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  Fairphone now available in the US acmeoid <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 23:58 -0600
    Re: Fairphone now available in the US "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-31 02:54 -0700
      Re: Fairphone now available in the US Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-08-31 13:05 +0100
        Re: Fairphone now available in the US Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 10:44 +0100
      Re: Fairphone now available in the US "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-31 19:31 +0200
        Re: Fairphone now available in the US "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-01 05:58 -0700
          Re: Fairphone now available in the US "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-01 16:12 +0200
    Re: Fairphone now available in the US "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-31 19:26 +0200
      Re: Fairphone now available in the US "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-08-31 22:14 +0200
        Re: Fairphone now available in the US [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-01 12:44 +0200
          Re: Fairphone now available in the US [OT] "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-09-01 15:43 +0200
            Re: Fairphone now available in the US [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-01 16:20 +0200
              Re: Fairphone now available in the US [OT] "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-09-01 17:53 +0200

#155409 — Fairphone now available in the US

Don't know much about the company but I am a proponent
(in general) of FIY

https://www.wired.com/story/you-can-finally-buy-a-fairphone-a-sustainable-repairable-smartphone-in-the-us/
Aug 18, 2026

You Can Finally Buy a Fairphone—a Sustainable, Repairable
Smartphone—in the US

More than a decade after launching in Europe, the
Netherlands company is now selling its repairable phones
in the US, starting with the Fairphone (Gen 6+).
...

Comes with a screwdriver. Cute.

"The Dutch company is bringing its repairable and
sustainably built Android smartphone—the Fairphone
(Gen 6+)—to the US. Each one comes with a
screwdriver."

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#155415

acmeoid wrote:
> 
> Don't know much about the company but I am a proponent
> (in general) of FIY
> 
> https://www.wired.com/story/you-can-finally-buy-a-fairphone-a-
> sustainable-repairable-smartphone-in-the-us/
> Aug 18, 2026
> 
> You Can Finally Buy a Fairphone—a Sustainable, Repairable
> Smartphone—in the US
> 
> More than a decade after launching in Europe, the
> Netherlands company is now selling its repairable phones
> in the US, starting with the Fairphone (Gen 6+).
> ...
> 
> Comes with a screwdriver. Cute.
> 
> "The Dutch company is bringing its repairable and
> sustainably built Android smartphone—the Fairphone
> (Gen 6+)—to the US. Each one comes with a
> screwdriver."

"A replacement screen from Fairphone costs just $90."

I have easily taken apart Samsung phones and replaced screens with ones
that cost under $25 on Amazon. Batteries are cheap and really, not that
difficult to replace either. I've also replaced microphones and speakers
in them.

Then there's the cost of the phones themselves:

"The new Fairphone is available on Amazon and at Fairphone.com for $650..."

I paid around $165 for my Samsung Galaxy A26 5G. Admittedly, it's locked
to the carrier, but oh well...

-- 
John C. I filter crossposts, various trolls & dizum.com. Doing this
makes this newsgroup easier to read & more on-topic. Take back the tech
companies from India & industry from China.

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#155417

On 2026-08-31 10:54, John C. wrote:
> acmeoid wrote:
>>
>> Don't know much about the company but I am a proponent
>> (in general) of FIY
>>
>> https://www.wired.com/story/you-can-finally-buy-a-fairphone-a-
>> sustainable-repairable-smartphone-in-the-us/
>> Aug 18, 2026
>>
>> You Can Finally Buy a Fairphone—a Sustainable, Repairable
>> Smartphone—in the US
>>
>> More than a decade after launching in Europe, the
>> Netherlands company is now selling its repairable phones
>> in the US, starting with the Fairphone (Gen 6+).
>> ...
>>
>> Comes with a screwdriver. Cute.
>>
>> "The Dutch company is bringing its repairable and
>> sustainably built Android smartphone—the Fairphone
>> (Gen 6+)—to the US. Each one comes with a
>> screwdriver."
> 
> "A replacement screen from Fairphone costs just $90."
> 
> I have easily taken apart Samsung phones and replaced screens with ones
> that cost under $25 on Amazon. Batteries are cheap and really, not that
> difficult to replace either. I've also replaced microphones and speakers
> in them.
> 
> Then there's the cost of the phones themselves:
> 
> "The new Fairphone is available on Amazon and at Fairphone.com for $650..."
> 
> I paid around $165 for my Samsung Galaxy A26 5G. Admittedly, it's locked
> to the carrier, but oh well...

