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  Apple BootCamp now supports no Win OS but Win8 RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-19 10:16 +0000
    Re: Apple BootCamp now supports no Win OS but Win8 Alan Ralph <alan.ralph@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 15:16 +0000
      Re: Apple BootCamp now supports no Win OS but Win8 RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-21 08:53 +0000
        Re: Apple BootCamp now supports no Win OS but Win8 Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-21 16:32 +0100

#1788 — Apple BootCamp now supports no Win OS but Win8

From the «hope you like Metro!» department:
Title: New Mac Pro Boot Camp users now stuck with Windows 8
Author: Jacob Siegal
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:15:25 -0400
Link: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheBoyGeniusReport/~3/zuPUyt5G9tU/
Podcast Download URL: http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/71f664774c52a65e18df9f76fe247179?s=96&d=identicon&r=G

[image 2][1]

It looks like Apple[3] might have taken Microsoft's recent video[4] to heart
after all. MacRumors reports[5] that Apple's support page[6] for Boot Camp
has been updated to reflect the fact that the latest Mac Pro[7] will no
longer support Windows 7[8] or any older versions of the operating system.
Although all the previous models appear to have retained Windows 7 and Vista
support, MacRumors notes that this could be the first sign of future Mac
computers shedding support for the aging software altogether. Mac users who
depend on Boot Camp might start paying closer attention to those Windows 8
updates[9] from now on.
[image 10]

Links:
[1]: http://bgr.com/2014/03/17/mac-pro-drops-windows-7-support/ (link)
[2]: http://c2.bgr.com/2013/12/mac-pro-black.jpg?w=610 (image)
[3]: http://bgr.com/tag/apple (link)
[4]: http://bgr.com/2014/03/03/windows-8-commercial-apple-bashing/ (link)
[5]: http://www.macrumors.com/2014/03/17/mac-pro-drops-windows-7-support/ (link)
[6]: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5634 (link)
[7]: http://bgr.com/tag/mac-pro (link)
[8]: http://bgr.com/tag/windows-7 (link)
[9]: http://bgr.com/2014/03/12/windows-8-1-update-1-features/ (link)
[10]: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheBoyGeniusReport/~4/zuPUyt5G9tU (image)

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#1821

On 19/03/2014 10:16, RS Wood wrote:
>  From the «hope you like Metro!» department:
> Title: New Mac Pro Boot Camp users now stuck with Windows 8
> Author: Jacob Siegal
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:15:25 -0400
> Link: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheBoyGeniusReport/~3/zuPUyt5G9tU/
> Podcast Download URL: http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/71f664774c52a65e18df9f76fe247179?s=96&d=identicon&r=G
>
> [image 2][1]
>
> It looks like Apple[3] might have taken Microsoft's recent video[4] to heart
> after all. MacRumors reports[5] that Apple's support page[6] for Boot Camp
> has been updated to reflect the fact that the latest Mac Pro[7] will no
> longer support Windows 7[8] or any older versions of the operating system.
> Although all the previous models appear to have retained Windows 7 and Vista
> support, MacRumors notes that this could be the first sign of future Mac
> computers shedding support for the aging software altogether. Mac users who
> depend on Boot Camp might start paying closer attention to those Windows 8
> updates[9] from now on.

Seems an odd choice, since according to the Apple support page at 
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5634 the same current version 5 of Boot 
Camp still supports Windows 7 64-bit as well as Windows 8 64-bit on all 
other current Mac hardware. Then again, there's nothing to stop people 
installing Parallels Desktop or similar virtualisation software and 
running Windows 7 that way - and that would have the added advantage of 
allowing Windows apps to be used without having to restart your Mac Pro. 
The only downside would be that said apps would not be able to harness 
all of the Mac Pro's processing power.

