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  Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-17 03:30 +0000
    Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-17 04:07 +0000
    Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-09-17 00:34 -0400
    Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 15:14 +0000
      Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? BK@Onramp.net - 2018-09-19 12:20 -0500
        Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-22 17:14 +0000
          Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-22 13:19 -0400
            Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-22 17:52 +0000
              Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-22 14:41 -0400
                Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-23 00:15 +0000
          Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2018-09-23 06:34 +0200
            Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-23 16:49 +1200
      Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2018-09-24 20:39 -0400
        Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "wasbit" <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-25 10:36 +0100
          Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-09-25 16:11 +0000
            Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2018-09-25 15:23 -0400
              Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-09-25 19:29 +0000
                Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 21:33 +0000
                  Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-25 19:02 -0400
              Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-09-25 13:08 -0700
                Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 21:43 +0000
            Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 21:29 +0000
              Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-09-26 01:42 +0000
        Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 21:19 +0000

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#55933 — Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally?

On 16 Sep 2018 14:48:03 GMT, Ant wrote:

>>> > AirDrop seems to work with a quick test. I had to enable BlueTooth to 
>>> > make it work. I haven't tried with all the photos yet.
>>> 
>>> Hmm. iPhone 6+'s Photos' AirDrop app crashes when I try to copy 392 photos 
>>> after preparing. It only can do several photos, but not all 392. I already 
>>> powered cycled both devices to see if that help. Nope! :(
> 
>> that's odd. try smaller batches.
> 
> Yeah, smaller batches are tedious. Ugh. I was hoping to do all in one shot. 
> I wonder if anyone else has this problem or just me.

Hi Ant,
While nospam constantly bullshits, I have done everything I talk about.
*HINT: Almost nobody on this planet can run the six tests I just ran!*

They *pretend* they can - but each time they post, they prove they can't!

So that we can learn, I just ran six quick speed tests for you to compare.
Even though I'm on a very old desktop (from Win7 days), it is so easy.

Using the iOS iPad or Android device timer app as a stopwatch...
1. On Windows, I copied a photo 400 times, named ant001.jpg to ant400.jpg
   Each photo = 4,287,961 bytes   Entire directory = 1.7 GB
2. I slid those 400 files over USB from that Windows filesystem to Android
   Time = 18 minutes, 21 seconds
x. I slid those 400 files over USB from that Windows filesystem to iOS
   Time = 1 minute, 42 seconds
3. I slid those 400 files over USB from Android to the Windows filesystem
   Time = 2 minutes, 20 seconds
x. I slid those 400 files over USB from iOS to the Windows filesystem
   Time = 1 minute, 55 seconds
5. I slid those 400 files over USB from iOS to Android
   Time = 11 minutes, 49 seconds
4. I slid those 400 files over USB from Android to iOS
   Time = 3 minutes, 5 seconds

Almost nobody on the planet can run these tests I just ran for you.
HINT: They *imagine* they can run them - but when they post, it's easy to
see from what they post that they fall into the DK scale of assessing their
own skills wrong.

They *can't* run these six tests!
(They don't know how.)

But since nospam assures you the best way is AirDrop, then just test it.

Let us know how long AirDrop takes to run the same easy 6 tests on the Mac.

-- 
I'll post the screenshots separately as that takes more time than anything.

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#55934

On 17 Sep 2018 03:30:12 GMT, Arlen Holder wrote:

> But since nospam assures you the best way is AirDrop, then just test it.
> 
> Let us know how long AirDrop takes to run the same easy 6 tests on the Mac.

Bear in mind that all the iOS tests were to and from the DCIM directory of
iOS (which almost nobody knows how to make writeable, it seems).

They whoosh on the key points of the inherent beauty of this method.

There was no "middleman" app, like those that nospam advocates.

The six tests were so simple, people like nospam can't imagine it being
that easy.

I just selected the 400 photos, and slid them over.
- Either I slid them from Windows or Android file systems to iOS DCIM.
- Or I slid them from the iOS DCIM folder to Android or Windows filesystem.

