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| Started by | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| First post | 2026-08-06 21:29 -0400 |
| Last post | 2026-08-11 21:02 +0100 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 213 — 23 participants |
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SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-06 21:29 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-07 09:15 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-07 16:42 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-07 15:50 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:30 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:30 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:27 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-07 22:09 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:28 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-10 17:41 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:24 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:38 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 02:01 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-11 12:32 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:19 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:20 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:24 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-15 12:08 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:51 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 13:40 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 13:28 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 13:27 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-11 12:39 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 10:38 -0700
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-11 13:58 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-11 14:12 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-12 20:36 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-12 20:40 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:19 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:52 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-12 20:44 +0200
Storage media availability over time (was: Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 09:20 +0100
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-16 10:01 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-18 14:00 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-18 15:22 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-18 15:44 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-18 19:22 +0100
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-18 18:15 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-19 07:58 +0100
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-18 23:15 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-19 15:36 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 08:23 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-19 16:59 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 10:04 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 20:15 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 10:19 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 20:29 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 11:57 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:13 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 12:50 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 00:21 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-20 23:08 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 19:11 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 09:44 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 19:56 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 10:11 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 20:17 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 10:24 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 20:35 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 12:04 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:15 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 13:02 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-08-20 17:26 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-20 23:11 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-19 17:33 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 09:51 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-19 18:48 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 12:13 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-19 20:25 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 12:55 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:16 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 20:32 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 00:08 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 20:36 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 06:03 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 22:19 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 12:45 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-20 06:22 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 15:22 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-20 08:48 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 18:18 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-08-20 19:48 +0100
Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 21:07 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 22:25 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-21 18:55 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-21 19:39 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-22 18:54 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-22 20:59 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-08-22 06:44 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-22 14:08 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-22 20:45 -0700
Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 09:41 +0100
Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-22 14:42 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-20 23:14 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 09:37 +0100
Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-22 14:28 +0000
Usenet reader (was: Re: Storage media availability over time "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-24 17:27 +0100
Re: Usenet reader AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-24 10:52 -0700
Re: Usenet reader "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-25 09:30 +0100
Re: Usenet reader (was: Re: Storage media availability over time "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-25 09:28 +0100
Re: Storage media availability over time Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 14:35 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 15:36 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-20 08:53 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time Old Macdonald <eieio@patch.corn> - 2026-08-19 17:37 -0700
Re: Storage media availability over time Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 14:39 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-19 18:17 -0400
Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-19 23:45 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-20 23:06 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-21 08:24 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-21 15:34 -0700
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-22 09:58 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-22 22:47 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-24 17:16 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-25 10:18 -0700
Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-20 23:04 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Ch1ffr3punk <ch1ffr3punk@gmail.com> - 2026-08-20 21:09 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-21 08:19 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-20 23:01 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 23:26 +0100
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-20 23:23 -0800
Re: Storage media availability over time Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-30 18:36 +0100
Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-31 08:29 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-31 18:02 +0100
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 21:57 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-02 09:16 +0100
Re: Storage media availability over time Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2026-09-03 05:24 +0000
Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-18 13:29 +0200
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-18 08:47 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:28 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:22 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-15 08:50 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:27 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:34 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 13:02 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-11 06:20 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-11 14:37 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-11 10:21 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:18 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-12 06:00 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 20:47 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-12 17:03 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-12 20:41 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-13 18:59 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 07:56 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:00 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-15 08:34 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-15 12:10 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-15 19:33 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 06:23 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-17 18:18 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-17 17:41 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-18 05:24 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:19 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-14 00:21 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-14 20:23 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-14 00:20 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:37 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-15 19:34 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 20:09 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-10 17:38 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 11:49 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-10 18:04 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-11 06:33 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-11 05:54 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-11 10:10 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 10:18 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:30 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-15 15:19 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-11 10:01 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 10:11 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:34 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Siard <saylor259@mailbox.org> - 2026-08-07 16:57 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:32 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Siard <saylor259@mailbox.org> - 2026-08-10 09:25 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 08:47 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:40 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-07 19:15 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 22:34 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:28 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:42 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 17:40 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:28 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-08 11:43 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-08 20:57 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-09 14:33 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 14:28 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:32 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 18:34 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 02:20 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 07:31 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-08-10 08:59 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> - 2026-08-10 11:06 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 10:33 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-08-10 10:51 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 10:25 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 09:43 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 10:34 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:24 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 09:42 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-09 09:49 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-09 15:21 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 14:21 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-09 22:31 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 19:33 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-10 02:48 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 02:25 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-09 14:43 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 13:21 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-10 18:01 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 14:55 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-10 19:19 +0000
[OT] non-Unix fingers (was: Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-11 01:00 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 21:02 +0100
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 18:36 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Storage media availability over time |
| Message-ID | <nfj7ubFgkl1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #155147 |
Arno Welzel wrote: > A thing becomes "obsolete" if only a minority of people actually using > it. That's obsolescent rather than obsolete.
