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  Exposure Notifications inactive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2021-01-11 07:15 +0000
    Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Dean Hoffman <deanhofman@clod.com> - 2021-01-11 06:01 -0600
      Re: Exposure Notifications inactive "Fred" <hju876@hotnail.com> - 2021-01-12 03:19 +1100
        Re: More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2021-01-11 19:06 +0100
        Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-11 21:51 +0000
      Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-11 19:16 +0000
    Re: Exposure Notifications inactive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-11 14:47 +0100
      Re: Exposure Notifications inactive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2021-01-11 15:08 +0000
        Re: Exposure Notifications inactive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-11 20:51 +0100
      Re: Exposure Notifications inactive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-12 03:24 +1100
        Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2021-01-11 19:07 +0100
        Re: Exposure Notifications inactive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-11 20:48 +0100
          Re: Exposure Notifications inactive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-12 10:06 +1100
            Re: UNBELIEVABLE: It's 10:06 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard has been out of Bed and TROLLING for almost EIGHT HOURS already!!!! LOL Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2021-01-12 00:18 +0100
          Re: Exposure Notifications inactive micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2021-01-12 10:51 +0000
            Re: Exposure Notifications inactive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-12 13:31 +0100
        Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-11 21:57 +0000
          Re: Exposure Notifications inactive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-11 23:21 +0100
            Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-11 22:50 +0000
    Re: Exposure Notifications inactive rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-01-11 07:55 -0700
    Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-11 15:49 +0000
    Re: Exposure Notifications inactive VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-11 10:52 -0600
      Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2021-01-11 19:40 +0100
        Re: Exposure Notifications inactive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-11 20:55 +0100
          Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2021-01-11 22:17 +0100
            Re: Exposure Notifications inactive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-11 22:27 +0100
            Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-13 04:02 +0000
              Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2021-01-14 01:59 +0100
        Re: Exposure Notifications inactive VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-14 02:40 -0600
          Re: Exposure Notifications inactive John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 16:33 +0700
          Re: Exposure Notifications inactive "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-14 14:28 +0100
    Re: Exposure Notifications inactive VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-01-11 11:09 -0600
    Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-01-11 20:40 +0000
      Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-11 20:59 +0000
    Re: Exposure Notifications inactive &y <reply@group.please> - 2021-01-13 10:20 +0000
      Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-13 13:49 +0000
        Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Safra Katz <safrak@invalid.edu> - 2021-01-13 09:19 -0500
        Re: Exposure Notifications inactive &y <reply@group.please> - 2021-01-13 17:29 +0000
      Re: Exposure Notifications inactive Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-13 08:09 -0700
        Re: Exposure Notifications inactive &y <reply@group.please> - 2021-01-13 17:56 +0000

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#73355

On Mon, 11 Jan 21 07:15:11 UTC, micky wrote:

I'm not cc'ing the HOME REPAIR cesspool, as it is beyond repair:
o <tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair>

Plus, it has seemingly infinite socks to "defend" itself
o Although they're almost always the same set of socks as we see here

All adults on this newsgroup (yes, you too Carlos, act like an adult)
must easily note this "micky" troll is infesting us from his previous haunt 
at the Home Repair cesspool, where its goal is, AFAICT, to turn this Android 
ng into its own cesspool of infantile garbage.
o <https://i.postimg.cc/902qnHyg/ahr-spam04.jpg> the same trolls 
o <https://i.postimg.cc/qvgC9fLQ/ahr-spam03.jpg> the same trolls 
o <https://i.postimg.cc/XJCzgdgc/ahr-spam02.jpg> the same trolls 
o <https://i.postimg.cc/YSbJgV0C/ahr-spam01.jpg> the same trolls 
etc.

In addition, adults will note all the responses to date were from the _same_ 
trolls (perhaps even the same sock) who infest the a.h.r ng.

I don't bullshit - where I already easily got this "micky" troll kicked 
off its Eternal September server (Wolfgang readily agreed it's a troll).

Hence, adults will note this "micky" troll was forced to change servers:
o It's now using "usenet farm" and, at time, Paolo's server, "aioe"

As Ray Banana of Eternal September has banned this "micky" troll
o Which is yet another concrete proof it is a troll infesting this ng


 Path: doubletreewisp!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr1.eu1.usenetexpress.com!feeder3.usenet.farm!feeder2.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!news.usenet.farm
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair,comp.mobile.android
 Subject: Exposure Notifications inactive
 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 21 07:15:11 UTC
 Message-Id: <l2unvf15do4ft7bock92mtskoa2iv0rl78@4ax.com>
 Mime-Version: 1.0
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 X-Ufhash: a%2BS12UyIxV57ZHv0kxvpXWnNqFnk4tDpnMK6S92Aj76jkOJBVE6zYyEEPVKFd3xyAX5tzd%2B3Kf2dmz1XcnQ0mB6h3ZfSaVSuewFUpkVDNFGvGoh3dk%2BzIFY52P8DocXrq355Jm%2Bkw2gSHd5Y3uvrYkMRQPyKfgo5UEsNG%2B332jDqySbfzI3zYia8p%2FTB41Ct7e5c9yz610GQaSF%2BdVfltrlzOXeWfMIlwOMM
 Organization: Usenet.Farm
 Xref: doubletreewisp alt.home.repair:530027 comp.mobile.android:71185

See also:
o Please be aware that the "micky" troll has morphed to the "philo" troll
  <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/31BTh-i6ERQ>

In summary, this "micky" troll is toying with us (AFAICT), by trolling
us with fabricated problem sets, so that we'll waste our time trying
to help it (where all you have to do is ask it for proof, like a 
screenshot, and note they haven't ever provided that proof).