It was _that_ easy to do all six test.

HINT: Editing the screenshots will be harder than moving files.
Yet, almost nobody on this planet can run those six tests.
Why? Because they _think_ they understand the steps - but they don't.

I can tell they don't by what they write (e.g., read anything Diesel said,
for example, which proves he doesn't comprehend the steps - but he "thinks"
he comprehends them - which - you have to admit - is kind of funny because
he claims everyone knows them... hehhehheh .. and yet ... he doesn't).

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#55935

Arlen Holder wrote:

> 
> Almost nobody on the planet can run these tests I just ran for you.

Can you explain to me, Mr. Raging Troll, why a
thread that was running quite nicely in

    misc.phone.mobile.iphone

is now crossposted to

    alt.os.linux
    alt.comp.os.windows-10
    misc.phone.mobile.iphone
    comp.sys.mac.system
    comp.sys.mac.apps
    comp.mobile.android

Are you looking for an AUK nomination or what ?

Trim the crossposts!!!

    Paul

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#55960

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 03:30:12 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

> x. I slid those 400 files over USB from iOS to the Windows filesystem
>    Time = 1 minute, 55 seconds

If anyone has a *faster* system (my equipment is ancient and it's still
faster than anything you can actually *do* and prove you did), let me know.

1 minute 55 seconds from the Windows file system to iOS' DCIM folders:
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>

If anyone has a more *universal* system (it works with iOS, Android,
Windows, and Linux file systems, no matter who owns them and no matter the
"ID") system, let me know.

If someone has a more *free* system in addition (there is zero software
added to the native operating systems), let me know.

If someone has a *simpler* system (you just select and slide) let me know.

If you can't come up with a faster, freeer, simpler, and more universal
system, and yet, if you claim that the method is "obvious", then (a) you're
full of shit, and (b) let me know and I'll test your "better" system.

HINT: Everyone who said it was "obvious" already proved they can't do it.

Meanwhile, it takes two minutes for me to transfer 400 photos, where I can
easily transfer scores of Gigabytes of movie files as I did in the OP.

From anywhere to anywhere else. Sans a shred of additional software.

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#55963

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:14:11 -0000 (UTC), "Arlen H. Holder"
<arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 03:30:12 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

Why are you here where you're unwanted and constantly made the fool?
A nym change doesn't alter your idiocy.

PLONK !

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#56007

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:20:07 -0500, BK@Onramp.net wrote:

> Why are you here where you're unwanted and constantly made the fool?
> A nym change doesn't alter your idiocy.

Hehhehheh ... one of the three dumbest iOS users calling an adult, a fool.

You have to admit, the three dumbest of iOS users are all pretty funny:
a. Lewis
b. BK@OnRamp
c. Jolly Roger

Meanwhile... moving forward to give all users complete freedom to access
their files for free no matter what platform they are on (Mac, Linux, Windows, 
iOS, or Android), we likely solved the problem (AFAIK) with the compilation 
below.

Thanks to the expert advice of Wolffan on the Mac groups, and Paul, 
Mike Easter, and Aragorn on the Linux group.

****************************************************************************
How to read & write to HFS+ partitions by booting to Ubuntu (on the Mac)
    !!!WIP ... Untested! ... Preliminary - for review!!!

Please improve so that everyone benefits from every action by each of us.
****************************************************************************
============================================================================
Your choice (works both ways):
a. Journaling disabled
b. Journaling enabled
============================================================================
Read/Write access to a non-journaled HFS+ drive.

