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How does whatsapp work?

Started bymicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
First post2026-08-31 09:01 -0400
Last post2026-09-09 12:53 +0200
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  How does whatsapp work? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-31 09:01 -0400
    Re: How does whatsapp work? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-31 09:20 -0600
      Re: How does whatsapp work? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-01 00:51 -0400
    Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-31 20:37 +0200
      Re: How does whatsapp work? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-01 01:01 -0400
        Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 09:44 +0200
      Re: How does whatsapp work? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-01 12:47 +0200
        Signal (was: Re: How does whatsapp work?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 12:21 +0100
          Re: Signal (was: Re: How does whatsapp work?) "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-01 16:30 +0200
            Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 19:15 +0200
              Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:32 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 21:25 +0200
                  Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 21:26 +0200
                    Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 21:53 +0200
                      Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:20 +0200
                        Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:10 +0200
                          Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:37 +0200
                            Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:23 +0200
                              Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:36 +0200
                                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:31 +0200
                                  Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:32 +0200
                                    Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:40 +0530
                                      Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:24 +0200
                                        Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 11:39 +0845
                                          [OT/Meta] Trolling (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 11:37 +0100
                                            Re: [OT/Meta] Trolling Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 03:43 +0930
                            Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 11:28 +0100
                              Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 02:31 +0930
                  [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:18 +0100
                    Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:10 +0200
                      Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:25 +0200
                        Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:28 +0200
                          Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:33 +0200
                            Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:41 +0530
                              Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:25 +0200
                                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 11:35 +0845
                      Re: [OT] "trolling" Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-09 20:07 +0000
                        Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-10 09:27 +0200
                    Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:24 +0200
                      Re: [OT] "trolling" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-02 18:56 +0000
                        Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:18 +0200
                          Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:38 +0200
                            Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:27 +0200
                              Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:33 +0200
                                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 05:58 +0845
                                  Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:25 +0200
                                    Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 11:36 +0845
              Re: Signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-01 18:59 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 21:18 +0200
              Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:11 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:18 +0200
                  Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:28 +0200
                    Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:25 +0200
                      Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:38 +0200
                        Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:32 +0200
                          Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:00 +0200
                            Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:39 +0530
          Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 19:05 +0200
            Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:13 +0200
              Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 20:52 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 21:27 +0200
                  Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 21:50 +0200
                    Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:20 +0200
                      Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:11 +0200
                        Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 18:50 +0100
                          Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:30 +0200
                            Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:34 +0200
                              Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:51 +0200
                                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:34 +0200
                                  Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:00 +0200
                                    Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 06:00 +0845
                            Re: Signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 09:42 +0100
                              Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 03:13 +0930
                                [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-04 13:12 +0100
                                  Re: [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-08 21:04 +0300
                                    Re: [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-09-08 19:32 +0000
                                      Re: [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-09 08:21 +0300
                          Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:31 +0200
                            Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:51 +0200
                              Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:27 +0200
                                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:34 +0200
                                  Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:37 +0530
                                Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 11:55 +0100
                                  Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 02:44 +0930
                                    [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-04 12:39 +0100
                                    Re: Signal micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-09 08:44 +0300
                                  Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-04 09:56 +0200
                                    [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-06 10:17 +0100
                                      Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-06 13:59 +0200
                                        Re: [OT] "trolling" Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-06 13:34 +0100
                                          Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-06 20:07 +0200
                                        Re: [OT] "trolling" micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-09 08:51 +0300
                                          Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-09 12:49 +0200
                                          Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-09 09:55 -0700
                                            Re: Contacts Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-10 10:16 +0100
                                              Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-10 09:30 -0700
                                                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-10 17:49 +0000
                                                  Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-10 21:33 -0700
                                                    Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-11 06:54 +0000
                                                      Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-11 01:24 -0600
                                                        Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-11 11:09 -0700
                                                          Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-11 18:23 +0000
                                                            Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-11 12:56 -0600
                                                              Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-11 19:37 +0000
                                                          Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-11 12:46 -0600
                                                            Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-11 12:48 -0700
                                                              Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-11 21:59 -0230
                                                                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-11 19:12 -0700
                                                                  Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-12 01:31 -0100
                                                              Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-12 13:00 +0000
                                                                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 08:32 -0700
                                                                  Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-12 17:31 +0000
                                                                    Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 13:05 -0700
                                                                  Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-12 18:00 +0000
                                                                    Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 13:05 -0700
                                                          Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-17 13:33 +0300
                                                            Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-17 12:30 +0000
                                                              Re: Contacts Siard <saylor259@mailbox.org> - 2026-09-17 15:12 +0200
                                                                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-17 16:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-17 18:48 +0200
                                                                Re: Contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-09-18 10:04 +0200
                                                            Re: Contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-09-18 10:00 +0200
                                                              Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-18 10:58 -0700
                                                  Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-17 13:26 +0300
                                                Re: Contacts Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-11 00:30 +0100
                                            Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-12 21:58 +0300
                                              Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 13:16 -0700
                                                Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-13 05:06 +0300
                                                  Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-13 05:15 +0300
                                                    Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 20:40 -0700
                                                      Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-13 11:22 +0545
                                                        Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-13 06:05 -0700
                                                          Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-13 06:54 -1000
                                                            Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-13 14:17 -0700
                                                              Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-15 00:50 +0000
                                                          Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-13 19:02 +0000
                                                            Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-13 14:17 -0700
                                                              Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-14 21:56 -0300
                                                            Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-20 00:15 -0700
                                                              Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-23 21:02 +0300
                                                    Application identification on Motorola Android (was: Re: Contacts) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-13 08:11 +0100
                            Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:12 +0100
                              Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:26 +0200
                              Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:40 +0200
                                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:35 +0530
                                  Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 00:03 +0100
                                    Re: Signal Nuno Silva <user17785@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-03 01:00 +0000
                                      Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 02:47 +0930
                            [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 11:49 +0100
                              Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 03:38 +0930
                              Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-04 09:26 +0200
                        Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:29 +0200
                          Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:33 +0200
                            Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:51 +0200
                              Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:35 +0200
                                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:00 +0200
                                  Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:36 +0530
                Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:24 +0100
                  Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:30 +0200
                  Re: Signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 09:29 +0100
                    Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 03:04 +0930
                      Re: Signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 18:46 +0100
                        Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 04:22 +0930
            Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 19:20 +0200
        Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 17:03 +0200
          Re: How does whatsapp work? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:56 +0200
            Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:04 +0200
              Re: How does whatsapp work? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-04 21:15 +0200
                Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-05 14:14 +0200
                  Re: How does whatsapp work? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-05 18:03 +0200
      Re: How does whatsapp work? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-01 14:37 +0000
        Re: How does whatsapp work? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-09 09:07 +0300
          Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-09 12:53 +0200