Why does it troll?
o I don't know why.

I just know that it does.
o Here are just the requests I sent to ES who agreed it's a troll:
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/ZqfJDrckXlQ> 1st request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/OqmfDmv-rEE> 2nd request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/TImHM2egkaY> 3rd request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/XphN4AkKzFA> 4th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/aPnh6Okku8k> 5th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/vO2WvHzFIVU> 6th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/uP5dZ6Nkbzo> 7th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/ZqfJDrckXlQ> 8th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/XphN4AkKzFA> 9th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/aPnh6Okku8k> 10th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/vO2WvHzFIVU> 11th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/uP5dZ6Nkbzo> 12th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/mvt8sFNsL4A> 13th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/s-wHIpd1Y_A> 14th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/y7kHl6T1ou8> 15th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/owzGhUTzVy8> 16th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/biJijnd396U> 17th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/jBbcZbz1QAc> 18th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/1GseU5suCrU> 19th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/CAqIPuUurCM> 20th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/oYI2T7K7vzc> 21st request
Where Eternal September booted this "micky" troll after that last request.

Here are the requests I sent to its new "Usenet Farm" server admin:
1st request for this "usenet farm" NNTP server:
o Subject: DoD, OMB, still not cooperating.
o URL <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/aSPCi9kDFms>
o Date: Tue, 29 Dec 20 11:16:01 UTC
o From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
o PATH > usenet.farm > highwinds
o Message-Id: <2j3mufh965ice77ep4fpio50vn6qqhcir6@4ax.com>

2nd request for this "usenet farm" NNTP server:
o Subject: trump still at it.
o URL <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/PE2vt6TTBK4>
o Date: Sun, 03 Jan 21 23:07:26 UTC
o From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
o PATH > usenet.farm > news.xs4all.nl
o Message-Id: <q9j4vf5223sqb59l18s64uv2j28jev01th@4ax.com>

3rd request for this "usenet farm" NNTP server:
o Subject: more goings on in Congress
o URL <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/V8DuHR81y64>
o Date: Sun, 03 Jan 21 14:12:39 UTC
o From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
o PATH > usenet.farm > news.uzoreto.com
o Message-Id: <llg3vf9bag20n2s68av0k68eiphg0r1fuu@4ax.com>

Why does it troll?
o I don't know why.

What this "micky" troll is trying to do, I think, is establish
credibilityh that it doesn't _only_ troll, by these fabricated
questions on the Android newsgroup which I refer to as 
"credibility trolls".

Notice:
o It spends zero effort in the original post
o It throws up imaginary hurdles to keep the troll going
o It brings in its many socks (all of whom infest the REPAIR ng)
o It never proves anything (not even with a simple screenshot)
o It wastes our valuable time (which is time not spent helping others)
-- 
If we allow the HOME REPAIR trolls to infest this Android newsgroup, 
it will be turned into the same cesspool that they thrive in.

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#73361

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

> To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth, and I got a notification on
> the cellular startup screen with a red sun and the message "Exposure
> Notifications inactive.  To use this feature, turn on bluetooth." 
> 
> I had to google to be reminded of what it meant.  It refers to exposure
> to covid and since a) I have the app that keeps track of whether I'm
> near an infected person, and b) I turned off bluetooth, it complains. 
> 
> I only go out once or twice a week, soI will leave it off and hope the
> reminder re-appears when I'm leaving the house. 

You installed a [Covid] contact tracking app.  Those are used to record
when your phone has been near another phone for some minimal amount of
time, like 5 minutes.  It doesn't track when YOU have been close to
someone else for that long.  It tracks when the phones were near each
other, like on side tables on a charger alongside beds in separate
apartments across a common wall.  The pretense was when the phones are
near then so are the people using those phones, but that is incorrect.
They might help, but only if widely adopted, and the adoption rate has
been dismal in countries where users are not mandated by law to use
them.

Those apps do NOT identify you were near an infected person.  After
testing positive, a user gets a code from a medical authority which is
then used to alert other phones that tracked you were close to them.
Sending the alert is voluntary, especially since sending an alert lets
the servers track who sent an alert to know who is infected, and is
outside the purview of, say, a hospital that is supposed to keep your
records private.  Just because someone else's phone tracked your phone,
and that someone else got infected, does NOT mandate that you get an
alert you were close to them (and within the incubation period since
ancient contacts are worthless).