1. Plug in the external HFS+ non-journeled drive into Ubuntu.
2. Ubuntu mounts the HFS+ drive automatically as read-only.
   $ mount -l 
     Your HFS+ device should show up as /dev/sdx 
   If the drive doesn't automatically mount, mount the HFS+ drive:
   $ sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdx# /media/mntpoint
3. Click the eject button in file explorer to unmount the drive.
4. Install hfsprogs.
   $ sudo apt-get install hfsprogs
5. Optional: Check the drive.
   $ sudo fsck.hfsplus /dev/sdXY 
6. Click on the drive in the file explorer to remount the drive as r/w:
   Note: To manually remount the HFS+ drive:
   $ sudo mount -t hfsplus -o remount,force,rw /dev/sdx# /mount/point
============================================================================
Read/Write access to a journaled HFS+ drive.

1. Plug in the external HFS+ non-journeled drive into Ubuntu.
2. Ubuntu mounts the HFS+ drive automatically as read-only.
   $ mount -l 
     Your HFS+ device should show up as /dev/sdx 
   If the drive doesn't automatically mount, mount the HFS+ drive:
   $ sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdx# /media/mntpoint
3. Click the eject button in file explorer to unmount the drive.
4. Install hfsprogs.
   $ sudo apt-get install hfsprogs
5. Optional: Check the drive.
   $ sudo fsck.hfsplus -f /dev/sdXY 
6. Click on the drive in the file explorer to remount the drive as r/w:
   Note: To manually remount the HFS+ drive:
   $ sudo mount -t hfsplus -o remount,force,rw /dev/sdx# /mount/point
============================================================================
To read/write on the Mac users' home folder, simply match the User ID:

1. On OS/X, check your UID (typically the default is UID 501):
   OS/X: System Preferences > your username > Advanced Options

2. Boot into Ubuntu & add a temp user of the same UID as found above:
   $ sudo useradd -d /home/tempuser -m -s /bin/bash -G admin tempuser
   $ sudo passwd tempuser
   $ sudo usermod --uid 501 yourusername
   $ sudo chown -R 501:yourusername /home/yourusername

   You can now read & write to both your Mac and Linux user's home folder, 
   no matter which OS you're logged into.

3. Optionally, add the new user of UID 501 to the Ubuntu login screen:
   By default, Ubuntu doesn't list users of UID less than 1000 on the 
   login screen, where this command changes that default value:

   $ gksudo gedit /etc/login.defs 
     Simply change the value of UID_MIN from 1000 to 501
============================================================================
To turn off HFS+ journaling from the Mac

1. Boot into OS X and fire up the Disk Utility. 
2. Click on your HFS partition, hold the Option key, and click File
3. A new option to Disable Journaling will come up in the menu. 
4. When you reboot to Linux, it will mount the HFS+ drive r/w automatically
============================================================================
To turn off HFS+ journaling from within Ubuntu

1. Compile disable_journal.c to disable_journal.out
   $ gcc -o disable_journal disable_journal.c
2. Run the program to disable journaling.
   $ sudo ./disable_journal.out /dev/sdXX
   where /dev/sdXX is the partition you wish to mount.
3. Then mount the HFS+ drive using the following:
   $ sudo mount -t hfsplus -o rw,user /dev/sdXX /media/hfspart

 --- cut here for disable_journal.c ---
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/mman.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <byteswap.h>



int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
	int fd = open(argv[1], O_RDWR);
	if(fd < 0) {
		perror("open");
		return -1;
	}
	
	unsigned char *buffer = (unsigned char *)mmap(NULL, 2048, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0);
	if(buffer == (unsigned char*)0xffffffff) {
		perror("mmap");
		return -1;
	}
	
	if((buffer[1024] != 'H') && (buffer[1025] != '+')) {
		fprintf(stderr, "%s: HFS+ signature not found -- aborting.\n", argv[0]);
		return -1;
	}
	
	unsigned long attributes = *(unsigned long *)(&buffer[1028]);
	attributes = bswap_32(attributes);
	printf("attributes = 0x%8.8lx\n", attributes);
	
	if(!(attributes & 0x00002000)) {
		printf("kHFSVolumeJournaledBit not currently set in the volume attributes field.\n");
	}
	
