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  Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-12 04:31 +0000
    Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-12 06:26 +0100
      Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-12 06:12 +0000
        Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-12 06:19 +0000
          Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 08:35 +0000
            Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-13 18:06 +0000
              Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 20:25 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-13 23:02 +0000
                  Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 22:03 +0000
                    Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-14 23:40 +0000
                      Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 09:05 +0000
                        Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-15 13:25 +0000
                          Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 16:12 +0000
                            Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-16 17:34 +0000
                              Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 21:36 +0000
                                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-17 04:16 +0000
                                  Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-17 10:54 +0000
              Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-15 11:56 +0200
            Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-13 14:27 -0400
              Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 20:25 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-13 23:20 +0000
      Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-06-12 06:50 +0000
        Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-06-12 18:37 +0200
          Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-12 17:47 +0100
            Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-06-12 10:34 -0700
              Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-12 17:32 -0400
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-06-12 14:46 -0700
                  Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-12 18:06 -0400
                    Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-06-12 15:17 -0700
            Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Harry S Robins <stanleyrobins@nothere.uk> - 2024-06-12 14:47 -0500
              Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-06-13 09:24 +1200
              Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-12 17:34 -0400
              Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 21:51 +0000
            Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2024-06-13 04:09 +0100
              Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-13 14:21 -0400
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 20:40 +0000
                  Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-13 17:32 -0400
          Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-12 17:31 -0400
            Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 21:51 +0000
              Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-12 18:09 -0400
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 22:03 +0000
                  Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-15 18:04 -0400
            Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-06-13 13:02 +1200
          Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-06-13 06:10 +0000
    Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-13 17:54 +0000
      Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 18:52 +0000
        Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-13 19:32 +0000

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#141971 — Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages

> While Android has had scheduled messages for years, Apple finally 
> added the ability for iOS to schedule messages in iOS 18.

Since Apple religious zealots have shown to understand nothing of Apple
products, allow me to be the first to inform you that yet again, Apple has
shown to be incapable of properly implementing this scheduled messaging.

Turns out, *Apple's implementation doesn't actually work!*
 <https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/ios-18-ipados-18-iphone-apple-features-fall-2024-70d28f09>

Fancy that. 
a. Apple is a decade behind Android in scheduled messaging functionality...
b. And then, when you look at what it does... 
c. It doesn't even work!

Yet again, Apple proves to be incapable of writing even simple programs.
  "This only works with iMessage, so only with fellow Apple users."

Note that Android scheduled messages works for everyone; not just Android
users or not just Apple user, showing Apple coders are high school kids.

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#141973

Andrew wrote:

> Note that Android scheduled messages works for everyone;

Is it a useful feature?  I haven't used it, if I received a "happy 
birthday" text at 00:00:01 on my birthday it would hardly feel personal ...

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#141975

Andy Burns wrote on Wed, 12 Jun 2024 06:26:18 +0100 :

>> Note that Android scheduled messages works for everyone;
> 
> Is it a useful feature?  I haven't used it, if I received a "happy 
> birthday" text at 00:00:01 on my birthday it would hardly feel personal ..

Hi Andy,

Thanks for that question, as every feature serves a purpose for someone, 
but at the same time, that capability may not be useful to many others.

If you have kids and grandkids, it's a very useful feature, for the reasons
that they don't wake up until later in the afternoon and they need to be
reminded to do things - and - this is key - they live off of SMS/MMS text!

Therefore, take a look at what I often use it for in this simple sequence:
 <https://i.postimg.cc/bJZBFqxK/scheduledmessage.jpg>

Bear in mind that I've been scheduling messages for so long that even I was
surprisd that Apple's messaging didn't have this basic feature - until the
next release, and even then, it turns out it only works between iOS users
alone. 

Which again proves the point Apple doesn't work outside the walled garden.

When my own kids were in college (some are still in grad school as we
type), I often use the scheduling to remind them to pay certain bills,
again, because college kids tend to live & breathe by SMS/MMS messaging.

In short, it's a great feature to be able to schedule messages, if you have
reasons to schedule those messages - where they become great reminders.

