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  LPR firms argue First Amendment right to collect license plate data cykros@devio.us - 2014-02-14 19:43 +0000
    Re: LPR firms argue First Amendment right to collect license plate data Atom Cogswell <m8r-uu8mmb@mailinator.com> - 2014-02-15 09:44 -0700
      Re: LPR firms argue First Amendment right to collect license plate data cykros@devio.us - 2014-02-16 03:16 +0000
        Re: LPR firms argue First Amendment right to collect license plate data RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-16 08:37 +0000
          Re: LPR firms argue First Amendment right to collect license plate data 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-16 09:37 -0500

#426 — LPR firms argue First Amendment right to collect license plate data

cykros writes: Utah law currently provides regulations on the use
of License Plate Readers (LPR's), which are generally used by law
enforcement to quickly scan license plates to check against a 
database of vehicles that are stolen or otherwise qualify for a
"hot list".  Private LPR firms Digital Recognition Network and
Vigilant Solutioons are suing Utah's governor and attorney general
on the grounds that they claim to have a First Amendment right
to collect data on license plates, as they are displayed in public
view on roads.  Privacy advocates are dismayed by this suit, due
to the implications of this data being processed into a useful 
and organized database.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/private-firms-argue-first-amendment-right-to-collect-license-plate-data/

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#436

On 2/14/2014 12:43 PM, cykros@devio.us wrote:
> cykros writes: Utah law currently provides regulations on the use
> of License Plate Readers (LPR's), which are generally used by law
> enforcement to quickly scan license plates to check against a 
> database of vehicles that are stolen or otherwise qualify for a
> "hot list".  Private LPR firms Digital Recognition Network and
> Vigilant Solutioons are suing Utah's governor and attorney general
> on the grounds that they claim to have a First Amendment right
> to collect data on license plates, as they are displayed in public
> view on roads.  Privacy advocates are dismayed by this suit, due
> to the implications of this data being processed into a useful 
> and organized database.
> 
> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/private-firms-argue-first-amendment-right-to-collect-license-plate-data/
> 
In other news, citizens have the right to photograph the faces of
executives who work at License Plate Reader manufacturers, publish their
biographies on the internet, track the location of these individuals,
and publish their whereabouts, and that of their family members, 24/7/365.

If the surveillance state is good for the goose, it's good for the
gander, no?

(sorry for replying to your email OP, not used to using Thunderbird as a
newsgroup reader)

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#453

Atom Cogswell <m8r-uu8mmb@mailinator.com> wrote:
> On 2/14/2014 12:43 PM, cykros@devio.us wrote:
>> cykros writes: Utah law currently provides regulations on the use
>> of License Plate Readers (LPR's), which are generally used by law
>> enforcement to quickly scan license plates to check against a 
>> database of vehicles that are stolen or otherwise qualify for a
>> "hot list".  Private LPR firms Digital Recognition Network and
>> Vigilant Solutioons are suing Utah's governor and attorney general
>> on the grounds that they claim to have a First Amendment right
>> to collect data on license plates, as they are displayed in public
>> view on roads.  Privacy advocates are dismayed by this suit, due
>> to the implications of this data being processed into a useful 
>> and organized database.
>> 
>> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/private-firms-argue-first-amendment-right-to-collect-license-plate-data/
>> 
> In other news, citizens have the right to photograph the faces of
> executives who work at License Plate Reader manufacturers, publish their
> biographies on the internet, track the location of these individuals,
> and publish their whereabouts, and that of their family members, 24/7/365.
> 
> If the surveillance state is good for the goose, it's good for the
> gander, no?
> 
> (sorry for replying to your email OP, not used to using Thunderbird as a
> newsgroup reader)

All good; my usenet email, while real, is not one I ever check.

And I would argue that in either case, surely stalking laws are
being breached, no?  Perhaps we can get these corporations added
to the public sex offender registry.  Hrm...

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#454

On 2014-02-16, cykros@devio.us <cykros@devio.us> wrote:
> Atom Cogswell <m8r-uu8mmb@mailinator.com> wrote:

>> In other news, citizens have the right to photograph the faces of
>> executives who work at License Plate Reader manufacturers, publish
>> their biographies on the internet, track the location of these
>> individuals, and publish their whereabouts, and that of their family
>> members, 24/7/365.
>> 
>> If the surveillance state is good for the goose, it's good for the
>> gander, no?

> All good; my usenet email, while real, is not one I ever check.
>
> And I would argue that in either case, surely stalking laws are being
> breached, no?  Perhaps we can get these corporations added to the
> public sex offender registry.  Hrm...

I'm with Atom Cogswell on this one.  Sooner or later license plates will
be the equivalent of RFID chips or something, and positions of vehicles
will be updated in realtime on master servers.  This is just a step in
that direction.  I can imagine if we ever make it into the land of
driverless cars (à la Google), the monitoring chip will be the first
piece to be attached to the chassé in the production line.

It will make crime TV shows more boring anyway.  "Where did they go?" "I
dunno, let's just pull up car.google.com and take a look.  Oh, there
they are.  Let's get 'em."

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#461

On 2/16/2014 3:37 AM, RS Wood wrote:
> It will make crime TV shows more boring anyway.  "Where did they go?" "I
> dunno, let's just pull up car.google.com and take a look.  Oh, there
> they are.  Let's get 'em."
>
Oh, there they are. Command their car to lock them in and drive to the 
nearest police station.
FTFY :)

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