	attributes &= 0xffffdfff;
	attributes = bswap_32(attributes);
	*(unsigned long *)(&buffer[1028]) = attributes;
	
	buffer[1032] = '1';
	buffer[1033] = '0';
	buffer[1034] = '.';
	buffer[1035] = '0';
	
	buffer[1036] = 0;
	buffer[1037] = 0;
	buffer[1038] = 0;
	buffer[1039] = 0;
	
	printf("journal has been disabled.\n");
	return 0;
}
 --- cut here for disable_journal.c ---
============================================================================
For commercial solutions:
1. Paragon has an extension for full read/write access to NTFS & HFS+ volumes
   <https://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-linux-professional/>
   NOTE: They have a freeware version available for non-commercial use.

2. Paragon has an add-on extension for full APFS (read-write access)
   <https://www.paragon-software.com/business/apfs-linux/>
============================================================================
REFERENCES (in alphabetical order):
 <http://refit.sourceforge.net/info/boot_process.html>
 <https://askubuntu.com/questions/332315/how-to-read-and-write-hfs-journaled-external-hdd-in-ubuntu-without-access-to-os>
 <https://jaysonlorenzen.wordpress.com/2010/09/13/linux-unable-to-write-to-non-journaled-hfsplus-drive/>
 <https://lifehacker.com/5702815/the-complete-guide-to-sharing-your-data-across-multiple-operating-systems>
 <https://lifewire.com/dual-boot-linux-and-mac-os-4125733>
 <https://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write>
 <https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1420673>
============================================================================

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#56008

In article <po5tae$hnh$1@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder
<arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:

> How to read & write to HFS+ partitions by booting to Ubuntu (on the Mac)
>     !!!WIP ... Untested! ... Preliminary - for review!!!

what's hilarious is you're too stupid to comprehend why this will not
work.

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#56009

On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 13:19:46 -0400, nospam wrote:

> what's hilarious is you're too stupid to comprehend why this will not
> work.

Hehhehheh ... I had a bet that you would be the *first* person to make a
disparaging remark about how Apple *hid* the settings on the latest OS.

Hehhehheh ... it's so easy to read you nospam ... because you're a child.

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#56010

In article <po5vhm$kn1$1@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder
<arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:

> 
> > what's hilarious is you're too stupid to comprehend why this will not
> > work.
> 
> Hehhehheh ... I had a bet that you would be the *first* person to make a
> disparaging remark about how Apple *hid* the settings on the latest OS.

nothing is hidden.

you simply haven't any clue what you're doing.

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#56011

In message <220920181441591324%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <po5vhm$kn1$1@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder
> <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:

>> 
>> > what's hilarious is you're too stupid to comprehend why this will not
>> > work.
>> 
>> Hehhehheh ... I had a bet that you would be the *first* person to make a
>> disparaging remark about how Apple *hid* the settings on the latest OS.

> nothing is hidden.

> you simply haven't any clue what you're doing.

I know this is a controversial statement, but I think it is possible that
the Troll is Donald Trump.

I mean, think about it, he can't say anything without lying his ass off
and he's so fucking stupid you are shocked he can manage to walk upright.

Fuck off Donny, you aren't wanted here.

-- 
Generalizations are always inaccurate.

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#56015

In article <po5tae$hnh$1@news.mixmin.net>,
 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:20:07 -0500, BK@Onramp.net wrote:
> 
> > Why are you here where you're unwanted and constantly made the fool?
> > A nym change doesn't alter your idiocy.
> 
> Hehhehheh ... one of the three dumbest iOS users calling an adult, a fool.

why should I need a Linux machine and an external HFS+ disk?

Every Mac comes with at least 2 capable programs to copy photos from an 
iDevice to that Mac: Photos and Image Capture.

No fancy.

Just done.