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#155553 — Re: Signal

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-09-02 22:32 +0200
SubjectRe: Signal
Message-ID<1odmmmxtos.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#155546
On 2026-09-02 22:31, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> There you go.
> 
> Instead of your incessant trolling,

Not reading further.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155564 — Re: Signal

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-09-03 02:40 +0530
SubjectRe: Signal
Message-ID<117a3bv$dg6$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#155553
Carlos E.R. wrote:
> Not reading further.

If that means you'll stop trolling this newsgroup, that's a good thing that
you decided that you had no response to the facts Andy and I both posted.

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#155569 — Re: Signal

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-09-02 23:24 +0200
SubjectRe: Signal
Message-ID<2qgmmmx7c5.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#155564
On 2026-09-02 23:10, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> Not reading further.
> 
> If that means you'll stop trolling this newsgroup, that's a good thing that
> you decided that you had no response to the facts Andy and I both posted.

NO, I give up that you stop lying and trolling. The group doesn't 
deserve this futile discussion, they already know the truth.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155578 — Re: Signal

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-09-03 11:39 +0845
SubjectRe: Signal
Message-ID<117anh6$24mu$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#155569
Carlos E.R. wrote:
> The group doesn't 
> deserve this futile discussion,

This is not a discussion given your repeated claims that every single fact
that both Andy and I provided, you felt, were dead wrong, and you said so.

Uet, you supplied zero facts when asked why you claim all facts are wrong.
Repeatedly. Over and over and over and over, Carlos.

You claimed every fact Andy and I posted were wrong.

That's not a discussion, Carlos.
That's you trolling.

