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  olduse.net RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-07 20:23 +0000
    Re: olduse.net john <nospam@no.net> - 2014-03-07 12:35 -0900
      Re: olduse.net Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-08 07:23 +0000
        Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-08 14:27 +0000
          Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-08 15:13 +0000
            Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-08 15:46 +0000
              Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-08 17:35 +0000
                Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-08 19:07 +0000
                  Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-09 08:15 +0000
                    Re: olduse.net Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-03-09 09:43 +0000
                      Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-09 10:51 +0000
                    Re: olduse.net Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2014-03-09 11:04 -0400
                      Re: olduse.net Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-09 17:27 +0200
                      Re: olduse.net RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-09 17:54 +0000
                        Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-09 18:12 +0000
                        Re: olduse.net Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> - 2014-03-17 13:02 -0500
                          Re: olduse.net Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-17 19:48 +0000
                            Re: olduse.net Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> - 2014-03-17 15:32 -0500
                              Re: olduse.net Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-17 22:20 +0000
                                Re: olduse.net Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> - 2014-03-19 08:44 -0500
                      Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-09 17:55 +0000
                        Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-09 18:14 +0000
                          Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-10 08:59 +0000
                            Re: olduse.net Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-10 10:18 +0000
                              Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-10 10:39 +0000
                                Re: olduse.net Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-10 10:58 +0000
                                  Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-10 11:38 +0000
                                    Re: olduse.net Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-10 11:48 +0000
                                      Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-10 12:05 +0000
                                      Re: olduse.net RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-10 12:09 +0000
                                        Re: olduse.net Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-10 12:44 +0000
                                          Re: olduse.net RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-10 13:08 +0000
                                            Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-10 13:16 +0000
                                            Re: olduse.net Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-10 14:27 +0000
                                          Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-10 13:13 +0000
                                        Re: olduse.net Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-10 22:28 +0000
                              Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-10 16:51 +0000
                                Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-10 16:55 +0000
                            Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-10 21:25 +0000
                              Re: olduse.net Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-10 22:31 +0000
                      Re: olduse.net Adrian C <email@here.invalid> - 2014-03-09 20:52 +0000
                        Re: olduse.net cykros@devio.us - 2014-03-11 04:42 +0000
                      Re: olduse.net Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-10 00:31 +0000
                        Re: olduse.net Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-03-11 11:21 +0000
                          Re: olduse.net Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-11 14:08 +0000
                            Re: olduse.net Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-03-11 17:39 +0000
                              Re: olduse.net Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2014-03-11 15:02 -0400
                                Re: olduse.net Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-11 19:32 +0000
                                  Re: olduse.net Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2014-03-11 15:56 -0400
                                    Re: olduse.net Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-11 23:31 +0000
                                    Re: olduse.net Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-12 00:34 +0000
                                      Re: olduse.net Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-12 01:34 +0000
                                        Re: olduse.net Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-12 02:36 +0000
                                          Re: olduse.net Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-12 09:37 +0000
                                            Re: olduse.net Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-12 17:08 +0000
                                              Re: olduse.net Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-12 17:43 +0000
                                                Re: olduse.net Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-13 00:38 +0000
      Re: olduse.net Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-03-08 10:11 +0000
    Re: olduse.net "wjwlsn" <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-07 18:58 -0600
    Re: olduse.net "wjwlsn" <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-07 22:25 -0600

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#1348 — olduse.net

Maybe you all are already aware of this.  In case you aren't:

olduse.net is a real-time historical exhibit: a Usenet server that posts
whatever was posted thirty years ago, so you can watch things as they
unfolded in the 80s.  You can get to it at the web at http://olduse.net
but it's much more interesting to use a Usenet client to get to
nntp.olduse.net and enjoy it that way.

I'd say it hasn't changed much over three decades, trolls, complainers,
meta-discussion, and all.  Perhaps the level of discourse was a smidgen
higher, but there was ASCII porn, too.  Plus ça change ...

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#1352

RS Wood wrote:

> Maybe you all are already aware of this.  In case you aren't:
> 
> olduse.net is a real-time historical exhibit: a Usenet server that posts
> whatever was posted thirty years ago, so you can watch things as they

That is pretty cool. Much respect the old-timers!