Since Bluetooth pinging to find other nearby Bluetooth devices is how
these tracking apps work, it's no surprise that the tracking app you
installed complains that you disabled Bluetooth.

If you leave Bluetooth disabled, you'll only get the notification from
the tracking app when it loads.  You leaving the house does somehow
magically reload the app.  YOU will have to remember to reenable
Bluetooth when you leave home.  Unless you live in an apartment, condo,
or other dwelling that has shared walls or live where you are in very
close proximity to others (to eliminate false tracking with those you do
not have contact since there were walls between you), why turn off
Bluetooth unless you're concerned about your old Android's Bluetooth
vulnerabilities?

Someone mentioned the app might use GPS.  Apparently that responder
doesn't realize that GPS is not always accessible.  It can get blocked:
metal studs, file cabinets, concrete, refrigerators, plaster (not
sheetrock), water, brick, and other objects along with RF interference
can block the GPS signal.  How would the app know when you entered and
exited your car since while you are in the car then you aren't exposed
to others (just like walls in an apartment mean you are not exposed
despite your phone's Bluetooth can reach another phone's Bluetooth)?
The app would have to monitor for a rate of change in GPS that would
represent the speed of travel for a car, like greater than 30 miles per
hour, but then the app falsely tracks other Bluetooth phones when you're
stuck at a stoplight or rush-hour traffic for many minutes.

Then you might want to consider how paranoid you are regarding the
vulnerabilities of leaving Bluetooth enabled all the time, even when you
are moving around outside your home.  Does the promise however slight of
getting notified you might be infected (and have to pay for testing if
not covered by health insurance) outweigh the possibility of getting
hacked via Bluetooth?  You won't get a latter version of Bluetooth (5.1)
unless your phone maker supplies an OS update.  After a phone is no
longer supported, the OS updates disappear (unless you get a Google
phone).  You won't get a new version of Bluetooth until you get a newer
version of the OS (well, maybe if you root your phone than you can
decide when to update the BT stack).

https://www.google.com/search?q=bluetooth%20vulnerability

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#73374

VanguardLH wrote:
> The pretense was when the phones are
> near then so are the people using those phones, but that is incorrect.
> They might help, but only if widely adopted, and the adoption rate has
> been dismal in countries where users are not mandated by law to use
> them.

Which countries mandate people by law to buy and use a smartphone?

-p

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#73381

On 11/01/2021 19.40, Piet wrote:
> VanguardLH wrote:
>> The pretense was when the phones are
>> near then so are the people using those phones, but that is incorrect.
>> They might help, but only if widely adopted, and the adoption rate has
>> been dismal in countries where users are not mandated by law to use
>> them.
> 
> Which countries mandate people by law to buy and use a smartphone?

The mandate is to use the covid tracing app, in some countries, if you
have a phone.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#73386

Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 11/01/2021 19.40, Piet wrote:
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>> The pretense was when the phones are
>>> near then so are the people using those phones, but that is incorrect.
>>> They might help, but only if widely adopted, and the adoption rate has
>>> been dismal in countries where users are not mandated by law to use
>>> them.
>>
>> Which countries mandate people by law to buy and use a smartphone?
> 
> The mandate is to use the covid tracing app, in some countries,
> if you have a phone.

Which countries? Certainly not in the EU:
https://officialblogofunio.com/2020/10/20/the-mandatory-contact-tracing-app-stayaway-covid-a-matter-of-european-union-law/

Also, your addition "if you have a phone" falls short. At least it
should be "if you have a suitable smartphone". And even then I don't
see how it could be mandatory to:
- always carry the phone with you
- leave it on permanently
Even a "having a smartphone" requirement can be a serious showstopper.
According to the Dutch Bureau of Statistics, in 2019 (no later figures
available yet) 48% (!) of 75+ people didn't have a smartphone. And then
we're talking about the category most susceptible to the most serious
consequences fo covid-19.

-p

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#73387

On 11/01/2021 22.17, Piet wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 11/01/2021 19.40, Piet wrote:
>>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>>> The pretense was when the phones are
>>>> near then so are the people using those phones, but that is incorrect.
>>>> They might help, but only if widely adopted, and the adoption rate has
>>>> been dismal in countries where users are not mandated by law to use
>>>> them.
>>>
>>> Which countries mandate people by law to buy and use a smartphone?
>>
>> The mandate is to use the covid tracing app, in some countries,
>> if you have a phone.
> 
> Which countries? Certainly not in the EU:

I never said it was on the EU.

I think it is China and some other Asian countries. Perhaps some Arabic
countries too. I don't know for sure.

> https://officialblogofunio.com/2020/10/20/the-mandatory-contact-tracing-app-stayaway-covid-a-matter-of-european-union-law/
> 
> Also, your addition "if you have a phone" falls short. At least it
> should be "if you have a suitable smartphone". And even then I don't
> see how it could be mandatory to:
> - always carry the phone with you
> - leave it on permanently
> Even a "having a smartphone" requirement can be a serious showstopper.
> According to the Dutch Bureau of Statistics, in 2019 (no later figures
> available yet) 48% (!) of 75+ people didn't have a smartphone. And then
> we're talking about the category most susceptible to the most serious
> consequences fo covid-19.

