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dropbox, onedrive, google, icloud, amazon

Started byRS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com>
First post2014-02-28 20:08 +0000
Last post2014-03-03 17:33 +0000
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  dropbox, onedrive, google, icloud, amazon RS Wood  <rswood@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-28 20:08 +0000
    Re: dropbox, onedrive, google, icloud, amazon Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-02-28 20:32 +0000
      Re: dropbox, onedrive, google, icloud, amazon RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-01 14:57 +0000
        Re: dropbox, onedrive, google, icloud, amazon Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-01 16:55 +0000
        Re: dropbox, onedrive, google, icloud, amazon Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-01 18:01 +0000
    Re: dropbox  onedrive  google  icloud  amazon "jonh" <jon@nada-sub.co.uk> - 2014-03-03 10:23 -0600
      Re: dropbox  onedrive  google  icloud  amazon Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 16:50 +0000
      Re: dropbox onedrive google icloud amazon Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-03 17:33 +0000

#1111 — dropbox, onedrive, google, icloud, amazon

FromRS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com>
Date2014-02-28 20:08 +0000
Subjectdropbox, onedrive, google, icloud, amazon
Message-ID<leqqbd$8u3$1@solani.org>
From the "a place for my schtuff" department:
Title: Dropbox vs. Microsoft OneDrive vs. Google Drive vs. Apple iCloud vs. Amazon Cloud Drive
Author: Stu Robarts
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:43:13 -0500
Link: http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/57864423/0/gizmag~Dropbox-vs-Microsoft-OneDrive-vs-Google-Drive-vs-Apple-iCloud-vs-Amazon-Cloud-Drive/

[image 1]
Following Microsoft's recent relaunch of SkyDrive as OneDrive, there is a
little more parity and competition at the top of the cloud storage market.
How do the options stack up against each other though? This article provides
a comparison of the main players – Dropbox, Microsoft OneDrive, Google Drive,
Apple iCloud and Amazon Cloud Drive... Continue Reading Dropbox vs. Microsoft
OneDrive vs. Google Drive vs. Apple iCloud vs. Amazon Cloud Drive[2]

Section:Computers[3]

Tags:Cloud Computing[4], comparison[5], Software[6], Storage[7]

Related Articles:

* Google Drive provides alternative to Apple's iCloud[8]
* Space Monkey aims to put the cloud in your home[9]
* An introduction to Microsoft Office Online[10]
* Amazon launches Cloud Drive and Cloud Player[11]
* Apple to unveil OS X 10.7 Lion, iOS 5 and iCloud at WWDC[12]
* Pogoplug Mobile streams entire libraries of digital content to mobile
devices[13]

[image 14]

Links:
[1]: http://images.gizmag.com/hero/cloud-storage.jpg (image)
[2]: http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/t/0/0/gizmag/~www.gizmag.com/cloud-storage-comparison/31032/ (link)
[3]: http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/t/0/0/gizmag/~www.gizmag.com/computers/ (link)
[4]: http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/t/0/0/gizmag/~www.gizmag.com/tag/cloud+computing/ (link)
[5]: http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/t/0/0/gizmag/~www.gizmag.com/tag/comparison/ (link)
[6]: http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/t/0/0/gizmag/~www.gizmag.com/tag/software/ (link)
[7]: http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/t/0/0/gizmag/~www.gizmag.com/tag/storage/ (link)
[8]: http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/t/0/0/gizmag/~www.gizmag.com/google-drive/22388/ (link)
[9]: http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/t/0/0/gizmag/~www.gizmag.com/space-monkey-cloud-storage/27544/ (link)
[10]: http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/t/0/0/gizmag/~www.gizmag.com/introduction-microsoft-office-online/30937/ (link)
[11]: http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/t/0/0/gizmag/~www.gizmag.com/amazon-announces-cloud-drive-and-player/18271/ (link)
[12]: http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/t/0/0/gizmag/~www.gizmag.com/apple-osx-lion-ios-5-icloud-wwdc/18762/ (link)
[13]: http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/t/0/0/gizmag/~www.gizmag.com/pogoplug-mobile-ifa2011/19687/ (link)
[14]: http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/i/57864423/0/gizmag (image)

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#1115

FromStephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com>
Date2014-02-28 20:32 +0000
Message-ID<1177455070415312250.945841usenet-stephenthomascole.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#1111
RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> wrote:
> From the "a place for my schtuff" department:
> Title: Dropbox vs. Microsoft OneDrive vs. Google Drive vs. Apple iCloud
> vs. Amazon Cloud Drive
> Author: Stu Robarts
> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:43:13 -0500
> Link:
> http://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/57864423/0/gizmag~Dropbox-vs-Microsoft-OneDrive-vs-Google-Drive-vs-Apple-iCloud-vs-Amazon-Cloud-Drive/
> 
> [image 1]
> Following Microsoft's recent relaunch of SkyDrive as OneDrive, there is a
> little more parity and competition at the top of the cloud storage market.
> How do the options stack up against each other though? This article provides
> a comparison of the main players –<snip>

Jason Scott wrote the definitive article on "the cloud" a few years ago:
http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1717

Fuck the cloud, indeed. 