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#1364

In message <lfde28$vlh$1@speranza.aioe.org> 
  john <nospam@no.net> wrote:
> RS Wood wrote:

>> Maybe you all are already aware of this.  In case you aren't:
>> 
>> olduse.net is a real-time historical exhibit: a Usenet server that posts
>> whatever was posted thirty years ago, so you can watch things as they

> That is pretty cool. Much respect the old-timers!

Hmm, none of the groups I read existed in 1984.

-- 
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too dark to read.

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#1372

On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 07:23:05 +0000, Lewis wrote:

> In message <lfde28$vlh$1@speranza.aioe.org>
>   john <nospam@no.net> wrote:
>> RS Wood wrote:
> 
>>> Maybe you all are already aware of this.  In case you aren't:
>>> 
>>> olduse.net is a real-time historical exhibit: a Usenet server that
>>> posts whatever was posted thirty years ago, so you can watch things as
>>> they
> 
>> That is pretty cool. Much respect the old-timers!
> 
> Hmm, none of the groups I read existed in 1984.

Mine did, by definition. I'm waiting for one of my posts to show up. My 
first post was 1983 AFAIR.



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#1373

Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 07:23:05 +0000, Lewis wrote:
> 
>> In message <lfde28$vlh$1@speranza.aioe.org>
>>   john <nospam@no.net> wrote:
>>> RS Wood wrote:
>> 
>>>> Maybe you all are already aware of this.  In case you aren't:
>>>> 
>>>> olduse.net is a real-time historical exhibit: a Usenet server that
>>>> posts whatever was posted thirty years ago, so you can watch things as
>>>> they
>> 
>>> That is pretty cool. Much respect the old-timers!
>> 
>> Hmm, none of the groups I read existed in 1984.
> 
> Mine did, by definition. I'm waiting for one of my posts to show up. My 
> first post was 1983 AFAIR.
> 
> 

That's pretty neat! I'm guessing from your .sig you're UK based? How did
you access Usenet in the UK in 1983? Academic connection?

-- 
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#1374

On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 15:13:24 +0000, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:

> Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 07:23:05 +0000, Lewis wrote:
>> 
>>> In message <lfde28$vlh$1@speranza.aioe.org>
>>>   john <nospam@no.net> wrote:
>>>> RS Wood wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Maybe you all are already aware of this.  In case you aren't:
>>>>> 
>>>>> olduse.net is a real-time historical exhibit: a Usenet server that
>>>>> posts whatever was posted thirty years ago, so you can watch things
>>>>> as they
>>> 
>>>> That is pretty cool. Much respect the old-timers!
>>> 
>>> Hmm, none of the groups I read existed in 1984.
>> 
>> Mine did, by definition. I'm waiting for one of my posts to show up. My
>> first post was 1983 AFAIR.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> That's pretty neat! I'm guessing from your .sig you're UK based? How did
> you access Usenet in the UK in 1983? Academic connection?

Yup, we had an early UUCP connection via modem to start with. Then we 
provided a UK academic service. University of Kent.

I still work there, teaching CS.



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#1377

Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 15:13:24 +0000, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
> 
>> Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 07:23:05 +0000, Lewis wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In message <lfde28$vlh$1@speranza.aioe.org>
>>>>   john <nospam@no.net> wrote:
>>>>> RS Wood wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe you all are already aware of this.  In case you aren't:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> olduse.net is a real-time historical exhibit: a Usenet server that
>>>>>> posts whatever was posted thirty years ago, so you can watch things
>>>>>> as they
>>>> 
>>>>> That is pretty cool. Much respect the old-timers!
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm, none of the groups I read existed in 1984.
>>> 
>>> Mine did, by definition. I'm waiting for one of my posts to show up. My
>>> first post was 1983 AFAIR.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> That's pretty neat! I'm guessing from your .sig you're UK based? How did
>> you access Usenet in the UK in 1983? Academic connection?
> 
> Yup, we had an early UUCP connection via modem to start with. Then we 
> provided a UK academic service. University of Kent.
> 
> I still work there, teaching CS.
> 
> 

Which campus, Bob? I'm a stone's throw from the Medway campus, in
Rochester. 

Do you have any knowledge of how the uk.* hierarchy started out? I'm sure
I've read somewhere that its genesis was something to do with UoK. If so,
what were the motivations/philosophy behind setting up a national
hierarchy? How was it administered in the early years, before the current
Committee led set-up took over in the mid-90s?