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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 08:29 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Storage media availability over time |
| Message-ID | <1173701$m8vk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #155398 |
Andy Burns, 2026-08-30 19:36: > Arno Welzel wrote: > >> A thing becomes "obsolete" if only a minority of people actually using >> it. > That's obsolescent rather than obsolete. Ok, Android 2 is "obsolescent" and not "obsolete"? -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 18:02 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Storage media availability over time |
| Message-ID | <nflqakFt8cnU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #155411 |
Arno Welzel wrote: > Andy Burns wrote: > >> Arno Welzel wrote: >> >>> A thing becomes "obsolete" if only a minority of people actually using >>> it. >> That's obsolescent rather than obsolete. > > Ok, Android 2 is "obsolescent" and not "obsolete"? My Nexus1 I think I flashed it with an unofficial Android 4.x, what makes it quite a brick is lack of 3G signals and modern SSL/TLS requirements.
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-01 21:57 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Storage media availability over time |
| Message-ID | <1177amq$2vaa$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #155431 |
Andy Burns wrote: >> Ok, Android 2 is "obsolescent" and not "obsolete"? > My Nexus1 I think I flashed it with an unofficial Android 4.x, what > makes it quite a brick is lack of 3G signals and modern SSL/TLS > requirements. If it runs NewPipe, you can use it for an advertisement free YouTube player. That's what I do with my old Android tablets. It works great.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-09-02 09:16 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Storage media availability over time |
| Message-ID | <nfq48iFjmqcU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #155489 |
Maria Sophia wrote: > Andy Burns wrote: > >> My Nexus1 I think I flashed it with an unofficial Android 4.x, what >> makes it quite a brick is lack of 3G signals and modern SSL/TLS >> requirements. > > If it runs NewPipe, you can use it for an advertisement free YouTube > player. That's what I do with my old Android tablets. It works great. I don't pay for Sky/Netflix/AppleTV/Disney+ etc, but I do pay Youtube for no adverts and music streaming ...
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| From | Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-03 05:24 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Storage media availability over time |
| Message-ID | <nfsejhFkbdU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #155495 |
On 2 Sep 2026 at 08:16:23, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: > Maria Sophia wrote: > >> Andy Burns wrote: >> >>> My Nexus1 I think I flashed it with an unofficial Android 4.x, what >>> makes it quite a brick is lack of 3G signals and modern SSL/TLS >>> requirements. >> >> If it runs NewPipe, you can use it for an advertisement free YouTube >> player. That's what I do with my old Android tablets. It works great. > > I don't pay for Sky/Netflix/AppleTV/Disney+ etc, but I do pay Youtube > for no adverts and music streaming ... Me too. Worth every penny.
