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Started by"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
First post2026-07-09 18:33 +0200
Last post2026-07-11 23:53 -0400
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  contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-09 18:33 +0200
    Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-09 18:02 +0100
      Re: contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-09 20:08 +0200
        Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-10 11:26 +0100
          Re: contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-10 12:49 +0200
          Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-10 15:30 +0200
    Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-09 19:26 +0200
      Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-09 19:30 +0200
        Re: contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-09 20:10 +0200
          Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-09 22:21 +0200
            Re: contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-10 12:50 +0200
              Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-10 15:32 +0200
          Re: contacts Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-11 08:50 +0100
            Re: contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-11 12:25 +0200
              Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-12 09:59 +0200
            Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-12 19:31 -0400
              Re: contacts Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-14 17:33 +0100
                Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-14 13:25 -0400
                  Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-14 17:01 -0400
        Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-10 13:18 +0200
          Re: contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-10 13:38 +0000
            Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-10 16:49 +0200
              Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-10 18:32 +0100
                Re: contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-10 18:05 +0000
                Re: contacts Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-07-10 19:12 +0100
                  Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-11 18:37 +0100
                Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-12 11:58 +0200
                  Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-12 19:36 -0400
                    Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-12 19:44 -0400
      Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-10 13:16 +0200
    Re: contacts "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-09 22:17 +0200
      Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-09 22:22 +0200
        Re: contacts "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-10 11:12 +0200
          Re: contacts Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-07-10 11:33 +0200
            Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-10 13:22 +0200
              Re: contacts "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-10 17:53 +0200
        Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-10 13:20 +0200
          Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-12 00:03 -0400
            Re: contacts ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-12 07:42 +0000
              Re: contacts Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-12 09:44 +0100
                Re: contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-12 13:49 +0200
                  Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-12 16:18 +0000
                    Re: contacts "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-12 22:11 +0200
                      Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-12 21:31 +0000
                        Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-12 21:05 -0400
                          Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-13 01:52 +0000
                            Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-13 02:26 -0400
                              Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-13 16:50 +0000
                                Re: contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-13 20:04 +0000
                                  Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-13 21:17 +0000
                            Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-13 17:00 +0100
                              Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-13 17:00 +0000
                                Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-13 18:10 +0100
                                  Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-13 17:48 +0000
                        Re: contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-13 19:57 +0000
                          Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-14 12:45 +0100
                            Re: contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-14 14:07 +0000
                              Re: contacts Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-14 15:28 +0100
                                Re: contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-14 15:45 +0000
                          Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-14 16:06 +0200
              Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-12 12:04 +0200
            Re: contacts Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-12 09:53 +0100
            Re: contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-12 12:01 +0200
        Re: contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-07-10 16:10 +0000
          Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-12 00:03 -0400
    Re: contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-07-11 23:53 -0400

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#154425

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2026-07-12 12:04 +0200
Message-ID<112vor3$2nofl$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154418
Stefan Ram, 2026-07-12 09:42:

> Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote or quoted:
>> The debilitating drawback of the Pixel, for me, is the lack of sd card but
>> I understand that if I buy way too much storage, that isn't then an issue.
> 
>   I want an SD slot, too, but for a different reason: The SD
>   card is my data storage. I buy a new phone, plug in the SD
>   card from the old phone, and have all my data again!

My storage is my *server*. The phone is only a cache for it, not more.
All new data on the phone (e.g. pictures taken with the camera) will
immediately get synced to the server and older stuff will automatically
get deleted, so the internal memory does not need to be more than 128 GB.

-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#154421

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-12 09:53 +0100
Message-ID<112vklk$2m8je$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154417
On 2026-07-12, Maria Sophia wrote:

> Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> WTF should anyone buy a Samsung?
>> 
>> Because Samsung has a big marketing department and people realize such
>> problems only *after* they bought the phone.
>
> For some of us, the only Android brands to choose from are Pixel or
> Galaxy.

*sigh* I recently was trying to choose one to buy, and I did have a
tighter schedule for that (even though the previous phone still
works). I was basically limited by what stores nearby had in stock,
which was some stuff, but not really much. And once you target a price
range, choice may be more limited.

