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Anybody here who still pays for a landline

Started byThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
First post2016-07-19 19:11 -0700
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  Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:11 -0700
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 22:16 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 03:22 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 03:11 -0500
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 07:31 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 09:05 -0700
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 12:18 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 12:36 -0500
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:28 -0400
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 19:24 -0500
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 13:58 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline John Carter <me@mymailsvr.org> - 2016-08-19 01:27 +0000
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 03:13 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:09 -0700
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 11:44 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:32 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 18:35 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 13:03 -0500
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-20 05:59 +0200
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 00:26 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 07:55 +0000
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-20 18:36 +0200
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 17:46 +0000
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 21:29 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-07-20 09:03 +0100
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-20 12:53 +0100
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 04:16 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 10:38 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 10:52 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 11:52 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:11 -0700
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:32 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 16:41 -0700
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-21 07:09 +0200
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Tim <timothybil@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-21 09:09 -0500
                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 12:46 -0700
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:23 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 13:51 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 15:09 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 18:23 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 07:47 +0000
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:42 -0400
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-23 11:42 +0100
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 13:28 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 13:59 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-07-22 19:08 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 00:30 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-23 04:00 -0400
                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-23 06:07 -0400
                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 04:17 -0400
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 08:13 -0700
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 16:23 -0400
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 19:24 -0700
                                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 20:14 -0700
                                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 04:29 -0400
                                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-26 09:30 -0400
                                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:38 -0700
                                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-26 17:58 +0100
                                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 15:17 -0400
                                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 15:23 -0400
                                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-27 02:30 -0400
                                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 08:46 -0700
                                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 07:12 -0600
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 04:27 -0400
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:27 -0700
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-26 13:40 -0400
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 11:16 -0400
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 16:27 -0400
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 16:35 -0400
                                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 19:38 -0400
                                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 20:21 -0400
                                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-07-24 22:07 -0400
                                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 22:11 -0400
                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 13:35 -0400
                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 15:16 -0700
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 23:48 -0400
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 20:55 -0700
                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 04:22 -0400
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 15:27 -0400
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-27 02:38 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline crankpuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 06:34 -0600
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:41 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 14:03 -0700
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 21:30 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 09:02 -0700
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:49 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-20 18:40 +0200
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:53 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-20 05:59 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 10:38 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 10:52 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 11:53 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 12:18 -0400
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 12:43 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:13 -0700
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 11:44 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 11:08 -0700
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 14:15 -0400
                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 12:24 -0700
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 15:47 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 16:42 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-25 17:58 +0000
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 15:07 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 14:03 -0700
                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 15:27 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 15:47 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 16:07 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:31 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 16:45 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 20:01 -0700
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-21 00:15 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 02:08 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 04:04 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 02:17 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-25 17:49 +0000
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 15:07 -0400
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 03:51 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 03:44 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-25 17:53 +0000
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 15:07 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 07:55 +0000
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-20 12:53 +0100
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-23 23:38 +0100
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 11:16 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-25 07:32 +0100
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 10:25 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-07-20 07:04 -0500
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:16 -0700
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 11:44 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 11:08 -0700
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 09:09 -0700
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-20 17:29 +0100
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 12:44 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 07:45 +0000
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-21 10:41 +0100
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-21 09:13 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 13:59 -0700
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:26 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:29 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:28 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline "tb" <nospam@example.invalid> - 2016-07-20 13:41 +0000
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:32 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-07-21 02:58 +1000
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 12:59 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:34 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-21 22:38 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:34 -0400

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#32314

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-20 00:26 -0400
Message-ID<200720160026370160%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32308
In article <vjttobhs9ujm2qd48ic15q0mltlmke253e@4ax.com>, Steve Hayes
<hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> >...NOT part of your cable service?
> 
> Is a "cable service" not a landline?

she means old school pots, not voip over broadband.

> But yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service I'm using
> to type this, 

there's no need to have a landline for dsl.

> but it also worjks for our Android phones when we're at
> home for the data part, though not for voice calls or SMS,

it can.

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#32334

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-20 07:55 +0000
Message-ID<nmnapg$bg6$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32314
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <vjttobhs9ujm2qd48ic15q0mltlmke253e@4ax.com>, Steve Hayes
> <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> 
>>> ...NOT part of your cable service?
>> 
>> Is a "cable service" not a landline?
> 
> she means old school pots, not voip over broadband.
> 
>> But yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service I'm using
>> to type this, 
> 
> there's no need to have a landline for dsl.

How so? Everywhere I've seen requires it.

