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texst to a landline

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First post2025-01-03 08:21 -0500
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  texst to a landline micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-01-03 08:21 -0500
    Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-03 13:38 +0000
      Re: texst to a landline micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-01-03 09:31 -0500
        Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 18:23 +0000
          Re: texst to a landline micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-02 18:24 -0400
            Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-03 09:49 +0000
        Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-03 15:48 -0500
          Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-03 20:52 +0000
            Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-03 22:24 +0100
              Re: texst to a landline Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-01-04 10:21 +0000
              Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 12:55 +0000
                Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:06 +0100
                Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-04 17:33 +0100
                  Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 00:48 +0000
                    Re: texst to a landline Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-05 22:56 +0000
                Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 19:41 +0000
                  Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 20:01 +0000
                    Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:43 +0000
                  Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 22:56 +0100
                    Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 11:00 +0000
            Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-03 20:06 -0500
              Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 02:47 +0100
              Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 09:42 +0000
                Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 08:20 -0500
                  Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 13:39 +0000
                  Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:12 +0100
                    Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 11:24 -0500
                  Re: texst to a landline Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-04 15:22 +0000
                    Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 11:32 -0500
                      Re: texst to a landline Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-05 17:08 +0000
                        Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 18:54 +0000
                          Re: texst to a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 12:25 -0800
                            Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-05 15:32 -0500
                              Re: texst to a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 13:42 -0800
                                Re: texst to a landline Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-05 22:35 +0000
          Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-03 22:17 +0100
          Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-03 22:37 +0100
            Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 09:31 +0000
              Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-04 12:19 +0100
                Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 12:46 +0000
          Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 22:34 +0000
            Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-03 20:07 -0500
              Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 02:48 +0100
                Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-04 09:08 +0100
                Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 08:37 -0500
                  Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-04 17:36 +0100
              Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-04 09:07 +0100
                Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 12:47 +0100
                  Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 08:52 -0500
                    Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:19 +0000
                      Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 00:39 +0000
                        Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-05 03:50 +0100
                        Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 13:00 +0000
              Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 08:35 +0000
                Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 08:25 -0500
                  Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 14:01 +0000
                    Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 11:38 -0500
                      Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 23:02 +0100
                    Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-04 17:42 +0100
                      Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 17:40 +0000
                        Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-05 10:28 +0100
                      Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:24 +0000
                  Re: texst to a landline AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-01-04 09:40 -0700
                  Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 18:32 +0000
                    Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 15:47 -0500
                      Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 00:19 +0000
                      Re: texst to a landline Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-01-05 09:12 +0000
                      Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-05 10:31 +0100
            Re: texst to a landline Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-01-04 10:25 +0000
              Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 00:14 +0000
                Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-05 03:54 +0100
                  Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 23:34 +0000
                    Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-06 08:23 +0000
                      Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-06 14:35 +0100
                        Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-06 13:43 +0000
                          Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-06 15:10 +0100
                          Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-06 16:22 +0000
                  Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-06 10:55 -0500
            Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:11 +0000
      Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 19:02 +0000
        Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-03 19:17 +0000
    Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-03 15:26 +0100
      Re: texst to a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 12:05 -0800
    Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-03 15:38 -0500
      Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-03 22:41 +0100
        Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 22:37 +0000
          Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-04 09:10 +0100
        Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-03 20:11 -0500
          Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 02:51 +0100

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#146147

FromNewyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Date2025-01-03 20:06 -0500
Message-ID<vla1h3$5a06$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146126
On 1/3/2025 3:52 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Newyana2 wrote:
> 
>> micky wrote:
>>
>>> Trying to find how to allow texts to a Verizion FIOS line has been
>>> suprisingly unsuccessful.
>>
>> There's no such thing. Think it through. Where could the text display
>> even if it did come through? 
> 
> Aren't DECT phone common over there?  Many of them have SMS capability 
> when on a PSTN/POTS line.
> 

   I don't know what DECT or POTS mean. We have landlines
that can be direct phone wires or VOIP. Either way, the
phones are the same. There's room for maybe 12 letter in
the Caller ID display and no facility to receive a text.
They can receive an audio message, but then, who's going
to go to the trouble to sned an audio message when most of
the people they know have texting?

