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  Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 05:04 +0000
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 15:57 +1000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 17:15 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:50 +1000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier  <HoraceAlgier@nowhere.com> - 2016-11-01 01:38 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 22:33 -0400
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 02:38 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 22:49 -0400
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-01 04:15 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 16:17 +1100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:55 +0000
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 00:48 +0000
                            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 12:33 +1100
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 06:56 +0100
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 00:48 +0000
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 12:33 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 02:23 +0000
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 13:41 +1100
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-01 12:25 -0400
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? John Carter <me@mymailsvr.org> - 2016-11-12 05:16 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 14:49 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:03 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 14:30 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:02 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-01 12:25 -0400
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 03:21 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 14:51 +1100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 06:58 +0100
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 17:00 +1100
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 07:09 +0100
                            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Hankat" <hyes342@nospam.com> - 2016-11-04 17:19 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 03:21 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 14:46 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-04 00:15 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 02:34 +0000
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-04 23:57 -0400
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 12:54 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 02:34 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 16:20 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-05 07:10 +0100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 17:54 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-11-05 16:49 -0500
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 06:17 +0100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:35 +1100
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 09:42 +0100
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 21:01 +1100
                            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 11:57 +0100
                              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 07:23 +1100
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-11-07 08:00 +0000
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-07 21:48 +0100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:05 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 14:26 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:53 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 15:54 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:33 +0000
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 15:51 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 05:11 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:32 +1100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:55 +0000
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 09:12 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 05:19 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:33 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:54 +0000
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 09:11 +1100
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-07 19:23 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-10 19:29 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 00:27 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-11 15:26 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-09-08 09:13 +1200
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-07 22:21 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:52 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:34 +1000
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-07 08:48 -0400
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2016-09-07 10:46 -0400
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:50 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:32 +1000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:02 +1000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 13:00 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 17:50 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:46 +1000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-11 11:23 -0400
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-11 14:55 -0400
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
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                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 10:03 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 20:24 +1000
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                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:57 +1000
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#35613

In article <nvgurl$155t$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Algeria Horan
<algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote:

> You guys are all fooled by Apple M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G, who turn commodities,
> into specialty items, in your *mind* only!
> 
> Besides only working inside the walled garden, Airdrop ad hoc services are
> nothing special, and Apple Pay isn't either, where Android not only has
> everything that Apple has by way of functionality, but CHOICES too!

wrong

> For example, here's a comparison of the FUNCTIONALITY between Apple,
> Android, and Samsung Pay payment systems (which are all the same
> functionality):
>
> http://www.androidauthority.com/android-pay-vs-apple-pay-vs-samsung-pay-688041
> /

you might actually want to read what you link before you link it.

it states that apple pay has the largest number of supported banks and
available in more countries. 

apple pay is also more secure than android pay and certainly *much*
more secure than samsung pay, which spoofs msd so therefore not
encrypted and not secure.

chase supported apple pay two *years* ago, while they just started
supporting android pay this past september. 

> airdrop, == Android has plenty of ad hoc services such as ShareIt, FileDrop,
> AirDroid, Google Cast, Google Bump, Google Copresence, Beam, etc. 

none of which are as seamless as airdrop, and bump was on ios long
before android.

> applepay == Android has plenty of encrypted payment systems such as Android
> Pay, Google Wallet, PayPass, Samsung Pay, Barclaycard bPay, EE Cash on Tap,
> V.me, etc.

android pay is the android equivalent of apple pay (but less secure).

google wallet is on ios:
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/google-wallet-fast-easy-free/id57592352
5?mt=8>

paypass is a trademark (which you claim doesn't matter) for contactless
credit cards. 

samsung pay is *only* for samsung phones, not android, and is not
encrypted (it can't be).

once again, you're demonstrating how little you know.

> Besides... "NFC is inherently more secure than data transfers over Bluetooth
> and Wi-Fi, even if encrypted, because of the short distance for making a
> connection, which is very hard to intercept, several analysts and banks
> adopting NFC have said. The NFC specification requires two NFC devices to be
> less than 4 inches apart to transmit data."

nobody transfers files over nfc.

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#35622

On Fri, 04 Nov 2016 00:15:10 -0400, nospam wrote:

> you might actually want to read what you link before you link it.

I did.
 
> it states that apple pay has the largest number of supported banks and
> available in more countries. 

That's a non sequitur. 