-- 
MacAndreas Rutishauser, <http://www.MacAndreas.ch> 
EDV-Dienstleistungen, Hard- und Software, Internet und Netzwerk
Beratung, Unterstuetzung und Schulung
<mailto:andreas@MacAndreas.ch>, Fon: 044 / 721 36 47

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#56016

On 2018-09-23 04:34:35 +0000, Andreas Rutishauser said:
> In article <po5tae$hnh$1@news.mixmin.net>,
>  "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:20:07 -0500, BK@Onramp.net wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why are you here where you're unwanted and constantly made the fool?
>>> A nym change doesn't alter your idiocy.
>> 
>> Hehhehheh ... one of the three dumbest iOS users calling an adult, a fool.
> 
> why should I need a Linux machine and an external HFS+ disk?
> 
> Every Mac comes with at least 2 capable programs to copy photos from an
> iDevice to that Mac: Photos and Image Capture.
> 
> No fancy.
> 
> Just done.

Please do not confuse the trolls by posting actual facts.

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#56018

On 9/19/18 11:14 AM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 03:30:12 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:
> 
>> x. I slid those 400 files over USB from iOS to the Windows filesystem
>>     Time = 1 minute, 55 seconds
> 
> If anyone has a *faster* system (my equipment is ancient and it's still
> faster than anything you can actually *do* and prove you did), let me know.
> 
> 1 minute 55 seconds from the Windows file system to iOS' DCIM folders:
>   <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>
> 
> If anyone has a more *universal* system (it works with iOS, Android,
> Windows, and Linux file systems, no matter who owns them and no matter the
> "ID") system, let me know.
> 
> If someone has a more *free* system in addition (there is zero software
> added to the native operating systems), let me know.
> 
> If someone has a *simpler* system (you just select and slide) let me know.
> 
> If you can't come up with a faster, freeer, simpler, and more universal
> system, and yet, if you claim that the method is "obvious", then (a) you're
> full of shit, and (b) let me know and I'll test your "better" system.
> 
> HINT: Everyone who said it was "obvious" already proved they can't do it.
> 
> Meanwhile, it takes two minutes for me to transfer 400 photos, where I can
> easily transfer scores of Gigabytes of movie files as I did in the OP.
> 
>  From anywhere to anywhere else. Sans a shred of additional software.

All this great, but the 90% of the computer users don't care about this. 
My 2 co-workers and I support around 800 computers in house 200 in the 
field, Windows and Mac. The users just want to do everything the 
simplest way, without leaving their browser, Word, or email application, 
let alone having to restart their computer or run virtual software. We 
have people who don't understand that a simple restart could easily take 
care of many of their small problems.

I work in the real world and we simply don't have time to run around and 
transfer images and files for people. We teach them the skills they need 
to use their computers in the environment they work in. What they use or 
do at home is not our concern.

I am glad you have this hobby of pointing out the shortcomings of people 
using Apple products, but I see people everyday that are steadfast in 
their love and advocacy of the Windows and Android utilizing devices. I 
figure whatever works for them, meets their needs, and they are 
comfortable using is great for me and my coworkers in IT.

Earlier, in another thread, you asked me what I had to contribute and to 
try to prove you wrong. First, whatever I said would have been shot down 
(as you will probably do with this post). Second, I beleive you are out 
to prove everyone else wrong and you want to pound your own chest to 
prove intelligence, experience, and knowledge. We each contribute to 
society what we can. Some folks want to just do their job as best they 
can and others want to be King of the Hill. I have received some good 
tips and knowledge on USENET that I can use in life and my job. I am 
confident I will get more in the future.

I wish you the best in your quest to belittle many here and Mac users in 
general.

One last thing, which claw hammer is the best, curved claw or straight 
claw? My answer, what you have and what job you are using it for. I have 
both and use them on a regular basis.