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#146153

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-01-04 02:47 +0100
Message-ID<lhgm4lxss3.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#146147
On 2025-01-04 02:06, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 1/3/2025 3:52 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Newyana2 wrote:
>>
>>> micky wrote:
>>>
>>>> Trying to find how to allow texts to a Verizion FIOS line has been
>>>> suprisingly unsuccessful.
>>>
>>> There's no such thing. Think it through. Where could the text display
>>> even if it did come through? 
>>
>> Aren't DECT phone common over there?  Many of them have SMS capability 
>> when on a PSTN/POTS line.
>>
> 
>    I don't know what DECT or POTS mean. 

Digital Enhanced Cordless Telecommunications (DECT) is a cordless 
telephony standard maintained by ETSI. It originated in Europe, where it 
is the common standard, replacing earlier standards, such as CT1 and 
CT2. Since the DECT-2020 standard onwards, it also includes IoT 
communication.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DECT


Plain Old Telephone Service (POTS), or Plain Ordinary Telephone 
System[1], is a retronym for voice-grade telephone service that employs 
analog signal transmission over copper loops. The term POTS originally 
stood for Post Office Telephone Service, as early telephone lines in 
many regions were operated directly by local Post Offices. For instance, 
in New Zealand, the telephone system remained under Post Office control 
until the 1980s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_old_telephone_service


The public switched telephone network (PSTN) is the aggregate of the 
world's telephone networks that are operated by national, regional, or 
local telephony operators. It provides infrastructure and services for 
public telephony. The PSTN consists of telephone lines, fiber-optic 
cables, microwave transmission links, cellular networks, communications 
satellites, and undersea telephone cables interconnected by switching 
centers, such as central offices, network tandems, and international 
gateways, which allow telephone users to communicate with each other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_switched_telephone_network

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#146167

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2025-01-04 09:42 +0000
Message-ID<ltse40Fi6rfU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#146147
Newyana2 wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Aren't DECT phone common over there?  Many of them have SMS capability 
>> when on a PSTN/POTS line.
> 
>    I don't know what DECT 

I suspected they hadn't really caught-on over there, they're digital 
cordless (mostly home) phones, so they tend to have a lot of mobile-like 
features, such as a graphical display.  Though mostly people associate 
texting only with mobiles.

> or POTS mean.

I specifically said POTS because I believed you used that term (plain 
old telephone service) rather than PSTN, oh well.

> We have landlines
> that can be direct phone wires or VOIP. Either way, the
> phones are the same. 

Same here.

> There's room for maybe 12 letter in
> the Caller ID display and no facility to receive a text.
> They can receive an audio message, but then, who's going
> to go to the trouble to sned an audio message when most of
> the people they know have texting?

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#146185

FromNewyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Date2025-01-04 08:20 -0500
Message-ID<vlbci5$fo4o$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146167
On 1/4/2025 4:42 AM, Andy Burns wrote:

>>    I don't know what DECT 
> 
> I suspected they hadn't really caught-on over there, they're digital 
> cordless (mostly home) phones, so they tend to have a lot of mobile-like 
> features, such as a graphical display.  Though mostly people associate 
> texting only with mobiles.
> 

   Yes, that's unfamiliar. I didn't know there was such a thing.
In Carlos's description he says it serves the IoT. Here that's only
possible via ethernet or wifi. So I guess I'm glad my dryer can't
jump online through my phone line.

   Though I'm still not completely clear about this. My landline
has cordless extensions and a limited graphical display. It has
caller ID and I can choose to program in numbers to be blocked.
However, it does not have wireless connection to any network.
It's still a landline -- what you apparently call POTS. The only
change is updated hardware.

   DECT sounds like it's truly wireless, connecting via towers
like cellphones? Or via wifi as wireless VOIP? Or maybe via
telephone pole receivers that you can see out the windy? :)

>> or POTS mean.
> 
> I specifically said POTS because I believed you used that term (plain 
> old telephone service) rather than PSTN, oh well.
> 

    Probably true, but this sounds like engineer or historian talk.
We used to talk about telephones. Now we talk about landlines
or cellular. No one has ever needed technical acronyms. But I
was unaware that there were fundamentally different systems
operating elsewhere.