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#32357

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
Message-ID<200720160954203799%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32334
In article <nmnapg$bg6$2@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:

> >> But yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service I'm using
> >> to type this, 
> > 
> > there's no need to have a landline for dsl.
> 
> How so? Everywhere I've seen requires it.

ask for naked dsl or dry loop.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_DSL>
  A naked DSL (a.k.a. standalone or dry loop DSL) is a digital
  subscriber line (DSL) without a PSTN (analogue telephony) service ‹
  or the associated dial tone. In other words, only a standalone DSL
  Internet service is provided on the local loop.

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#32394

FromSteve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
Date2016-07-20 18:36 +0200
Message-ID<50avob99mpl1mmpg7uubbs5eb1daeabe0k@4ax.com>
In reply to#32357
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:54:20 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <nmnapg$bg6$2@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> >> But yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service I'm using
>> >> to type this, 
>> > 
>> > there's no need to have a landline for dsl.
>> 
>> How so? Everywhere I've seen requires it.
>
>ask for naked dsl or dry loop.
>
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_DSL>
>  A naked DSL (a.k.a. standalone or dry loop DSL) is a digital
>  subscriber line (DSL) without a PSTN (analogue telephony) service ‹
>  or the associated dial tone. In other words, only a standalone DSL
>  Internet service is provided on the local loop.

If available, which I'm pretty sure it isn't, but it still seems to
require a landline.



Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com

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#32409

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-20 17:46 +0000
Message-ID<nmodea$jc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32357
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <nmnapg$bg6$2@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>>>> But yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service I'm using
>>>> to type this, 
>>> 
>>> there's no need to have a landline for dsl.
>> 
>> How so? Everywhere I've seen requires it.
> 
> ask for naked dsl or dry loop.
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_DSL>
>   A naked DSL (a.k.a. standalone or dry loop DSL) is a digital
>   subscriber line (DSL) without a PSTN (analogue telephony) service ‹
>   or the associated dial tone. In other words, only a standalone DSL
>   Internet service is provided on the local loop.
> 

Not available in the UK. That explains it.

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#32532

FromMicky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-21 21:29 -0400
Message-ID<elt2pb50s08hrplks3jcj0d8e759nq9ene@4ax.com>
In reply to#32409
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:46:50 -0000 (UTC), Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:

>nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <nmnapg$bg6$2@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> But yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service I'm using
>>>>> to type this, 
>>>> 
>>>> there's no need to have a landline for dsl.
>>> 
>>> How so? Everywhere I've seen requires it.
>> 
>> ask for naked dsl or dry loop.
>> 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_DSL>
>>   A naked DSL (a.k.a. standalone or dry loop DSL) is a digital
>>   subscriber line (DSL) without a PSTN (analogue telephony) service ?
>>   or the associated dial tone. In other words, only a standalone DSL
>>   Internet service is provided on the local loop.
>> 
>
>Not available in the UK. That explains it.

Not available in Baltimore either.   Probably because some
long-standing relationship between Lord Baltimore and the UK.

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#32336

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2016-07-20 09:03 +0100
Message-ID<dv8pi7Fbc4vU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#32314
nospam wrote:

> there's no need to have a landline for dsl.

Technically no, but try ordering xDSL without PSTN in the UK and you'll 
not get far.

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#32351

FromChris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
Date2016-07-20 12:53 +0100
Message-ID<8mnuobljiheld8vjc9r51dbjc3iqkkigth@4ax.com>
In reply to#32314
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 00:26:37 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>there's no need to have a landline for dsl.

If there's no line then it isn't DSL. The "L" in DSL stands for "Line"

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#32358

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
Message-ID<200720160954213836%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32351
In article <8mnuobljiheld8vjc9r51dbjc3iqkkigth@4ax.com>, Chris in
Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:

> >there's no need to have a landline for dsl.
> 
> If there's no line then it isn't DSL. The "L" in DSL stands for "Line"

landline = pots

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#32338

FromMicky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-20 04:16 -0400
Message-ID<itbuobdfv3pvb4a0o8fuqm2juugfl8ij8m@4ax.com>
In reply to#32308
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:59:21 +0200, Steve Hayes
<hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 19:11:22 -0700, The Real Bev
><bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>...NOT part of your cable service?
>
>Is a "cable service" not a landline?
>
>But yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service I'm using
>to type this, but it also worjks for our Android phones when we're at
>home for the data part, though not for voice calls or SMS,
>
I'm in the same shoes you are Steve. 

Verizon keeps doing various things to get people to FIOS so they can
take away copper, but I've put anti-tank barricades in my front yard
to keep them from doing that here.    The DSL is cheap, but the phone
service is expensive. 

