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Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-01 23:53 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-02 19:42 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-02 14:24 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-02 21:49 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-02 20:26 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Tim <onelydad58@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 04:46 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-03 12:48 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-03 16:42 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-03 13:41 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-03 21:09 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-03 18:00 -0400
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Bill <Billaboard@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 00:22 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-03 21:01 -0400
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-03 23:11 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-04 14:45 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-04 12:27 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 11:59 -0800
stored maps (was: Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead?) "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-04 20:32 +0000
Re: stored maps The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 14:18 -0800
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 02:04 +0000
Re: stored maps The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 22:18 -0800
Re: stored maps "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 11:26 +0100
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 16:42 +0000
Re: stored maps "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:08 +0100
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 18:22 +0000
Re: stored maps "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:52 +0100
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:15 +0000
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 19:34 +0000
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:55 -0400
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 20:13 +0000
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:44 -0400
Re: stored maps "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 21:58 +0100
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 21:39 +0000
Re: stored maps "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-06 01:18 +0100
Re: stored maps The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 20:39 -0800
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-06 14:28 +0000
Re: stored maps The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 09:58 -0800
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-06 14:23 -0400
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-06 10:57 -0400
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-06 14:23 +0000
Re: stored maps "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-07 23:11 +0100
Re: stored maps Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-05 21:42 +0100
Re: stored maps "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 22:05 +0100
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 21:41 +0000
Re: stored maps Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-06 22:36 +0100
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-07 01:20 +0000
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-07 16:23 +0000
Re: stored maps Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-07 16:53 +0000
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-07 18:47 +0000
Re: stored maps The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-07 13:49 -0800
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 19:10 -0400
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-08 00:21 +0000
Re: stored maps The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-07 20:53 -0800
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:01 -0400
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-08 13:26 +0000
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 10:09 -0400
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:11 +0000
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 11:57 -0400
Re: stored maps 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-07 18:41 -0700
Re: stored maps The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-07 21:04 -0800
Re: stored maps Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-08 05:55 +0100
Re: stored maps Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-08 06:55 +0000
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-08 13:38 +0000
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 19:31 +0000
Re: stored maps "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 22:08 +0100
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-06 11:25 +0000
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 19:18 +0000
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:55 -0400
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 20:16 +0000
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:44 -0400
Re: stored maps Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-06 08:11 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-04 14:31 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 14:23 -0800
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 02:08 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-04 20:10 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 22:24 -0800
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 10:13 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 10:25 -0800
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:15 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:16 -0400
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:56 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 11:23 +0100
navigation (was: Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead?) "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 10:29 +0000
Re: navigation (was: Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead?) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:40 +0100
Re: navigation "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 14:47 +0000
Re: navigation "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:04 +0100
Re: navigation 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-05 09:34 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-05 13:08 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 11:20 +0100
navigation (was: Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead?) "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 10:34 +0000
Re: navigation (was: Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead?) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:51 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-05 09:34 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:21 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-05 12:11 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 20:19 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:16 -0400
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 20:28 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:55 -0400
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 20:21 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:44 -0400
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 22:11 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-03 20:25 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Tim <onelydad58@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 04:40 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-03 00:22 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-03 12:43 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-03 13:41 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-03 22:40 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 13:12 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-02 14:24 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Steve Oates <steveoates@tiscali.co.uk> - 2018-11-04 17:53 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-04 12:27 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2018-11-06 23:37 +0200
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-04 19:35 +0000
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 22:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <g4bq0lF1n36U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57215 |
On 05/11/2018 21.21, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message <051120181455345517%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
> <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:
>> In article <g4bjvdFgrhU1@mid.individual.net>, Carlos E. R.
>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> >> I also like features of the TomTom like telling me my exact speed,
>>> and
>>> >> what is the current limit, in case I forget.
>>> >
>>> > that's what the speedometer on the dashboard and the road signs on the
>>> > streets & highways are for.
>>>
>>> Speedometers here are calibrated some 5 Km/h over the real speed.
>>
>> so what?
>>
>> that's actually a good thing. you think you're driving over the psl,
>> but you actually aren't.
>>
>>> > if you need a device to tell you either of those and certainly both,
>>> > you should not be driving on public roads.