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#146188

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2025-01-04 13:39 +0000
Message-ID<ltss04FklgtU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#146185
Newyana2 wrote:

> In Carlos's description he says it serves the IoT. Here that's only
> possible via ethernet or wifi. So I guess I'm glad my dryer can't
> jump online through my phone line.

I think the IoT aspect is new, mine doesn't have it, the DECT 
base-station does have bluetooth to link to a mobile phone (which was 
rubbish quality last time I tried).

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#146192

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-01-04 15:12 +0100
Message-ID<27sn4lxduj.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#146185
On 2025-01-04 14:20, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 1/4/2025 4:42 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> 
>>>    I don't know what DECT 
>>
>> I suspected they hadn't really caught-on over there, they're digital 
>> cordless (mostly home) phones, so they tend to have a lot of mobile- 
>> like features, such as a graphical display.  Though mostly people 
>> associate texting only with mobiles.
>>
> 
>    Yes, that's unfamiliar. I didn't know there was such a thing.
> In Carlos's description he says it serves the IoT. Here that's only
> possible via ethernet or wifi. So I guess I'm glad my dryer can't
> jump online through my phone line.
> 
>    Though I'm still not completely clear about this. My landline
> has cordless extensions and a limited graphical display. It has
> caller ID and I can choose to program in numbers to be blocked.
> However, it does not have wireless connection to any network.
> It's still a landline -- what you apparently call POTS. The only
> change is updated hardware.
> 
>    DECT sounds like it's truly wireless, connecting via towers
> like cellphones? Or via wifi as wireless VOIP? Or maybe via
> telephone pole receivers that you can see out the windy? :)

No. DECT phones connect by radio to a base at your home, which is 
connected to the copper pair.

You can see a photo of the base station on the wikipedia article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DECT


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#146199

FromNewyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Date2025-01-04 11:24 -0500
Message-ID<vlbna8$hivf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146192
On 1/4/2025 9:12 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> No. DECT phones connect by radio to a base at your home, which is 
> connected to the copper pair.
> 
> You can see a photo of the base station on the wikipedia article.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DECT
> 
     Ah. We have almost that. Multiple phones talk to each other.
But one must be wired directly.

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#146197

FromTheo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Date2025-01-04 15:22 +0000
Message-ID<zSw*psL3z@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>
In reply to#146185
Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> On 1/4/2025 4:42 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> 
> >>    I don't know what DECT 
> > 
> > I suspected they hadn't really caught-on over there, they're digital 
> > cordless (mostly home) phones, so they tend to have a lot of mobile-like 
> > features, such as a graphical display.  Though mostly people associate 
> > texting only with mobiles.
> > 
> 
>    Yes, that's unfamiliar. I didn't know there was such a thing.
> In Carlos's description he says it serves the IoT. Here that's only
> possible via ethernet or wifi. So I guess I'm glad my dryer can't
> jump online through my phone line.
> 
>    Though I'm still not completely clear about this. My landline
> has cordless extensions and a limited graphical display. It has
> caller ID and I can choose to program in numbers to be blocked.
> However, it does not have wireless connection to any network.
> It's still a landline -- what you apparently call POTS. The only
> change is updated hardware.

I think you might be using DECT without realising it.  eg from a search on
Amazon.com for 'cordless phone', #4 is an AT&T branded DECT base and handset:

https://www.amazon.com/AT-BL102-2-2-Handset-Answering-Unsurpassed/dp/B086QB7WZ1

and similar are at #6, #9, #11, #12.  Most of the others are Panasonic or
V-Tech, many of which have DECT in the title too.

What model of cordless landline phone do you have?