YK

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#56019

"YK" <xxxxx@dialme.com> wrote in message 
news:poc048$2ccb$1@adenine.netfront.net...
> On 9/19/18 11:14 AM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
> snip <
>
> All this great, but the 90% of the computer users don't care about this. 
> My 2 co-workers and I support around 800 computers in house 200 in the 
> field, Windows and Mac. The users just want to do everything the simplest 
> way, without leaving their browser, Word, or email application, let alone 
> having to restart their computer or run virtual software. We have people 
> who don't understand that a simple restart could easily take care of many 
> of their small problems.
>
> I work in the real world and we simply don't have time to run around and 
> transfer images and files for people. We teach them the skills they need 
> to use their computers in the environment they work in. What they use or 
> do at home is not our concern.
>
> I am glad you have this hobby of pointing out the shortcomings of people 
> using Apple products, but I see people everyday that are steadfast in 
> their love and advocacy of the Windows and Android utilizing devices. I 
> figure whatever works for them, meets their needs, and they are 
> comfortable using is great for me and my coworkers in IT.
>
> Earlier, in another thread, you asked me what I had to contribute and to 
> try to prove you wrong. First, whatever I said would have been shot down 
> (as you will probably do with this post). Second, I beleive you are out to 
> prove everyone else wrong and you want to pound your own chest to prove 
> intelligence, experience, and knowledge. We each contribute to society 
> what we can. Some folks want to just do their job as best they can and 
> others want to be King of the Hill. I have received some good tips and 
> knowledge on USENET that I can use in life and my job. I am confident I 
> will get more in the future.
>
> I wish you the best in your quest to belittle many here and Mac users in 
> general.
>
> One last thing, which claw hammer is the best, curved claw or straight 
> claw? My answer, what you have and what job you are using it for. I have 
> both and use them on a regular basis.
>

Hooray for some common sense.

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Regards
wasbit 

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#56020

On 2018-09-25, wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "YK" <xxxxx@dialme.com> wrote in message 
> news:poc048$2ccb$1@adenine.netfront.net...
>> On 9/19/18 11:14 AM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
>> snip <
>>
>> All this great, but the 90% of the computer users don't care about this. 
>> My 2 co-workers and I support around 800 computers in house 200 in the 
>> field, Windows and Mac. The users just want to do everything the simplest 
>> way, without leaving their browser, Word, or email application, let alone 
>> having to restart their computer or run virtual software. We have people 
>> who don't understand that a simple restart could easily take care of many 
>> of their small problems.
>>
>> I work in the real world and we simply don't have time to run around and 
>> transfer images and files for people. We teach them the skills they need 
>> to use their computers in the environment they work in. What they use or 
>> do at home is not our concern.
>>
>> I am glad you have this hobby of pointing out the shortcomings of people 
>> using Apple products, but I see people everyday that are steadfast in 
>> their love and advocacy of the Windows and Android utilizing devices. I 
>> figure whatever works for them, meets their needs, and they are 
>> comfortable using is great for me and my coworkers in IT.
>>
>> Earlier, in another thread, you asked me what I had to contribute and to 
>> try to prove you wrong. First, whatever I said would have been shot down 
>> (as you will probably do with this post). Second, I beleive you are out to 
>> prove everyone else wrong and you want to pound your own chest to prove 
>> intelligence, experience, and knowledge. We each contribute to society 
>> what we can. Some folks want to just do their job as best they can and 
>> others want to be King of the Hill. I have received some good tips and 
>> knowledge on USENET that I can use in life and my job. I am confident I 
>> will get more in the future.
>>
>> I wish you the best in your quest to belittle many here and Mac users in 
>> general.
>>
>> One last thing, which claw hammer is the best, curved claw or straight 
>> claw? My answer, what you have and what job you are using it for. I have 
>> both and use them on a regular basis.
>
> Hooray for some common sense.