>>>
>>> Tell that to BMW and others. They have a camera trained on the road and
>>> a computer display on the dashboard with the last few signs displayed.
>>> Some cars have a HUD.
>>
>> that's the early stages of autonomy. soon, the vehicle will recognize
>> and take action based on that.
I hope so.
In some twenty or thirty years I will not be able to drive.
>> it's also not the same as a human driver relying on a gps device to
>> know what the signs say. anyone who can't see the signs unaided (other
>> than eyeglasses) and understand what they mean should not be driving.
>
> You are seeing a binary situation; real life is not as black-and-white.
> No, not _relying_ on the GPS, but you can have a momentary lapse of
> concentration - or, if you don't accept that, a lorry can obscure your
> view of the limit sign as you pass it. In those circumstances, I'd not
> object at all to my SatNav telling me I'm over the limit.
Absolutely. It is just an aide.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-03 20:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <prl3nk.8s8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57066 |
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: > > On 11/2/2018 12:42 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > > 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: > > > > >> Wandering my local Best Buy today I noticed only seven Android tablets > > >> (3 Digiland, 3 Samsung, and 1 Lenovo) on display. There were three times > > >> that number a few years ago. Makes me wonder if this article is true: > > >> > > >> https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/rise-and-fall-of-the-android-tablet/ > > > > > Maybe in normal shops, but I just had a quick look at one of our major > > > webshops and they had 78 differents ones. Even when guestimating 2 > > > colours per model, that's still some 40 different models. Prices from 80 > > > to 760 Euro (this webshop doesn't do the cheap stuff). > > > > Are they up to date? Are the manufacturers putting out new models every > > year as they used to? The ones I saw at Best Buy were Android version 7 > > or less, likely last years (or earlier) models. > > I haven't checked. I assume the more expensive ones - Samsung etc. - > are up-to-date. Maybe I'll have another look later. I could not search on Android version and looking at each product seperately takes too much effort, so I looked at a few at the low end of the price range. The lowest priced ones were 6.0 or 7.0, mostly 7.0. The cheapest major brand (Samsung) OTOH was 5.1. So the 'non-major' ones aren't doing bad at all. They might not get many updates, but neither did my Samsung tablets, one got one update, the other got none. [...]
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| From | Tim <onelydad58@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-03 04:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA98EF0DB3A5FCtimothybilyahoocom@69.16.179.28> |
| In reply to | #57065 |
123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote in news:prifb5$1qt1$2@gioia.aioe.org: > > Are they up to date? Are the manufacturers putting out new models > every year as they used to? The ones I saw at Best Buy were Android > version 7 or less, likely last years (or earlier) models. > I don't use a phone much, so I have a 'candy bar' pay by the minute phone. I was recently looking to see if I could find a reasonable cheap upgrade the ran on Android. I found one still on version 4, several on 5, most of them on 6, and a few on seven. And I can pretty much guarantee that they won't upgrade more than one version level, if that. >> I think the article's comparison of current Android tablets with >> future Chrome OS tablets is invalid. Many Android tablets are - >> partly or even mostly - used in a NON "cloud-heavy" [1] environment. > > > [1] See the 'Chromebook Tab 10' link in the article. > > IF it works as advertised it looks like the Chromebook Tab 10 will do > everything a current Android OS tablet will do plus some. What makes > it "cloud-heavy"? > Aside from a few basic apps and functions, the original Chromebook was designed to have enough softeare to be able to access the internet to load the rest of the OS, and to load all its apps from the net, thereby guaranteeing up to date software all the time. Since them, some more apps have found their way to live on the physical Chromebook, and more of the OS has taken up residence there as well. But to reach full functionality, the Chromebook still needs to be able to acces the 'net.