Whatever. In any case, in those countries where it is mandatory the
usage of the app is very high and it is effective.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#73468

On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 22:17:44 +0100, Piet wrote:

Hi Piet,

QUESTION for this newsgroup, and for anyone responding in this thread:
o Do we want this "micky" troll to turn the Android ng into its cesspool?

I realize you're conversing with Carlos, which, well, you'll figure out why
that's almost certainly going to be futile.

What I just wanted to post is the following I just compiled on the last few
posts of the author of this thread, all of which are infantile political
trolls.

I don't know why it trolls, but I do very clearly prove that it does.
o You can decide what you want, based on facts - as I simply present them.

FACT 1: 
o This "micky" troll got kicked off of Eternal September late in December.
  (for turning those groups into cesspools of its infantile politics)

FACT 2:
o This "micky" troll enrolled in a new Usenet server at that time
  (it continued to turn those ngs into cesspools of its infantile politics).

QUESTION for this newsgroup:
o Do we want this "micky" troll to turn the Android ng into its cesspool?

Here are the _new_ infantile trolls from this "micky" troll
o Nobody who is an adult could possibly disagree with the facts below.
  *** *** *** 
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: Pro-trump rally outside Twitter.
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Message-Id: <d1fqvf9svcclktjbdb75h53lfoqvo6stf1@4ax.com>
 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 21 06:05:55 UTC
  *** *** *** 
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Message-Id: <iveovfh9fkvbp3pfd6j8vrcb5nortma370@4ax.com>
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Subject: OT Lawsuit
 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 21 12:00:12 UTC
  *** *** *** 
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: OT  Loans should be non-discriminatory, so do what Isay
 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 21 11:52:12 UTC
 Message-Id: <bqdovflel82i23tg337i75gu60lebavgn9@4ax.com>
  *** *** *** 
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: Which one of you will be the Newton of this generation?
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 21 09:39:03 UTC
 Message-Id: <m47ovf5h1lefbrbgmi7l162t2qbt3trvit@4ax.com>
  *** *** *** 
 Message-Id: <gg1ovf5i5ig92cj4ef87ilb3kiaj2kj81d@4ax.com>
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: OT impeached twice
 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 21 08:06:26 UTC
  *** *** *** 
 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 21 16:15:16 UTC
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: OT  10 days vs. 8.
 Message-Id: <bv9mvf1itq95cikme6pfo93cf49noidg3b@4ax.com>
  *** *** *** 
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: OT  CEO and still stupid.
 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 21 16:12:53 UTC
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Message-Id: <tt8mvfdf8bfd65272ttv7ci6es818f1s7v@4ax.com>
  *** *** *** 
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Subject: OT Stumpie inteferes with election counting
 Message-Id: <e2qlvfltobc0o6sq71dpdl3tgf1k1cof2f@4ax.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 21 11:45:49 UTC
  *** *** *** 
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Subject: OT  More stumpie, all the time
 Message-Id: <itogvfl7cvokjra31inpi6bj2acttkvrpe@4ax.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Date: Fri, 08 Jan 21 14:03:48 UTC
  *** *** *** 
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Date: Fri, 08 Jan 21 10:18:45 UTC
 Message-Id: <tjbgvfh0r13l30qh71mjadbjaf6d83bgn0@4ax.com>
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Subject: Problems with 25th Amendment
  *** *** *** 
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: Which is highdr, Online or store prices.
 Date: Fri, 08 Jan 21 09:36:47 UTC
 Message-Id: <359gvf9jrmrd9vinvkc3c5thmp7nr44udc@4ax.com>
  *** *** *** 
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Date: Thu, 07 Jan 21 13:12:41 UTC
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: Not resigning to make sure bad things don't happen. `
 Message-Id: <t22evf53too3nj9cc7kdlq2c12v58so5n3@4ax.com>
  *** *** *** 
 Date: Thu, 07 Jan 21 12:04:08 UTC
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: OT Just imagine
 Message-Id: <d1udvfptu62b4p8hpc6gg3u2q2bsgululf@4ax.com>
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
  *** *** *** 
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Date: Thu, 07 Jan 21 08:53:43 UTC
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Subject: A plan
 Message-Id: <ttidvfpa26h08fiusd19jlmkjnmgvlan72@4ax.com>
  *** *** *** 
 Date: Wed, 06 Jan 21 22:49:52 UTC
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: Misc about DC today
 Message-Id: <a8fcvf5gbn7bupj8ckatg33qiil8nrega0@4ax.com>
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
  *** *** *** 
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Date: Wed, 06 Jan 21 19:36:36 UTC
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: the biggest collection of jackasses in America in my lifetime
 Message-Id: <683cvf1gb5am1st0bagjk0kj6rct64f9bv@4ax.com>
  *** *** *** 
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: elections in flux
 Date: Tue, 05 Jan 21 15:07:07 UTC
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 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Subject: OT  stumpie from his sister's pov
 Date: Tue, 05 Jan 21 07:20:29 UTC
  *** *** *** 
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: OT paraphaising, I got along petty good with North Korea
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Date: Tue, 05 Jan 21 05:05:28 UTC
 Message-Id: <5js7vfph6ov29fht9dnh3kicgk0uj9dk86@4ax.com>
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 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 21 06:27:04 UTC
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Subject: Nemo iudex in causa sua
 Message-Id: <tmb5vfh05beqa4781b3dne8dj03cr6i6cq@4ax.com>
  *** *** *** 
 Subject: trump still at it.
 Date: Sun, 03 Jan 21 23:07:26 UTC
 Message-Id: <q9j4vf5223sqb59l18s64uv2j28jev01th@4ax.com>
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
  *** *** *** 
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: OT   more goings on in Congress
 Message-Id: <llg3vf9bag20n2s68av0k68eiphg0r1fuu@4ax.com>
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Date: Sun, 03 Jan 21 14:12:39 UTC
  *** *** *** 
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: OT congressional audit of election voting
 Date: Sat, 02 Jan 21 22:41:25 UTC
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 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Subject: Where the Boys Are
 Date: Fri, 01 Jan 21 07:12:55 UTC
  *** *** *** 
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 Subject: Why  only cloth masks
 Message-Id: <qdqsufdhvjj22a9dq9jh1ceqeuudqm6huk@4ax.com>
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Date: Fri, 01 Jan 21 00:24:42 UTC
  *** *** *** 
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: OT 2 hours debate total or 2x4
 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 20 21:24:47 UTC
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  *** *** *** 
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: Why can't you rewind youtube advertisements?
 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 20 06:35:34 UTC
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 Date: Tue, 29 Dec 20 11:16:01 UTC
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 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: DoD, OMB, still not cooperating.
  *** *** *** 
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 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: DoD, OMB, still not cooperating.
  *** *** *** 
 Subject: trump still at it.
 Date: Sun, 03 Jan 21 23:07:26 UTC
 Message-Id: <q9j4vf5223sqb59l18s64uv2j28jev01th@4ax.com>
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
  *** *** *** 
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: OT   more goings on in Congress
 Message-Id: <llg3vf9bag20n2s68av0k68eiphg0r1fuu@4ax.com>
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Date: Sun, 03 Jan 21 14:12:39 UTC
  *** *** *** 
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Subject: Why would this virus be different from the other viruses?
 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 21 08:39:55 UTC
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  *** *** *** 
 From: micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
 Subject: OT  Only 50 or 51 votes needed
 Message-Id: <idtqvfdeav8dah82puiuaung3vbv3k9r81@4ax.com>
 Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 21 10:18:03 UTC
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-- 
I don't know why it trolls; but I can easily prove that it does.
o The question is do we want it to turn this ng into its cesspool?