Theo

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#146200

FromNewyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Date2025-01-04 11:32 -0500
Message-ID<vlbnqa$hmk2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146197
On 1/4/2025 10:22 AM, Theo wrote:

> I think you might be using DECT without realising it.  eg from a search on
> Amazon.com for 'cordless phone', #4 is an AT&T branded DECT base and handset:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/AT-BL102-2-2-Handset-Answering-Unsurpassed/dp/B086QB7WZ1
> 
> and similar are at #6, #9, #11, #12.  Most of the others are Panasonic or
> V-Tech, many of which have DECT in the title too.
> 
> What model of cordless landline phone do you have?
> 

    Panasonic. But note that the phone in the picture has an
antenna. Mine is wired directly to the phone line, which
goes to the VOIP device but used to go to a modem and
before that wen't to public telephone lines. The extensions
are wireless, but not the base station/answering machine.

    I've never seen a fully wireless landline. But maybe it's not
really different. Using radio waves to get to the phone line is
not fundamentally changing the technology. The phone in the
picture has the same basic display and functions. The only
difference seems to be that it doesn't need to be direct-wired.

      If DECT eventually goes to the landline
then it would seem that the lack of landline texting in the
US may be more due to simple lack of support rather than
technical issues. Not that I mind. I have no interest in
receiving 100 characters of misspelled trivia, scrolling
across my tiny phone screen like news headlines. As it
stands, I'm glad that people can't text me.

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#146271

FromTheo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Date2025-01-05 17:08 +0000
Message-ID<BSw*M8Q3z@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>
In reply to#146200
Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> On 1/4/2025 10:22 AM, Theo wrote:
> 
> > I think you might be using DECT without realising it.  eg from a search on
> > Amazon.com for 'cordless phone', #4 is an AT&T branded DECT base and handset:
> > 
> > https://www.amazon.com/AT-BL102-2-2-Handset-Answering-Unsurpassed/dp/B086QB7WZ1
> > 
> > and similar are at #6, #9, #11, #12.  Most of the others are Panasonic or
> > V-Tech, many of which have DECT in the title too.
> > 
> > What model of cordless landline phone do you have?
> > 
> 
>     Panasonic. But note that the phone in the picture has an
> antenna. Mine is wired directly to the phone line, which
> goes to the VOIP device but used to go to a modem and
> before that wen't to public telephone lines. The extensions
> are wireless, but not the base station/answering machine.
> 
>     I've never seen a fully wireless landline. But maybe it's not
> really different. Using radio waves to get to the phone line is
> not fundamentally changing the technology. The phone in the
> picture has the same basic display and functions. The only
> difference seems to be that it doesn't need to be direct-wired.
>
DECT handsets are cordless, as the name suggests.  They talk via radio to
the base station, hence the antenna.  The base is corded, either to the
classic copper phone line or to a VOIP converter box (maybe in the ISP's
router).

It's also possible to get bases which do VOIP directly, ie plug into an
ethernet network - they're doing DECT between the handset and the base and
converting it directly to VOIP rather than going via a copper phone line. 
Some routers also include this DECT-VOIP gateway, ie you pair your DECT
handset with the router and then the outbound phone call is all VOIP.

DECT range can be up to 400m from a single base, so is useful for people
with a large property without needing to install boosters everywhere.

>       If DECT eventually goes to the landline
> then it would seem that the lack of landline texting in the
> US may be more due to simple lack of support rather than
> technical issues. Not that I mind. I have no interest in
> receiving 100 characters of misspelled trivia, scrolling
> across my tiny phone screen like news headlines. As it
> stands, I'm glad that people can't text me.

My Gigaset handset with VOIP base will actually scroll the news headlines
and weather on its tiny screen, fetched from some Gigaset server.  It's not
the most useful feature :-)

Landline SMS can be useful when you don't have mobile signal locally but
need to receive verification SMS from various companies.  Although the
takeup of wifi calling on mobiles has made that less relevant.

Theo

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#146281

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-01-05 18:54 +0000
Message-ID<vleo1u.qf0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#146271
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
[...]

> DECT handsets are cordless, as the name suggests.  They talk via radio to
> the base station, hence the antenna.  The base is corded, either to the
> classic copper phone line or to a VOIP converter box (maybe in the ISP's
> router).