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-03 00:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <prjib9$ovv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57080 |
On 11/2/2018 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: > 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote >> Are they up to date? > I don't use a phone much, so I have a 'candy bar' pay by the minute > phone. I was recently looking to see if I could find a reasonable > cheap upgrade the ran on Android. We're talking many new Android TABLET models not coming out every year like they used to. I think that everyone agrees that there are many new Android phone models coming out every year. Using my local Best Buy as an example again, while the Android tablets take up 2 three foot wide shelves in the back of the store, the Android phones take up a whole front section with several demo tables. > Aside from a few basic apps and functions, the original Chromebook > was designed to have enough softeare to be able to access the > internet to load the rest of the OS, My Chromebook came with the OS loaded. But when first fired up it up it updated to the newest version...just like supported tablets. (Unfortunately the only supported tablets still being updated in my house run the Fire OS and iOs. None of my Android OS tablets are being updated. They still work fine though.) > and to load all its apps from the net, thereby guaranteeing up to > date software all the time. Since them, some more apps have found > their way to live on the physical Chromebook, and more of the OS has > taken up residence there as well. But to reach full functionality, > the Chromebook still needs to be able to acces the 'net. My Chromebook runs normally when offline, but like an Android tablet there's just not much to do with it...the way I use it anyway, YMMV. > I moved to android from the Palm Pilot world. Loved those old Palm Pilots. I had several over the years. It was nice to get 20 hours use out of a pair of AAAs. Read a lot of ebooks on the Peanut Reader too. Good old days... > About the only time I access any network is access something on my > home PC that for one reason or another I didn't feel needed to be on > my tablet. Like Usenet? It's a royal pain to type on a tablet so it's laptop time. > My tablet functions as my Day Planner, ebook reader... and occasional > movie player. Me too. And all my devices are synced so I can leave off on one and pick up on the next, or enter data on one and all update. No matter the OS. Very handy. > It goes with me everywhere, and since I live in a somehate urban > area, I can usually find an access point if I do need to access the > net. Carrying around a tablet everywhere?? I just squint at my phone... ;)
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-03 12:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <68e0bf-4n5.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #57065 |
On 02/11/2018 22.24, 123456789 wrote: > On 11/2/2018 12:42 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote: >> 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: > >>> Wandering my local Best Buy today I noticed only seven Android tablets >>> (3 Digiland, 3 Samsung, and 1 Lenovo) on display. There were three times >>> that number a few years ago. Makes me wonder if this article is true: >>> >>> https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/rise-and-fall-of-the-android-tablet/ >>> > >> Maybe in normal shops, but I just had a quick look at one of our major >> webshops and they had 78 differents ones. Even when guestimating 2 >> colours per model, that's still some 40 different models. Prices from 80 >> to 760 Euro (this webshop doesn't do the cheap stuff). > > Are they up to date? Are the manufacturers putting out new models every > year as they used to? The ones I saw at Best Buy were Android version 7 > or less, likely last years (or earlier) models. In the shop I usually go (PCComponentes) there are 280 models, of which 26 are Android 8 (Mostly Samsung, then Huawei and Woxter), 40 are IOS 10, 8 are Windows Pro 64 (other 8 non pro). At the other end, 20 are Android 4 (some Samsung Galaxy tab E (!), then Alcatel, Bq, Brigmtom, and Hyundai). I do not see "chromebook", but the search breaks with that term, shows 2815 items that are not the chromebook. A Lenovo Yoga is not a Chromebook, nor and HP Pavillion. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-03 13:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <prl159$1n33$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #57087 |
On 11/3/2018 4:43 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 02/11/2018 22.24, 123456789 wrote: > In the shop I usually go (PCComponentes) there are 280 models, Is that a big box store? If so I'm impressed. Nothing like that near me. However if that's an online store then it could be misleading as to what's in stock vs what's actually selling. I use local stores (like Best Buy) tablet displays as an indication of what tablet sales are like. Perhaps also a bit misleading I admit... > of which 26 are Android 8... Could they not update older model Android tablets to version 8.x? > At the other end, 20 are Android 4 (some Samsung Galaxy tab E (!), > then Alcatel, Bq, Brigmtom, and Hyundai). Interesting. Nothing I find here on the shelf goes all the way back to Android 4. > A Lenovo Yoga is not a Chromebook Agreed. I just happen to be writing this on a Yoga 920. Just gave away the old Yoga laptop to a grandkid. Perhaps it's the tablet business in general that's waning: IDC: Tablet shipments decline for 16th straight quarter: https://venturebeat.com/2018/11/02/idc-tablet-shipments-q3-2018/ >> What would most people use them [tablets] for without an Internet >> connection? > Watch movies stored on the devices, or on USB sticks, My Android tablets don't take USB sticks without an OTG cable. Do yours? Do you think most Android tablet owners even know about OTG adapters? > or on the local LAN, for instance. Do you think most people even watch movies on their tablet when at home? Personally I prefer my movies on the 55" flatscreen. YMMV. > Play games - yes, we had a family reunion at a place without internet > and the kids did just that. We try to get the kids AND ADULTS to ignore their electronics and actually interact with each other at family parties. Unfortunately we're often not that successful... 8-/