My friend moved to Carroll county where she had fewer choices iiuc and
ended up with Comcast cable for TV and phone, but phone meant, and I
didn't see this coming, nor did she, I think, VOIP phone, and she says
it's terrible.  Interruptions and I don't know what else, even after
she's complained and they've tried to fix it.  She's moved to her cell
phone except for junk calls. 

So I think I should find something cheaper than what I have, but I
don't want inferior service. 

Bev, I can't make up my mind or get ready by the 29th.   Won't they
have a repeated or continuing offer that will make you some money and
get me a discount, instead of having to do t hings this month.   

And Bev if you're using internet for Oooma, WHAT ARE YOU USING FOR
INTERNEt?  

 Like Steve, I'm using phone wires, which I don't think I can give up
on if I want DSL.   And to give up on DSL means Comcast cable or
satellite, I think.    Or vonage whatever that is. 

And Bev, DO YOUR PHONES PLUG IN LIKE PHONES???  Because I've got
things working just the way I want it, a base station and three
cordless extensions.   Well the base station is the only thing that
really plugs in, with a modular phone jack, and house current.  Will
that still work? 


One of them seemed to be breaking so I bought 3 more as spares, before
they are no longer avaiable even used, so I can last, frankly until I
die.  The last thing I want to be doing when I'm 95 and have lumbago
is looking for a replacement cordless phone, or worse yet, redoing the
whole ssytem. 

(I've also got my wireless speakers the way I want them except I need
one or two  more transmitters for when the current one fails.   I
don't think my TV system will stay the same for the next 25 years, but
I can't predict the changes either. I'm good for 3 or 4 years now.) 

>Steve Hayes

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#32368

FromPAS <abc@doremi.net>
Date2016-07-20 10:38 -0400
Message-ID<nmo2cb$o3b$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32338
On 7/20/2016 4:16 AM, Micky wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:59:21 +0200, Steve Hayes
> <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 19:11:22 -0700, The Real Bev
>> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...NOT part of your cable service?
>> Is a "cable service" not a landline?
>>
>> But yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service I'm using
>> to type this, but it also worjks for our Android phones when we're at
>> home for the data part, though not for voice calls or SMS,
>>
> I'm in the same shoes you are Steve.
>
> Verizon keeps doing various things to get people to FIOS so they can
> take away copper, but I've put anti-tank barricades in my front yard
> to keep them from doing that here.    The DSL is cheap, but the phone
> service is expensive.
>
> My friend moved to Carroll county where she had fewer choices iiuc and
> ended up with Comcast cable for TV and phone, but phone meant, and I
> didn't see this coming, nor did she, I think, VOIP phone, and she says
> it's terrible.  Interruptions and I don't know what else, even after
> she's complained and they've tried to fix it.  She's moved to her cell
> phone except for junk calls.
>
> So I think I should find something cheaper than what I have, but I
> don't want inferior service.
>
> Bev, I can't make up my mind or get ready by the 29th.   Won't they
> have a repeated or continuing offer that will make you some money and
> get me a discount, instead of having to do t hings this month.
>
> And Bev if you're using internet for Oooma, WHAT ARE YOU USING FOR
> INTERNEt?
>
>   Like Steve, I'm using phone wires, which I don't think I can give up
> on if I want DSL.   And to give up on DSL means Comcast cable or
> satellite, I think.    Or vonage whatever that is.
>
> And Bev, DO YOUR PHONES PLUG IN LIKE PHONES???  Because I've got
> things working just the way I want it, a base station and three
> cordless extensions.   Well the base station is the only thing that
> really plugs in, with a modular phone jack, and house current.  Will
> that still work?
>
>
> One of them seemed to be breaking so I bought 3 more as spares, before
> they are no longer avaiable even used, so I can last, frankly until I
> die.  The last thing I want to be doing when I'm 95 and have lumbago
> is looking for a replacement cordless phone, or worse yet, redoing the
> whole ssytem.
>
> (I've also got my wireless speakers the way I want them except I need
> one or two  more transmitters for when the current one fails.   I
> don't think my TV system will stay the same for the next 25 years, but
> I can't predict the changes either. I'm good for 3 or 4 years now.)
>
>> Steve Hayes

I use Ooma also.  I'm very happy with it.  I'd like to make a complete 
break from the cable company but the only choice for fast internet is 
the cable company.  Verizon hasn't made FIOS available in Brookhaven 
Township where I live and they say they have no interest in doing it in 
the future.  East of the township, FIOS is available.  I stopped using 
cable TV service a couple of years ago.  I got frustrated with the new 
cable boxes.  The older Scientific Atlanta boxes were bad enough, 
particularly the DVR units that would always breakdown.  I was replacing 
them every year.  They had internal hard drives, the recordings were not 
on the cable company's servers.  The replacement Samsung boxes were 
better in some respects - smaller and DVR was on the company servers so 
you needed only one DVR unit but could watch recordings in any room.  
But the worst thing about those boxes was how long it took to change a 
channel.  It was almost five seconds which may not seem long but it is.  
I finally tossed them and got DirecTV and have been very happy.  When I 
move to TN next year, I'll keep DirecTV for one reason - hockey.  I can 
get MSG network which broadcasts the NY Rangers on satellite but it's 
not offered on a local cable company outside the NY tri-state area.