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#73570

Hi Arlen,

On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 04:02:02 +0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> wrote:

> Hi Piet,
>
> QUESTION for this newsgroup, and for anyone responding in this thread:
> o Do we want this "micky" troll to turn the Android ng into its cesspool?

I doubt Piet will ever answer this.
I am 98% sure his troll strategy
is the same as mine: 
Just ignore trolls. Don't feed them bait.

Any discussion about trolls just muds the
water even more.

If I decide to leave this group, it is not 
because of trolls, but the excessive troll
profiling you are performing.
-- 
Kees Nuyt

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#73581

Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> The pretense was when the phones are near then so are the people
>> using those phones, but that is incorrect. They might help, but only
>> if widely adopted, and the adoption rate has been dismal in
>> countries where users are not mandated by law to use them.
> 
> Which countries mandate people by law to buy and use a smartphone?

If you have a smartphone, India requires you have their Covid contact
tracking app to travel.  I heard the requirement was "eased", but not
just what got relaxed.

In Argentina, people who enter the country (i.e., from abroad) are
required to install a Covid contact tracking app.

In China, and instead of a national requirements, cities mandate their
own rules.  Some have mandated that citizens without a health infection
color code cannot enter public places.

In Turkey, anyone with HES codes on their app which indicates they
tested positive or have been in contact (as determined by the tracking
app - which has already been mentioned its failings) with someone
infected are not allowed to use public transportation or airplanes.

In Russian, anyone identified (but how is not mentioned) that was in
contact with an infected person must install the Social Monitoring app,
or face a fine.  Those without smartphones get special devices with the
app pre-installed.

In countries where citizens are quarantined must install an app, so the
authorities can monitor their movement.

