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  Call Recording Ian <ian@privacy.net> - 2019-01-26 18:48 +0000
    Re: Call Recording arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 20:48 +0000
      Re: Call Recording Boris <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-26 21:12 +0000
        Re: Call Recording arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-26 22:17 +0000
    Re: Call Recording Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2019-01-27 07:29 +0100
      Re: Call Recording VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2019-01-27 01:31 -0600
        Re: Call Recording Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2019-01-27 11:13 +0100
          Re: Call Recording Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2019-01-27 15:04 +0000
            Re: Call Recording 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2019-01-27 09:09 -0700
            Re: Call Recording arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-28 01:49 +0000
          Re: Call Recording arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-28 01:49 +0000
        Re: Call Recording Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2019-01-27 11:16 +0100
          Re: Call Recording VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2019-01-27 20:03 -0600
            Re: Call Recording "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-28 03:54 +0100
              Re: Call Recording arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-28 03:53 +0000
        Re: Call Recording "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-27 14:36 +0100
          Re: Call Recording Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2019-01-30 21:32 +0100
        Re: Call Recording nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-27 14:16 -0500
      Re: Call Recording John McGaw <Nobody@Nowh.ere> - 2019-01-27 11:11 -0500
      Re: Call Recording "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2019-01-27 17:49 +0100
        Re: Call Recording "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2019-01-27 17:58 +0100
          Re: Call Recording Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2019-01-27 21:39 +0100
            Re: Call Recording "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2019-01-27 23:00 +0100
        Re: Call Recording Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2019-01-27 21:32 +0100
          Re: Call Recording arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-28 01:48 +0000
      Re: Call Recording arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-28 01:49 +0000

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#59381

On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 17:49:24 +0100, s|b wrote:

> > They are simply illegal.
 
> Maybe in your country, but what about elsewhere?

I just checked and in Belgium it is _legal_. You have to be a
participant of the conversion and permission is needed from only one
person (yourself included).

Whether the recording can be used in court as evidence is another story.

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s|b

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#59405

Am 27.01.19 um 17:58 schrieb s|b:
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 17:49:24 +0100, s|b wrote:
> 
>>> They are simply illegal.
>   
>> Maybe in your country, but what about elsewhere?
> 
> I just checked and in Belgium it is _legal_. You have to be a
> participant of the conversion and permission is needed from only one
> person (yourself included).
> 
> Whether the recording can be used in court as evidence is another story.
> 
This is not correct for the whole of the EU. Without court order ist 
cannot be used as evidence.

I can sue anybody tapping my phone without consent. Guess why all 
companies in the EU and the rest of Europe need written consent from 
their work force if they want to or have to to record phone calls for 
regulatory reasons. Otherwise it would be severe breach of personal privacy.

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#59412

On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 21:39:58 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> This is not correct for the whole of the EU. Without court order ist 
> cannot be used as evidence.

Based on this site:

<https://www.elfri.be/rechtspraak/gesprek-opnemen-als-bewijs-en-niet-als-chantagemiddel-toegelaten>

in Belgium, it can. The link states: 'recording a (phone) conversation
as evidence and not as a mean to blackmail, is allowed'.
 
> I can sue anybody tapping my phone without consent.

AFAIK 'tapping' is something else. It's recording phone conversation by
a person that is not taking part in the conversation.

> Guess why all 
> companies in the EU and the rest of Europe need written consent from 
> their work force if they want to or have to to record phone calls for 
> regulatory reasons.

Because the recording is done by a third party, one that is not part of
the conversation.

> Otherwise it would be severe breach of personal privacy.

I wouldn't know about that. You talk about a breach in personal privacy,
but the article says the conversation can be recorded because it is part
of the (recording) person's privacy as well.

I have no idea how this law holds up when the other party is living in
another country.

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s|b

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#59404

Am 27.01.19 um 17:49 schrieb s|b:
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 07:29:14 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> 
>> They are simply illegal.
> 
> Maybe in your country, but what about elsewhere?
> 
I do not commit crimes elsewhere so I don't care.
*SCNR*

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#59419

On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 21:32:09 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> I do not commit crimes elsewhere so I don't care.

In other words, you just admitted you own the mind of a child, Joerg Lorenz.

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#59422

On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 07:29:14 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> They are simply illegal.

And, the lemon juice hid the face of the bank robber from the camera.

Which is to say...
o The imaginary belief system of Joerg Lorenz is completely immune to fact.

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