Here's one of THE simplest ways to copy photos from an iOS device to any
Mac:

1. Connect the iOS device to the Mac with its USB cable.
2. On the Mac, open /Applications/Image Capture.
3. Select the iOS device in the sidebar.
4. Click Import and choose/create a folder for the photos.

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#56025

On 9/25/18 12:11 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2018-09-25, wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "YK" <xxxxx@dialme.com> wrote in message
>> news:poc048$2ccb$1@adenine.netfront.net...
>>> On 9/19/18 11:14 AM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
>>> snip <
>>>
>>> All this great, but the 90% of the computer users don't care about this.
>>> My 2 co-workers and I support around 800 computers in house 200 in the
>>> field, Windows and Mac. The users just want to do everything the simplest
>>> way, without leaving their browser, Word, or email application, let alone
>>> having to restart their computer or run virtual software. We have people
>>> who don't understand that a simple restart could easily take care of many
>>> of their small problems.
>>>
>>> I work in the real world and we simply don't have time to run around and
>>> transfer images and files for people. We teach them the skills they need
>>> to use their computers in the environment they work in. What they use or
>>> do at home is not our concern.
>>>
>>> I am glad you have this hobby of pointing out the shortcomings of people
>>> using Apple products, but I see people everyday that are steadfast in
>>> their love and advocacy of the Windows and Android utilizing devices. I
>>> figure whatever works for them, meets their needs, and they are
>>> comfortable using is great for me and my coworkers in IT.
>>>
>>> Earlier, in another thread, you asked me what I had to contribute and to
>>> try to prove you wrong. First, whatever I said would have been shot down
>>> (as you will probably do with this post). Second, I beleive you are out to
>>> prove everyone else wrong and you want to pound your own chest to prove
>>> intelligence, experience, and knowledge. We each contribute to society
>>> what we can. Some folks want to just do their job as best they can and
>>> others want to be King of the Hill. I have received some good tips and
>>> knowledge on USENET that I can use in life and my job. I am confident I
>>> will get more in the future.
>>>
>>> I wish you the best in your quest to belittle many here and Mac users in
>>> general.
>>>
>>> One last thing, which claw hammer is the best, curved claw or straight
>>> claw? My answer, what you have and what job you are using it for. I have
>>> both and use them on a regular basis.
>>
>> Hooray for some common sense.
> 
> Here's one of THE simplest ways to copy photos from an iOS device to any
> Mac:
> 
> 1. Connect the iOS device to the Mac with its USB cable.
> 2. On the Mac, open /Applications/Image Capture.
> 3. Select the iOS device in the sidebar.
> 4. Click Import and choose/create a folder for the photos.

I know that. I have assisted others do it all the time. Now if I can 
just get him to help me get my images off the SD card in my camera 
without removing it from the camera, without going wireless.

That's satire, Arlen. People with an actual sense of humor will get it.

YK

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#56026

On 2018-09-25, YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> wrote:
> On 9/25/18 12:11 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2018-09-25, wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hooray for some common sense.
>> 
>> Here's one of THE simplest ways to copy photos from an iOS device to any
>> Mac:
>> 
>> 1. Connect the iOS device to the Mac with its USB cable.
>> 2. On the Mac, open /Applications/Image Capture.
>> 3. Select the iOS device in the sidebar.
>> 4. Click Import and choose/create a folder for the photos.
>
> I know that. 

I figured you would. It's common knowledge among Mac users, really.
Nothing new at all (except maybe to the resident Apple-hating man-shild
troll). : )

> I have assisted others do it all the time. Now if I can 
> just get him to help me get my images off the SD card in my camera 
> without removing it from the camera, without going wireless.

Yeahbut... It's not a "real" solution unless it includes booting into
Linux, dontchaknow!

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#56031

On 25 Sep 2018 19:29:21 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> I figured you would. It's common knowledge among Mac users, really.
> Nothing new at all (except maybe to the resident Apple-hating man-shild
> troll). : )

What's funny, and which the user YK should take note, is that the moment we
speak facts, the user Jolly Roger instantly says that only Apple-hating
people speak facts.