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#73582

On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 02:40:58 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

>Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> wrote:
>
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> The pretense was when the phones are near then so are the people
>>> using those phones, but that is incorrect. They might help, but only
>>> if widely adopted, and the adoption rate has been dismal in
>>> countries where users are not mandated by law to use them.
>> 
>> Which countries mandate people by law to buy and use a smartphone?
>
>If you have a smartphone, India requires you have their Covid contact
>tracking app to travel.  I heard the requirement was "eased", but not
>just what got relaxed.
>
>In Argentina, people who enter the country (i.e., from abroad) are
>required to install a Covid contact tracking app.
>
>In China, and instead of a national requirements, cities mandate their
>own rules.  Some have mandated that citizens without a health infection
>color code cannot enter public places.
>
>In Turkey, anyone with HES codes on their app which indicates they
>tested positive or have been in contact (as determined by the tracking
>app - which has already been mentioned its failings) with someone
>infected are not allowed to use public transportation or airplanes.
>
>In Russian, anyone identified (but how is not mentioned) that was in
>contact with an infected person must install the Social Monitoring app,
>or face a fine.  Those without smartphones get special devices with the
>app pre-installed.
>
>In countries where citizens are quarantined must install an app, so the
>authorities can monitor their movement.

I would add Singapore,mandatory for all, I believe, and Thailand
mandatory for the three provinces with a large number of cases and
recommended for all provinces.
-- 
Cheers,

John B.

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#73586

On 14/01/2021 09.40, VanguardLH wrote:
> Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> The pretense was when the phones are near then so are the people
>>> using those phones, but that is incorrect. They might help, but only
>>> if widely adopted, and the adoption rate has been dismal in
>>> countries where users are not mandated by law to use them.
>>
>> Which countries mandate people by law to buy and use a smartphone?
> 
> If you have a smartphone, India requires you have their Covid contact
> tracking app to travel.  I heard the requirement was "eased", but not
> just what got relaxed.
> 
> In Argentina, people who enter the country (i.e., from abroad) are
> required to install a Covid contact tracking app.
> 
> In China, and instead of a national requirements, cities mandate their
> own rules.  Some have mandated that citizens without a health infection
> color code cannot enter public places.
> 
> In Turkey, anyone with HES codes on their app which indicates they
> tested positive or have been in contact (as determined by the tracking
> app - which has already been mentioned its failings) with someone
> infected are not allowed to use public transportation or airplanes.
> 
> In Russian, anyone identified (but how is not mentioned) that was in
> contact with an infected person must install the Social Monitoring app,
> or face a fine.  Those without smartphones get special devices with the
> app pre-installed.
> 
> In countries where citizens are quarantined must install an app, so the
> authorities can monitor their movement.

Not here.

The authorities have found that about a 10% of the people mandated to
quarantine evade it. The health authorities go to their homes for a
followup, and they are not there.

The press mentions that it is difficult to keep a quarantine if your
boss doesn't cooperate. The employees lose their jobs and sustenance.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#73362

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

> Also I bought some Basic AAA batteries from Amazon and the mailing
> label had in bold fairly large text “Not restricted as per special
> provision”. Other things were in the bag too and I'd bought 9V
> batteries just a few months ago and there was no such message, so I
> had to look that up, but it's definitely because of the batteries. 
> Every 12 batteries came in its own shrink wrap.

The warning may be due to shipping restrictions on certain types of
batteries.  Lead-acid batteries sold without the electrolyte (sulfuric
acid) should be shippable, but not if the electrolyte was added.
Sulfuric acid requires special hazard shipping requirements.  Shipping
of hazardous materials costs extra and requires special handling.  Since
the "provision" wasn't mention, no idea what might be the provision,
regulation, shipping restriction, or whatever.

In my area, alkaline batteries can be disposed of in your regular trash
disposal.  Same for other "disposable" batteries, except those using
mercury which is poisonous.  The recyclable content is very low, and
they are not a fire hazard (but I'd still put tape on one end).  Lithium
batteries are poisonous, so they must be dumped at a hazardous disposal
facility.  NiCads contain lead, so they are poisonous, so also require
special disposal.  MiMH and, in general, rechargeable batteries require
special disposal.  You need to check what are the rules in your area.

I put tape across the contacts, and store up the old NiCd, NiMH, and
lithium batteries (don't use mercury batteries) to take them in as a
bunch to the local hazard disposal facility.  Cost is $10 per trip, so I
stow up a lot before making the trip (10 miles away, but I can combine
with trips to grocery, hardware, and other stores).  Some hardware
stores (e.g., Home Depot via Call2Recycle bins) have disposal service.
There may be local rechargeable recycling drop-offs in your area.  

If the battery says "Battery Must Be Recycled" or has a recycle icon,
they require special disposal.

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#73382

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

> Newsgroups: alt.home.repair,comp.mobile.android

  micky, don't be a nuisance by posting on-topic (in this case in
comp.mobile.android) stuff to unrelated groups (in this case
alt.home.repair).

  alt.home.repair has been destroyed a long time ago, but that's no
excuse to crosspost on-topic stuff from other groups to it.

  If you want people to see your on-topic posts, then stop this abuse.

[Crosspost filter changed to include comp.mobile.android.]

[...]