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-03 22:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <67h1bf-bm2.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #57105 |
On 03/11/2018 21.41, 123456789 wrote: > On 11/3/2018 4:43 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 02/11/2018 22.24, 123456789 wrote: > >> In the shop I usually go (PCComponentes) there are 280 models, > > Is that a big box store? If so I'm impressed. Nothing like that near me. > However if that's an online store then it could be misleading as to > what's in stock vs what's actually selling. It is an hybrid. It is a store that you can go to, but it is just a room with many terminals to do the purchases, with staff going around and helping. But nothing to touch. So you key the purchase on a computer or tablet, pay, and then go to the desk when they call you to pick the purchase. Same as if you do it online from home, but pick it instantly without extra for delivery. It is 50 Km from me. Or have it delivered anywhere in Spain. Possibly they sell more than Amazon, or so. If I filter by "on stock", the list goes down to 133 items, of which 14 have Android 8. Four are Huawei, the rest Samsung. A more traditional shop nearby has 111 tablets. 65 are Android, the rest IOS. I can not filter by any features. And browsing the list on several items the Android version is not listed. Size, CPU... I can sort by launch date. A Samsung Galaxy Tab A T580. Android 6. At the other end, Samsung TAB S4 T830, also Android 6 - wtf? Well, you can see why I don't buy my tablets there. > I use local stores (like Best Buy) tablet displays as an indication of > what tablet sales are like. Perhaps also a bit misleading I admit... > >> of which 26 are Android 8... > > Could they not update older model Android tablets to version 8.x? Sometimes, but that is not something they typically say in the descriptions. I would have to read them in detail. Sometimes they do say. >> At the other end, 20 are Android 4 (some Samsung Galaxy tab E (!), >> then Alcatel, Bq, Brigmtom, and Hyundai). > > Interesting. Nothing I find here on the shelf goes all the way back to > Android 4. They are cheap, I suppose. I don't know who would buy them... :-? They are one Samsungs galaxy Tab E (150€), and then six Brigmton, under 96€. On stock. If I untick "on stock", they have 20 items. From 227€ to 82€. >> A Lenovo Yoga is not a Chromebook > > Agreed. I just happen to be writing this on a Yoga 920. Just gave away > the old Yoga laptop to a grandkid. :-) > > Perhaps it's the tablet business in general that's waning: IDC: Tablet > shipments decline for 16th straight quarter: > > https://venturebeat.com/2018/11/02/idc-tablet-shipments-q3-2018/ Well, maybe people realize at last that you can not compute a lot without a computer ;-) > >>> What would most people use them [tablets] for without an Internet >>> connection? > >> Watch movies stored on the devices, or on USB sticks, > > My Android tablets don't take USB sticks without an OTG cable. Do yours? > Do you think most Android tablet owners even know about OTG adapters? No, mine needs the cable. But it came with it in the box, or had it from another device. I did not know the name OTG at first, but obviously it was for connecting USB sticks and such. And they use battery. > >> or on the local LAN, for instance. > > Do you think most people even watch movies on their tablet when at home? > Personally I prefer my movies on the 55" flatscreen. YMMV. Indeed, but I do not have a 55", LOL. Sometimes I watch a movie on bed. Or when not at home. Like on the waiting room at the garage, waiting for the mechanics to finish with my car :-) >> Play games - yes, we had a family reunion at a place without internet >> and the kids did just that. > > We try to get the kids AND ADULTS to ignore their electronics and > actually interact with each other at family parties. Unfortunately we're > often not that successful... 8-/ Oh, there was a lot of interaction. But sometimes they need to quiet them up for a while, so adults try to have a siesta or prepare the next lunch ;-) -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-02 13:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <prib3q$4mb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57030 |
On 11/01/2018 11:53 PM, 123456789 wrote:
> Wandering my local Best Buy today I noticed only seven Android tablets
> (3 Digiland, 3 Samsung, and 1 Lenovo) on display. There were three times
> that number a few years ago. Makes me wonder if this article is true:
>
> https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/rise-and-fall-of-the-android-tablet/
>
> (I didn't count the Amazon Fire tablet display as Android tablets though
> technically I suppose they are.)