The question isn't who has the biggest installed base. The question is
whether or not there is *any* functionality on iOS, all by itself, that
isn't already on Android.

It's a simple question.
What you come up with is an Apple trademark, of all things!

Well, OK. That Apple trademark isn't on Android, and it never will.
But if you seriously think a trademark is functionality, then you should
stop trying to answer the question.

 
> apple pay is also more secure than android pay and certainly *much*
> more secure than samsung pay, which spoofs msd so therefore not
> encrypted and not secure.

Again, you're proving my point, by trying to argue the non sequitur that the
Apple functionality is better than the very many Android equivalents.

This isn't a thread about which approach is better, the Apple functionality
or the Google Functionality (or all the others that are also on Android).

Just the fact that you try to argue on features proves my point on Apple
Pay.

> chase supported apple pay two *years* ago, while they just started
> supporting android pay this past september. 

Again, all you're doing is proving my point.
If Chase automatic payments are on both Android & Apple then, yet again, for
the umpteenth time, there is no functionality that iOS can do all by its
itty bitty self that Android doesn't do.

>> airdrop, == Android has plenty of ad hoc services such as ShareIt, FileDrop,
>> AirDroid, Google Cast, Google Bump, Google Copresence, Beam, etc. 
> 
> none of which are as seamless as airdrop, and bump was on ios long
> before android.

You keep proving my point.
 
>> applepay == Android has plenty of encrypted payment systems such as Android
>> Pay, Google Wallet, PayPass, Samsung Pay, Barclaycard bPay, EE Cash on Tap,
>> V.me, etc.
> 
> android pay is the android equivalent of apple pay (but less secure).

Again, you keep proving my point.

There's nothing that iOS can do, all by its itty bitty self, that Android
doesn't do, yet, there's plenty that Android does that iOS can't hope to do.

All I'm looking for is one thing, just one thing, that iOS can do that
Android can't do, all by its itty bitty self.

Just one functionality (not trademarks, specific apps, or brand names).

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#35626

In article <nvjgfl$1kg0$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Algeria Horan
<algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote:

> 
> > you might actually want to read what you link before you link it.
> 
> I did.

then go ask someone to explain the big words, because you did not
understand a single thing you read (and why you snipped the link).

> > it states that apple pay has the largest number of supported banks and
> > available in more countries. 
> 
> That's a non sequitur. 
>
> The question isn't who has the biggest installed base. The question is
> whether or not there is *any* functionality on iOS, all by itself, that
> isn't already on Android.

i didn't say anything about installed base. 

the mere fact that apple pay is supported by more banks and available
in more countries is *critical* to being able to use it. if your bank
doesn't support android pay or if it's unavailable in your country, you
don't have its functionality. period.

put simply, there are a *lot* of people who can't use android pay even
if they wanted to, but if they simply switched to an iphone, they could
use apple pay in the very same stores, using the same credit cards.

> It's a simple question.

which has a simple answer, one which you are too stupid to understand.

> What you come up with is an Apple trademark, of all things!
>
> Well, OK. That Apple trademark isn't on Android, and it never will.
> But if you seriously think a trademark is functionality, then you should
> stop trying to answer the question.

who cares if it's trademarked. google has lots of trademarks, something
you ignore.

android pay and samsung pay are trademarked, so if you don't want
trademarks, then you can't include them. works both ways.

> > apple pay is also more secure than android pay and certainly *much*
> > more secure than samsung pay, which spoofs msd so therefore not
> > encrypted and not secure.
> 
> Again, you're proving my point, by trying to argue the non sequitur that the
> Apple functionality is better than the very many Android equivalents.

nope. i'm not arguing. i'm *telling* you that apple pay has what you
call 'functionality' that android pay does not.

apple pay is more secure, can be used with more cards in more
countries, does not need an internet connection, does not even need a
phone and is also faster to use. that's a lot of functionality.

this is particularly true when compared with samsung pay, which is
unencrypted and isn't even an android feature. the fact you even
mentioned a *samsung* trademark means you're a hypocrite, as well as
being ignorant.

and if that's not enough, android pay is functionality you won't ever
use because it requires a valid and verified google id. apple pay does
not. 

you keep harping on how 'apple requires the cloud' when it's actually
the other way around.

like i said, you're not only a hypocrite, but incredibly ignorant.

> This isn't a thread about which approach is better, the Apple functionality
> or the Google Functionality (or all the others that are also on Android).

it absolutely is about which approach is better.