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#73385

On 11 Jan 2021 20:40:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>   micky, don't be a nuisance by posting on-topic (in this case in
> comp.mobile.android) stuff to unrelated groups (in this case
> alt.home.repair).
> 
>   alt.home.repair has been destroyed a long time ago, but that's no
> excuse to crosspost on-topic stuff from other groups to it.
> 
>   If you want people to see your on-topic posts, then stop this abuse.

Frank,

I'm trying to save this newsgroup from becoming the cesspool these
infantile political trolls have turned other newsgroups into.
o I need your help. We all need your help. And that of Carlos too.

The entire set of trolls who posted to this thread, other than you, me, 
and, unfortunately, Carlos (who is clearly too stupid to know better), 
are well-known trolls who turned the a.h.r newsgroup into a cesspool.

It already was booted off of Wolfang's Eternal September server weeks ago
o And Paolo gave it a time out (I'm not sure how long though)

Now it's posting its "micky" account from "usenet.farm" 
o I haven't gotten their server admin to boot him yet.

As you are well aware, this "micky" is attempting to destroy this ng
o It doesn't care one bit about its fabricated problem set

It's simply trying to establish a "credibility" so that it can't be accused
of _always_ trolling (which it did until I got it booted from its servers).

I don't think anything you say or do will stop this "micky" troll
o And its many socks who already responded to this thread (surprise not)

You may chastise this "micky" but it already told us it has a God-given
right to troll (it told us to "fuck off" when we asked it to stop).

Don't believe me Frank? Look here:
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/ZqfJDrckXlQ> 1st request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/OqmfDmv-rEE> 2nd request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/TImHM2egkaY> 3rd request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/XphN4AkKzFA> 4th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/aPnh6Okku8k> 5th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/vO2WvHzFIVU> 6th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/uP5dZ6Nkbzo> 7th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/ZqfJDrckXlQ> 8th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/XphN4AkKzFA> 9th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/aPnh6Okku8k> 10th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/vO2WvHzFIVU> 11th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/uP5dZ6Nkbzo> 12th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/mvt8sFNsL4A> 13th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/s-wHIpd1Y_A> 14th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/y7kHl6T1ou8> 15th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/owzGhUTzVy8> 16th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/biJijnd396U> 17th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/jBbcZbz1QAc> 18th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/1GseU5suCrU> 19th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/CAqIPuUurCM> 20th request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/oYI2T7K7vzc> 21st request

It took that many requests for Ray Banana to boot it off ES
o How many will Usenet Farm take?

I don't know.

Why does it troll?
o I don't know.

But what I do know, is that it will never stop.
o The only way to stop it, AFAIK, is to complain to its server admin.

You know that better than anyone, Frank.
o As you used to run your own NNTP server.
-- 
I'm trying to save this newsgroup from becoming the cesspool these
infantile political trolls have turned other newsgroups into.

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#73480

On Mon, 11 Jan 21 07:15:11 UTC, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

>To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth

[]
Sorry to snip away the rest of your post, micky. The first line was all I
wanted to comment about. Leaving bluetooth on used to have quite an impact,
but not so much anymore.

 "So… does turning Bluetooth off save battery?

  No, not really.

  Over the course of our 26-hour “typical day” test, leaving Bluetooth on
  consumed just 1.8% more battery compared to the test with Bluetooth off."
 https://bit.ly/35Asjhb

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#73486

On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:20:56 +0000, &y wrote:

> Sorry to snip away the rest of your post, micky.

Hi "&y",

Given your "posting record", I suspect you're a troll, but I will wait for
you to troll further to confirm that suspicion (or, perhaps, you'll prove
to be real, which I would welcome).

Nonetheless my point of responding is that you may not get a reply from
this "micky" troll (at least not from the server it opened this thread
with).

Facts:
o "micky" was booted off Eternal September in late December 
   (about the 23rd or so as recall - based on facts presented to Wolfgang)
o "micky" immediately started spamming on Paolo's server (aioe) 
   (who timed him out, but for an unknown time frame, AFAICT)
o "micky" subsequently moved to UsenetFarm to spam this ng
   (who kicked it off just now, only moments ago, in fact, AFAIK)

Note: I'm not sure if the "Bod" troll was also kicked off, as they're one
and the same anyway - where the Usenet Farm server admin wasn't explicit.

BTW, this thread was always just a "credibility troll" anyway, (IMHO),
where you can tell by a whole bunch of obvious clues, not the least of
which is the OP's never put any energy into them (they just fabricate
the question of of thin air, toying with anyone who tries to help, by
throwing up arbitrary obstacles and by not acting upon any advice nor
proving a single word it says).

One by one, the facts will get these trolls kicked off its servers.
-- 
Note: I'm not so naive to believe it won't keep finding new servers; 
and changing its IP addresses on each; but, like weeds, it can certainly
grow faster than I can keep up, but the nntp server admins are
the last bastion of weed killers that may yet save this newsgroup
from the cesspool of the troll (it is perhaps a single puppet master?).

