Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities?

From	Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities?
Date	2016-07-19 23:00 +0000
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 10:55:45 -0400, nospam wrote:

> you're just playing games.

Notice you never prove anything.
I gave you hints, upon hints, and even threw in a winger which, if you knew
anything about institutes of higher learning, you'd recognize as strange in
an instant.

Anyway, what I'm learning from the iOS users such as you and Jolly Roger,
is that you all seem to exhibit three traits:

a. The aforementioned herd mentality
b. The aforementioned cachet mentality
And, a new realization:
c. A strong desire for vector solutions

I'll come up with a better description, and I mostly learn from Jolly
Roger's posts because you're far more complex than he is. For example, you
actually post technical value, and, you do so even on Android forums,
whereas Jolly Roger isn't capable of matching your technical acumen.

What I see in Jolly Roger that I also see in you is a befuddling
incapability of seeing a solution that has any hint of complexity to it.

This strong desire for single-vector solutions is exemplified in the
one-button mouse, and in the lack of a back button on the iPad, for
example.

What I see in JR in spades, and less so in you (since you clearly *can*
handle complex solutions), is a thinking process that immediately discounts
complexity.

So, for example, if I list a dozen things that contribute to the ability to
organize a mobile device, you can't think that way. You devolve into one of
the vectors only. In this case, it's the App Drawer, but it really doesn't
matter which one since this is a psychological question.

What Jolly Roger does is so simple that it doesn't really describe you.
What he does is he shows, in every single post, that he can only think
along the lines of a single vector (like having a single mouse button).

You, on the other hand, *can* think in multiple vectors, but you never do. 

What you do is single out a single vector (e.g., the App Drawer concept),
and then, what you do is amazing ... you go down so many non sequiturs on
that one-of-a-dozen vectors - that you actually think you've proven your
point. 

You go down the rathole of whether there is one or more than one App
Drawer.
You go down the route that not all app drawers allow any organizational
style.
You even go down the route of where "I" got my formal education, and in
what fields.

Yet, just like JR does, you conveniently forget about the other dozen
vectors that contribute to organization on a mobile device (e.g., hidden
app icons, a variety of launchers, placeholder folders, ability to put
icons in multiple places, automatic offline archivers, controlling data
access, file redirectors, etc.).

So, *both* of you are single-vector beasts, which, I guess, makes sense
given that you're average iOS users.

While JR is so easy to figure out that it's not even a challenge, you're
more complex than he is - even as you both exhibit this single-vector way
of thinking, which Steve Jobs nailed from the start about the nature of
Apple Enthusiasts.

a. Single-vector one-mouse-button thinking process
b. Herd mentality
c. Cachet is everything

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Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-14 23:20 +0000
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 19:22 -0400
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                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 03:41 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 05:17 +0000
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:43 +0000
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 01:55 +0000
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 21:56 -0400
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 02:04 +0000
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 22:09 -0400
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-07-15 01:32 -0400
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:32 +0000
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 15:37 -0400
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-07-15 13:17 -0700
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 03:58 +0000
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-15 10:42 +0200
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:34 +0000
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 01:08 -0400
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-17 03:12 +0000
  SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? (was: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities?) Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 20:07 +0000
    Re: SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 04:29 +0000
    Re: SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-16 02:42 -0400
      Re: SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 20:31 +0000

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