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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 13:29 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Storage media availability over time |
| Message-ID | <1161fnd$1p9pn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #155036 |
Nuno Silva, 2026-08-16 10:20: > On 2026-08-12, Arno Welzel wrote: > >> Maria Sophia, 2026-08-11 18:19: > [...] >>> This is dead wrong for two reasons, one of which is 60% of all >>> recent/current Androids have the sd card slot for good reasons. >> >> No, it is not "dead wrong". You remember the late 1990ies? >> >> And some things will just die very slowly, but they will one day, like >> optical disc drives (CD/DVD/BD). > > Is there any similar replacement for data storage and backup? IIRC the > best of them all is tape, but tends to be expensive; optical media being Yes, tape media itself is cheap, but the drives are very expensive as they are professional gear targeted to companies who use these drives 24/7 for many years - and then it is not that important, if the drive is 5000 USD or more. Realiability and availability in case of a failure is more important. > more prevalent and readily available, although for capacity and > price/capacity the most feasible one, at least before the introduction > of friggin' SMR (granted, backup might be one place where it actually is > acceptable) and recent price increases, was to just use a hard disk > drive? Yes, HDD is the medium of choice nowadays. Personally I use a drive bay in my tower computer and hot swappable SATA drives in trays. Each drive has a nominoal capacity and I always have at least 3 copies of everything with daily rotation and a deduplication archive on each disk which keeps all changes from the last 6 months. In addition there is an encrypted file server at a hoster and a NAS as temporary storage for the backup repositories. So in total I have 5 copies of everything at two different locations. -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 08:47 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Storage media availability over time |
| Message-ID | <11622bq$2kjr$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #155057 |
Arno Welzel wrote: >> If Apple says sd cards are outdated, then they believe it. >> Just as if ISIS says kill people of other religions, they do it. > > This comparison is stupid and tasteless! Hi Arno, I didn't want to have this conversation because it's classic Apple crap. Anyone who says sd cards are "obsolete" simply doesn't understand them. There's a reason more than half of Android phones of today have the slot. But, you're correct that my example of religious belief systems was wrong. I never disagree with a logically sensible viewpoint, so I agree with you on my analogy, where my point was that your comparison was inappropriate. The fact is the Apple religious zealots have been parroting Apple for years whenever Apple removes important functionality so they have to buy it back. Apple tells people they removed functionality because it's "outdated". And people, being idiots, not only believe Apple, but parrot Apple back. It's a religious belief system that the Apple religious zealots parrot. So I was in the mindset of religious analogies. My bad. I apologize. > Personally I don't use SD cards in phones any longer for more than 5 > years and did never miss that. For me they are outdated and many other > people also don't *need* SD cards any longer. There's nothing wrong with saying that in your desperation to replace the lost functionality, you buy your way out of the lack of sd functionality. Because, if you seriously analyze what you've done, that's what you did. There's nothing wrong with you admitting that to yourself. You do NOT have to admit that's what you did, to me. I already know what you did. >> People love to believe a "story" concocted by other people manipulating >> them, where it's a fact that anyone believing SD is outdated is wrong. >> >> There's a reason more than half of all Android sold tody have sd slots. > > On of the reason is also, that the manufacturers then don't have to > offer multiple models with 128, 256, 512 GB etc. but just *one* model > with an SD card slot. The Apple religious zealots parrot all sorts of crap like that also. The fact is the OEMs remove functionality because they make money by you being so desperate to buy that functionality back that you pay for it. >> What sd does, no other replacement can even come close to doing. > > Only when you need replacable memory inside the phone. And this is only > one of many ways to store data. That's just not true. You saying that shows you don't understand sdcards. It doesn't need to be replaceable, for example. It just needs to be there. So that you can use it. What if you wanted storage that grows with your needs over time? I know how *you* would solve that problem, so you don't need to answer. In your sheer desperation, you'd pay more for "the cloud" to get it back. And that's OK. Just be honest with yourself. That's all I ask of you. > Also if you use SD cards to extend the internal memory to install apps > on it, you can't just replace them when needed without moving everything > to the internal memory of the phone first. I've said a thousand times that nobody sensible uses adoptable storage. Not today. We all played with it in the past. It's an abomination. You can't argue away the value of sd cards by complaining about one thing. You'd be better off complaining that sd storage is less reliable anyway. >> Anyone saying otherwise, simply doesn't understand what sd can do. >> It's impossible to replace what sd cards do with privacy & for free. > > It is. External USB based storage solutions exist and you can also use > your *own* server to store data which you don't need on the phone all > the time. This statement above proves you do not understand even the simplest of the most basic of the most obvious features of sd card storage, in my opinion. Let's stop this because it's obvious you don't understand sd card technology, and I'm tired of pointing it out so let's just drop it. OK?
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-14 19:28 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <ne91irFp2hsU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #154916 |
On 2026-08-11 13:27, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Maria Sophia, 2026-08-10 19:24:
>
>> Steve Hayes wrote:
...
>> They make money because the consumer must desperately replace the lost
>> functionality, usually hugely larger initial storage costs overall.