Yes, there's been a similar attempt to produce modular, user 
configurable and repairable laptops ...

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/feb/28/framework-laptop-16-review-modular-pc-keyboard-port-graphics-card

... but all such attempts potentially suffer from a common problem: 
modularity on its own is not enough to ensure economic repairability, 
what is needed also is interchangeability of parts so that replacements 
are widely and economically available.  If the screen in a Dell laptop 
cannot be used in an HP laptop, or the screen on a Samsung phone cannot 
be used on an Apple phone, then replacements for any one of them will be 
more expensive, perhaps uneconomically so, because of the limited market.

Manufacturers worldwide would need to agree interchangeable device 
component standards such as used to exist for IBM compatible PCs with 
their open standard architecture, but, of course, there are strong 
commercial reasons why they might not want to do that.

-- 

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#155451

(It'd probably be fitting to move this to e.g. comp.misc at some point,
my reply below is already about laptops, not smartphones.)

On 2026-08-31, Java Jive wrote:

> On 2026-08-31 10:54, John C. wrote:
>> acmeoid wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't know much about the company but I am a proponent
>>> (in general) of FIY
>>>
>>> https://www.wired.com/story/you-can-finally-buy-a-fairphone-a-
>>> sustainable-repairable-smartphone-in-the-us/
>>> Aug 18, 2026
>>>
>>> You Can Finally Buy a Fairphone—a Sustainable, Repairable
>>> Smartphone—in the US
>>>
>>> More than a decade after launching in Europe, the
>>> Netherlands company is now selling its repairable phones
>>> in the US, starting with the Fairphone (Gen 6+).
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Comes with a screwdriver. Cute.
>>>
>>> "The Dutch company is bringing its repairable and
>>> sustainably built Android smartphone—the Fairphone
>>> (Gen 6+)—to the US. Each one comes with a
>>> screwdriver."
>>
>> "A replacement screen from Fairphone costs just $90."
>>
>> I have easily taken apart Samsung phones and replaced screens with ones
>> that cost under $25 on Amazon. Batteries are cheap and really, not that
>> difficult to replace either. I've also replaced microphones and speakers
>> in them.
>>
>> Then there's the cost of the phones themselves:
>>
>> "The new Fairphone is available on Amazon and at Fairphone.com for $650..."
>>
>> I paid around $165 for my Samsung Galaxy A26 5G. Admittedly, it's locked
>> to the carrier, but oh well...
>
> Yes, there's been a similar attempt to produce modular, user
> configurable and repairable laptops ...
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/feb/28/framework-laptop-16-review-modular-pc-keyboard-port-graphics-card

Besides issues with the design itself, I've been seeing people
commenting that Framework seems to be somehow embroilered in some
far-right thing...

> ... but all such attempts potentially suffer from a common problem:
> modularity on its own is not enough to ensure economic repairability,
> what is needed also is interchangeability of parts so that
> replacements are widely and economically available.  If the screen in
> a Dell laptop cannot be used in an HP laptop, or the screen on a
> Samsung phone cannot be used on an Apple phone, then replacements for
> any one of them will be more expensive, perhaps uneconomically so,
> because of the limited market.

The bigger issue is laptops being designed not to be easily serviceable
at all. Some "consumer"/"home" laptops were already bad quality, I guess
now things are getting worse?

> Manufacturers worldwide would need to agree interchangeable device
> component standards such as used to exist for IBM compatible PCs with
> their open standard architecture, but, of course, there are strong
> commercial reasons why they might not want to do that.

