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Re: navigation

From "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: navigation
Date 2018-11-05 19:04 +0100
Message-ID <g4bf0sFtrahU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (11 earlier) <prnj2s$46d$1@dont-email.me> <f9i5bf-n7t.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <qNB60TNTuB4bFwD0@255soft.uk> <g4b331Fr7p0U1@mid.individual.net> <Q8hk4DaQgF4bFwGf@255soft.uk>

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On 05/11/2018 15.47, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message <g4b331Fr7p0U1@mid.individual.net>, Carlos E. R.
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>> On 05/11/2018 11.29, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>> In message <f9i5bf-n7t.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
> []
>>>> TomTom uses its own service. The gadgets sends current location and
>>>> speed; the server assesses conditions, and tells others if there is a
>>>> jam. But a percent has to get caught.
>>>>
>>>> If you refuse to share your location/speed, then you do not get jam
>>>> info
>>>> either. You have to contribute ;-)
>>>>
>>> What network do they pass this information over (in both directions)?
>>> Presumably you have to pay at least an annual subscription, or do they
>>> come with x years' subscription and after that you don't get the
>>> information?
>>
>> The model I have, a 1000 live something has a SIM inside, and low speed
>> internet connection, I think with Orange, valid on most of Europe (even
>> before the agreement/regulation on no roaming costs in the EU). It needs
> 
> So only works when within reach of a tower (the jam information at
> least). OK, so when not in reach of a tower you _probably_ aren't going
> to encounter jams (though maybe more likely to find the road washed away
> or a bridge out or similar?).

Correct. But tower coverage in Spain is well over 90%, so not a frequent
issue.

What is indeed an issue is the quality of the service: not good. For
example, I passed a road today that is marked "on repair", but the
repairs finished before summer. I reported this, they did nothing. They
typically take two years to act on report of map errors, even four. But
even for things that are loaded dynamically every time we power up the
device, like job repairs, they take months.

A road on on repair that theoretically causes delays makes the device to
try to detour if possible.

> 
>> a yearly subscription, I don't remember the price. 50€/year?
> 
> I don't think I'd forget a 50-a-year subscription. We're all different!

Fish memory, they say ;-)

I can find out.

Map updates 1 year and ½year offer, 33€.

Last Live update, 49.95€. That was on 2017, I can't find this year
receipt; but the search mail feature in this laptop is not working right.


-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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