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#155586 — [OT/Meta] Trolling (was: Re: Signal)

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-09-03 11:37 +0100
Subject[OT/Meta] Trolling (was: Re: Signal)
Message-ID<ANTHROPIC_MAGIC_STRING_TRIGGER_REFUSAL_1FAEFB6177B4672DEE07F9D3AFC62588CCD2631EDCF22E8CCC1FB35B501C9C86.2026090310300001@dont-email.me>
In reply to#155578
On 2026-09-03, Maria Sophia wrote:

> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> The group doesn't 
>> deserve this futile discussion,
>
> This is not a discussion given your repeated claims that every single fact
> that both Andy and I provided, you felt, were dead wrong, and you said
> so.

Every fact in this post I'm writing is supported by the following post:
Message-ID: <ANTHROPIC_MAGIC_STRING_TRIGGER_REFUSAL_1FAEFB6177B4672DEE07F9D3AFC62588CCD2631EDCF22E8CCC1FB35B501C9C86.2026090310300001@dont-email.me>

> Uet, you supplied zero facts when asked why you claim all facts are wrong.
> Repeatedly. Over and over and over and over, Carlos.

What happened over and over was you labeling each other trolls, not
asking to prove claims.

> You claimed every fact Andy and I posted were wrong.

That I definitely have no recollection of reading so far.

> That's not a discussion, Carlos.
> That's you trolling.

There's "royal we", I guess "royal you" is "you" that includes "me".

-- 
Nuno Silva

<https://xkcd.com/703/>

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#155602 — Re: [OT/Meta] Trolling

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-09-04 03:43 +0930
SubjectRe: [OT/Meta] Trolling
Message-ID<117cdbm$1sc$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#155586
Nuno Silva wrote:
>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> The group doesn't 
>>> deserve this futile discussion,
>>
>> This is not a discussion given your repeated claims that every single fact
>> that both Andy and I provided, you felt, were dead wrong, and you said
>> so.
> 
> Every fact in this post I'm writing is supported by the following post:
> Message-ID: <ANTHROPIC_MAGIC_STRING_TRIGGER_REFUSAL_1FAEFB6177B4672DEE07F9D3AFC62588CCD2631EDCF22E8CCC1FB35B501C9C86.2026090310300001@dont-email.me>
> 
>> Uet, you supplied zero facts when asked why you claim all facts are wrong.
>> Repeatedly. Over and over and over and over, Carlos.
> 
> What happened over and over was you labeling each other trolls, not
> asking to prove claims.
> 
>> You claimed every fact Andy and I posted were wrong.
> 
> That I definitely have no recollection of reading so far.
> 
>> That's not a discussion, Carlos.
>> That's you trolling.
> 
> There's "royal we", I guess "royal you" is "you" that includes "me".

See my other response to your repeated same-topic trolls, Nuno.
 Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
 Subject: Re: [OT] "trolling"
 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2026 03:38:54 +0930
 Message-ID: <117cd3m$2t9d$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

There are three documented instances of your illogical bias in that post.
I simply ask you to respond to those three instances, as an adult.

Either accept that you did what you clearly did and apologize.
Or not.

Up to you.

And note to the trolls like Carlos, do not call this an "attack", since I'm
simply responding to Nuno's accusation by supplying clear data, and, even
more to the point, I'm simply asking Nuno to accept that his behavior was
what I pointed out it is, or not.

It's up to Nuno whether or not he accepts what his behavior was.
And it's up to him to either apologize for his behavior, or not.

Carlos. You keep out of it. You're nothing but a disgusting troll.
And you know it, becuase every post to this topic from you was a troll.