Cheers!

-- 
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

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#1378

On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 17:35:19 +0000, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:

> Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 15:13:24 +0000, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
>> 
>>> Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 07:23:05 +0000, Lewis wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> In message <lfde28$vlh$1@speranza.aioe.org>
>>>>>   john <nospam@no.net> wrote:
>>>>>> RS Wood wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maybe you all are already aware of this.  In case you aren't:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> olduse.net is a real-time historical exhibit: a Usenet server that
>>>>>>> posts whatever was posted thirty years ago, so you can watch
>>>>>>> things as they
>>>>> 
>>>>>> That is pretty cool. Much respect the old-timers!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hmm, none of the groups I read existed in 1984.
>>>> 
>>>> Mine did, by definition. I'm waiting for one of my posts to show up.
>>>> My first post was 1983 AFAIR.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> That's pretty neat! I'm guessing from your .sig you're UK based? How
>>> did you access Usenet in the UK in 1983? Academic connection?
>> 
>> Yup, we had an early UUCP connection via modem to start with. Then we
>> provided a UK academic service. University of Kent.
>> 
>> I still work there, teaching CS.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Which campus, Bob? I'm a stone's throw from the Medway campus, in
> Rochester.

When we did all this, Canterbury. Medway campus was only recent. I work 
at Canterbury but teach at Medway sometimes. I'm up there Monday week 
(17th) to run an intensive UNIX course for 1st year students. Strictly 
command line only! (I've used UNIX since 1975)

> Do you have any knowledge of how the uk.* hierarchy started out? I'm
> sure I've read somewhere that its genesis was something to do with UoK.
> If so,
> what were the motivations/philosophy behind setting up a national
> hierarchy? How was it administered in the early years, before the
> current Committee led set-up took over in the mid-90s?

We probably just thought it was a good idea at the time, but I know no 
details. I know someone who might know though.



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#1382

Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 17:35:19 +0000, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
> 
>> Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 15:13:24 +0000, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 07:23:05 +0000, Lewis wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In message <lfde28$vlh$1@speranza.aioe.org>
>>>>>>   john <nospam@no.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> RS Wood wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maybe you all are already aware of this.  In case you aren't:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> olduse.net is a real-time historical exhibit: a Usenet server that
>>>>>>>> posts whatever was posted thirty years ago, so you can watch
>>>>>>>> things as they
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That is pretty cool. Much respect the old-timers!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hmm, none of the groups I read existed in 1984.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mine did, by definition. I'm waiting for one of my posts to show up.
>>>>> My first post was 1983 AFAIR.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> That's pretty neat! I'm guessing from your .sig you're UK based? How
>>>> did you access Usenet in the UK in 1983? Academic connection?
>>> 
>>> Yup, we had an early UUCP connection via modem to start with. Then we
>>> provided a UK academic service. University of Kent.
>>> 
>>> I still work there, teaching CS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> Which campus, Bob? I'm a stone's throw from the Medway campus, in
>> Rochester.
> 
> When we did all this, Canterbury. Medway campus was only recent. I work 
> at Canterbury but teach at Medway sometimes. I'm up there Monday week 
> (17th) to run an intensive UNIX course for 1st year students. Strictly 
> command line only! (I've used UNIX since 1975)
> 

My field is the creative industry and my degree is in photography, but over
the last 10 years or so I've become increasingly a "computer nerd" and
would love to drop everything and spend 3 years doing a CS degree, not
necessarily to pursue a career but rather to just geek out. Any chance I
can gate crash your session on the 17th? ;-) heh. Probably best not to, I
don't know shite from dirty pudding when it comes to Unix, only significant
CLI work I ever did was on my Amiga 1200, and I never got on with it. 