>
> I never had to "desperately" replace anything. It works fine for me as
> it is. I've been running my own Nextcloud server for nearly 10 years now
> - all backups of my phone go to hat server and all pictures I have taken
> with the phone, right away after I have taken them. Also only the last 6
> months of pictures will stay on the phone. If I want to review older
> pictures I can use the "Memories" app which is available for Nextcloud
> as well as for Android. Since I have an unlimited data plan and 5G
> speeds most of the time I also don't care if "Memories" needs to
> download images when browsing galleries.
>
Is there a Howto for dummies, about Nextcloud? :-)
Quickie: do you need to have a fixed IP for this? Or are the transfer
done only inside the LAN?
> The Nextcloud server is also fully backed up daily with a history of 6
> months - so I can access every single day as a folder to see older
> versions of a file as well.
>
> And even if you would only use Google Drive - they charge around 2 USD
> per month for 1 TB. So one year is around 24 USD. Even in 10 years you
> only pay 240 USD. That is cheaper than some of the 1 TB SD cards
> available and even before the AI crisis, the prices for SD cards were
> not much cheaper.
>> But also by incessant subscriptions to replace the lost functionality.
>
> Well - backup storage is never for free. Even if you only do local
> backups at home you still need some kind of storage - ideally not only
> one single harddisc, but multiple copies in case one fails.
>> In summary, anyone saying sd cards are obsolete, knows nothing about them.
>
> In my opinion *some* people may still want to use them. But for many
> people it is indeed obsolete - otherwise devices without SD card slot
> wouldn't sell and most people would only choose devices which still have
> an SD card slot. But it seems, other aspects are more important for many
> users.
>
> My wife has a Xiaomi phone with 128 GB built in and an SD card slot -
> she did never put an SD card into it.
I had no need for an SD cards in my phone for a long time (over a
decade). However, in my new tablet I did install one, because I wanted
to store many movies. I do not store movies in a phone, the display is
too small.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-15 10:22 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <115pb4k$37eta$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #154878 |
On 2026-08-10, Steve Hayes wrote: > On Fri, 7 Aug 2026 17:27:22 +0200, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> > wrote: [...] >>E-SIMs are standard for years. A second physical SIM slot is as obsolete >>as a SD-card-slot. > > Why are they "obsolete"? > > Is there a good reason that benefits users, or is it just that the > manufacurers can sell you less functionality for more money? This really doesn't compute, either physical SIMs are obsolete or they aren't. If a first slot is not obsolete, then the second one isn't. -- Nuno Silva
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-15 08:50 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <115q5ch$18lu$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #154996 |
Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2026-08-10, Steve Hayes wrote: > >> On Fri, 7 Aug 2026 17:27:22 +0200, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> >> wrote: > [...] >>>E-SIMs are standard for years. A second physical SIM slot is as obsolete >>>as a SD-card-slot. >> >> Why are they "obsolete"? >> >> Is there a good reason that benefits users, or is it just that the >> manufacurers can sell you less functionality for more money? > > This really doesn't compute, either physical SIMs are obsolete or they > aren't. If a first slot is not obsolete, then the second one isn't. You are correct. They are wrong. Dead wrong. You're bringing up absurdities in this thread which abound everywhere. These utter absurdities are coming from Joerg, s|b, Steve Hayes, et al. One of the major problems in this thread causing most of the absurdities is the people "saying" that the hardware is "obsolete" have no idea it's not. Here's a list of 2923 current/recent Android phones with "dual SIM" h/w. <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&chkDualSIM=selected&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2> And here's a list of 363 current/recent Android phones with "ESIM" h/w. <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&chkESIM=selected&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2> FWIW, here's a list of only 340 current/recent phones with both: <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&chkDualSIM=selected&chkESIM=selected&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2> In summary, the people claiming sd hardware is "obsolete" are factually wrong, and, it turns out, only the known trolls are claiming that anyway. These are some of the thousands of current/recent Androids with sd slots. 