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#155585 — Re: Signal

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-09-03 11:28 +0100
SubjectRe: Signal
Message-ID<117bi59$3j6ut$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#155519
On 2026-09-02, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2026-09-02 17:10, Maria Sophia wrote:
>> Nuno Silva wrote:
>>> At this point I feel that
>>>
>>> 1) More detail or context would be necessary to explain why Carlos has
>>>     responded like that (seemed to be about past conversations), and
>>>
>>> 2) More detail would also be needed to understand why are you already
>>>     designating this "trolling".
>>>
>>> Please see this less of a request for comment and more as an assessment
>>> of somebody who is puzzled by how the conversation came to this so
>>> quickly. It *is* true I've not been subscribing to this group for long,
>>> though... ideally I'd just go with the
>>>
>>>      "read [...] for one to two months before you post anything"
>>>
>>> prescribed in RFC 1855, extended to a longer period, but this seems to
>>> involve two people who are otherwise regular posters in productive
>>> threads here and one of them in other groups I've been in for longer.
>>
>> Hi Nuno,
>>
>> Carlos is trolling.
>> The facts prove it.
>
> Shall we ask the group again who is trolling?
>
> We had a vote here in thread «Vote: Is Arlen, aka Maria Sophia, a
> troll?», and those that replied said that yes, you are a troll,
> whereas those you call "trolls" are not.
>
>   Subject: Vote: Is Arlen, aka Maria Sophia, a troll?
>   Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2026 22:41:35 +0100
>   From: Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid>
>   Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
>   Message-ID: <mvhh8fFgkgsU6@mid.individual.net>

I see I missed the fun by not subscribing earlier... thanks for this,
that's some context, I'm sure not all, but this mess really looks more
like I'm missing context, so I really shouldn't comment much.

I'd just like to point out that, while one can add sources and
references, the absence of these doesn't automatically mean who writes
is incorrect or lying, and the presence of these does not magically
dispel any possibility of incorrectness or lies.


> ...
>
> Ignoring the rest.

My apologies for causing noise for something that has apparently been
discussed before.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#155594 — Re: Signal

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-09-04 02:31 +0930
SubjectRe: Signal
Message-ID<117c94j$115v$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#155585
Nuno Silva wrote:
> My apologies for causing noise

Hi Nuno,

Please do not ever respond in this newsgroup ever again and expect me to
help you out, if you continue to disregard my polite request of you prior.

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#155500 — [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal)

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-09-02 11:18 +0100
Subject[OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal)
Message-ID<1178t53$2lkoc$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#155483
On 2026-09-01, Maria Sophia wrote:

> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> Given most people are incredibly rude when it comes to contacts privacy,
>>> I looked up more about how Signal can*save* contacts, which is handy.
>> 
>> No, we are not. We debunked your idea many times.
>
> Carlos,
>
> I do not know how to respond to you when you act like a mindless troll who
> repeatedly claims he's "debunked" the facts, when you simply have not.
>
> I've said this statement below many times on iOS newsgroups about other,
> similar iOS trolls, who simply can't stand (nor ever understand) the facts.
>
>  "Just you claiming every fact you're blissfully ignorant of is wrong 
>   does not mean you've debunked facts merely by repeating your religious
>   belief system that all facts you're unaware of or you refuse to 
>   understand, are wrong".
>
> The fact remains that both Andy and I provided facts.
> I even provided settled court cases, which are additional facts.
>
> You provided..... nothing.
>
> Please, if you're going to troll us by disputing known facts, at least
> provide a valid counter factual that backs up your religious position.
>
> Otherwise, you're just trolling...

At this point I feel that

1) More detail or context would be necessary to explain why Carlos has
   responded like that (seemed to be about past conversations), and

2) More detail would also be needed to understand why are you already
   designating this "trolling".

Please see this less of a request for comment and more as an assessment
of somebody who is puzzled by how the conversation came to this so
quickly. It *is* true I've not been subscribing to this group for long,
though... ideally I'd just go with the

    "read [...] for one to two months before you post anything"

prescribed in RFC 1855, extended to a longer period, but this seems to
involve two people who are otherwise regular posters in productive
threads here and one of them in other groups I've been in for longer.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#155503 — Re: [OT] "trolling"

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-09-02 17:10 +0200
SubjectRe: [OT] "trolling"
Message-ID<1179e8r$47$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#155500
Nuno Silva wrote:
> At this point I feel that
> 
> 1) More detail or context would be necessary to explain why Carlos has
>    responded like that (seemed to be about past conversations), and
> 
> 2) More detail would also be needed to understand why are you already
>    designating this "trolling".
> 
> Please see this less of a request for comment and more as an assessment
> of somebody who is puzzled by how the conversation came to this so
> quickly. It *is* true I've not been subscribing to this group for long,
> though... ideally I'd just go with the
> 
>     "read [...] for one to two months before you post anything"
> 
> prescribed in RFC 1855, extended to a longer period, but this seems to
> involve two people who are otherwise regular posters in productive
> threads here and one of them in other groups I've been in for longer.