> Just the fact that you try to argue on features proves my point on Apple
> Pay.

i'm not arguing. i'm telling you how it works.

> > chase supported apple pay two *years* ago, while they just started
> > supporting android pay this past september. 
> 
> Again, all you're doing is proving my point.
> If Chase automatic payments are on both Android & Apple then, yet again, for
> the umpteenth time, there is no functionality that iOS can do all by its
> itty bitty self that Android doesn't do.

i didn't say anything about automatic payments.

you haven't a clue what you're even arguing about.

> >> airdrop, == Android has plenty of ad hoc services such as ShareIt,
> >> FileDrop,
> >> AirDroid, Google Cast, Google Bump, Google Copresence, Beam, etc. 
> > 
> > none of which are as seamless as airdrop, and bump was on ios long
> > before android.
> 
> You keep proving my point.

what i'm proving is how utterly stupid you are.

> >> applepay == Android has plenty of encrypted payment systems such as Android
> >> Pay, Google Wallet, PayPass, Samsung Pay, Barclaycard bPay, EE Cash on Tap,
> >> V.me, etc.
> > 
> > android pay is the android equivalent of apple pay (but less secure).
> 
> Again, you keep proving my point.
> 
> There's nothing that iOS can do, all by its itty bitty self, that Android
> doesn't do, yet, there's plenty that Android does that iOS can't hope to do.

wrong.

> All I'm looking for is one thing, just one thing, that iOS can do that
> Android can't do, all by its itty bitty self.

that's a flat out lie. you're not looking for *anything*. 

all you're doing is trolling and showing just how stupid you are.

> Just one functionality (not trademarks, specific apps, or brand names).

plenty have been described, including what's mentioned above. you
refuse to acknowledge any of it, let alone understand it, and blindly
keep on trolling.

just in case you missed it above, here's one thing you *can't* do on
android: being able to use apple pay without having a valid apple id.
android pay *requires* a google id.

given your insistence of using an android phone without a google id
(which is amazingly stupid) is something which greatly limits its
functionality. that alone means that any ios device can do quite a bit
more than your crippled android phone.

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#35633

On Fri, 04 Nov 2016 23:57:34 -0400, nospam wrote:

> then go ask someone to explain the big words, because you did not
> understand a single thing you read (and why you snipped the link).

First off, they're not "big words". 
They're simply meaningless trademarks.

Without the description *after* the trademark, the trademark itself is
meaningless (because Trademarks can mean *anything* the owner wants it to
mean, which they can change at the drop of a hat).

Apple Pay is just a trademark just like Google Pay is.

If you think that the 'big words' mean that only iOS has an electronic
payment system, they YOU are the one fooled by the big words. 

Likewise with trademarked ad hoc file transfer services, which abound on
Android devices.

The only way you think is the way APPLE MARKETING wants you to think.
You have zero independent thought processes whatsoever. 

The big trademarked words only fool you. 
Not anyone else.
 

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#35621

On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 01:38:50 +0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:

>  On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 06:42:46 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:
> airdrop,
> applepay, 
> sandboxing, 
> continuity,
> handoff, 


The iOS guys can't find a single bit of functionality that is on iOS that
isn't already on Android.

But, they suggested the following:
1. airdrop,
2. applepay, 
3. sandboxing, 
4. continuity,
5. handoff,

Noticing that Apple users can't think outside of Apple MARKETING trademarks,
we need to look at the FUNCTIONALITY that is described in the trademarks
above that the Apple users propose as "functionality" that is on iOS (all by
itself) that is not on Android (all by itself).

We have already debunked the Airdrop ad hoc file transfer services
functionality since they also abound on Android (e.g., ShareIt, FileDrop,
AirDroid, Google Cast, Google Bump, Google Copresence, Beam, etc.).

We also handily debunked the Apple Pay trademarked service which is just an
electronic payment system, which also abounds on Android (e.g., Android Pay,
Google Wallet, PayPass, Samsung Pay, Barclaycard bPay, EE Cash on Tap, V.me,
etc.).

What should we tackle next?

Sandboxing is a special case, since the power and flexibility of Android
file system access means that there is so much that the iOS user can't do
with respect to the file system, redirects, direct edits, links, direct
edits, saving files, saving APKs, direct copies, etc., that to say
sandboxing file system access is a "functionality" is to also say that
"having more complete access to the file system" is the same functionality,
only implemented differently.

