurate, where he provides proof and explains things nobody else can. And Sobriquet is also well balanced, but he doesn't know as much as David Empson. Me? I'm well balanced. I am *outside* the herd. I prove what I say. I don't know much about iOS so I make mistakes - but if you show me something that iOS does that I need to do, I try it and let you know how it worked out. Most of the time when you show something, it works out to some degree (e.g., the manual crippleware call recorder). In that case, I *removed* automatic call recording from the list - but I could have argued the point but that wasn't my goal. Likewise with sideline (It was a mistake on my part, mostly because I didn't test it on an iPhone but on an iPad). Still, we're left with not 20, but 16 things that answer the question someone baited when they said the only thing Android can do that iOS can't is hammer nails. Interestingly, when the opposite question was asked, nospam said "security" is one thing iOS can do that Android cant (and, while I explained that is not totally true - again - I gave him a pass and didn't belabor the lack of Orbot/Orfox anonymous VPN). The fact that nospam extremely highly values security fits in with *why* he bought iOS devices: a. He bought on cachet (orchestrated by Apple Marketing) b. He bought on being one with the herd (orchestrated by Apple Marketing) So, basically, anything technical that goes against Apple Marketing orchestration, nospam calls "bullshit".
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-18 18:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nmj6m3$ge4$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #32054 |
On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:33:59 +0200, Michael Eyd wrote: >> I never hide who I am. > > You try to do it time after time. Heh heh ... what I find funny is that people here accuse others of being me, and often they miss when I am me. Usually they only realize who I am when I give them complete details, such as when I tell them I never pay a penny for software or that I use Linux and that I know iTunes for what it is, etc. But at the same time they accuse everyone else of being me, which is funny. They even accused Marek of being me - just because he got frustrated with their idiocy. And I think crankypuss got accused of being me too, for the same reason that he had trouble understanding why they lie so much. It frustrates normal people why they lie so blatantly; and it used to frustrate me - but I'm content now that I realize they they're *protecting* their fragile image. a. They bought into a carefully crafted Apple Marketing strategy b. They bought into the carefully crafted walled garden of safety So anything *outside* the carefully crafted Apple Marketing strategy is a very real and direct threat to them. That's why they lie so much. It's merely their protection mechanism. >> I tell details nobody would tell if they were. > > Not that we were interested in the first place... Fair enough. >> I use the same style. > So much is true, indeed. Yup. The nym change is a privacy measure to avoid being snared in robo nets, which is why I also change servers and proxies and Usenet clients and headers purely at random. But I don't try to hide who I am from the regulars. In fact, you could probably, by now, triangulate me to within a mile of my house. Anyway, another way to tell is that I don't troll. I ask the question; I respond to the queries; and then I disappear. >> And within any thread, I am only one nym. > > Wrong, we already caught you on that. In other words: You're lying. Nope. Once in a while I make a mistake, but within any one thread, I'm only one nym. Sometimes I change machines, where the nyms are entirely separate (since they're all totally random), so I use those nyms. For example, if I feel the need to respond from Android, it has totally different nyms and servers and proxies than does the Windows machine or the Linux machines or even the iPads. They're all random. Even "I" don't know what they are since I set the group to be a specific nym by default (sometimes I forget to set the group preferences though). >> In addition, I never troll. > You do it all the time. You call being responsive, "trolling". You call a high post count, "trolling". If I wanted to troll, it would be so easy since I understand the nature of the users of this group. I don't wish to troll. I simply wish to find out information about the product. >> It's clear that I back up what I say. > > No, you don't. And if you do you usually come up with some 'facts' that > are (usually rather easily) debunked as misinterpreted, irrelevant, > outright false, ... But we are lying, sure. You know, I probably have posted nearly a thousand photos and screenshots to this newsgroup by way of proof of what I'm doing. I probably posted over a score to this one thread alone. Given I'm on Usenet a lot, I've probably posted more proof in a month than you have done in your entire life. How many screenshots of proof have you posted to this thread, for example? >> It's clear that I'm open minded, > > You're everything but open minded, certainly not about iOS. But I assume > that you can't really understand the difference between your point of > view and that of a open minded person, taking your Asperger diagnosis > into account. If that's not made up as well... Here's where you're wrong - but you're entitled to your opinion. Remember: a. I didn't buy iOS to be part of the "safe" herd