As you may recall, years ago, I tested every free adfree gsfree gsmfree
SMS/MMS app on Android and settled on the open source PulseSMS messaging
app as the best based on its rich feature set (which is far better than
Apple's messages).   <https://home.pulsesms.app/overview/>

Given the Apple people are on this thread, and given they're always
ignorant of what Android can do, I should note that what PulseSMS does is
far more than the Apple messaging app ever did - including messaging on any
platform - which the Apple people think only exists on their iOS devices.

Unfortunately, the open source code was bought by MapleMedia, but the good
news is I have been using the Klinker last known good version for years,
without any issues or problems (on a variety of Android phones over time).

However, with the advent of RCS, and particularly with Apple finally
figuring out how to implement RCS on their iOS platform, I may need to look
for a non-Google RCS-capable MMS/SMS messaging app in the future, as my
great grandchild's parents send me cute baby videos every day.

Unfortunately, that household is a purely Apple home, which, as you're
quite well aware, don't work outside the walled garden, so we've been using
WhatsApp to allow that Apple household to send videos to the family.
 iOS messaging stinks <https://i.postimg.cc/cLBNKJb7/fuzzy.jpg>
 WA messaging is better <https://i.postimg.cc/QMGrqLb9/clear.jpg>

Hopefully, when Apple figures out how RCS works, things will improve.

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#141980

Andrew wrote on Wed, 12 Jun 2024 06:12:43 -0000 (UTC) :

> If you have kids and grandkids, it's a very useful feature, for the reasons
> that they don't wake up until later in the afternoon and they need to be
> reminded to do things - and - this is key - they live off of SMS/MMS text!

Ooops. Wrong link. Here's the correct link to the example I just provided.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/v86wXwtJ/scheduledmessage.jpg>

Note that this open-source messaging app can not only schedule messages,
but it can text from any device - which is something the Apple people think
only they have - but in reality - theirs only works inside the walled
garden.

In summary, it's great that the primitive iOS messaging can finally
schedule messages (for those who use that feature - as I do often).

However... 

Like most things Apple, it doesn't actually work in the real world.
         (It only works inside the walled garden.)

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#142013

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Andrew wrote on Wed, 12 Jun 2024 06:12:43 -0000 (UTC) :
> 
>> If you have kids and grandkids, it's a very useful feature, for the reasons
>> that they don't wake up until later in the afternoon and they need to be
>> reminded to do things - and - this is key - they live off of SMS/MMS text!

I mean, SMS is explicitly asynchronous - there's no guarantee a text will
be delivered at any time - so the time you send something is meaningless.
Especially with kids. 

> Ooops. Wrong link. Here's the correct link to the example I just provided.
>  <https://i.postimg.cc/v86wXwtJ/scheduledmessage.jpg>

Does it still work if the phone is off/has no signal/in airplane mode?

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#142016

Chris wrote on Thu, 13 Jun 2024 08:35:36 -0000 (UTC) :

> I mean, SMS is explicitly asynchronous - there's no guarantee a text will
> be delivered at any time - so the time you send something is meaningless.
> Especially with kids. 

While technically that's true, how many times have you sent an SMS/MMS
message and had it NOT arrive within seconds of you sending it?

But, in reality, the problem with Apple's scheduled messaging
implementation is far worse than just the inherent delay in SMS/MMS because
it doesn't apparently even *work* outside the walled garden anyway.

At least that's what this cite from the WSJ rather clearly says:
 <https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/ios-18-ipados-18-iphone-apple-features-fall-2024-70d28f09>
  "*This only works with iMessage, so only with fellow Apple users*."

>> Ooops. Wrong link. Here's the correct link to the example I just provided.
>>  <https://i.postimg.cc/v86wXwtJ/scheduledmessage.jpg>
> 
> Does it still work if the phone is off/has no signal/in airplane mode?

Completely outside the topic of "scheduled messages", I hike often in
backcountry that has low cellular service where my experience is that any
queued up SMS messages get sent en masse when my phone enters a cellular
service area.