1. Samsung Galaxy A17 2. Samsung Galaxy F70 Pro 3. Xiaomi Redmi Note 15 4. Xiaomi Redmi Note 17 (India/China) 5. Xiaomi Poco M8 Power 6. Samsung Galaxy A07 4G 7. Samsung Galaxy A27 8. Infinix Hot 70 Pro 9. Xiaomi Redmi 15 10. OnePlus N6x 11. Infinix Hot 60 Pro 12. Motorola Edge 60 Fusion 13. Samsung Galaxy A16 14. Infinix Hot 70 15. Sony Xperia 1 VIII 16. Samsung Galaxy A26 17. Infinix Smart 20 18. Samsung Galaxy A55 19. Xiaomi Redmi Note 14 4G 20. Samsung Galaxy M47 21. Xiaomi Redmi 15C 4G 22. Samsung Galaxy A07 23. Samsung Galaxy A06 24. Xiaomi Redmi Note 13 25. Samsung Galaxy A54 26. Xiaomi Redmi 17 4G 27. Samsung Galaxy A15 28. Samsung Galaxy A35 29. Samsung Galaxy A16 5G 30. Tecno Spark 50 31. Xiaomi Redmi A7 Pro 4G 32. Xiaomi Redmi 15C 33. Xiaomi Redmi A5 34. Xiaomi Redmi Note 14 5G 35. Motorola Moto G77 36. Oppo A6 Pro 37. OnePlus N6 38. Samsung Galaxy A14 39. Xiaomi Redmi 14C 40. Realme 16 41. Realme C85 42. Xiaomi Redmi Note 12 43. Xiaomi Poco M8 44. Xiaomi Redmi 13C 45. Samsung Galaxy A34 46. Honor X6c 47. Infinix Hot 60i 4G 48. Oppo A6 49. Tecno Pova 8 50. Xiaomi Redmi Note 15 4G 51. Samsung Galaxy A53 5G 52. Nothing CMF Phone 2 Pro 53. Oppo A6x 4G 54. Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 55. Samsung Galaxy M17 56. Samsung Galaxy A17 4G 57. Samsung Galaxy A05 58. Samsung Galaxy A32 59. Xiaomi Redmi 12 60. Infinix Smart 10 61. Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 62. Samsung Galaxy A25 63. OnePlus Nord CE5 64. Tecno Pova 7 65. Infinix Hot 50 Pro 4G 66. Realme C71 67. vivo Y31 68. Sony Xperia 1 VII 69. Samsung Galaxy A13 70. vivo Y11 <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=1>
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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
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| Date | 2026-08-10 02:27 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <115b5sp$2o9np$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #154747 |
micky, 2026-08-07 15:15: > In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 06 Aug 2026 21:29:34 -0400, micky > <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote: > >> So, I need a new phone and 1) some that I'm looking at have some model >> that take A) a sim and either a second sim or an SD card. or >> B) a sim and either a second sim or an Esim. >> >> If you had to choose, which is more valuable, an SD slot or an esim >> slot? >> >> Are there those that have all 3? > > Google ASI says that "flagship phones (like Samsung Galaxy S or Google > Pixel series) have largely dropped microSD card slots...." Really? Yes, really. > When I saw my battery failing, I had time to back up most of what was in > my phone, but if I had stored everything possible on an SD card, I > wouldn't have needed warning or last-minute actions. A backup should be done on a regular basis and not only if the battery is about to fail. Treat your smartphone like your laptop or PC: you also shouldn't keep important data only on your laptop or PC without any backup since internal storage can always fail at any time and you can delete or modify data by accident as well. > I'm surprised I didn't see suggestions to keep things in external > storage for this reason, but certainly some people already know, so why > would expensive phones be dropping SD cards? Because internal UFS-based memory is faster and manufacturers can save a bit money. >> 2) Some times when I look for help, webpage instuctions don't match my >> late lamented Xiaomi phone. The standard seems to be Samsung, is that >> right? Are there other less expensive brands that are more like >> Samsung than my Xiaomi has been? Samsung is not "the standard" in any way. It is just one of the manufacturers with the largest market share. But Xiaomi is also very popular nowadays and there is also Google itself with their "Pixel" series. -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-10 08:34 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <115cui2$12l3$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #154856 |
