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  verdict in new gTLDs: no .music, .gay, .art, .kids, or .taxi RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-10-08 16:37 +0000
    Re: verdict in new gTLDs: no .music, .gay, .art, .kids, or .taxi Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-10 15:40 -0700
      Re: verdict in new gTLDs: no .music, .gay, .art, .kids, or .taxi Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-10-11 19:38 +0200
        Re: verdict in new gTLDs: no .music, .gay, .art, .kids, or .taxi Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-12 21:31 -0700
          Re: verdict in new gTLDs: no .music, .gay, .art, .kids, or .taxi "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2014-11-01 15:49 +0000

#5267 — verdict in new gTLDs: no .music, .gay, .art, .kids, or .taxi

Interesting article, interesting decision, interesting ramifications.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/08/icann_gltd_latest/

To pass the test, each dot-word applicant had to prove they represented
a specific community related to the word. If successful, they would be
given priority over anyone else that had applied for the same top-level
domain name.

Considering the commercial possibilities of domains ending with
"music", "tennis", "art" and others – with recent auctions for gTLDs
reaching into the millions of dollars – the stakes are high. And with a
high bar of 14 out of 16 points required to pass the test, most failed.

The dot-words that did not pass the community test will move forward to
an auction some time next year, and those with the deepest pockets will
be able to snap them up.

-- 
RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>

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#5293

On 2014-10-08 16:37:22 +0000, RS Wood said:

> Interesting article, interesting decision, interesting ramifications.
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/08/icann_gltd_latest/
> 
> To pass the test, each dot-word applicant had to prove they represented
> a specific community related to the word. If successful, they would be
> given priority over anyone else that had applied for the same top-level
> domain name.
> 
> Considering the commercial possibilities of domains ending with
> "music", "tennis", "art" and others – with recent auctions for gTLDs
> reaching into the millions of dollars – the stakes are high. And with a
> high bar of 14 out of 16 points required to pass the test, most failed.
> 
> The dot-words that did not pass the community test will move forward to
> an auction some time next year, and those with the deepest pockets will
> be able to snap them up.

Seriously, .gay?  Are we going to get .jew and .negro next so we can 
force everybody into their own little ghettoes?

Too many TLDs, this is just ridiculous.  .edu, .com, .net, and .org 
seem like all we need.  Though there is an upside - the domain name 
squatters will run out and get everything they can, so we can say that 
industry won't fail any time soon.

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#5299

On 2014-10-10, Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 2014-10-08 16:37:22 +0000, RS Wood said:
>
>> Interesting article, interesting decision, interesting ramifications.
>> 
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/08/icann_gltd_latest/
>> 
>> To pass the test, each dot-word applicant had to prove they represented
>> a specific community related to the word. If successful, they would be
>> given priority over anyone else that had applied for the same top-level
>> domain name.
>> 
>> Considering the commercial possibilities of domains ending with
>> "music", "tennis", "art" and others – with recent auctions for gTLDs
>> reaching into the millions of dollars – the stakes are high. And with a
>> high bar of 14 out of 16 points required to pass the test, most failed.
>> 
>> The dot-words that did not pass the community test will move forward to
>> an auction some time next year, and those with the deepest pockets will
>> be able to snap them up.
>
> Seriously, .gay?  Are we going to get .jew and .negro next so we can 
> force everybody into their own little ghettoes?
>
> Too many TLDs, this is just ridiculous.  .edu, .com, .net, and .org 
> seem like all we need.

No. The world outside the US has got quite fond of its 2 letter country
name TLDs.  Living in Europe as I do it's a very handy identifier.  I find
it particularly handy when searching for suppliers, as it takes zero effort
to see whether a potential supplier is in my country or not.

>  Though there is an upside - the domain name squatters will run out and
>  get everything they can, so we can say that industry won't fail any
>  time soon.

The particular offender I have come across managed to snaffle the obvious
domain nane for my registrar before they got split off from a university
into an independent(ish) commercial entity.  Before I realised what had
gone on I found myself on a site which was claiming that any English word
I cared to enter was already taken, but was of course up for sale.  :-(

Unfortunately the current country registrar will shortly lose the power
of managing domain names and we will have to choose from a selection of
commercial registrars.  I do not look forward to that.


-- 
An invention needs to make sense in the world in which it's finished,
not the world in which it's started.                  -- Ray Kurzweil

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#5309

On 2014-10-11 17:38:17 +0000, Paul Sture said:

> No. The world outside the US has got quite fond of its 2 letter country
> name TLDs.  Living in Europe as I do it's a very handy identifier.  I find
> it particularly handy when searching for suppliers, as it takes zero effort
> to see whether a potential supplier is in my country or not.

I'm sorry for failing to mention it, but I do see the utility of these 
two letter TLDs.  I might add that I believe that they should be 
limited in use to entities that are actually inside the country 
however.  There's too much cutesy shit going around with them.  fu.ck 
th.at

> The particular offender I have come across managed to snaffle the obvious
> domain nane for my registrar before they got split off from a university
> into an independent(ish) commercial entity.  Before I realised what had
> gone on I found myself on a site which was claiming that any English word
> I cared to enter was already taken, but was of course up for sale.  :-(
> 
> Unfortunately the current country registrar will shortly lose the power
> of managing domain names and we will have to choose from a selection of
> commercial registrars.  I do not look forward to that.

I believe that the domain name squatters are shells of the commercial 
registrars.

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#5502

Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 2014-10-11 17:38:17 +0000, Paul Sture said:

>>No. The world outside the US has got quite fond of its 2 letter country
>>name TLDs.  Living in Europe as I do it's a very handy identifier.  I find
>>it particularly handy when searching for suppliers, as it takes zero effort
>>to see whether a potential supplier is in my country or not.

>I'm sorry for failing to mention it, but I do see the utility of these 
>two letter TLDs.  I might add that I believe that they should be 
>limited in use to entities that are actually inside the country 
>however.  There's too much cutesy shit going around with them.  fu.ck 
>th.at

Since last year, a physical location in the United States has been
required for .us, apparently Patriot Act nonsense. I have a couple of
locality-based names. One of the registratars said new US Department of
Commerce regulations required me to file a notarized document to establish
residency; the other didn't. I didn't even know the first one required it
till they had briefly suspended routing, 'cuz they managed to lose my
email address. They also said I'd have to re-certify annually, but
they never set that up. It's not quite so nonsensical that I had to
prove residence in the locality itself, just the United States.

Prior to 2002, locality-based registrations were all that was available
under .us. Starting in 2002, second-level registrations were allowed.

Other countries with minor Internet access simply license their country
code TLD to a commercial registrar for income. Tuvalu found .tv to be
quite valuable.

Few countries require a physical presence to register
a domain name under their ccTLD.

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