So, that's a wash, in so much as nobody on Android would ever *want* to be
so restricted as iOS users are, with respect to lack of access to the file
system by themselves and all the apps.

So, we'll just call sandboxing/file-system-access the two sides of the same
functional coin. It's the same functionality, implemented with different
philosophies. 

To be sure, there are pros to sandboxing, and there are utterly astoundingly
huge cons, just like there are pros to having access to the file system by
all apps and there are huge cons too.

This isn't the thread to debate pros and cons of the file system access
methods; it's merely a thread to find something (anything) that iOS does by
way of functionality that Android doesn't already do.

Both do file system access.

So we can't count the extremely limited access to the file system on iOS as
a functionality that Android doesn't have - because - there isn't anyone on
Android who would *want* to have their hands tied, their feet tied, and even
their fingers tied to each other, from the perspective of the apps.

It's just file system access done philosophically differently.

In summary, both iOS and Android have a method for file system access, where
iOS is supremely restricted by design, and Android is rather open by design,
which is to say they both have file system access functionality - but done
entirely differently.

So what we're left to look at are:
a. Continuity
b. Handoff

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#35627

Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote

<reams of your bare faced lies and pathetic excuse for a troll flushed where 
it belongs>
 

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#35628

Am 05.11.2016 um 06:20 schrieb Rod Speed:
> Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote
> 
> <reams of your bare faced lies and pathetic excuse for a troll flushed where 
> it belongs>
>  
> 
Your postings ar more than useless, they are annoying.
Put this troll in a filter like I do and you won't see ist at all. The
more you feed him the more he writes the crap, stupid!

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#35630

Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote 
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote
 
>> <reams of your bare faced lies and pathetic 
>> excuse for a troll flushed where it belongs>

> Your postings ar more than useless, they are annoying.

Just as true of your shit, fuckwit child. 

> Put this troll in a filter like I do 

Go and fuck yourself, again. 

> and you won't see ist at all. 

Wrong, as always. That fuckwit keeps changing 
his nick so no filter will ever produce that result. 

> The more you feed him the more he writes the crap, stupid!

He'd keep trolling even if everyone ignored him, fuckwit child. 

And you lied thru your fucking teeth about filtering me, fuckwit child.  

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#35639

On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 07:10:54 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
wrote:

>Am 05.11.2016 um 06:20 schrieb Rod Speed:
>> Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote
>> 
>> <reams of your bare faced lies and pathetic excuse for a troll flushed where 
>> it belongs>
>>  
>> 
>Your postings ar more than useless, they are annoying.
>Put this troll in a filter like I do and you won't see ist at all. The
>more you feed him the more he writes the crap, stupid!

There's one way to not see his stupid one-liners like the above and
get rid of the many nym-ed troll too.

Kill file him.

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#35654

Am 05.11.16 um 22:49 schrieb BobbyK:
> On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 07:10:54 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
> wrote:
>
>> Am 05.11.2016 um 06:20 schrieb Rod Speed:
>>> Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote
>>>
>>> <reams of your bare faced lies and pathetic excuse for a troll flushed where
>>> it belongs>
>>>
>>>
>> Your postings ar more than useless, they are annoying.
>> Put this troll in a filter like I do and you won't see ist at all. The
>> more you feed him the more he writes the crap, stupid!
>
> There's one way to not see his stupid one-liners like the above and
> get rid of the many nym-ed troll too.
>
> Kill file him.

I never see this Algerian whatever. Even if he or she changes the name 
the filter will kill the postings because he or she is using what I call 
in German a "Deppenserver" or in English an "idiot-server".

It is is interesting to see once again how rough the posters in 
English-speaking groups treat each other. In the German-speaking domains 
the interaction is (usually) much politer.

Joerg


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#35664

Some fuckwit lying kraut claiming to be
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote 
just what you'd expect from a fuckwit lying kraut. 

Seig Heil.  

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#35665

Am 06.11.2016 um 09:35 schrieb Jack Johnson:
> Some fuckwit lying kraut claiming to be
> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote 
> just what you'd expect from a fuckwit lying kraut. 
> 
> Seig Heil.  
> 
*Fat grin*!
You got everything wrong in such a small text.
Well done!

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#35668

Some fuckwit lying kraut claiming to be
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote 
just what you'd expect from a fuckwit lying kraut. 
 
Seig Heil.  
 

