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  Religious arguments The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 20:05 -0700
    Re: Religious arguments tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-02 01:14 -0400
    Re: Religious arguments Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-08-02 09:40 +0200
      Re: Religious arguments Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 07:55 +0000
        Re: Religious arguments Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-08-02 14:14 -0400
          Re: Religious arguments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 14:46 -0400
            Re: Religious arguments Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-08-02 20:01 +0000
            Re: Religious arguments Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-08-03 04:34 +0200
              Re: Religious arguments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 22:47 -0400
                Re: Religious arguments Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-08-03 19:29 +0200
                  Re: Religious arguments The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 10:33 -0700
                    Re: Religious arguments Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-08-04 04:09 +0200
            Re: Religious arguments Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-08-03 14:56 -0400
              Re: Religious arguments nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:19 -0400
                Re: Religious arguments Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-08-03 16:08 -0400
    Re: Religious arguments "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-08-02 20:13 +0200
    Re: Religious arguments crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 08:38 -0600

#33013 — Religious arguments

Might I mention that (1) nobody ever converts, and (2) after a while 
they get REALLY boring?

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    (On going to war over religion:) "You're basically killing each other
    to see who's got the better imaginary friend."           -- Rich Jeni

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#33014

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 20:05:30 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:

> Might I mention that (1) nobody ever converts, ...

I don't know ... I've met my share of converts, almost always more strongly
religious than those who just grew up in the faith in question.

> ... and (2) after a while 
> they get REALLY boring?

What's this "they" refer to? Converts? (I'd agree.) Or the titular
Religious arguments? (I'd replace "boring" by "contentious".)

(Ducks for cover.) Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#33017

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 20:05:30 -0700, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Might I mention that (1) nobody ever converts, and (2) after a while 
>they get REALLY boring?

Since this NG is for Android, there shouldn't be any religious
arguments here. Those of other sects, like Windows and Apple, should
stick to their forums, and save their proselytising effforts for a
more neutral ng.

Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com

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#33018

Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 20:05:30 -0700, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Might I mention that (1) nobody ever converts, and (2) after a while 
>> they get REALLY boring?
> 
> Since this NG is for Android, there shouldn't be any religious
> arguments here. Those of other sects, like Windows and Apple, should
> stick to their forums, and save their proselytising effforts for a
> more neutral ng.
> 
> Steve Hayes
> http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
> http://khanya.wordpress.com
> 

I agree with both posters, above. This ng used to have a relatively high
signal to noise ratio, but over the last few months it's gotten worse. 

My kill files have never been so busy. I just wish the troll would stop
nymshifting or quite simply put a sock in it.

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#33025

On 02 Aug 2016, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote in
comp.mobile.android: 

> My kill files have never been so busy. I just wish the troll would
> stop nymshifting or quite simply put a sock in it.

My filter must be effective because I have no idea who you're talking 
about.

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#33028

In article <XnsA65890D6E806Dnilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>, Nil
<rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

> 
> > My kill files have never been so busy. I just wish the troll would
> > stop nymshifting or quite simply put a sock in it.
> 
> My filter must be effective because I have no idea who you're talking 
> about.

currently 'aardvarks'.

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#33035

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#33043

On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 14:46:39 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <XnsA65890D6E806Dnilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>, Nil
><rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
>
>> 
>> > My kill files have never been so busy. I just wish the troll would
>> > stop nymshifting or quite simply put a sock in it.
>> 
>> My filter must be effective because I have no idea who you're talking 
>> about.
>
>currently 'aardvarks'.

In my reader this thread was started by "The Real Bev"


Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com

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#33044

In article <g0m2qb1cf6jn08stch44ahkgpb6bg1jniu@4ax.com>, Steve Hayes
<hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> >> 
> >> > My kill files have never been so busy. I just wish the troll would
> >> > stop nymshifting or quite simply put a sock in it.
> >> 
> >> My filter must be effective because I have no idea who you're talking 
> >> about.
> >
> >currently 'aardvarks'.
> 
> In my reader this thread was started by "The Real Bev"

nobody said he started this thread.

look at the past couple of weeks of posts and you'll see what's going
on.

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#33069

On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 22:47:27 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <g0m2qb1cf6jn08stch44ahkgpb6bg1jniu@4ax.com>, Steve Hayes
><hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
>> >> 
>> >> > My kill files have never been so busy. I just wish the troll would
>> >> > stop nymshifting or quite simply put a sock in it.
>> >> 
>> >> My filter must be effective because I have no idea who you're talking 
>> >> about.
>> >
>> >currently 'aardvarks'.
>> 
>> In my reader this thread was started by "The Real Bev"
>
>nobody said he started this thread.
>
>look at the past couple of weeks of posts and you'll see what's going
>on.

It has a subject line I had not seen before. 