You see, facts are the nemesis of people like you, Jolly Roger.

The fact remains that Ant has been spectacularly unsuccessful, hence, it's
pretty clear that you, Jolly Roger, are simply playing your incessant
games.

Remember, Ant may not own the devices he's using, so you can't assume
_anything_ about the Apple ID. Keep that in mind when you play your silly
games, Jolly Roger.

The fact remains that Ant has been spectacularly unsuccessful after 3 weeks
(elapsed time) of trying.

Do you dispute this fact Jolly Roger?

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#56035

In article <poe9ih$mpi$1@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen H. Holder
<arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:

> Remember, Ant may not own the devices he's using, so you can't assume
> _anything_ about the Apple ID. Keep that in mind when you play your silly
> games, Jolly Roger.

an apple id is irrelevant for copying photos.

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#56027

On Sep 25, 2018, YK wrote
(in article<6a98c2d0-b8b0-39b3-c246-2b273b9ab470@dialme.com>):

> On 9/25/18 12:11 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> > On 2018-09-25, wasbit<wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com>  wrote:
> > > "YK" <xxxxx@dialme.com>  wrote in message
> > > news:poc048$2ccb$1@adenine.netfront.net...
> > > > On 9/19/18 11:14 AM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
> > > > snip <
> > > >
> > > > All this great, but the 90% of the computer users don't care about this.
> > > > My 2 co-workers and I support around 800 computers in house 200 in the
> > > > field, Windows and Mac. The users just want to do everything the simplest
> > > > way, without leaving their browser, Word, or email application, let alone
> > > > having to restart their computer or run virtual software. We have people
> > > > who don't understand that a simple restart could easily take care of many
> > > > of their small problems.
> > > >
> > > > I work in the real world and we simply don't have time to run around and
> > > > transfer images and files for people. We teach them the skills they need
> > > > to use their computers in the environment they work in. What they use or
> > > > do at home is not our concern.
> > > >
> > > > I am glad you have this hobby of pointing out the shortcomings of people
> > > > using Apple products, but I see people everyday that are steadfast in
> > > > their love and advocacy of the Windows and Android utilizing devices. I
> > > > figure whatever works for them, meets their needs, and they are
> > > > comfortable using is great for me and my coworkers in IT.
> > > >
> > > > Earlier, in another thread, you asked me what I had to contribute and to
> > > > try to prove you wrong. First, whatever I said would have been shot down
> > > > (as you will probably do with this post). Second, I beleive you are out to
> > > > prove everyone else wrong and you want to pound your own chest to prove
> > > > intelligence, experience, and knowledge. We each contribute to society
> > > > what we can. Some folks want to just do their job as best they can and
> > > > others want to be King of the Hill. I have received some good tips and
> > > > knowledge on USENET that I can use in life and my job. I am confident I
> > > > will get more in the future.
> > > >
> > > > I wish you the best in your quest to belittle many here and Mac users in
> > > > general.
> > > >
> > > > One last thing, which claw hammer is the best, curved claw or straight
> > > > claw? My answer, what you have and what job you are using it for. I have
> > > > both and use them on a regular basis.
> > >
> > > Hooray for some common sense.
> >
> > Here's one of THE simplest ways to copy photos from an iOS device to any
> > Mac:
> >
> > 1. Connect the iOS device to the Mac with its USB cable.
> > 2. On the Mac, open /Applications/Image Capture.
> > 3. Select the iOS device in the sidebar.
> > 4. Click Import and choose/create a folder for the photos.
>
> I know that. I have assisted others do it all the time. Now if I can
> just get him to help me get my images off the SD card in my camera
> without removing it from the camera, without going wireless.

Oh the irony!!
>
> That's satire, Arlen. People with an actual sense of humor will get it.

-- 
Regards,
Savageduck

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