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#32371

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-20 10:52 -0400
Message-ID<200720161052162308%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32368
In article <nmo2cb$o3b$2@dont-email.me>, PAS <abc@doremi.net> wrote:

> I use Ooma also.  I'm very happy with it.  I'd like to make a complete 
> break from the cable company but the only choice for fast internet is 
> the cable company.  Verizon hasn't made FIOS available in Brookhaven 
> Township where I live and they say they have no interest in doing it in 
> the future.  East of the township, FIOS is available.  I stopped using 
> cable TV service a couple of years ago.  I got frustrated with the new 
> cable boxes.  The older Scientific Atlanta boxes were bad enough, 
> particularly the DVR units that would always breakdown.  I was replacing 
> them every year.  They had internal hard drives, the recordings were not 
> on the cable company's servers.  The replacement Samsung boxes were 
> better in some respects - smaller and DVR was on the company servers so 
> you needed only one DVR unit but could watch recordings in any room.  
> But the worst thing about those boxes was how long it took to change a 
> channel.  It was almost five seconds which may not seem long but it is.  
> I finally tossed them and got DirecTV and have been very happy.  When I 
> move to TN next year, I'll keep DirecTV for one reason - hockey.  I can 
> get MSG network which broadcasts the NY Rangers on satellite but it's 
> not offered on a local cable company outside the NY tri-state area.

get your own docsis cable box

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#32383

FromPAS <abc@doremi.net>
Date2016-07-20 11:52 -0400
Message-ID<nmo6nu$837$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32371
On 7/20/2016 10:52 AM, nospam wrote:
> In article <nmo2cb$o3b$2@dont-email.me>, PAS <abc@doremi.net> wrote:
>
>> I use Ooma also.  I'm very happy with it.  I'd like to make a complete
>> break from the cable company but the only choice for fast internet is
>> the cable company.  Verizon hasn't made FIOS available in Brookhaven
>> Township where I live and they say they have no interest in doing it in
>> the future.  East of the township, FIOS is available.  I stopped using
>> cable TV service a couple of years ago.  I got frustrated with the new
>> cable boxes.  The older Scientific Atlanta boxes were bad enough,
>> particularly the DVR units that would always breakdown.  I was replacing
>> them every year.  They had internal hard drives, the recordings were not
>> on the cable company's servers.  The replacement Samsung boxes were
>> better in some respects - smaller and DVR was on the company servers so
>> you needed only one DVR unit but could watch recordings in any room.
>> But the worst thing about those boxes was how long it took to change a
>> channel.  It was almost five seconds which may not seem long but it is.
>> I finally tossed them and got DirecTV and have been very happy.  When I
>> move to TN next year, I'll keep DirecTV for one reason - hockey.  I can
>> get MSG network which broadcasts the NY Rangers on satellite but it's
>> not offered on a local cable company outside the NY tri-state area.
> get your own docsis cable box

You cannot use a third party box with Optimum, their service only works 
with the boxes you have to rent from them.  DOCSIS is not the same but 
I'm not familiar with that.  As for those Samsung boxes being terribly 
lagging, that was a software issue.  They put the boxes into use too 
soon.  They've improved the software but too late for me to stay with 
their service.

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#32374

FromKen Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
Date2016-07-20 08:11 -0700
Message-ID<v25voblavab077n8ng6k7smqgelrimf3e8@4ax.com>
In reply to#32338
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 04:16:52 -0400, Micky
<NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:59:21 +0200, Steve Hayes
><hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>

>Verizon keeps doing various things to get people to FIOS so they can
>take away copper, but I've put anti-tank barricades in my front yard
>to keep them from doing that here.    The DSL is cheap, but the phone
>service is expensive. 


I get DSL service from my local phone company, but my phone service
from a VoIP provider.