It wasn't in reply to anything - nothing was quoted. So it is in
effect a new thread with a new subject line, not even a "Was: Re xxxx"


Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com

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#33070

On 08/03/2016 10:29 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 22:47:27 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <g0m2qb1cf6jn08stch44ahkgpb6bg1jniu@4ax.com>, Steve
>> Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> My kill files have never been so busy. I just wish the
>>>>>> troll would stop nymshifting or quite simply put a sock in
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> My filter must be effective because I have no idea who you're
>>>>> talking about.
>>>>
>>>> currently 'aardvarks'.
>>>
>>> In my reader this thread was started by "The Real Bev"
>>
>> nobody said he started this thread.
>>
>> look at the past couple of weeks of posts and you'll see what's
>> going on.
>
> It has a subject line I had not seen before.
>
> It wasn't in reply to anything - nothing was quoted. So it is in
> effect a new thread with a new subject line, not even a "Was: Re
> xxxx"

<sigh> I started this thread as a general comment on recent long-running
arguments without actually participating in them.  The hope is that
people will argue for a SHORT time and then just let it go as a
fruitless endeavor.

I watched a valuable group die because of similar stuff which has been
running since 1999.  The only remaining participants just fling shit
back and forth.  Goddam shame.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "You should be glad that bridge fell down -- I was planning
    to build thirteen more to the same design."
                -- Attributed to I.K. Brunel, addressing the
                   Directors of the Great Western Railway

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#33090

On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 10:33:52 -0700, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 08/03/2016 10:29 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
>> On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 22:47:27 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <g0m2qb1cf6jn08stch44ahkgpb6bg1jniu@4ax.com>, Steve
>>> Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My kill files have never been so busy. I just wish the
>>>>>>> troll would stop nymshifting or quite simply put a sock in
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My filter must be effective because I have no idea who you're
>>>>>> talking about.
>>>>>
>>>>> currently 'aardvarks'.
>>>>
>>>> In my reader this thread was started by "The Real Bev"
>>>
>>> nobody said he started this thread.
>>>
>>> look at the past couple of weeks of posts and you'll see what's
>>> going on.
>>
>> It has a subject line I had not seen before.
>>
>> It wasn't in reply to anything - nothing was quoted. So it is in
>> effect a new thread with a new subject line, not even a "Was: Re
>> xxxx"
>
><sigh> I started this thread as a general comment on recent long-running
>arguments without actually participating in them.  The hope is that
>people will argue for a SHORT time and then just let it go as a
>fruitless endeavor.

OK, I don't read every thread, only those whose subject lines look
interesting, so I must have missed the ones you were referring to. 

>I watched a valuable group die because of similar stuff which has been
>running since 1999.  The only remaining participants just fling shit
>back and forth.  Goddam shame.

Indeed. I've seen several groups die like that. 


Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com

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#33075

On 02 Aug 2016, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in
comp.mobile.android: 

> In article <XnsA65890D6E806Dnilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>, Nil
><rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> My filter must be effective because I have no idea who you're
>> talking about.
> 
> currently 'aardvarks'.

After checking it out, I see the reason I don't see those trolling 
threads is because I have crossposts filtered out. In my experience, 
there is rarely if ever anything good come out of such crossposts, 
especially if they come from a group about a "rival" OS 
(misc.phone.mobile.iphone) or completely unrelated subject 
(sci.electronics.repair). Those who crosspost like that are only trying  
to stir up controversy, not have a real discussion.

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#33078

In article <XnsA659980DC6632nilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>, Nil
<rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

> >> My filter must be effective because I have no idea who you're
> >> talking about.
> > 
> > currently 'aardvarks'.
> 
> After checking it out, I see the reason I don't see those trolling 
> threads is because I have crossposts filtered out. In my experience, 
> there is rarely if ever anything good come out of such crossposts, 
> especially if they come from a group about a "rival" OS 
> (misc.phone.mobile.iphone) or completely unrelated subject 
> (sci.electronics.repair). Those who crosspost like that are only trying  
> to stir up controversy, not have a real discussion.


sometimes cross-posting is valid, but in this case, he does it to troll.

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#33085

On 03 Aug 2016, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in
comp.mobile.android: 

> sometimes cross-posting is valid, but in this case, he does it to
> troll. 

I allow up to 3 crossposts, but I have an extensive list of groups that 
are notorious troll holes, the presence of which kill the thread 
immediately. High on the list are any OS "advocacy" groups. I think I 
would be just as happy if I killed even 1 or 0 crossposts. I might miss 
something legit, but I don't feel obligated to read everything anyway.

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#33024

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 20:05:30 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:

> Might I mention that (1) nobody ever converts, and (2) after a while 
> they get REALLY boring?

FYI Android isn't a religion...

-- 
s|b

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#33128

On 08/01/2016 09:05 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> Might I mention that (1) nobody ever converts, and (2) after a while
> they get REALLY boring?
>

(1) Sometimes people do convert, just very seldom on usenet.

(2) They start out boring and after a while they get worse... that's 
when you start RTFM to learn about kill-filters. <g>

-- 
http://totally-portable-software.blogspot.com
   [Sat Mar 26: "Documentation and Portability"]

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