They'll probably put them out for Black Friday and thereafter.
bfads.net shows a lot of BF ads well in advance -- some NOW!
--
Cheers, Bev
Horn broken. Watch for finger.
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-02 14:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <prifar$1qt1$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #57062 |
On 11/2/2018 1:12 PM, The Real Bev wrote: > On 11/01/2018 11:53 PM, 123456789 wrote: >> Wandering my local Best Buy today I noticed only seven Android >> tablets (3 Digiland, 3 Samsung, and 1 Lenovo) on display. There >> were three times that number a few years ago. Makes me wonder if >> this article is true: >> >> https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/rise-and-fall-of-the-android-tablet/ > They'll probably put them out for Black Friday and thereafter. > bfads.net shows a lot of BF ads well in advance -- some NOW! Yup. I bought my Digiland 7" Android tablet with the included keyboard and case for $29 US two years ago. Still works great. Trouble is they're still selling the exact same model two years later...for $20 more... 8-O
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| From | Steve Oates <steveoates@tiscali.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-11-04 17:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <prnbmg$16n8$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #57030 |
On 02/11/18 06:53, 123456789 wrote: > Wandering my local Best Buy today I noticed only seven Android tablets > (3 Digiland, 3 Samsung, and 1 Lenovo) on display. There were three times > that number a few years ago. Makes me wonder if this article is true: > > https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/rise-and-fall-of-the-android-tablet/ > > (I didn't count the Amazon Fire tablet display as Android tablets though > technically I suppose they are.) I'm still getting some use out of a Nexus 7 (2012version) !!
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-04 12:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <prnh7j$1gh3$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #57128 |
On 11/4/2018 10:53 AM, Steve Oates wrote: > I'm still getting some use out of a Nexus 7 (2012version) !! I had both the 2012 and 2013 Nexus 7 models in my device littered past. As I recall the 2013 model was the first wireless charging device I ever owned. It charged very very slowly, but charge it did. I missed the SD card slot though. And even though it had OTG capability it wasn't the same (IMO). All in all I have fond memories of those tablets.
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| From | Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> |
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| Date | 2018-11-06 23:37 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <vg3bm7199bb.fsf@coffee.modeemi.fi> |
| In reply to | #57129 |
123456789 <12345@12345.com> writes: > On 11/4/2018 10:53 AM, Steve Oates wrote: > >> I'm still getting some use out of a Nexus 7 (2012version) !! > > I had both the 2012 and 2013 Nexus 7 models in my device littered past. > As I recall the 2013 model was the first wireless charging device I ever > owned. It charged very very slowly, but charge it did. I missed the SD > card slot though. And even though it had OTG capability it wasn't the > same (IMO). All in all I have fond memories of those tablets. Yeah, I'm still kicking myself for dropping my 2013 N7 about a year ago. Display cracked which isn't that bad since it's just in one corner. Unfortunately touch doesn't work in that area either and that's a pain. Murphy's law guarantees you need to tap in the area where touch doesn't work. I bought a POS Huawei Mediapad T1 without realizing the newer T3 was available for not much more. My wife has a Mediapad M3 and it's a nice premium-like device but not that cheap. Way cheaper than Samsung's S3 or S4 tablets though.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-11-04 19:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <g49007Fd1t2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57128 |
Steve Oates wrote: > I'm still getting some use out of a Nexus 7 (2012version) !! I'm still getting one use out of mine (streaming internet radio to a bluetooth speaker) but it is rather creaky, I suspect if I didn't have the dock for it, it would be gathering dust Android devices must age in "dog years" ...
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