Arno Welzel wrote: >>> 2) Some times when I look for help, webpage instuctions don't match my >>> late lamented Xiaomi phone. The standard seems to be Samsung, is that >>> right? Are there other less expensive brands that are more like >>> Samsung than my Xiaomi has been? > > Samsung is not "the standard" in any way. It is just one of the > manufacturers with the largest market share. But Xiaomi is also very > popular nowadays and there is also Google itself with their "Pixel" series. Most of what people are claiming in this thread is not supported by facts. Samsung's world wide market share is substantial enough bit let's look at the facts before making any conclusions about Samsung or Xiaomi sd slots. These are current/recent Android phones that have the sd slot hardware. (Des anyone notice the many Samsung or Xiaomi models in that list?) 1. Samsung Galaxy A17 2. Samsung Galaxy F70 Pro 3. Xiaomi Redmi Note 15 4. Xiaomi Redmi Note 17 (India/China) 5. Xiaomi Poco M8 Power 6. Samsung Galaxy A07 4G 7. Samsung Galaxy A27 8. Infinix Hot 70 Pro 9. Xiaomi Redmi 15 10. OnePlus N6x 11. Infinix Hot 60 Pro 12. Motorola Edge 60 Fusion 13. Samsung Galaxy A16 14. Infinix Hot 70 15. Sony Xperia 1 VIII 16. Samsung Galaxy A26 17. Infinix Smart 20 18. Samsung Galaxy A55 19. Xiaomi Redmi Note 14 4G 20. Samsung Galaxy M47 21. Xiaomi Redmi 15C 4G 22. Samsung Galaxy A07 23. Samsung Galaxy A06 24. Xiaomi Redmi Note 13 25. Samsung Galaxy A54 26. Xiaomi Redmi 17 4G 27. Samsung Galaxy A15 28. Samsung Galaxy A35 29. Samsung Galaxy A16 5G 30. Tecno Spark 50 31. Xiaomi Redmi A7 Pro 4G 32. Xiaomi Redmi 15C 33. Xiaomi Redmi A5 34. Xiaomi Redmi Note 14 5G 35. Motorola Moto G77 36. Oppo A6 Pro 37. OnePlus N6 38. Samsung Galaxy A14 39. Xiaomi Redmi 14C 40. Realme 16 41. Realme C85 42. Xiaomi Redmi Note 12 43. Xiaomi Poco M8 44. Xiaomi Redmi 13C 45. Samsung Galaxy A34 46. Honor X6c 47. Infinix Hot 60i 4G 48. Oppo A6 49. Tecno Pova 8 50. Xiaomi Redmi Note 15 4G 51. Samsung Galaxy A53 5G 52. Nothing CMF Phone 2 Pro 53. Oppo A6x 4G 54. Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 55. Samsung Galaxy M17 56. Samsung Galaxy A17 4G 57. Samsung Galaxy A05 58. Samsung Galaxy A32 59. Xiaomi Redmi 12 60. Infinix Smart 10 61. Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 62. Samsung Galaxy A25 63. OnePlus Nord CE5 64. Tecno Pova 7 65. Infinix Hot 50 Pro 4G 66. Realme C71 67. vivo Y31 68. Sony Xperia 1 VII 69. Samsung Galaxy A13 70. vivo Y11 <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2021&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=1>
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-10 13:02 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <f70k7lhkvjmjco78tsd2tf04unvlroru61@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #154856 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 10 Aug 2026 02:27:05 +0200, Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote: >micky, 2026-08-07 15:15: > >> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 06 Aug 2026 21:29:34 -0400, micky >> <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote: >> >>> So, I need a new phone and 1) some that I'm looking at have some model >>> that take A) a sim and either a second sim or an SD card. or >>> B) a sim and either a second sim or an Esim. >>> >>> If you had to choose, which is more valuable, an SD slot or an esim >>> slot? >>> >>> Are there those that have all 3? >> >> Google ASI says that "flagship phones (like Samsung Galaxy S or Google >> Pixel series) have largely dropped microSD card slots...." Really? > >Yes, really. > >> When I saw my battery failing, I had time to back up most of what was in >> my phone, but if I had stored everything possible on an SD card, I >> wouldn't have needed warning or last-minute actions. > >A backup should be done on a regular basis and not only if the battery >is about to fail. Yes, I know. I should also wash the dishes more promptly, revise my will, set up a medical power of attorney, leave final instructions, sharpen my lawnmowe blade. > Treat your smartphone like your laptop or PC: you also I could do better on that too, but I do backup. >shouldn't keep important data only on your laptop or PC without any I definitely don't do that. What is probably lost are texts and text chats that I probably would never have looked at, and about 40 mostly short notes made on a note-pad type program, which I had intended to review but nothing pressing. I haven't checked the google backup yet, but I have doubts that they cover this. The program is a little freebie that came with MyPhoneExplorer. >backup since internal storage can always fail at any time and you can >delete or modify data by accident as well. > >> I'm surprised I didn't see suggestions to keep things in external >> storage for this reason, but certainly some people already know, so why >> would expensive phones be dropping SD cards? > >Because internal UFS-based memory is faster and manufacturers can save a >bit money. Okay. >>> 2) Some times when I look for help, webpage instuctions don't match my >>> late lamented Xiaomi phone. The standard seems to be Samsung, is that >>> right? Are there other less expensive brands that are more like >>> Samsung than my Xiaomi has been? > >Samsung is not "the standard" in any way. It is just one of the >manufacturers with the largest market share. But Xiaomi is also very >popular nowadays and there is also Google itself with their "Pixel" series. Well, no more Xiaomi for a while. I got Motorola. More details after it ocomes and I try it, but some reviews said it had very few deviations from vanilla Android. So I should be able to find the settings etc. that you guys or online articles tell me to use. For the record, I was lossing interest in the SD card, but I had a Redmi note 8 pro, and they now have Redmi Note 17 Pro. I tried 17, 15, 14, 13, and maybe back to 12 before I found one that woud use an SD card.
