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Re: Fairphone now available in the US [OT]

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s|b,

>> I disagree.
>
> We can agree to disagree.

I've got no problem with that. :-)

> They're tempting them like Eve's apple to Adam.
>
> BUY NOW!
>
> PAY LATER!
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
>
> (in a very small font)
>
> at a huge interest rate.
>
> Some people just aren't good at math or finances (or common sense).

Start with the common sense that if you can't get yourself to save money* to 
buy something, than how would you get yourself make monthly payments ?

* because you always, either forced or habitual, spend everything you have.

Thats the biggest problem.

Also, besides asking friends and/or family, western Europe has got a number 
of possibilities to inform oneself about the problems connected with and the 
real cost of buying on credit.

> Usually the ones at the bottom of the ladder. Scumbags like Klarna
> take advantage of that.

As I said, just like a number of other companies.

>> Otherwise you could blame car-manufacturers for people speeding, and
>> sellers of expensive bling-bling (rolex watches, heavy gold neck-chains,
>> etc) for the buyers being robbed of it, etc.
>
> That's what we call 'een kromme vergelijking' (apples and oranges).

Really ?

And pardon me, but I always get an odd feeling when someone claims something 
but forgets to support it. :-|

But lets dissect the first one :

"Otherwise you could blame car-manufacturers for people speeding,"

- You are driving a car, and can see the maximum speed signs along the way.

- You know that its not a good idea to be speeding, but you choose to do it 
anyway.

- You get busted.

- You claim its not because of your own choice, but because the 
car-manufacturers fast(er than the current speed limit) car has tempted you 
to drive too fast.

I think it quite nicely fits your idea that the person choosing to do 
something may not be blamed for that choice.

> You disagree, so let's leave it at that.

I think a person is responsible for his own choices.  You don't seem to 
think so.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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Fairphone now available in the US acmeoid <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 23:58 -0600
  Re: Fairphone now available in the US "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-31 02:54 -0700
    Re: Fairphone now available in the US Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-08-31 13:05 +0100
      Re: Fairphone now available in the US Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 10:44 +0100
    Re: Fairphone now available in the US "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-31 19:31 +0200
      Re: Fairphone now available in the US "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-01 05:58 -0700
        Re: Fairphone now available in the US "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-01 16:12 +0200
  Re: Fairphone now available in the US "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-31 19:26 +0200
    Re: Fairphone now available in the US "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-08-31 22:14 +0200
      Re: Fairphone now available in the US [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-01 12:44 +0200
        Re: Fairphone now available in the US [OT] "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-09-01 15:43 +0200
          Re: Fairphone now available in the US [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-01 16:20 +0200
            Re: Fairphone now available in the US [OT] "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-09-01 17:53 +0200

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