orchestrated by Apple b. I didn't buy iOS to feel the cachet of the brand orchestrated by Apple Heck. I didn't even *buy* iOS. I got all mine for free. So the truth is not a threat to me as it is to the Apple Apologists. > See? If people dare to have a different point of view than you, and > possibly even dare to argue for that point of view, not willing to > accept your superior view (a clear sign of Asperger for me), then you > can only resort to calling them liars. I do admit I don't have the same social skills you have for dealing with duplicity. When nospam says "bullshit", it usually means he is trying to protect his "image", so he feels that if he keeps saying "bullshit", then the user will give up pressing the issue. In nospam's fear-filled mind, he "saves face" because the fact said by the first person was refuted by him (with the single word "bullshit" - no proof is ever supplied because he has no proof). But nospam has *many* ways to save face. For example, he said that Android users can't turn off privileges one by one for any app, which he was shown wrong (I've been doing it with App Ops Starter for years!), so when I showed him a picture of that as proof, he weaseled by saying that the ability that I have (in Android 4.3) is only introduced later (I think he said Android 5 or 6 but it doesn't matter). Another way nospam weasled on his lack of proof was when he said a "folder" on an iOS device named "App Drawer" is *more functional* than the app drawer apps that are on Android. What? How can he prove that one? You know how? He weaseled again, and said that the "default" app drawer that "he is familiar with" doesn't do that. Well, um, OK. But there are something like a score or more of app drawer apps, not only one for each launcher (the default for that launcher) but you can have a dozen app drawer apps installed if you want to (I have about 8 and I proved it). Once again, nospam weaseled claiming there is only 1 app drawer app on Android, and then claiming that a mere "folder" on iOS is *more functional* than that one (imaginary?) king of all app drawer apps. Why can't nospam just agree that iOS lacks the app drawer capabilities? a. Because he bought into an image formed by Apple Marketing b. And to tell the truth makes him feel less "safe" about his choices So, he says "bullshit" to everything that threatens: a. His self esteem on why he bought the product (orchestrated by Apple) b. His safety in numbers by being of the herd (inside the walled garden) > You tell *your* truth. Unfortunately (for you) that's by no means the > truth for other people as well. I'm only here to ask technical questions. I am one of the most well balanced technical people here. That's because I don't have to protect an *image* crafted by Apple Marketing and because I'm not so scared of being outside the herd that Apple Marketing wants me to be so scared of. > Why do you care? Even if it was true, you wouldn't be able to understand > the answer. But luckily, it isn't true in the first place. :-) Michael, The reason I cared, and that Marek cared and that crankypuss cared, and that Poutnik cared, etc., is that it's befuddling why people like nospam and Jolly Roger lie so blatantly so often. Something like half their posts on technical questions are lies. The other half, at least for nospam, are actually technically acute. Even Jolly Roger sometimes knows something technical. The rest don't matter. Michelle, while being a nice lady, doesn't know all that much, and neither does Patty. Both Jamie's aren't worth the text they type, and Lewis' posts are so useless to only be funny, for the most part. Rod Speed often has a good point of view - and he takes probably the most open-minded view of things - but he gets into this having-the-last-word contest with nospam that just wastes space. David Empson is almost always accurate, where he provides proof and explains things nobody else can. And Sobriquet is also well balanced, but he doesn't know as much as David Empson. Me? I'm well balanced. I am *outside* the herd. I prove what I say. I don't know much about iOS so I make mistakes - but if you show me something that iOS does that I need to do, I try it and let you know how it worked out. Most of the time when you show something, it works out to some degree (e.g., the manual crippleware call recorder). In that case, I *removed* automatic call recording from the list - but I could have argued the point but that wasn't my goal. Likewise with sideline (It was a mistake on my part, mostly because I didn't test it on an iPhone but on an iPad). Still, we're left with not 20, but 16 things that answer the question someone baited when they said the only thing Android can do that iOS can't is hammer nails. Interestingly, when the opposite question was asked, nospam said "security" is one thing iOS can do that Android cant (and, while I explained that is not totally true - again - I gave him a pass and didn't belabor the lack of Orbot/Orfox anonymous VPN). The fact that nospam extremely highly values security fits in with *why* he bought iOS devices: a. He bought on cachet (orchestrated by Apple Marketing) b. He bought on being one with the herd (orchestrated by Apple Marketing) So, basically, anything technical that goes against Apple Marketing orchestration, nospam calls "bullshit".
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
Page 1 of 10 [1] 2 3 … 10 Next page →
Back to top | Article view | comp.mobile.android
csiph-web