I wasn't able to get a small enough device, for example, because for
some reason the decent models they had, meeting other criteria, were all
bigger.

> As you know, when I was thinking of replacing my Samsung, I only looked at
> Pixel and Galaxy because there's a ton of customization documentation for
> both.
>
> The debilitating drawback of the Pixel, for me, is the lack of sd card but
> I understand that if I buy way too much storage, that isn't then an
> issue.

I also discovered that there's another trend: DSDS phones where the µSD
slot is one of the two nano-SIM slots... (That a lot of the dual SIM
phones on offering were DSDS in itself was also a thing I noticed:
there's no demand for DSDA, or is that only on higher price brackets?)

> Otherwise the answer to "Why buy a Samsung" is that many still have sd
> slots, which means you get portable storage for about 30 bucks a pop.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#154424

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2026-07-12 12:01 +0200
Message-ID<112vom0$2nofl$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154417
Maria Sophia, 2026-07-12 06:03:

> Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> WTF should anyone buy a Samsung?
>>
>> Because Samsung has a big marketing department and people realize such
>> problems only *after* they bought the phone.
> 
> For some of us, the only Android brands to choose from are Pixel or Galaxy.
> 
> As you know, when I was thinking of replacing my Samsung, I only looked at
> Pixel and Galaxy because there's a ton of customization documentation for
> both.
> 
> The debilitating drawback of the Pixel, for me, is the lack of sd card but
> I understand that if I buy way too much storage, that isn't then an issue.

So far the 128 GB in my Pixel 6a was always enough for me. And when I
once have to switch to a Pixel 10 or 11, 256 GB is also available even
in the cheaper "a" Models.



-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#154406

FromAJL <noemail@none.com>
Date2026-07-10 16:10 +0000
Message-ID<112r5ht$1c6vd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154391
On 7/9/26 1:22 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

>WTF should anyone buy a Samsung?

Dunno about the new ones but my Samsung Galaxy S10+ will be 7 years old next
 month and is still on the original battery so I can't complain. Course my
 use is light so it's likely a YMMV thing. When the battery does finally
 quit I may just replace it for a whopping 36 bucks US. BTW I'm posting this
 using the phone. It's a handy way to kill time while the wife shops...

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#154416

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-07-12 00:03 -0400
Message-ID<112v3lt$qv6$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#154406
AJL wrote:
>>WTF should anyone buy a Samsung?
> 
> Dunno about the new ones but my Samsung Galaxy S10+ will be 7 years old next
>  month and is still on the original battery so I can't complain. Course my
>  use is light so it's likely a YMMV thing. When the battery does finally
>  quit I may just replace it for a whopping 36 bucks US. BTW I'm posting this
>  using the phone. It's a handy way to kill time while the wife shops...

My Samsung was born in 2021 with a 5AH battery which can still start my car
today, five years later of daily use and charging only when it needs it.

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#154415

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-07-11 23:53 -0400
Message-ID<112v349$28tr$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#154381
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Just found out that Samsung has its own contacts app.
> 
> And if you want Thunderbird (K-9?) to use contacts, you have to install 
> the google contacts app to provide the API.

I have a Samsung but I use OpenContacts (which has is own database, for
privacy) and which ties to the dialer & some apps (like your default
SMS/MMS messenger and WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, but not an MUA AFAIK).

To your point though, apps like Google Contacts, K9/Thunderbird, WhatsApp,
Signal, etc. all read from the standard contacts provider but apparently
Samsung uses its own contacts provider most of the time. Hence, some apps
cannot access Samsung's contacts provider because Samsung does not expose
all the standard API endpoints that the apps expect.

That means, depending on how you save/sync, contacts may or may not be in
the Android SQLite contacts DB available to other apps like the K9 MUA.

Since Samsung uses its own contacts provider, contacts saved to a Samsung
account or device storage aren't stored in the standard Android contacts
database. And since Thunderbird/K-9 relies on the standard Android Contacts
Provider API (which Samsung doesn't fully expose), installing Google
Contacts restores that API and lets K-9 access your address book.

The more I learn about Samsung phones, the more I realize it's like a
completely different Android.	.

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