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#73489

On 1/13/21 8:49 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:20:56 +0000, &y wrote:
> 
>> Sorry to snip away the rest of your post, micky.
> 
> Hi "&y",
> 
> Given your "posting record", I suspect you're a troll, but I will wait for
> you to troll further to confirm that suspicion (or, perhaps, you'll prove
> to be real, which I would welcome).
> 
> Nonetheless my point of responding is that you may not get a reply from
> this "micky" troll (at least not from the server it opened this thread
> with).
> 
> Facts:
> o "micky" was booted off Eternal September in late December
>     (about the 23rd or so as recall - based on facts presented to Wolfgang)
> o "micky" immediately started spamming on Paolo's server (aioe)
>     (who timed him out, but for an unknown time frame, AFAICT)
> o "micky" subsequently moved to UsenetFarm to spam this ng
>     (who kicked it off just now, only moments ago, in fact, AFAIK)
> 
> Note: I'm not sure if the "Bod" troll was also kicked off, as they're one
> and the same anyway - where the Usenet Farm server admin wasn't explicit.
> 
> BTW, this thread was always just a "credibility troll" anyway, (IMHO),
> where you can tell by a whole bunch of obvious clues, not the least of
> which is the OP's never put any energy into them (they just fabricate
> the question of of thin air, toying with anyone who tries to help, by
> throwing up arbitrary obstacles and by not acting upon any advice nor
> proving a single word it says).
> 
> One by one, the facts will get these trolls kicked off its servers.
> 


If micky-bod would just preface off-topic posts with the three character string "OT:", this wouldn't be an issue.

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#73509

On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 13:49:15 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder
<arlen_holder@newmachines.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:20:56 +0000, &y wrote:
>
>> Sorry to snip away the rest of your post, micky.
>
>Hi "&y",

Andy, short for Andrew.

>Given your "posting record", I suspect you're a troll, 

What posting record? I very rarely post... anywhere. 

>but I will wait for
>you to troll further to confirm that suspicion (or, perhaps, you'll prove
>to be real, which I would welcome).
>
>Nonetheless my point of responding is that you may not get a reply from
>this "micky" troll (at least not from the server it opened this thread
>with).
>
>Facts:
>o "micky" was booted off Eternal September in late December 
>   (about the 23rd or so as recall - based on facts presented to Wolfgang)
>o "micky" immediately started spamming on Paolo's server (aioe) 
>   (who timed him out, but for an unknown time frame, AFAICT)
>o "micky" subsequently moved to UsenetFarm to spam this ng
>   (who kicked it off just now, only moments ago, in fact, AFAIK)
>
>Note: I'm not sure if the "Bod" troll was also kicked off, as they're one
>and the same anyway - where the Usenet Farm server admin wasn't explicit.
>
>BTW, this thread was always just a "credibility troll" anyway, (IMHO),
>where you can tell by a whole bunch of obvious clues, not the least of
>which is the OP's never put any energy into them (they just fabricate
>the question of of thin air, toying with anyone who tries to help, by
>throwing up arbitrary obstacles and by not acting upon any advice nor
>proving a single word it says).
>
>One by one, the facts will get these trolls kicked off its servers.

You're tilting at windmills, Mr. Holder. 

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#73493

On 1/13/2021 3:20 AM, &y wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 21 07:15:11 UTC, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> 
>>To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth
> 
> []
> Sorry to snip away the rest of your post, micky. The first line was all I
> wanted to comment about. Leaving bluetooth on used to have quite an impact,
> but not so much anymore.
> 
>   "So… does turning Bluetooth off save battery?
> 
>    No, not really.
> 
>    Over the course of our 26-hour “typical day” test, leaving Bluetooth on
>    consumed just 1.8% more battery compared to the test with Bluetooth off."
>   https://bit.ly/35Asjhb


I keep bluetooth on all the time, so the phone works on my car. I have 
no idea what effect it has on the phone's battery and I don't care. I 
usually charge the battery every other night and that's fine with me.


-- 
Ken

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#73514

On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 08:09:44 -0700, Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote:

>On 1/13/2021 3:20 AM, &y wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Jan 21 07:15:11 UTC, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>To save battery, I turned off my bluetooth
>> 
>> []
>> Sorry to snip away the rest of your post, micky. The first line was all I
>> wanted to comment about. Leaving bluetooth on used to have quite an impact,
>> but not so much anymore.
>> 
>>   "So… does turning Bluetooth off save battery?
>> 
>>    No, not really.
>> 
>>    Over the course of our 26-hour “typical day” test, leaving Bluetooth on
>>    consumed just 1.8% more battery compared to the test with Bluetooth off."
>>   https://bit.ly/35Asjhb
>
>
>I keep bluetooth on all the time, so the phone works on my car. I have 
>no idea what effect it has on the phone's battery and I don't care. I 
>usually charge the battery every other night and that's fine with me.

Same here, but I charge it each night on a qui charger next to the bed every
night in place of my old bedside clock. Besides using bluetooth for the car
I have it connected to my fitbit watch and fitbit bathroom scales. Don't
know what I'd do without all this tech now. I don't think I could bear the
anxiety in having to count how many times I've climbed the stairs each day.

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