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#35669

Am 06.11.2016 um 11:01 schrieb Jack Johnson:
> Some fuckwit lying kraut claiming to be
> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote 
> just what you'd expect from a fuckwit lying kraut. 
>  
> Seig Heil.  
^^^^^^^^^^^^

Try again!


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#35683

Some fuckwit lying kraut claiming to be
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote 
just what you'd expect from a fuckwit lying kraut. 
  
Seig Heil.  
 

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#35701

in 35865 20161106 083529 "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> wrote:
>Some fuckwit lying kraut claiming to be
>Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote
>just what you'd expect from a fuckwit lying kraut.
>
>Seig Heil.

Hey, Stupid!  See that .ch at the end of his address?
That's Switzerland.
And it's Sieg Heil.
OK, Stupid?

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#35712

Am 07.11.2016 um 09:00 schrieb Bob Martin:
> in 35865 20161106 083529 "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Some fuckwit lying kraut claiming to be
>> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote
>> just what you'd expect from a fuckwit lying kraut.
>>
>> Seig Heil.
> 
> Hey, Stupid!  See that .ch at the end of his address?
> That's Switzerland.
> And it's Sieg Heil.
> OK, Stupid?
> 
*SMILE*

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#35645

On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 02:34:29 +0000 (UTC), Algeria Horan wrote:

> So what we're left to look at are:
> a. Continuity
> b. Handoff

Taking up "Continuity" next, I google for what the heck it is, since the
typical iOS user's mindset is only on what Apple MARKETING feeds them.

Interestingly, this is the first suggested functionality that iOS supposedly
has that isn't already on Android that is not a meaningless Apple trademark:
http://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/trademark/appletmlist.html

So what is this Apple MARKETING thing they call "Continuity"?

"Continuity is an umbrella term Apple is using for a range of new features
that bring the iOS and Mac OS X devices closer than ever before. There are
four main parts of Continuity: Handoff, Phone Calls, SMS Text Messaging and
Wi-Fi Sharing".

Huh? An "umbrella term"?

Let's see what Apple Marketing has to say about what it actually "is":
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204681
Use Continuity to connect your Mac, iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, and Apple
Watch
   "Each of these features, together known as Continuity, allow your devices
to work together"

When we look at the list of things that is "supposedly" Continuity, we find
things such as "Make and receive phone calls without picking up your
iPhone", which, of course, is simply functionality that exists on Android
too.

Let's look at the *requirements* to "make cellular phone calls" with
"Continuity umbrella stuff":

Continuity only works when your devices are near each other and set up as
follows:
    Each device is signed in to iCloud with the same Apple ID.
    Each device is signed in to FaceTime with the same Apple ID.
    Each device has Wi-Fi turned on.
    Each device is connected to the same network using Wi-Fi or Ethernet.
    On iPhone, go to Settings > Phone > Calls on Other Devices, then turn on
Allow Calls on Other Devices.
    On iPad or iPod touch, go to Settings > FaceTime, then turn on Calls
from iPhone.
    On Mac, open the FaceTime app, then choose FaceTime > Preferences. Click
Settings, then select Calls From iPhone.

Holy shit. All that, just to make a cellular phone call from a computer?

I haven't done it from Android, but a quick google found that it can be
done, and, I'll be the requirements aren't anything like what hoops the iOS
users have to jump through just to do something that simple.

Apparently one Android app alone gives almost all of the umbrella
functionality that Rod Speed and Apple Marketing collectively call
"Continuitity".
   "AirDroid gives Android users most of Continuity's features and allows
some things that'll make Apple users jealous"
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/features/how-to-make-calls-send-and-receive-sms-from-your-computer-using-an-android-phone-654766

Sheesh. Can't all the iOS users on this entire newsgroup come up with a
*single* bit of functionality that is on iOS (all by its itty bitty self)
that isn't *already* on Android?

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#35647

Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote
> Algeria Horan wrote

>> So what we're left to look at are:
>> a. Continuity
>> b. Handoff

> Taking up "Continuity" next, I google for what the heck it is, since the
> typical iOS user's mindset is only on what Apple MARKETING feeds them.

> Interestingly, this is the first suggested functionality that iOS 
> supposedly
> has that isn't already on Android that is not a meaningless Apple 
> trademark:
> http://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/trademark/appletmlist.html

> So what is this Apple MARKETING thing they call "Continuity"?