Like standards for laptop PATA and SATA drive connectors, and optical
drive connectors (I think the same in SATA, but different for PATA?),
and expansion cards (here the problem has been systems that try to
maintain a list of allowed PCI or PCI express devices in the firmware
and refuse to use something not listed, even though the interface itself
poses no issue, to show how shitty designs have been a thing for a long
while). And, for external expansion, PCMCIA and Cardbus.

It's not for lack of examples :-)

(Let's not look into external medium connectors for PCMCIA NICs,
though...)

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#155433

On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 02:54:31 -0700, John C. wrote:

8< snip >8
> I have easily taken apart Samsung phones and replaced screens with ones
> that cost under $25 on Amazon. Batteries are cheap and really, not that
> difficult to replace either. I've also replaced microphones and speakers
> in them.

I've taken apart a PS4 controller and now my way around a PC, but I'm
reluctant to open up a smartphone. I've seen YouTube vids where people
replace a battery and I'm reluctant to give it a try.

-- 
s|b

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#155459

s|b wrote:
> John C. wrote:
>> 
>> 8< snip >8
>> I have easily taken apart Samsung phones and replaced screens with ones
>> that cost under $25 on Amazon. Batteries are cheap and really, not that
>> difficult to replace either. I've also replaced microphones and speakers
>> in them.
> 
> I've taken apart a PS4 controller and now my way around a PC, but I'm
> reluctant to open up a smartphone. I've seen YouTube vids where people
> replace a battery and I'm reluctant to give it a try.

Cell phone batteries are strongly glued in place, but using a
credit-card-like piece of plastic patiently will get it loose. I've done
this a couple of times.

Some glues harden up, and there's rarely anything you can do to get
something loose from them. However, the glue used on cell phone
batteries doesn't harden up.

-- 
John C. I filter crossposts, various trolls & dizum.com. Doing this
makes this newsgroup easier to read & more on-topic. Take back the tech
companies from India & industry from China.

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#155462

On Tue, 1 Sep 2026 05:58:14 -0700, John C. wrote:

> Cell phone batteries are strongly glued in place, but using a
> credit-card-like piece of plastic patiently will get it loose. I've done
> this a couple of times.
> 
> Some glues harden up, and there's rarely anything you can do to get
> something loose from them. However, the glue used on cell phone
> batteries doesn't harden up.

Good to know!

-- 
s|b

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#155432

On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 23:58:51 -0600, acmeoid wrote:

> "The Dutch company is bringing its repairable and
> sustainably built Android smartphone—the Fairphone
> (Gen 6+)—to the US. Each one comes with a
> screwdriver."

I looked at their website. The Fairphone (Gen. 6+) is 649 euro. 12 GB
RAM, CPU Snapdragon® 7s Gen 4.

Gen 6 is 599 euro. So it's not a cheap phone.

As for the replaceable battery:

<https://www.ecopv-eu.com/en/blog-en/replaceable-smartphone-batteries-2027-eu-regulation/>

Starting in 2027, there will be a noticeable change for smartphones in
the EU: The removable battery is making a comeback. What used to be
standard is returning due to legal requirements for new models.

What I also don't like is that they're working with Klara. I know young
people who are in debt because of Klara. Buying stuff with money they
don't have.

-- 
s|b

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#155440

s|b,

> What I also don't like is that they're working with Klara. I know young
> people who are in debt because of Klara.

Why singling out a Klara ?   There are *lots* of companies who offer 
credit-cards, credit or "financing".   All of them prey on the unweary.

> Buying stuff with money they don't have.

And thats the actual problem : people who want/"need" to have something 
*now*, and cannot bring themselves - for whatever reason! - to save money 
first.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#155453 — Re: Fairphone now available in the US [OT]

On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 22:14:49 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

> s|b,
> 
> > What I also don't like is that they're working with Klara. I know young
> > people who are in debt because of Klara.
 
> Why singling out a Klara ?   There are *lots* of companies who offer 
> credit-cards, credit or "financing".   All of them prey on the unweary.

I'm sorry, it's actually Klarna. Why I mentioned them? Because they're
on fairphone.com for one. Another thing: in Belgium a lot of people were
using a certain app for their customer cards. Then Klarna bought this
app and started offering credit to all buyers.
 