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| From | Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-08-11 06:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <798l7l5hb3job664934qmi7ofu8e237gat@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #154886 |
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 13:02:00 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote: >Well, no more Xiaomi for a while. I got Motorola. More details after it >ocomes and I try it, but some reviews said it had very few deviations >from vanilla Android. So I should be able to find the settings etc. >that you guys or online articles tell me to use. > > >For the record, I was lossing interest in the SD card, but I had a Redmi >note 8 pro, and they now have Redmi Note 17 Pro. I tried 17, 15, 14, >13, and maybe back to 12 before I found one that woud use an SD card. I am considering getting a Redmi 15c or a Redmi A7 Pro, both of which, I am told, make provision for an SD card. The 15c appears to have a better specification than the A7 Pro, but costs less. I'm not sure how that works. There are a few other phones on my list to consider, but all of them are said have provision for an SD card. If they don't have that, they don't get on my list. I'm not sure of the difference between a SIM and an ESIM, but had assumed that an ESIM replaced the physical card. From what I read here, it doesn't. Does it matter? -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-11 14:37 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <ne0jcoFeujmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #154900 |
On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 06:20:10 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: > I am considering getting a Redmi 15c or a Redmi A7 Pro, both of which, > I am told, make provision for an SD card. The 15c appears to have a > better specification than the A7 Pro, but costs less. I'm not sure how > that works. Xiaomi Redmi A7 Pro <https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_a7_pro_5g-14616.php> Xiaomi Redmi 15C <https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_15c_5g-14039.php> > There are a few other phones on my list to consider, but all of them > are said have provision for an SD card. If they don't have that, they > don't get on my list. Are you planning to encrypt that microSD card? > I'm not sure of the difference between a SIM and an ESIM, but had > assumed that an ESIM replaced the physical card. From what I read > here, it doesn't. Does it matter? A7 Pro has got Nano-SIM + Nano-SIM, same with 15C. I had never heard of a physical eSIM, but apparantly it's a thing. A (non physical) eSIM can be handy when you travel abroad. You could easily buy one online and you don't have to wait until it arrives via snail mail. -- s|b
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-11 10:21 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <78bm7l5cuk198fck56k70rp4v172i61dku@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #154921 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 11 Aug 2026 14:37:56 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 06:20:10 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: > >> I am considering getting a Redmi 15c or a Redmi A7 Pro, both of which, >> I am told, make provision for an SD card. The 15c appears to have a >> better specification than the A7 Pro, but costs less. I'm not sure how >> that works. > >Xiaomi Redmi A7 Pro ><https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_a7_pro_5g-14616.php> > >Xiaomi Redmi 15C ><https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_15c_5g-14039.php> Yes, I see here it's under Memory Card slot microSDXC (dedicated slot) for both 5G and 4G versions of both phones. This is what I hate about so many models being available. I like Xiaomli but if I were devoted to it I'd be very unhpappy to find these phones had SD slots 2 days after I bought another phone, and after I checked the Redmi Note Pro 17, 15, 14, and 13. How am I supposed to know that A7 Pro is more or less Pro than Note Pro. > >> There are a few other phones on my list to consider, but all of them >> are said have provision for an SD card. If they don't have that, they >> don't get on my list. > >Are you planning to encrypt that microSD card? > >> I'm