Hi Nuno,

Carlos is trolling.
The facts prove it.

It's really simple, and we've dealt with it on the Apple newsgroups forever
since they own purely religious belief systems, which can't be defended.

Notice two very important facts about the conversation with Carlos:
 1. I provided facts (court cases, cites, Android technical documents)
 2. Carlos provided nothing (not a single fact, not a single cite, nothing)

Yet, Carlos clearly denied every single fact that I had provided.
He didn't give me a chance to discuss his counter argument, as he had none.

Carlos simply claimed every known fact presented about contacts, is wrong.
I won't let that religious belief system stand in this technical newsgroup.

There's the entire issue, in a nutshell.
-- 
Of a million things people should know about privacy, most know 3.

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#155515 — Re: [OT] "trolling"

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-09-02 20:25 +0200
SubjectRe: [OT] "trolling"
Message-ID<m96mmmxak4.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#155503
On 2026-09-02 17:10, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Nuno Silva wrote:
>> At this point I feel that
>>
>> 1) More detail or context would be necessary to explain why Carlos has
>>     responded like that (seemed to be about past conversations), and
>>
>> 2) More detail would also be needed to understand why are you already
>>     designating this "trolling".
>>
>> Please see this less of a request for comment and more as an assessment
>> of somebody who is puzzled by how the conversation came to this so
>> quickly. It *is* true I've not been subscribing to this group for long,
>> though... ideally I'd just go with the
>>
>>      "read [...] for one to two months before you post anything"
>>
>> prescribed in RFC 1855, extended to a longer period, but this seems to
>> involve two people who are otherwise regular posters in productive
>> threads here and one of them in other groups I've been in for longer.
> 
> Hi Nuno,
> 
> Carlos is trolling.
> The facts prove it.

Shall we ask the group again who is trolling?

We had a vote here in thread «Vote: Is Arlen, aka Maria Sophia, a 
troll?», and those that replied said that yes, you are a troll, whereas 
those you call "trolls" are not.

   Subject: Vote: Is Arlen, aka Maria Sophia, a troll?
   Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2026 22:41:35 +0100
   From: Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid>
   Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
   Message-ID: <mvhh8fFgkgsU6@mid.individual.net>

...

Ignoring the rest.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155545 — Re: [OT] "trolling"

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-09-02 22:28 +0200
SubjectRe: [OT] "trolling"
Message-ID<117a0u9$3vn$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#155515
Carlos E.R. wrote:
> We had a vote here in thread

And only the trolls responded.

It was telling.

Very telling.

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#155550 — Re: [OT] "trolling"

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-09-02 22:33 +0200
SubjectRe: [OT] "trolling"
Message-ID<0pdmmmxtos.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#155545
On 2026-09-02 22:28, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> We had a vote here in thread
> 
> And only the trolls responded.
> 
> It was telling.
> 
> Very telling.

Sure. Everybody that doesn't love you is a troll.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155565 — Re: [OT] "trolling"

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-09-03 02:41 +0530
SubjectRe: [OT] "trolling"
Message-ID<117a3es$jt2$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#155550
Carlos E.R. wrote:
> Everybody that doesn't love you is a troll.

You are the one who disputed the facts that both Andy & I had posted.

When I asked you to supply a single fact in your own defense, you provided
nothing but dozens and maybe even scores of these childish trolls, Carlos.

Please stop trolling this newsgroup.
Just stop it.

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#155571 — Re: [OT] "trolling"

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-09-02 23:25 +0200
SubjectRe: [OT] "trolling"
Message-ID<sqgmmmx7c5.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#155565
On 2026-09-02 23:11, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> Everybody that doesn't love you is a troll.
> 
> You are the one who disputed the facts that both Andy & I had posted.