> > Buying stuff with money they don't have.
 
> And thats the actual problem : people who want/"need" to have something 
> *now*, and cannot bring themselves - for whatever reason! - to save money 
> first.

And companies like Klarna take advantage of that, that is the real
problem.

-- 
s|b

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#155461 — Re: Fairphone now available in the US [OT]

s|b,

>> > Buying stuff with money they don't have.
>
>> And thats the actual problem : people who want/"need" to have
>> something *now*, and cannot bring themselves - for whatever reason!
>> - to save money first.
>
> And companies like Klarna take advantage of that, that is the real
> problem.

I disagree.

Yes, klarna and lots of others offer credit.  But nobody is pressing anybody
into accepting such an offer.  Its the (young) buyers own choice.

Otherwise you could blame car-manufacturers for people speeding, and sellers
of expensive bling-bling (rolex watches, heavy gold neck-chains, etc) for
the buyers being robbed of it, etc.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#155463 — Re: Fairphone now available in the US [OT]

On Tue, 1 Sep 2026 15:43:33 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

> s|b,
> 
> >> > Buying stuff with money they don't have.
> >
> >> And thats the actual problem : people who want/"need" to have
> >> something *now*, and cannot bring themselves - for whatever reason!
> >> - to save money first.
> >
> > And companies like Klarna take advantage of that, that is the real
> > problem.
 
> I disagree.

We can agree to disagree.
 
> Yes, klarna and lots of others offer credit.  But nobody is pressing anybody
> into accepting such an offer.  Its the (young) buyers own choice.

They're tempting them like Eve's apple to Adam.

BUY NOW!

PAY LATER!
.
.
.
.
.
.

(in a very small font)

at a huge interest rate.

Some people just aren't good at math or finances (or common sense).
Usually the ones at the bottom of the ladder. Scumbags like Klarna take
advantage of that.
 
> Otherwise you could blame car-manufacturers for people speeding, and sellers
> of expensive bling-bling (rolex watches, heavy gold neck-chains, etc) for
> the buyers being robbed of it, etc.

That's what we call 'een kromme vergelijking' (apples and oranges). You
disagree, so let's leave it at that.

-- 
s|b

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#155468 — Re: Fairphone now available in the US [OT]

s|b,

>> I disagree.
>
> We can agree to disagree.

I've got no problem with that. :-)

> They're tempting them like Eve's apple to Adam.
>
> BUY NOW!
>
> PAY LATER!
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
>
> (in a very small font)
>
> at a huge interest rate.
>
> Some people just aren't good at math or finances (or common sense).

Start with the common sense that if you can't get yourself to save money* to 
buy something, than how would you get yourself make monthly payments ?

* because you always, either forced or habitual, spend everything you have.

Thats the biggest problem.

Also, besides asking friends and/or family, western Europe has got a number 
of possibilities to inform oneself about the problems connected with and the 
real cost of buying on credit.

> Usually the ones at the bottom of the ladder. Scumbags like Klarna
> take advantage of that.

As I said, just like a number of other companies.

>> Otherwise you could blame car-manufacturers for people speeding, and
>> sellers of expensive bling-bling (rolex watches, heavy gold neck-chains,
>> etc) for the buyers being robbed of it, etc.
>
> That's what we call 'een kromme vergelijking' (apples and oranges).

Really ?

And pardon me, but I always get an odd feeling when someone claims something 
but forgets to support it. :-|

But lets dissect the first one :

"Otherwise you could blame car-manufacturers for people speeding,"

- You are driving a car, and can see the maximum speed signs along the way.

- You know that its not a good idea to be speeding, but you choose to do it 
anyway.

- You get busted.

- You claim its not because of your own choice, but because the 
car-manufacturers fast(er than the current speed limit) car has tempted you 
to drive too fast.

I think it quite nicely fits your idea that the person choosing to do 
something may not be blamed for that choice.

> You disagree, so let's leave it at that.

I think a person is responsible for his own choices.  You don't seem to 
think so.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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