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Re: iPhone USB access

From Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: iPhone USB access
Date 2024-12-21 13:00 -0800
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <vk7aa3$6nvr$2@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 2024-12-21 12:24, Andrew wrote:
> Theo wrote on 21 Dec 2024 12:52:51 +0000 (GMT) :
> 
>>> I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles 
>>> about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering 
>>> why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, 
>>> do I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?
>>
>> iPhones don't have a filesystem.
>>
>> Well, of course they do, but they really don't want you to see it.
>>
>> The way iOS works is it's very app-centric.  Apps own their own 
>> buckets of
>> data which only they can see.  The way to move things between apps is the
>> 'Share' function, rather than app B opening a file saved by app A.
>>
>> Of course files do exist outside the iOS world, so places like Photos,
>> Videos, Music and Downloads have some kind of specialness in that apps 
>> can
>> ask to open files from there (not generically - a photo app can't see
>> Music).  But apps can't open files from other random places, and 
>> especially
>> not files in the buckets belonging to other apps.
> 
> Has anyone here ever *seen* the iOS DCIM file system organization?
>           *If not, you're in for a big surprise!*
> 
> Files all over the place, in almost randomly named folders (such as
> _201901) with randomly named image file names (such as IMG1234.JPG).
> <https://i.postimg.cc/PJ4hWyS0/Apple-Iphone.jpg>

How are those "randomly named".

It appears that they're named in the absolutely ordinary way of 
sequentially numbered.

> 
> No other operating system refuses to allow you to name your image files.
> Just Apple.
> 
> Meanwhile, every other operating system (except Apple's) allows the user to
> define how they want photo images to be named (using a sensible convention)
> <https://i.postimg.cc/zfgrt8dC/Samsung.jpg>

That doesn't show any proof that it's user configurable. It appears it's 
simply a YYYYMMDD_HHMMSS naming convention.

And that seems pretty redundant as files already have 
creation/modification date/time metadata associated with them.

:-)

> 
> Some day Apple will care about the consumer. But that day hasn't arrived 
> yet.

LOL!

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iPhone USB access B00ze <B00ze64@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-20 21:50 -0500
  Re: iPhone USB access VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-20 21:35 -0600
    Re: iPhone USB access Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-12-21 07:37 +0000
      Re: iPhone USB access VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-21 03:51 -0600
        Re: iPhone USB access Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-12-21 11:18 +0000
          Re: iPhone USB access Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-21 12:27 +0100
            Re: iPhone USB access Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-12-21 12:47 +0000
              Re: iPhone USB access "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-21 14:10 +0100
                Re: iPhone USB access Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-21 16:22 +0000
          Re: iPhone USB access VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-21 11:54 -0600
            Re: iPhone USB access Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-21 19:19 +0000
              Re: iPhone USB access VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-21 14:25 -0600
                Re: iPhone USB access Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> - 2024-12-21 20:30 +0000
                Re: iPhone USB access Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-22 11:07 +0000
                Re: iPhone USB access VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-22 19:15 -0600
                Re: iPhone USB access Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-23 14:40 +0000
                Re: iPhone USB access Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-23 16:59 +0000
        Re: iPhone USB access Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-21 12:25 +0100
  Re: iPhone USB access Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-21 08:39 +0100
  Re: iPhone USB access Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2024-12-21 11:25 +0000
    Re: iPhone USB access Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-21 12:29 +0100
    Re: iPhone USB access Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-21 18:04 +0000
      Re: iPhone USB access Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2024-12-21 18:37 +0000
        Re: iPhone USB access Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 10:41 -0800
          Re: iPhone USB access Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2024-12-21 18:52 +0000
            Re: iPhone USB access Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-21 20:15 +0000
              Re: iPhone USB access Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 12:32 -0800
                Re: iPhone USB access Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2024-12-22 18:57 +0000
                Re: iPhone USB access Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 17:07 -0500
                Re: iPhone USB access Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-23 00:56 +0000
                Re: iPhone USB access Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-22 18:46 -0800
  Re: iPhone USB access Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2024-12-21 12:52 +0000
    Re: iPhone USB access "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-21 14:15 +0100
      Re: iPhone USB access Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-21 15:26 +0100
        Re: iPhone USB access Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2024-12-21 18:44 +0000
          Re: iPhone USB access Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-21 21:55 +0100
    Re: iPhone USB access Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-21 20:24 +0000
      Re: iPhone USB access Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 13:00 -0800
    Re: iPhone USB access Quincy the fifth <quincythefifth@telekom.net> - 2024-12-21 21:26 +0100
  Re: iPhone USB access Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-22 20:19 +0000
    Re: iPhone USB access Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-23 01:01 +0000
      Re: iPhone USB access Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-22 17:17 -0800
  Re: iPhone USB access B00ze <B00ze64@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-23 22:12 -0500

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