Back on the topic of scheduled messages though, based on the WSJ article
above saying it doesn't actually work in the real world (surprise!), I
suspect Apple isn't using the SMS/MMS system to send those scheduled
messages (since the walled garden isn't even close to the real world).

Given logging into Apple's walled garden is apparently required for
scheduled messages to work, we can't answer your question until we find out
WHERE the Apple scheduled messages are scheduled and eventually sent from.

  *After logging into Apple's walled garden servers...*
  *Are the scheduled messages kept on and sent from Apple's servers?*

I don't know. 

But I doubt any of the Apple religious zealots will know either, as they
only know what Apple has advertised in glossy marketing for herd animals.

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#142024

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Chris wrote on Thu, 13 Jun 2024 08:35:36 -0000 (UTC) :
> 
>> I mean, SMS is explicitly asynchronous - there's no guarantee a text will
>> be delivered at any time - so the time you send something is meaningless.
>> Especially with kids. 
> 
> While technically that's true, how many times have you sent an SMS/MMS
> message and had it NOT arrive within seconds of you sending it?

I mostly communicate via imessage or whatsapp so SMS is rare. I have had it
fail, but couldn't tell you how often. 

>> Ooops. Wrong link. Here's the correct link to the example I just provided.
>>> <https://i.postimg.cc/v86wXwtJ/scheduledmessage.jpg>
>> 
>> Does it still work if the phone is off/has no signal/in airplane mode?
> 
> Completely outside the topic of "scheduled messages", I hike often in
> backcountry that has low cellular service where my experience is that any
> queued up SMS messages get sent en masse when my phone enters a cellular
> service area.
> 
> Back on the topic of scheduled messages though, based on the WSJ article

You misunderstand. I was asking about *your* method. Does it work when
there's no mobile signal? And if it doesn't, what happens? Do scheduled
messages fail completely or is it sent next time signal is available?

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#142031

Chris wrote on Thu, 13 Jun 2024 20:25:25 -0000 (UTC) :

>> While technically that's true, how many times have you sent an SMS/MMS
>> message and had it NOT arrive within seconds of you sending it?
> 
> I mostly communicate via imessage or whatsapp so SMS is rare. I have had it
> fail, but couldn't tell you how often. 

In my experience, when I send an (unscheduled, i.e., normal) SMS message,
the recipient gets it within seconds of me sending it. 

If I'm not in an area that has coverage at the time I initiated the
sending, then it has been my experience that the recipient automatically
gets it only after I move to an area that has coverage. 

Hence, it appears to be queued up on my phone; but I leave it to the
Android experts to explain better how a failed SMS message is queued up.

>>> Ooops. Wrong link. Here's the correct link to the example I just provided.
>>>> <https://i.postimg.cc/v86wXwtJ/scheduledmessage.jpg>
>>> 
>>> Does it still work if the phone is off/has no signal/in airplane mode?
>> 
>> Completely outside the topic of "scheduled messages", I hike often in
>> backcountry that has low cellular service where my experience is that any
>> queued up SMS messages get sent en masse when my phone enters a cellular
>> service area.
>> 
>> Back on the topic of scheduled messages though, based on the WSJ article
> 
> You misunderstand. I was asking about *your* method. Does it work when
> there's no mobile signal? And if it doesn't, what happens? Do scheduled
> messages fail completely or is it sent next time signal is available?

Thanks for clarifying the question, where I do NOT know what happens using
the age-old Android method of sending scheduled messages if at the time the
message is scheduled to be sent, there is no cellular coverage.

I suspect that the same thing "should" happen that happens when I send an
SMS message when I have no coverage, but I don't know if that is the case.

Bear in mind the EXTREMELY IMPORTANT distinction that sending messages with
iOS typically involves logging into Apple messaging servers, whereas on
Android, you're never required to log into any server to send a message.

Hence, I suspect that the Android method keeps trying as I don't see any
distinction in HOW it's sent between sending a message NOW versus sending
it scheduled for later. But I could be wrong on that.