not sure of the difference between a SIM and an ESIM, but had >> assumed that an ESIM replaced the physical card. Yes, normally. I think the physical esim must have come later for phones (all of them originally) which didn't have esim built-in. >> From what I read >> here, it doesn't. Does it matter? A physical esim takes a slot in the tray, and if there are any phones with only one slot these days, you'd have to take your regular sim out and put in the esim. > >A7 Pro has got Nano-SIM + Nano-SIM, same with 15C. I had never heard of >a physical eSIM, but apparantly it's a thing. A (non physical) eSIM can >be handy when you travel abroad. You could easily buy one online and you >don't have to wait until it arrives via snail mail. For this trip, I seem to have lost the sim for the company I deal with and they don't mail to the US. I have to stop at a bookstore on the way out of the airport. Probably be tired and I hope there is no line. But it looks like they sell esim connectivity for the same price. IIUC I have to get them to send me a profile, script, program, whatever to load into the esim before I get there. And then there is Peru, where you need an esim or international roaming (which did not work for my phone) or a local friend, because you can't buy a sim there if you're not a Peruvian. It had something to do with stopping fraud.
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-11 08:18 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <115fi1b$214n$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #154921 |
s|b wrote: >> There are a few other phones on my list to consider, but all of them >> are said have provision for an SD card. If they don't have that, they >> don't get on my list. > > Are you planning to encrypt that microSD card? What is the implication being made here?
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| From | Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 06:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <pirn7ldc386qdockn9mculqhd1pt6ggur5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #154921 |
On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 14:37:56 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 06:20:10 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: > >> I am considering getting a Redmi 15c or a Redmi A7 Pro, both of which, >> I am told, make provision for an SD card. The 15c appears to have a >> better specification than the A7 Pro, but costs less. I'm not sure how >> that works. > >Xiaomi Redmi A7 Pro ><https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_a7_pro_5g-14616.php> > >Xiaomi Redmi 15C ><https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_15c_5g-14039.php> > >> There are a few other phones on my list to consider, but all of them >> are said have provision for an SD card. If they don't have that, they >> don't get on my list. > >Are you planning to encrypt that microSD card? No. What difference would it make if I were? >> I'm not sure of the difference between a SIM and an ESIM, but had >> assumed that an ESIM replaced the physical card. From what I read >> here, it doesn't. Does it matter? > >A7 Pro has got Nano-SIM + Nano-SIM, same with 15C. I had never heard of >a physical eSIM, but apparantly it's a thing. A (non physical) eSIM can >be handy when you travel abroad. You could easily buy one online and you >don't have to wait until it arrives via snail mail. I'm not planning to travel abroad any time soon. Last time I did was in 2013, when I visited Namibia and Botswana, and yes, buying a SIM to use in each country and changing SIMs four times at the border was a bit of a schlep, so an ESIM might be useful if I were planning to travel, but I'm not. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-11 20:47 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <115gttq$g5o$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #154931 |
Steve Hayes wrote: >>Are you planning to encrypt that microSD card? > > No. > > What difference would it make if I were? Given s|b is a known troll, I suspect he's trying to intimate that the only way "he" can consider using an sd card is as "adoptable storage", when almost nobody uses sd cards that way. We use them as "portable storage". What the s|b troll is likely alluding to, by playing coy games (which prove s|b is a troll) is if you encrypt the card, the encryption key remains on the phone. But almost nobody bothers with encryption on sd cards nowadays. The troll may also be alluding to the slower speed of sd cards when enryption/decryption activities occur, but again, being a troll, he never said why he asked the question. Trolls like s|b just want to play games. Given the troll is just playing his troll games, let's see how he responds.
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