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| Started by | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| First post | 2019-05-11 22:20 -0400 |
| Last post | 2019-05-13 11:19 +0000 |
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Microsoft UWP is probably abandoned RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-05-11 22:20 -0400
Re: Microsoft UWP is probably abandoned Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> - 2019-05-12 10:37 +0100
Re: Microsoft UWP is probably abandoned Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-05-13 11:19 +0000
| From | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| Date | 2019-05-11 22:20 -0400 |
| Subject | Microsoft UWP is probably abandoned |
| Message-ID | <qgckqf-jio.ln1@rasp.therandymon.com> |
From the «but will it play for sure?» department: Title: Microsoft Throws in the Towel on UWP, Elevates Win32 Author: Fnord666 Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 20:37:00 -0400 Link: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/05/11/0320247&from=rss martyb[1] writes: Microsoft Throws in the Towel on UWP, Elevates Win32[2]: Years ago — back before the launch of Windows 8 — Microsoft announced that going forward, app development would be driven by fundamentally different rules and capabilities than what had been the case before. Applications distributed via the Windows Store would be written to new standards, with new rules about what data they could access and which languages were supported. Older Win32 apps would still run, but they were ultimately intended to be replaced by an entirely new suite of applications written under new design rules, and distributed through the Windows Store. Pretty much none of this actually happened. The Windows Store went on to become a dead-letter trainwreck of applications no one wanted or used. It was stuffed with counterfeit apps for applications like Facebook that pretended to be genuine products. Microsoft recently removed its own Office installer from the Windows Store. Over the years, Microsoft has tried rebranding its own software development push in various ways, but none of it has sparked much interest in creating UWP (Universal Windows Platform) apps. Now, the company is taking multiple steps to allow Win32 applications to take advantage of the same features it's rolled out for UWP in the past. While Microsoft isn't admitting defeat in its effort to push everyone into using the Windows Store, that's what this practically amounts to. "You've told us that you would like us to continue to decouple many parts of the Universal Windows Platform so that you can adopt them incrementally," Microsoft corporate vice president Kevin Gallo wrote[3] this week, in a developer-centric blog post. "Allowing you to use our platform and tools to meet you where your customers are going – empowering you to deliver rich, intelligent experiences that put people at the center." But doesn't everyone want a program that plays for sure on Windows? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Original Submission[4] Read more of this story[5] at SoylentNews. Links: [1]: http://soylentnews.org/~martyb/ (link) [2]: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/291124-microsoft-throws-in-the-towel-on-uwp-elevates-win32 (link) [3]: https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2019/05/06/developing-people-centered-experiences-with-microsoft-365/#T5kJZEdof2Ssma4K.97 (link) [4]: http://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=33663 (link) [5]: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/05/11/0320247&from=rss (link) -- Burger? You burger, you brought'er.
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| From | Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-05-12 10:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <gjq7q3Fhn9vU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #17963 |
On 12/05/2019 03:20, RS Wood wrote: > From the «but will it play for sure?» department: > Title: Microsoft Throws in the Towel on UWP, Elevates Win32 > Author: Fnord666 > Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 20:37:00 -0400 > Link: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/05/11/0320247&from=rss > > martyb[1] writes: > > Microsoft Throws in the Towel on UWP, Elevates Win32[2]: > > Years ago — back before the launch of Windows 8 — Microsoft announced that > going forward, app development would be driven by fundamentally different > rules and capabilities than what had been the case before. Applications > distributed via the Windows Store would be written to new standards, with new > rules All this coupling to enable a touch smart phone like experience for Windows got ditched some time back, now the actual universal apps are going. Hurrah! A long time back Microsoft fiddled around with desktop gadgets, which was another dead end. And further back, Active Desktop - remember that? From Windows 8 onwards, Microsoft created the new Metro design language, and crippled the start menu... I'd suggest this next needs undo'ing. (Or, can i install a linux window manager, e.g. LXDE on Windows?) -- Adrian C
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2019-05-13 11:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnqdikm7.n0k.dan@djph.net> |
| In reply to | #17969 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Adrian Caspersz wrote: > On 12/05/2019 03:20, RS Wood wrote: >> [...] >> Years ago — back before the launch of Windows 8 — Microsoft announced >> that going forward, app development would be driven by fundamentally >> different rules and capabilities than what had been the case before. >> Applications distributed via the Windows Store would be written to >> new standards, with new rules [...] > [...] > From Windows 8 onwards, Microsoft created the new Metro design > language, and crippled the start menu... > > I'd suggest this next needs undo'ing. > > (Or, can i install a linux window manager, e.g. LXDE on Windows?) Well, if you'd be so kind as to install Windows-Super-Telemetry-2019 ... apparently the answer is "yes" (or a resounding "maybe"). Least the few news articles that do reach my desk about WSL2.0 seem to indicate they're looking at practically a full-featured VM approach. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEBcqaUD8uEzVNxUrujhHd8xJ5ooEFAlzZUscACgkQjhHd8xJ5 ooEiGwgAjkDmR0JZK+7FSzq4qFQJCQKrwbmooco2lBIRymfS+rsW64qcgWGlTsMd /m923+Hfu9J+8yB+WH9Lj6WxwW6yJ34J76+r7TsMCcQmbDf1alnubIe1jszm2eto 4RmRSyxdlALnndLho1yPoBrMp6Kg+Go5JC3nelzy/RmfEeetBvqSucLBosINAmfG UNsF2tQh8x8gs2ObIB514Jj2lx78l7KmHuRIWc3ikCaETzamXD6sBm1punlMGhUX ZPiMYF938Mplm7/eka8Olyg6dC3jmhSt9vAvSW+Dyi9Xt1/Wy3n1pDlKz5rxasaz KQHjyVlhjioYIHlM+62piy08IENYxg== =70ZA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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