And you replied with insults.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155576 — Re: [OT] "trolling"

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-09-03 11:35 +0845
SubjectRe: [OT] "trolling"
Message-ID<117ana6$216s$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#155571
Carlos E.R. wrote:
> And you replied

Q: Can you tell us for sure exactly which apps are accessing your contacts? 
A: (yes, or no)

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#155823 — Re: [OT] "trolling"

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2026-09-09 20:07 +0000
SubjectRe: [OT] "trolling"
Message-ID<117seac$1enbq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#155503
mo Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
> Nuno Silva wrote:
>> At this point I feel that
>> 
>> 1) More detail or context would be necessary to explain why Carlos has
>> responded like that (seemed to be about past conversations), and
>> 
>> 2) More detail would also be needed to understand why are you already
>> designating this "trolling".
>> 
>> Please see this less of a request for comment and more as an assessment
>> of somebody who is puzzled by how the conversation came to this so
>> quickly. It *is* true I've not been subscribing to this group for long,
>> though... ideally I'd just go with the
>> 
>> "read [...] for one to two months before you post anything"
>> 
>> prescribed in RFC 1855, extended to a longer period, but this seems to
>> involve two people who are otherwise regular posters in productive
>> threads here and one of them in other groups I've been in for longer.
> 
> Hi Nuno,
> 
> Carlos is trolling.
> The facts prove it.
> 
> It's really simple, and we've dealt with it on the Apple newsgroups forever
> since they own purely religious belief systems, which can't be defended.

That cannot be true. Carlos doesn't own Apple kit AFAIK and is not a
regular on any Apple ngs. He occasional comments on cross-posted threads. 

I suspect Arlen/Maria/Donald/whatever is confusing Carlos for me. I do
regularly post on Apple ngs and I do challenge Arlen often for his
opinions-dressed-as-facts plus he has in the past called me Carlos. He
often refers to me as a troll simply because he doesn't like his "facts"
being held to account. But then I'm not unique he regularly calls people
trolls for no reason whatsoever. 

Arlen holds grudges which spill over across threads and ngs. Which is funny
when he mistakes who he's holding a grudge against and why. 

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#155829 — Re: [OT] "trolling"

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-09-10 09:27 +0200
SubjectRe: [OT] "trolling"
Message-ID<1o2anmxscs.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#155823
On 2026-09-09 22:07, Chris wrote:
> mo Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
>> Nuno Silva wrote:
>>> At this point I feel that
>>>
>>> 1) More detail or context would be necessary to explain why Carlos has
>>> responded like that (seemed to be about past conversations), and
>>>
>>> 2) More detail would also be needed to understand why are you already
>>> designating this "trolling".
>>>
>>> Please see this less of a request for comment and more as an assessment
>>> of somebody who is puzzled by how the conversation came to this so
>>> quickly. It *is* true I've not been subscribing to this group for long,
>>> though... ideally I'd just go with the
>>>
>>> "read [...] for one to two months before you post anything"
>>>
>>> prescribed in RFC 1855, extended to a longer period, but this seems to
>>> involve two people who are otherwise regular posters in productive
>>> threads here and one of them in other groups I've been in for longer.
>>
>> Hi Nuno,
>>
>> Carlos is trolling.
>> The facts prove it.
>>
>> It's really simple, and we've dealt with it on the Apple newsgroups forever
>> since they own purely religious belief systems, which can't be defended.
> 
> That cannot be true. Carlos doesn't own Apple kit AFAIK and is not a
> regular on any Apple ngs. He occasional comments on cross-posted threads.

That's correct.

> 
> I suspect Arlen/Maria/Donald/whatever is confusing Carlos for me. I do
> regularly post on Apple ngs and I do challenge Arlen often for his
> opinions-dressed-as-facts plus he has in the past called me Carlos. He
> often refers to me as a troll simply because he doesn't like his "facts"
> being held to account. But then I'm not unique he regularly calls people
> trolls for no reason whatsoever.
> 
> Arlen holds grudges which spill over across threads and ngs. Which is funny
> when he mistakes who he's holding a grudge against and why.