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#142055

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Chris wrote on Thu, 13 Jun 2024 20:25:25 -0000 (UTC) :
>> 
>> You misunderstand. I was asking about *your* method. Does it work when
>> there's no mobile signal? And if it doesn't, what happens? Do scheduled
>> messages fail completely or is it sent next time signal is available?
> 
> Thanks for clarifying the question, where I do NOT know what happens using
> the age-old Android method of sending scheduled messages if at the time the
> message is scheduled to be sent, there is no cellular coverage.
> 
> I suspect that the same thing "should" happen that happens when I send an
> SMS message when I have no coverage, but I don't know if that is the case.

You could test it? 

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#142059

Chris wrote on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 22:03:08 -0000 (UTC) :

>> I suspect that the same thing "should" happen that happens when I send an
>> SMS message when I have no coverage, but I don't know if that is the case.
> 
> You could test it?

The good news is it works on all platforms, so anyone can test it out.
 <https://home.pulsesms.app/overview/>
 
Windows & macOS PC users included.
 <https://home.pulsesms.app/overview/platform-mac.html>
 <https://home.pulsesms.app/overview/platform-windows.html>

I find it interesting that the Apple owners have no idea that we've been
doing for years what Apple is only now figuring out how to give them it.

Seamless device integration
Send SMS and MMS from any platform, any time. 
Sync is instant and hassle free.

Per-contact customization
Customize color, notifications and more, for all of your conversations.

Beautiful layouts and animations
Pulse SMS doesn't just get the job done. 
It wraps your messages in a powerful, fluid layout.

Pin favorite contacts
Quick access to all your favorites at the top of the conversation list.

Night mode
Your perfect companion to optimizing your nighttime messaging.

Blacklist
Stop annoying spammers.

Delayed sending
To prevent those awkward mistakes in your messages.

Dual SIM support
Have two SIMs? Pulse SMS can manage both for you, no problem.

Backup and Restore
With a Pulse SMS account, your messages are automatically backed up 
and restored to any new devices.

End-to-end encryption
None of your data is stored un-encrypted on our backend. 
Get the full privacy of the latest encryption standards.

Powerful searches
Search conversations and messages, all at once.

Mute and snooze
Prevent distractions while you need to get stuff done.

Smart Replies
Get context-aware reply suggestions, to your conversations.

Web previews
See instant previews of any web articles or YouTube videos 
that get sent to you.

Schedule messages
Make sure your message gets sent out, at the right time.

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#142067

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Chris wrote on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 22:03:08 -0000 (UTC) :
> 
>>> I suspect that the same thing "should" happen that happens when I send an
>>> SMS message when I have no coverage, but I don't know if that is the case.
>> 
>> You could test it?
> 
> The good news is it works on all platforms, so anyone can test it out.
>  <https://home.pulsesms.app/overview/>

So why don't you? You're the one who already uses it and sing its praises.
You could have done it in the time it took write this post. 

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#142077

Chris wrote on Sat, 15 Jun 2024 09:05:21 -0000 (UTC) :

>> The good news is it works on all platforms, so anyone can test it out.
>>  <https://home.pulsesms.app/overview/>
> 
> So why don't you? You're the one who already uses it and sing its praises.
> You could have done it in the time it took write this post.

It worked for me, Chris, which I tried before you even asked, but I don't
want to risk saying it works for everyone since I only tested it once.

I turned on airplane mode.
I scheduled a message to my wife.
I waited an hour and turned airplane mode off.

It sent.

Will it send for everyone?
Hell if I know.

But if I say it does, then you guys will jump all over me, like you always
do, so I kept mum about it and simply said anyone could test it.

Pulse SMS works with Chrome & Firefox on any platform and it runs on
Android phones & tablets, and Android TV and macOS, Windows & Linux.

Unlike almost everything from Apple, PulseSMS works in the real world.