> "Continuity is an umbrella term Apple is using for a range
> of new features that bring the iOS and Mac OS X devices
> closer than ever before. There are four main parts of Continuity:
> Handoff, Phone Calls, SMS Text Messaging and Wi-Fi Sharing".

> Huh? An "umbrella term"?

Use a dictionary, fuckwit troll.

> Let's see what Apple Marketing has to say about what it actually "is":
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204681
> Use Continuity to connect your Mac, iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, and Apple 
> Watch

Something android can't do over that range of types of devices, fuckwit 
troll.

>   "Each of these features, together known as
>    Continuity, allow your devicesto work together"

> When we look at the list of things that is "supposedly" Continuity, we 
> find
> things such as "Make and receive phone calls without picking up your 
> iPhone",
> which, of course, is simply functionality that exists on Android too.

Not from that range of devices it isnt, fuckwit troll.

> Let's look at the *requirements* to "make cellular
> phone calls" with "Continuity umbrella stuff":

> Continuity only works when your devices
> are near each other and set up as follows:
>    Each device is signed in to iCloud with the same Apple ID.
>    Each device is signed in to FaceTime with the same Apple ID.
>    Each device has Wi-Fi turned on.
>    Each device is connected to the same network using Wi-Fi or Ethernet.
>    On iPhone, go to Settings > Phone > Calls on Other Devices,
>      then turn on Allow Calls on Other Devices.
>    On iPad or iPod touch, go to Settings > FaceTime,
>      then turn on Calls from iPhone.
>    On Mac, open the FaceTime app, then choose FaceTime > Preferences.
>      Click Settings, then select Calls From iPhone.

> Holy shit. All that, just to make a cellular phone call from a computer?

Nope, to allow the handoff, fuckwit.

> I haven't done it from Android, but a quick google found that it can be 
> done,

Like hell it can with all the capability that is included.

> and, I'll be the requirements aren't anything like what hoops the
> iOS users have to jump through just to do something that simple.

You've lost that bet. Feel free to pay using paypal.

> Apparently one Android app alone gives almost all of the umbrella
> functionality that Rod Speed and Apple Marketing collectively call
> "Continuitity".
>   "AirDroid gives Android users most of Continuity's features

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should
have noticed the difference between almost all
and most of, you pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

Even the most basic capability of answering an
incoming call on whatever device is most convenient
with an incoming cellular call isnt even available with
it, you pathetic excuse for a lying troll and it certainly
isnt available in android itself anyway, you pathetic
excuse for a lying troll.

> http://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/features/how-to-make-calls-send-and-receive-sms-from-your-computer-using-an-android-phone-654766

That's JUST SMS, not cellular calls, you pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

<reams of your pathetic excuse for a lying troll flushed where it belongs>

<bares arse at some fuckwit kraut> 

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#35650

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 14:26:41 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

> Something android can't do over that range of types of devices, fuckwit 
> troll.

I love how you prove my point every time, even as you troll...

All of a sudden, there is this "range of devices", which, interestingly,
doesn't include more than half the devices out there! 

Heh heh ...

What you mean is that the Continuity "umbrella stuff" you speak about, is
extremely limited in the devices that it works with.

Meanwhile, the FUNCTIONALITY of your vaunted Continuity "umbrella stuff" is
almost completely matched with a *single* freeware app on Android:
  "AirDroid is not perfect for Continuity like features, but it comes pretty
close."

Unlike you (who clearly just trolls), I'm actually trying to *answer* the
question posted in the OP, which is what functionality is in your vaunted
Continuity "umbrella stuff" that isn't already on Android.

I'm not going to get help from you or nospam or jollyroger because you don't
actually know anything (you even listed Handoff stuff as separate from
Continuity umbrella stuff, for heaven's sake), so you clearly don't know
what you're talking about.

All *you* do is troll.

But I'm trying to answer the question.

From the first google hit, it's clear that Android already has similar
"umbrella stuff" functionality, which is almost completely contained in the
very first app I looked at.

I think the only thing left to look for on Android is the functionality that
you Apple MARKETING-driven buffoons call "Handoff" stuff, which I'm doing
after I send this off.

> That's JUST SMS, not cellular calls, you pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

You prove my point, with every statement you make.
You can't find a single thing that iOS can do that Android can't do.

Android already has the functionality to do cellular calls also.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=justPhone.remotePhone
  "Use your Microsoft Windows PC as remote dialer for managing incoming and 
outgoing calls and for writing and receiving SMS messages."

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