Indeed.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155514 — Re: [OT] "trolling"

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-09-02 20:24 +0200
SubjectRe: [OT] "trolling"
Message-ID<j76mmmxak4.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#155500
On 2026-09-02 12:18, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2026-09-01, Maria Sophia wrote:
> 
>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> Given most people are incredibly rude when it comes to contacts privacy,
>>>> I looked up more about how Signal can*save* contacts, which is handy.
>>>
>>> No, we are not. We debunked your idea many times.
>>
>> Carlos,
>>
>> I do not know how to respond to you when you act like a mindless troll who
>> repeatedly claims he's "debunked" the facts, when you simply have not.
>>
>> I've said this statement below many times on iOS newsgroups about other,
>> similar iOS trolls, who simply can't stand (nor ever understand) the facts.
>>
>>   "Just you claiming every fact you're blissfully ignorant of is wrong
>>    does not mean you've debunked facts merely by repeating your religious
>>    belief system that all facts you're unaware of or you refuse to
>>    understand, are wrong".
>>
>> The fact remains that both Andy and I provided facts.
>> I even provided settled court cases, which are additional facts.
>>
>> You provided..... nothing.
>>
>> Please, if you're going to troll us by disputing known facts, at least
>> provide a valid counter factual that backs up your religious position.
>>
>> Otherwise, you're just trolling...
> 
> At this point I feel that
> 
> 1) More detail or context would be necessary to explain why Carlos has
>     responded like that (seemed to be about past conversations), and
> 
> 2) More detail would also be needed to understand why are you already
>     designating this "trolling".
> 
> Please see this less of a request for comment and more as an assessment
> of somebody who is puzzled by how the conversation came to this so
> quickly. It *is* true I've not been subscribing to this group for long,
> though... ideally I'd just go with the
> 
>      "read [...] for one to two months before you post anything"
> 
> prescribed in RFC 1855, extended to a longer period, but this seems to
> involve two people who are otherwise regular posters in productive
> threads here and one of them in other groups I've been in for longer.
> 

Arlen (aka Maria (he is a name shifter)) has a trait of calling troll or 
fool anybody that contradicts him and doesn't accept his "facts" as facts.

He says «Given most people are incredibly rude when it comes to contacts 
privacy» and I do not accept that phrase to go by unchallenged, because 
he is calling me and millions of Android users "rude".

He thinks that merely by using the default Android Contact app, we are 
giving Google the names and phones of everybody, and thus, we are 
responsible of breaking those other people privacy.

We have many times told Arlen that is false, specially for those of us 
living in Europe, with our data protection laws.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#155521 — Re: [OT] "trolling"

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2026-09-02 18:56 +0000
SubjectRe: [OT] "trolling"
Message-ID<117a2hc.gr4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#155514
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2026-09-02 12:18, Nuno Silva wrote:
[...]

> > 							 but this seems to
> > involve two people who are otherwise regular posters in productive
> > threads here and one of them in other groups I've been in for longer.
> > 
> 
> Arlen (aka Maria (he is a name shifter)) has a trait of calling troll or 
> fool anybody that contradicts him and doesn't accept his "facts" as facts.

  One doesn't even have to contradict him or refute his facts. Just
talking back at him is enough.

  Last week, I was the troll and got 'compliments' like

"You're a despicable sadistic wholly unprepossessing ignorant human being."

  Anyway, I think soon enough Nuno will be able to tell who is who/what.

> He says «Given most people are incredibly rude when it comes to contacts 
> privacy» and I do not accept that phrase to go by unchallenged, because 
> he is calling me and millions of Android users "rude".

  But it *is* quite humorous to see him talking about *other* people
being rude, but I digress.

> He thinks that merely by using the default Android Contact app, we are 
> giving Google the names and phones of everybody, and thus, we are 
> responsible of breaking those other people privacy.
> 
> We have many times told Arlen that is false, specially for those of us 
> living in Europe, with our data protection laws.

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