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#32433

FromMicky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-20 15:32 -0400
Message-ID<dckvobde10s12ghonssa8n9rmhag1r4scu@4ax.com>
In reply to#32374
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 08:11:41 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 04:16:52 -0400, Micky
><NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:59:21 +0200, Steve Hayes
>><hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>
>
>>Verizon keeps doing various things to get people to FIOS so they can
>>take away copper, but I've put anti-tank barricades in my front yard
>>to keep them from doing that here.    The DSL is cheap, but the phone
>>service is expensive. 
>
>
>I get DSL service from my local phone company, but my phone service
>from a VoIP provider.

So how much do they charge for your DSL, and what company/region is
this? 

I can't imagine that they won't raise my DSL charge to 2 or 3 times
the current price if I dropped their phone service.

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#32459

FromKen Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
Date2016-07-20 16:41 -0700
Message-ID<vu20pbt06jc4puq5eb8bfbumgls6b8vef5@4ax.com>
In reply to#32433
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:32:34 -0400, Micky
<NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 08:11:41 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 04:16:52 -0400, Micky
>><NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:59:21 +0200, Steve Hayes
>>><hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>Verizon keeps doing various things to get people to FIOS so they can
>>>take away copper, but I've put anti-tank barricades in my front yard
>>>to keep them from doing that here.    The DSL is cheap, but the phone
>>>service is expensive. 
>>
>>
>>I get DSL service from my local phone company, but my phone service
>>from a VoIP provider.
>
>So how much do they charge for your DSL, 


I don't have a bill handy and I can't remember exactly, but I think
it's around $25 a month.


>and what company/region is
>this? 


Century Link/Arizona

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#32468

FromSteve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
Date2016-07-21 07:09 +0200
Message-ID<0ql0pb1psl12sg73jvbssr24ca5n3cnneu@4ax.com>
In reply to#32459
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:41:54 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:32:34 -0400, Micky
><NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 08:11:41 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 04:16:52 -0400, Micky
>>><NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:59:21 +0200, Steve Hayes
>>>><hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>Verizon keeps doing various things to get people to FIOS so they can
>>>>take away copper, but I've put anti-tank barricades in my front yard
>>>>to keep them from doing that here.    The DSL is cheap, but the phone
>>>>service is expensive. 
>>>
>>>
>>>I get DSL service from my local phone company, but my phone service
>>>from a VoIP provider.
>>
>>So how much do they charge for your DSL, 
>
>
>I don't have a bill handy and I can't remember exactly, but I think
>it's around $25 a month.

We pay about $US 63.00 (57 Euro) for 100Gb data a month (more costs
extra) and unlimited phone calls to South African POTS numbers. 

That also includes 100 minutes of cell calls on each of two separate
SIM cards and 100 GB of data on a gizmo that one can plug into a
laptop when travelling within South Africa -- we used it last year in
places where no Wi-Fi was available. 




Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com

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#32489

FromTim <timothybil@yahoo.com>
Date2016-07-21 09:09 -0500
Message-ID<XnsA64C5D37E3B04timothybilyahoocom@216.166.97.131>
In reply to#32468
I live in a small town in Iowa, and my only choices are POTS DSL or Dish. I 
get 12mb/sec down and .7mb/sec up for $76 USD, but have to pay for any long 
distance voice calls. I have a feature phone I use instead for that.

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#32518

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-21 12:46 -0700
Message-ID<nmr8r1$teg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32489
Tired of telemarketing calls so I just ordered this from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00U1PPWDO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Anybody know if I just did something stupid?

So far I haven't received any telemarketing calls on my cell, but we get 
dozens/day on the "landline" phone, mostly of the 'dead air' variety.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "If you expect to score points by whining, join a European soccer team."
                                                   --Demotivators poster

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#32534

FromMicky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-21 22:23 -0400
Message-ID<ast2pbtgahq13ts53dahta5176ekpvnkn2@4ax.com>
In reply to#32518
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 12:46:39 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

>Tired of telemarketing calls so I just ordered this from Amazon:
>
>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00U1PPWDO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
>Anybody know if I just did something stupid?

It depends.  Did you order it within 14 hours and choose Same Day
Delivery? 

It sounds pretty good to me.  Unless you have more than 1500 people
spamming you. 

I only get about 3 to 10 a week, and I don't know what numbers they
are, or I'd get one. .... well, maybe not.  The answer to the first
question wasn't as good as I thought it would be, but that's because I
really want everyone to get through.  If I gave out my number, I'd
just say to punch zero and call back.    I checked all 3 answers.
Sometimes answers directly contradict each other.  

>So far I haven't received any telemarketing calls on my cell, but we get 
>dozens/day on the "landline" phone, mostly of the 'dead air' variety.

YOu must be slow to pick up.  They dial 5 or 10 at the same time and
whoever answers first wins.

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