Alan

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#1842

On 2014-03-20, Alan Ralph <alan.ralph@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 19/03/2014 10:16, RS Wood wrote:
>>  From the «hope you like Metro!» department:
>> It looks like Apple[3] might have taken Microsoft's recent video[4] to heart
>> after all. MacRumors reports[5] that Apple's support page[6] for Boot Camp
>> has been updated to reflect the fact that the latest Mac Pro[7] will no
>> longer support Windows 7[8] or any older versions of the operating system.
>> Although all the previous models appear to have retained Windows 7 and Vista
>> support, MacRumors notes that this could be the first sign of future Mac
>> computers shedding support for the aging software altogether. Mac users who
>> depend on Boot Camp might start paying closer attention to those Windows 8
>> updates[9] from now on.
>
> Seems an odd choice, since according to the Apple support page at
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5634 the same current version 5 of Boot Camp
> still supports Windows 7 64-bit as well as Windows 8 64-bit on all other
> current Mac hardware. Then again, there's nothing to stop people installing
> Parallels Desktop or similar virtualisation software and running Windows 7
> that way - and that would have the added advantage of allowing Windows apps
> to be used without having to restart your Mac Pro.  The only downside would
> be that said apps would not be able to harness all of the Mac Pro's
> processing power.
>
> Alan
>

I happen to agree.  I've never seen anyone using Bootcamp but I see tons of
people running Win apps using Parallels.  Seems like the best of both worlds to
me - the OS X desktop but still ability to run whatever application your office
has foisted on you.

Wondering if all the fiddling with boot time parameters Microsoft has done
recently hasn't had an effect on being able to boot other OSes?

Imagine how much disk space you'd lose if you install both Mavericks and Win8.1
on your hardware.  

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#1861

On 2014-03-21, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On 2014-03-20, Alan Ralph <alan.ralph@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 19/03/2014 10:16, RS Wood wrote:
>>>  From the «hope you like Metro!» department:
>>> It looks like Apple[3] might have taken Microsoft's recent video[4] to heart
>>> after all. MacRumors reports[5] that Apple's support page[6] for Boot Camp
>>> has been updated to reflect the fact that the latest Mac Pro[7] will no
>>> longer support Windows 7[8] or any older versions of the operating system.
>>> Although all the previous models appear to have retained Windows 7 and Vista
>>> support, MacRumors notes that this could be the first sign of future Mac
>>> computers shedding support for the aging software altogether. Mac users who
>>> depend on Boot Camp might start paying closer attention to those Windows 8
>>> updates[9] from now on.
>>
>> Seems an odd choice, since according to the Apple support page at
>> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5634 the same current version 5 of Boot Camp
>> still supports Windows 7 64-bit as well as Windows 8 64-bit on all other
>> current Mac hardware. Then again, there's nothing to stop people installing
>> Parallels Desktop or similar virtualisation software and running Windows 7
>> that way - and that would have the added advantage of allowing Windows apps
>> to be used without having to restart your Mac Pro.  The only downside would
>> be that said apps would not be able to harness all of the Mac Pro's
>> processing power.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>
> I happen to agree.  I've never seen anyone using Bootcamp but I see tons
> of people running Win apps using Parallels.  Seems like the best of both
> worlds to me - the OS X desktop but still ability to run whatever
> application your office has foisted on you.

It seems to me that the only folks who really want Bootcamp are those who
already have a collection of Windows games and find the performance lacking
under a VM.

> Wondering if all the fiddling with boot time parameters Microsoft has done
> recently hasn't had an effect on being able to boot other OSes?

It certainly won't help.  I haven't run any dual boot systems for 3-4 years
now, when I was doing Windows + Linux, but the boot stuff was always a pain
in the neck.

> Imagine how much disk space you'd lose if you install both Mavericks and Win8.1
> on your hardware.  

It isn't so bad on a desktop or a tower where you can use separate disks,
but is a consideration on laptops.

-- 
Paul Sture

"In that case," said Napoleon, "let us wait twenty minutes; when the enemy
is making a false movement we must take good care not to interrupt him."

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