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#142078

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Chris wrote on Sat, 15 Jun 2024 09:05:21 -0000 (UTC) :
> 
>>> The good news is it works on all platforms, so anyone can test it out.
>>> <https://home.pulsesms.app/overview/>
>> 
>> So why don't you? You're the one who already uses it and sing its praises.
>> You could have done it in the time it took write this post.
> 
> It worked for me, Chris, which I tried before you even asked, but I don't
> want to risk saying it works for everyone since I only tested it once.
> 
> I turned on airplane mode.
> I scheduled a message to my wife.
> I waited an hour and turned airplane mode off.
> 
> It sent.

When? At the same time scheduled time or when you switched off airplane
mode?

Interestingly, you claim this app is free and open source, but the source
doesn't exist and the github releases haven't been updated in nearly 18
months. 
https://github.com/maplemedia/pulse-sms-desktop/pull/16

That's worrying for an election app as they require regular updates to fix
vulnerabilities and bugs. 

> Will it send for everyone?
> Hell if I know.
> 
> But if I say it does, then you guys will jump all over me, like you always
> do, so I kept mum about it and simply said anyone could test it.
> 
> Pulse SMS works with Chrome & Firefox on any platform and it runs on
> Android phones & tablets, and Android TV and macOS, Windows & Linux.
> 
> Unlike almost everything from Apple, PulseSMS works in the real world.

Not if you look at the reviews. Almost all recent reviews complain that it
doesn't work on Android (anymore) or requires a subscription. 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger

The Play Store version has been updated so it looks like they've abandoned
their open source model. 

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#142083

Chris wrote on Sat, 15 Jun 2024 16:12:14 -0000 (UTC) :

> When? At the same time scheduled time or when you switched off airplane
> mode?

It's good that you're asking questions.

It sent when I turned airplane mode back on.

> Interestingly, you claim this app is free and open source, but the source
> doesn't exist and the github releases haven't been updated in nearly 18
> months. 
> https://github.com/maplemedia/pulse-sms-desktop/pull/16
> 
> That's worrying for an election app as they require regular updates to fix
> vulnerabilities and bugs. 

The good news is you're asking questions.

The bad news is that we covered this a thousand times already on this
newsgroup (yes, both on the Apple newsgroup and on the Android newsgroup).

There's a *reason* I called it the last known good version of PulseSMS.
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=44927&group=comp.mobile.android#44927>

>> Will it send for everyone?
>> Hell if I know.
>> 
>> But if I say it does, then you guys will jump all over me, like you always
>> do, so I kept mum about it and simply said anyone could test it.
>> 
>> Pulse SMS works with Chrome & Firefox on any platform and it runs on
>> Android phones & tablets, and Android TV and macOS, Windows & Linux.
>> 
>> Unlike almost everything from Apple, PulseSMS works in the real world.
> 
> Not if you look at the reviews. Almost all recent reviews complain that it
> doesn't work on Android (anymore) or requires a subscription. 
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger
> 
> The Play Store version has been updated so it looks like they've abandoned
> their open source model.

I don't want to come down too hard on you because you're at least asking
questions, which is something most of the ignorant Apple zealots never do.

The bad thing is we covered this a thousand times already, where we covered
it in the Apple newsgroups when we explained there's nothing that messages
does on Apple products that PulseSMS doesn't do on every platform, where
even Steve Scharf (SMS) got into the act saying that PulseSMS was sold to
Maple Media years ago.
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=35684&group=comp.mobile.android#35684>

There's a *reason* I called it "the last known good version" by the Klinker
brothers and why my screenshots showed that, which is you have to use the
last known good version.

Since we've covered this a thousand times, you'll pardon my frustration as
I'm not used to people needing something to be told to them a thousand
times. But I do appreciate that you looked it up.

That's better than what the Apple morons do who never look anything up.
So I give you credit for figuring out what I knew years ago but which the
Apple uneducated religious zealots like Jolly Roger & Alan Browne never
will figure out. 

Hence, you're at least smarter than they are, which is a good thing.
So here are some searches for "last known good version pulsesms"...