>> Do you have any knowledge of how the uk.* hierarchy started out? I'm
>> sure I've read somewhere that its genesis was something to do with UoK.
>> If so,
>> what were the motivations/philosophy behind setting up a national
>> hierarchy? How was it administered in the early years, before the
>> current Committee led set-up took over in the mid-90s?
> 
> We probably just thought it was a good idea at the time, but I know no 
> details. I know someone who might know though.
> 

Cool, if you wouldn't mind passing my details to them (email in reply-to is
valid) I'd love to chat with them. Over the last year or so I've been more
and more interested in Usenet in general and uk.* in particular, involving
myself in a few RFDs, having some good old-fashioned Usenet "debates" and
pissing off a galaxy of people in the process (mostly by accident, it must
be said...). I opened a couple of social media accounts for the hierarchy
(yet to launch) and am pulling together content for them. I'm struggling to
piece together the early history of uk.*, there's almost no information
recorded on the web about it!

Cheers Bob!

-- 
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

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#1383

On 2014-03-09 08:15, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
> Over the last year or so I've been more and more interested in Usenet
> in general and uk.* in particular, involving myself in a few RFDs,
> having some good old-fashioned Usenet "debates" and pissing off a
> galaxy of people in the process (mostly by accident, it must be
> said...).

You pissed people off because you behaved like a sociopathic narcissist
whose concept of "debate" reached no further than announcing yourself as
a messiah and launching ad hominems against everyone who did not agree
with everything you said.

> I opened a couple of social media accounts for the hierarchy (yet to
> launch) and am pulling together content for them.

No, you did and are doing those things for *you*. You have no standing
whatsoever within Usenet: all of your proposals have been rejected by
both committee and netizens, and you have made yourself persona non
grata in almost every newsgroup in which you have posted.

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#1384

Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> wrote:
> On 2014-03-09 08:15, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
>> Over the last year or so I've been more and more interested in Usenet
>> in general and uk.* in particular, involving myself in a few RFDs,
>> having some good old-fashioned Usenet "debates" and pissing off a
>> galaxy of people in the process (mostly by accident, it must be
>> said...).
> 
> You pissed people off because you behaved like a sociopathic narcissist
> whose concept of "debate" reached no further than announcing yourself as
> a messiah and launching ad hominems against everyone who did not agree
> with everything you said.
> 
>> I opened a couple of social media accounts for the hierarchy (yet to
>> launch) and am pulling together content for them.
> 
> No, you did and are doing those things for *you*. You have no standing
> whatsoever within Usenet: all of your proposals have been rejected by
> both committee and netizens, and you have made yourself persona non
> grata in almost every newsgroup in which you have posted.

Ah, Hils. I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt in this group
and not killfile you on sight, but it was merely hopeless optimism on my
part to think that you wouldn't bring your bizarre obsession with me here.
I have no intention of allowing you to drag me into another pointless and
tedious flamewar, befouling comp.misc in the way you and the usual suspects
have done in parts of uk.*, so kindly consider yourself shitcanned, again. 

-- 
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#1385

Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> writes:

> My field is the creative industry and my degree is in photography, but over
> the last 10 years or so I've become increasingly a "computer nerd" and
> would love to drop everything and spend 3 years doing a CS degree, not
> necessarily to pursue a career but rather to just geek out. Any chance I
> can gate crash your session on the 17th? ;-) heh. Probably best not to, I
> don't know shite from dirty pudding when it comes to Unix, only significant
> CLI work I ever did was on my Amiga 1200, and I never got on with it. 

It has been a long time since the CLI was a necessary part of using
unix.

If you have a Kindle, you are using a flavor of unix.
Good luck even finding the CLI there.

If you do want to learn about computers,  doing a Linux install
is probably the best way to go.  And, it's completely free.
Get yourself a live CD or bootable USB key and you don't even have to
change anything on your hard disk.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#1386

Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>:

> It has been a long time since the CLI was a necessary part of using
> unix.

CLI for using computers is like literacy for being a member of the
society: no longer needed.

In both cases you are only required to watch moving pictures and point
at cute buttons.


Marko

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#1387

On 2014-03-09, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
> It has been a long time since the CLI was a necessary part of using
> unix.  If you have a Kindle, you are using a flavor of unix.  Good
> luck even finding the CLI there.  If you do want to learn about
> computers,  doing a Linux install is probably the best way to go.
> And, it's completely free.  Get yourself a live CD or bootable USB key
> and you don't even have to change anything on your hard disk.

I agree you can go a long way without touching the CLI these days.  But
I'd posit that it's once you dive into the internals via CLI that you
start to get a sense of Unix's beauty/charm/aesthetic/magic.