  Just a minor, but important, comment: (Some/most/all?) DECT handsets
and base stations use *internal* antennas. So if you don't see an
antenna, that doesn't mean it can't be a DECT device, but also not that
it is a DECT device, because it *could* - but is not likely to - use
other cordless technology.

[...]

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#146287

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-05 12:25 -0800
Message-ID<vleps0$16nqr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146281
I've never been able to receive text messages on my Ooma VOIP number, 
but I thought it might be interesting to try to send one.  My question: 
How does one do that?  Email to the phone number?  Nope.  "Messages" 
tried but failed.

Anything?


-- 
Cheers, Bev
    "Not everyone can be above average so why
     shouldn't we be the ones to suck?"
              --Anonymous School Board Member

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#146288

FromNewyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Date2025-01-05 15:32 -0500
Message-ID<vleq87$16qea$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146287
On 1/5/2025 3:25 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> I've never been able to receive text messages on my Ooma VOIP number, 
> but I thought it might be interesting to try to send one.  My question: 
> How does one do that?  Email to the phone number?  Nope.  "Messages" 
> tried but failed.
> 
> Anything?
> 
> 

You can. These should be up to date:

AT&T: number@txt.att.net
Qwest: number@qwestmp.com
T-Mobile: number@tmomail.net
Verizon: number@vtext.com
Sprint: number@messaging.sprintpcs.com or number@pm.sprint.com
Virgin Mobile: number@vmobl.com
Nextel: number@messaging.nextel.com
Alltel: number@message.alltel.com
Metro PCS: number@mymetropcs.com
Powertel: number@ptel.com
Boost Mobile: number@myboostmobile.com
Suncom: number@tms.suncom.com
Tracfone: number@mmst5.tracfone.com
U.S. Cellular: number@email.uscc.net

   You just send an email to their phone number. The trick is
that you need to know their provider. The other catch is that
they'll have to send an email to respond to you. Confusing.
Probably most people wouldn't know how to handle it.

  So it's like 1234567890@vtext.com Hopefully the recipient
knows it's a joke and knows that you can't receive a text
in return. I don't know how they see the sender identified.

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#146299

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-05 13:42 -0800
Message-ID<vleubl$17im9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146288
On 1/5/25 12:32 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 1/5/2025 3:25 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> I've never been able to receive text messages on my Ooma VOIP number, 
>> but I thought it might be interesting to try to send one.  My question: 
>> How does one do that?  Email to the phone number?  Nope.  "Messages" 
>> tried but failed.
>> 
>> Anything?

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I wanted to try sending a text message from my 
cell TO my Ooma VOIP number.  I'll try emailing ###@ooma.com and see 
what happens.


> You can. These should be up to date:

Thanks, this is useful information.

> AT&T: number@txt.att.net
> Qwest: number@qwestmp.com
> T-Mobile: number@tmomail.net
> Verizon: number@vtext.com
> Sprint: number@messaging.sprintpcs.com or number@pm.sprint.com
> Virgin Mobile: number@vmobl.com
> Nextel: number@messaging.nextel.com
> Alltel: number@message.alltel.com
> Metro PCS: number@mymetropcs.com
> Powertel: number@ptel.com
> Boost Mobile: number@myboostmobile.com
> Suncom: number@tms.suncom.com
> Tracfone: number@mmst5.tracfone.com
> U.S. Cellular: number@email.uscc.net
> 
>     You just send an email to their phone number. The trick is
> that you need to know their provider. The other catch is that
> they'll have to send an email to respond to you. Confusing.
> Probably most people wouldn't know how to handle it.
> 
>    So it's like 1234567890@vtext.com Hopefully the recipient
> knows it's a joke and knows that you can't receive a text
> in return. I don't know how they see the sender identified.

I've emailed to my grandspawn ###@att.net with my computer. It shows 
'sent from' my email address, and she's replied to me.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    666øF -- the oven temperature for roast beast.