<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/4xgp8Gh2JNA/m/R5lC3Sr_BAAJ>
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/9MjAGIdZCd4/m/7U9iGtb-BAAJ>
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/search.php>
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=45000&group=comp.mobile.android#45000>

etc.

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#142085

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Chris wrote on Sat, 15 Jun 2024 16:12:14 -0000 (UTC) :
> 
>> When? At the same time scheduled time or when you switched off airplane
>> mode?
> 
> It's good that you're asking questions.
> 
> It sent when I turned airplane mode back on.

ITYM "off"

>> Interestingly, you claim this app is free and open source, but the source
>> doesn't exist and the github releases haven't been updated in nearly 18
>> months. 
>> https://github.com/maplemedia/pulse-sms-desktop/pull/16
>> 
>> That's worrying for an election app as they require regular updates to fix
>> vulnerabilities and bugs. 
> 
> The good news is you're asking questions.
> 
> The bad news is that we covered this a thousand times already on this
> newsgroup (yes, both on the Apple newsgroup and on the Android newsgroup).

Sorry to tell you but I don't read all your posts. I often killfile you. 

> There's a *reason* I called it the last known good version of PulseSMS.
>  <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=44927&group=comp.mobile.android#44927>

So you promote five-years old software that is full of bugs and no longer
supported. I thoughts not fully supported software was a big no no for you?
Why the different standards. 

Even the "good" version is not open source. Care to agree with that
statement?

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#142087

Chris wrote on Sun, 16 Jun 2024 21:36:24 -0000 (UTC) :

> Sorry to tell you but I don't read all your posts. I often killfile you.

I went to the finest schools in this country and I never met a person who
not only complains that all facts are wrong but that he never reads any.

People like you couldn't even pass a simple high school physics test.

a. You don't read any facts.
b. You deny all facts.

And you wonder why I say all you Apple religious nutcases have a low IQ.

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#142093

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Chris wrote on Sun, 16 Jun 2024 21:36:24 -0000 (UTC) :
> 
>> Sorry to tell you but I don't read all your posts. I often killfile you.
> 
> I went to the finest schools in this country 

All of them?! Was this some sort care in the community scheme? lol

> and I never met a person who
> not only complains that all facts are wrong but that he never reads any.

Looks like you didn't finish school as your comprehension skills are
non-existent. Did you simply photograph your books at school as well?

> People like you couldn't even pass a simple high school physics test.

Probably true. I didn't do physics past age 13/14. Curriculum didn't allow
for all three sciences and preferred chemistry and biology. 

> a. You don't read any facts.
> b. You deny all facts.

Couldn't be more wrong. 

> And you wonder why I say all you Apple religious nutcases have a low IQ.

I know exactly why you think that. 

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#142076

Andrew, 2024-06-13 20:06:

> Chris wrote on Thu, 13 Jun 2024 08:35:36 -0000 (UTC) :
> 
>> I mean, SMS is explicitly asynchronous - there's no guarantee a text will
>> be delivered at any time - so the time you send something is meaningless.
>> Especially with kids. 
> 
> While technically that's true, how many times have you sent an SMS/MMS
> message and had it NOT arrive within seconds of you sending it?

I have experienced this many times - especially when sending a SMS to
someone within a different provider network.

Sometimes messages even did not arrive at all. It seems SMS is not that
important for providers nowadays since they know, that many people use
messengers anyway.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#142019

On 2024-06-13 04:35, Chris wrote:

> 
> Does it still work if the phone is off/has no signal/in airplane mode?

This is where the distinction of the functionality being "on device" or 
on Apple's servers as a "store, wait and forward" function comes in....

-- 
"It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
  the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
Winston Churchill

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#142025

Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> wrote:
> On 2024-06-13 04:35, Chris wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Does it still work if the phone is off/has no signal/in airplane mode?
> 
> This is where the distinction of the functionality being "on device" or 
> on Apple's servers as a "store, wait and forward" function comes in....

Exactly. I guess it's like outlook's method where it's all done on the
server meaning it doesn't matter that your PC is off. 

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