Re: iPhone USB access

From	Andrew <andys@nospam.com>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject	Re: iPhone USB access
Date	2024-12-21 16:22 +0000
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Carlos E.R. wrote on Sat, 21 Dec 2024 14:10:56 +0100 :

>> J�rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> Wrote in message:
>> 
>>> On 21.12.24 12:18, Dave Royal wrote:
>>>> VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> Wrote in message:
>>>>
>>>>> Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> B00ze <B00ze64@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles
>>>>>>>> about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering
>>>>>>>> why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do
>>>>>>>> I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. All you see are photos and videos from the camera.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/welcome
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you don't need to go there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple likes their walled garden.  The article below mentions iTunes.
>>>>> The OP didn't mention his PC's OS.  iTunes runs on Windows.  Maybe runs
>>>>> under WINE on Linux.  By its name, not sure if it only allows access to
>>>>> media folders, or to all folders.  Never bothered with anything Apple.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/transfer-files-between-devices-iphf2d851b9/ios
>>>>
>>>> Well, iOS is clearly off-topic as VanguardLH's first answer hints.
>>>>    So I'll just say, as someone who uses an Android tablet, an
>>>>    iPhone, Linux and Windows PCs  (though not a Mac) that the iOS is
>>>>    the most difficult to get stuff into and out off and and between
>>>>    apps - by design - especially if you don't want to use a cloud
>>>>    service such as Dropbox. I often use FTP.
>>>
>>> Total nonsense. No reasonable person would do this. You can try but it
>>> is only for people with a lot of spare time.
>>>
>> 
>> You're right: normal iPhone users would not do it. I mentioned it
>>   because it's the nearest equivalent to transferring (non-camera)
>>   files from an Android to a PC via USB. And I only do it to get
>>   certain files onto or off my iPhone without using a cloud service
>>   - iCloud, Dropbox, etc.  Using a cloud service is the easy way to
>>   do it.
>> 
>> Several iOS apps have FTP functions built it, such as my media
>>   player, foobar2000.
> 
> So, you can not simply connect an USB cable to phone and computer and 
> the explorer pops up and handle the copy of any file in any direction?
> 
> How weird.

For the Android team to know (based on years of experience with iOS)... 

As you're all well aware, I own plenty of Windows, iOS & Android devices.
And I don't use the cloud for anything - so I use USB & Wi-Fi file xfers.

I concur with all that said prior to this point in this thread (except
anything the moron Joerg Lorenz or Alan Baker ever says, both of whom are
in my killfile which has fewer than a dozen people in it for decades on
Usenet - they're that worthless) that Apple makes bidirectional file
transfer inordinately difficult - particularly for putting media onto the
Apple device - which can't be done directly.

Worse - if you add the iTunes abomination to Windows, you're subject to
multiple zero-day holes as Apple's support has been historically terrible.

However, if you dual boot your PC to Ubuntu, if you know a few very
delicate tricks not widely known, you can get limited bidirectional USB
file transfer due to the Linux iFuse implementation Windows lacks.

Why Windows lacks iFuse is a mystery to me only those more knowledgeable
than I am can answer for the team, as iFuse is what Windows needs for this.

 <https://i.postimg.cc/NFkXsJ0X/files01.jpg> iOS/Win is 1-way & DCIM only
 <https://i.postimg.cc/L8b18Zmx/files02.jpg> iOS "Files" is nothing useful
 <https://i.postimg.cc/d3SGkdgr/files03.jpg> Android is two way, everything
 <https://i.postimg.cc/QMk7tvZW/files04.jpg> Ubuntu is two way, everything
 <https://i.postimg.cc/qqg61Rh8/files05.jpg> Ubuntu, movies _to_ iOS on USB
 <https://i.postimg.cc/Jhmy9KH7/files06.jpg> Ubuntu iFuse is just magical
 <https://i.postimg.cc/KjK4nHwf/files07.jpg> Ubuntu is two-way, everything
 <https://i.postimg.cc/3xcCBngd/files08.jpg> iOS is a dumb brick on Windows
 <https://i.postimg.cc/mDx3xkp4/files09.jpg> iOS is only DCIM & only 1-way 
 <https://i.postimg.cc/9MGdc2s7/files10.jpg> Android is 2-way fast over USB
 <https://i.postimg.cc/cChf8mx1/files11.jpg> iOS requires hacks to copy
 <https://i.postimg.cc/pVJf72fN/files12.jpg> iOS hacks very often will fail
 <https://i.postimg.cc/g269S8rT/files13.jpg> How does macOS work with iOS?
 <https://i.postimg.cc/s2x0f9Js/files14.jpg> Linux, win10 & iOS together
 <https://i.postimg.cc/fRtZFGSt/sharepod01.jpg> ditch itunes abomination

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iPhone USB access B00ze <B00ze64@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-20 21:50 -0500
  Re: iPhone USB access VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-20 21:35 -0600
    Re: iPhone USB access Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-12-21 07:37 +0000
      Re: iPhone USB access VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-21 03:51 -0600
        Re: iPhone USB access Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-12-21 11:18 +0000
          Re: iPhone USB access Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-21 12:27 +0100
            Re: iPhone USB access Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-12-21 12:47 +0000
              Re: iPhone USB access "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-21 14:10 +0100
                Re: iPhone USB access Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-21 16:22 +0000
          Re: iPhone USB access VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-21 11:54 -0600
            Re: iPhone USB access Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-21 19:19 +0000
              Re: iPhone USB access VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-21 14:25 -0600
                Re: iPhone USB access Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa> - 2024-12-21 20:30 +0000
                Re: iPhone USB access Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-22 11:07 +0000
                Re: iPhone USB access VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-22 19:15 -0600
                Re: iPhone USB access Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-23 14:40 +0000
                Re: iPhone USB access Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-23 16:59 +0000
        Re: iPhone USB access Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-21 12:25 +0100
  Re: iPhone USB access Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-21 08:39 +0100
  Re: iPhone USB access Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2024-12-21 11:25 +0000
    Re: iPhone USB access Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-21 12:29 +0100
    Re: iPhone USB access Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-21 18:04 +0000
      Re: iPhone USB access Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2024-12-21 18:37 +0000
        Re: iPhone USB access Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 10:41 -0800
          Re: iPhone USB access Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2024-12-21 18:52 +0000
            Re: iPhone USB access Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-21 20:15 +0000
              Re: iPhone USB access Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 12:32 -0800
                Re: iPhone USB access Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2024-12-22 18:57 +0000
                Re: iPhone USB access Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 17:07 -0500
                Re: iPhone USB access Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-23 00:56 +0000
                Re: iPhone USB access Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-22 18:46 -0800
  Re: iPhone USB access Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2024-12-21 12:52 +0000
    Re: iPhone USB access "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-21 14:15 +0100
      Re: iPhone USB access Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-21 15:26 +0100
        Re: iPhone USB access Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2024-12-21 18:44 +0000
          Re: iPhone USB access Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-21 21:55 +0100
    Re: iPhone USB access Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-21 20:24 +0000
      Re: iPhone USB access Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 13:00 -0800
    Re: iPhone USB access Quincy the fifth <quincythefifth@telekom.net> - 2024-12-21 21:26 +0100
  Re: iPhone USB access Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-22 20:19 +0000
    Re: iPhone USB access Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-23 01:01 +0000
      Re: iPhone USB access Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-22 17:17 -0800
  Re: iPhone USB access B00ze <B00ze64@hotmail.com> - 2024-12-23 22:12 -0500

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