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#146301

FromTheo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Date2025-01-05 22:35 +0000
Message-ID<BSw*tjS3z@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>
In reply to#146299
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/5/25 12:32 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
> > On 1/5/2025 3:25 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> >> I've never been able to receive text messages on my Ooma VOIP number, 
> >> but I thought it might be interesting to try to send one.  My question: 
> >> How does one do that?  Email to the phone number?  Nope.  "Messages" 
> >> tried but failed.
> >> 
> >> Anything?
> 
> Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I wanted to try sending a text message from my 
> cell TO my Ooma VOIP number.  I'll try emailing ###@ooma.com and see 
> what happens.

Can't you just use your cell to SMS your Ooma number +1 (xxx) xxx-xxxx like
any other cellphone number?

> > You can. These should be up to date:
> 
> Thanks, this is useful information.

To send from your Ooma number, it's possible they also provide a web page or
mobile app that allows sending SMS with their system.  Although maybe you
need to be on their business package, I don't know.

Theo

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#146129

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2025-01-03 22:17 +0100
Message-ID<vl9k61$25ste$1@solani.org>
In reply to#146125
On 03.01.25 21:48, Newyana2 wrote:
> There's no such thing. Think it through. Where could the text display
> even if it did come through?

I would suggest to check the screen.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#146133

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-01-03 22:37 +0100
Message-ID<8u1m4lxlon.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#146125
On 2025-01-03 21:48, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 1/3/2025 9:31 AM, micky wrote:
> 
>> Trying to find how to allow texts to a Verizion FIOS line has been
>> suprisingly unsuccessful.
>>
> 
>   There's no such thing. Think it through. Where could the text display
> even if it did come through? If the sender converts it to voice then
> that's a recorded audio message, not a text. You can't convert it
> to voice on your end because you can't receive it in the first place.

Yes, there is such a thing.

The telephone exchange converts the text to machine voice, and then 
phones you.

This service depends on the company and the country, and possibly on 
contracting the service. It is not universal.

    I tried it long ago here (Spain) and quickly disabled it.
    I think messages were delivered only at a more or less
    fixed hour.


Then, if the landline is actually a true VoIp intelligent phone, it may 
also receive texts. There is a display. I don't know if this is done, 
but I think it is feasible.

A true VoIp phone is connected to an ethernet cable or to a WiFi, not to 
a copper pair. It is a small computer, not a traditional landline dumb 
phone.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#146166

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2025-01-04 09:31 +0000
Message-ID<ltsdg8Fi6rfU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#146133
Carlos E.R. wrote:

> The telephone exchange converts the text to machine voice, and then 
> phones you.
> 
> This service depends on the company and the country, and possibly on 
> contracting the service. It is not universal.
> 
>     I tried it long ago here (Spain) and quickly disabled it.
>     I think messages were delivered only at a more or less
>     fixed hour.

Here, it will phone you any time of day with the voice messages, there 
is an IVR number you can call to set a curfew for voice delivery, or 
just turn it off altogether.

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#146174

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2025-01-04 12:19 +0100
Message-ID<vlb5gj$26kpr$1@solani.org>
In reply to#146166
On 04.01.25 10:31, Andy Burns wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> The telephone exchange converts the text to machine voice, and then 
>> phones you.
>>
>> This service depends on the company and the country, and possibly on 
>> contracting the service. It is not universal.
>>
>>     I tried it long ago here (Spain) and quickly disabled it.
>>     I think messages were delivered only at a more or less
>>     fixed hour.
> 
> Here, it will phone you any time of day with the voice messages, there 
> is an IVR number you can call to set a curfew for voice delivery, or 
> just turn it off altogether.

In the IP world such things are done in the personal webaccount.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#146181

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2025-01-04 12:46 +0000
Message-ID<ltsoteFk8ulU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#146174
Jörg Lorenz wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Here, it will phone you any time of day with the voice messages, there
>> is an IVR number you can call to set a curfew for voice delivery, or
>> just turn it off altogether.
> 
> In the IP world such things are done in the personal webaccount.
Here, the SMS doesn't seem to make it as far as my VoIP provider, it 
seems to get intercepted by BT/Openreach and delivered by voice to my 
VoIP provider.  I haven't had any online account with BT for about 2 
decades.

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