-- 
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

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#1121

FromRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date2014-03-01 14:57 +0000
Message-ID<lessge$r67$1@solani.org>
In reply to#1115
On 2014-02-28, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
> RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> From the "a place for my schtuff" department:
>> Title: Dropbox vs. Microsoft OneDrive vs. Google Drive vs. Apple iCloud
>> vs. Amazon Cloud Drive
>> Author: Stu Robarts
>> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:43:13 -0500
>> Link:
>> 
>> [image 1] Following Microsoft's recent relaunch of SkyDrive as
>> OneDrive, there is a little more parity and competition at the top of
>> the cloud storage market.  How do the options stack up against each
>> other though? This article provides a comparison of the main players
>> –<snip>
>
> Jason Scott wrote the definitive article on "the cloud" a few years
> ago: http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1717
>
> Fuck the cloud, indeed. 
>
That is a really great article.  Who is Jason Scott?  Seems like too
common a name to be able to Google.  Just an ordinary Netizen?  In fact,
that whole ascii.textfiles.com website seems really interesting, so
thanks very much for pointing me/us to it.

Definitive, indeed.  The idea of server-central computing is seductive
to me, but I like the idea of having a shell account somewhere, or a
thinclient on my desk, or whatever.  But given the realities of this
world I decided rather to build a fatty FreeNAS system at home and keep
it all in house.  I still do periodic backups to CD too, just in case.

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#1122

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2014-03-01 16:55 +0000
Message-ID<bnehnrFhlelU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1121
On 2014-03-01, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-28, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:


>> Jason Scott wrote the definitive article on "the cloud" a few years
>> ago: http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1717
>>
>> Fuck the cloud, indeed. 
>>
> That is a really great article.  Who is Jason Scott?  Seems like too
> common a name to be able to Google.  Just an ordinary Netizen?  In fact,
> that whole ascii.textfiles.com website seems really interesting, so
> thanks very much for pointing me/us to it.

Hear, hear.

-- 
Today is Setting Orange, the 60th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3180
"Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Peevishness For The
Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Ire That Are
Themselves The Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Wrath"

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#1124

FromStephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com>
Date2014-03-01 18:01 +0000
Message-ID<247988738415388577.526281usenet-stephenthomascole.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#1121
RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-28, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>> RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> wrote:
>>> From the "a place for my schtuff" department:
>>> Title: Dropbox vs. Microsoft OneDrive vs. Google Drive vs. Apple iCloud
>>> vs. Amazon Cloud Drive
>>> Author: Stu Robarts
>>> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:43:13 -0500
>>> Link:
>>> 
>>> [image 1] Following Microsoft's recent relaunch of SkyDrive as
>>> OneDrive, there is a little more parity and competition at the top of
>>> the cloud storage market.  How do the options stack up against each
>>> other though? This article provides a comparison of the main players
>>> –<snip>
>> 
>> Jason Scott wrote the definitive article on "the cloud" a few years
>> ago: http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1717
>> 
>> Fuck the cloud, indeed. 
>> 
> That is a really great article.  Who is Jason Scott?  Seems like too
> common a name to be able to Google. 

His full name is Jason Scott Sadofsky. I have no idea why he doesn't ride
the SEO train on that one!

> Just an ordinary Netizen?  In fact,
> that whole ascii.textfiles.com website seems really interesting, so
> thanks very much for pointing me/us to it.

No problem. Jason Scott is probably best described as a militant
archivist/computer historian. His blog is great reading as he's so
incredibly passionate, and often apoplectic, about the preservation of
computer history. Search out the series of articles on there he wrote about
GeoCities closure, essential reading. Likewise his various screeds about
Wikipedia. And he wrote at least a couple of *great* pieces about the "King
of Kong" documentary, as well as arcades in general. He's a very
entertaining public speaker and you'll find video of lots of his
presentations at various conventions if you Google enough. 

He also made the definitive documentary on BBS's, which is available from
Internet Archive as a free download (it's long, a half-dozen episodes of
various lengths). It's a *really great* doc, as is all the BBS history he's
written about on his site. In fact, textfiles.com is an archive/repository
for BBS textfiles! Some incredible stuff buried in there. 

In short, I love me some Jason Scott!

> 
> Definitive, indeed.  The idea of server-central computing is seductive
> to me, but I like the idea of having a shell account somewhere, or a
> thinclient on my desk, or whatever.  But given the realities of this
> world I decided rather to build a fatty FreeNAS system at home and keep
> it all in house.  I still do periodic backups to CD too, just in case.

I'm extremely skeptical about "cloud". There's no guarantee that that any
cloud provider won't just shut down at a moment's notice. The only data I
cloud is stuff I don't care about. The stuff I do care about gets backed up
to an external hard drive (two for stuff I *really* care about) and disc.
There's clearly money in it for the Powers That Be, however, so it's
inevitable that all computing will go the cloud route, and probably in a
much shorter timeframe than I'd like. 

-- 
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

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#1196 — Re: dropbox onedrive google icloud amazon

From"jonh" <jon@nada-sub.co.uk>
Date2014-03-03 10:23 -0600
SubjectRe: dropbox onedrive google icloud amazon
Message-ID<4860#15032@usenet.squte.com>
In reply to#1111
I'm reminded of the time when (for some reason) the art director was invited to 
define the cloud during a company meeting, and he came up with something like: "the cloud is a load of computers on the internet".

I've found Dropbox to be a convenient way to replicate low-sensitivity data across 
3 or 4 local machines, but I think Jason Scott is basically correct&emdash;if someone's 
storing your data for you with no expectation of payment, they're not doing it 
out of the kindness of their hearts. They're probably mining your data and selling 
your 'profile' to advertising companies or something of that nature. And marketing 
types do seem a little too keen to hype it these days, although I suppose that's 
just until the next hot new thing comes along&hellip;

"The cloud&emdash;because your data is worth every penny you're paying to back 
it up&hellip;"
-- 
--
"Make use of a lover or white-noise machine inside your master bedroom to assist you in drifting off to sleep."
View this thread at http://squte.com/node/4860#comment-15032

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#1199 — Re: dropbox onedrive google icloud amazon

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-03-03 16:50 +0000
SubjectRe: dropbox onedrive google icloud amazon
Message-ID<slrnlh9clv.8tb.g.kreme@oswin.local>
In reply to#1196
In message <4860#15032@usenet.squte.com> 
  jonh <jon@nada-sub.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm reminded of the time when (for some reason) the art director was invited to 
> define the cloud during a company meeting, and he came up with something like: "the cloud is a load of computers on the internet".

> I've found Dropbox to be a convenient way to replicate low-sensitivity data across 
> 3 or 4 local machines, but I think Jason Scott is basically correct&emdash;if someone's 
> storing your data for you with no expectation of payment, they're not doing it 
> out of the kindness of their hearts. They're probably mining your data and selling 
> your 'profile' to advertising companies or something of that nature. And marketing 
> types do seem a little too keen to hype it these days, although I suppose that's 
> just until the next hot new thing comes along&hellip;

Dropbox's business model is quite simple: Provide a very useful service
for free to many users to sell a related service with more storage to
some subset of those users.

So no, The have no reason to be mining your data. That said, no, I don't
store sensitive documents there. Well, I Do, but I store them in an
encrypted dmg.

-- 
'Nothing works against magic. Except stronger magic. And then the only
thing that beats stronger magic is even stronger magic. And the next
thing you know...' 'Phooey?' --Sourcery

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#1210 — Re: dropbox onedrive google icloud amazon

FromStephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com>
Date2014-03-03 17:33 +0000
SubjectRe: dropbox onedrive google icloud amazon
Message-ID<2145768286415560554.864507usenet-stephenthomascole.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#1196
"jonh" <jon@nada-sub.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm reminded of the time when (for some reason) the art director was
> invited to define the cloud during a company meeting, and he came up with
> something like: "the cloud is a load of computers on the internet".
> 
> I've found Dropbox to be a convenient way to replicate low-sensitivity
> data across 3 or 4 local machines, but I think Jason Scott is basically
> correct&emdash;if someone's storing your data for you with no expectation
> of payment, they're not doing it out of the kindness of their hearts.
> They're probably mining your data and selling your 'profile' to
> advertising companies or something of that nature. And marketing types do
> seem a little too keen to hype it these days, although I suppose that's
> just until the next hot new thing comes along&hellip;

Here's a trueism:

If you pay for it, you're a customer. If it's free, you're the product. 


-- 
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

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