I'm also in agreement with those who say that Linux is for people who
hate Microsoft; BSD is for people who love Unix.  It's been my
experience, at least.

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#1389

On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 17:54:29 +0000, RS Wood wrote:

> On 2014-03-09, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>> It has been a long time since the CLI was a necessary part of using
>> unix.  If you have a Kindle, you are using a flavor of unix.  Good luck
>> even finding the CLI there.  If you do want to learn about computers, 
>> doing a Linux install is probably the best way to go. And, it's
>> completely free.  Get yourself a live CD or bootable USB key and you
>> don't even have to change anything on your hard disk.
> 
> I agree you can go a long way without touching the CLI these days.  But
> I'd posit that it's once you dive into the internals via CLI that you
> start to get a sense of Unix's beauty/charm/aesthetic/magic.
> 
> I'm also in agreement with those who say that Linux is for people who
> hate Microsoft; BSD is for people who love Unix.  It's been my
> experience, at least.

I'd go along with that!

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#1734

On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 17:54:29 +0000 (UTC), RS Wood belched forth:
> I'm also in agreement with those who say that Linux is for people who
> hate Microsoft; BSD is for people who love Unix.  It's been my
> experience, at least.

... and those hobbyists with a tendency towards masochism love
Oracle/Solaris.

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#1738

On 2014-03-17, Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 17:54:29 +0000 (UTC), RS Wood belched forth:
>> I'm also in agreement with those who say that Linux is for people who
>> hate Microsoft; BSD is for people who love Unix.  It's been my
>> experience, at least.
>
> ... and those hobbyists with a tendency towards masochism love
> Oracle/Solaris.

Oi! I ran Solaris on SPARC for many years, until the hardware started falling
too far behind the performance curve and the power costs started getting
excessive.

And I'm thinking about going back to one of the OpenSolaris spinoffs on
Intel hardware.


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#1740

On 17 Mar 2014 19:48:55 GMT, Huge belched forth:

> On 2014-03-17, Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> wrote:

>> ... and those hobbyists with a tendency towards masochism love
>> Oracle/Solaris.
> 
> Oi! I ran Solaris on SPARC for many years, until the hardware started falling
> too far behind the performance curve and the power costs started getting
> excessive.
> 
> And I'm thinking about going back to one of the OpenSolaris spinoffs on
> Intel hardware.

LOL, it was a self-depreciating joke, as I too run various flavours of
Solaris (7,8, and 10) on several old SPARC machines on my home network (a
Sparc IPX, SS10, SS20, an Ultra 5 w/SunPCI-II card, and a Tadpole/RDI
Voyager-II.

I'm planning to have a look at OpenIndiana when I have a bit of free time
(ie once the novelty of my Raspberry Pi wears off).



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#1747

On 2014-03-17, Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> wrote:
> On 17 Mar 2014 19:48:55 GMT, Huge belched forth:
>
>> On 2014-03-17, Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> ... and those hobbyists with a tendency towards masochism love
>>> Oracle/Solaris.
>> 
>> Oi! I ran Solaris on SPARC for many years, until the hardware started falling
>> too far behind the performance curve and the power costs started getting
>> excessive.
>> 
>> And I'm thinking about going back to one of the OpenSolaris spinoffs on
>> Intel hardware.
>
> LOL, it was a self-depreciating joke, 

Phew. (Although I think you mean "deprecating"!)

> as I too run various flavours of
> Solaris (7,8, and 10) on several old SPARC machines on my home network (a
> Sparc IPX, SS10, SS20, an Ultra 5 w/SunPCI-II card, and a Tadpole/RDI
> Voyager-II.

Crumbs, that's a fair selection. I've owned all of those except the Tadpole. My
last SPARC machine before I defected to Intel was a Sunblade 2000.


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A non-empty Hausdorff topological space is a continuous image of the unit
interval if and only if it is a compact, connected, locally connected
second-countable space.

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#1794

On 17 Mar 2014 22:20:51 GMT, Huge belched forth:

> On 2014-03-17, Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> wrote:

>> LOL, it was a self-depreciating joke, 
> 
> Phew. (Although I think you mean "deprecating"!)

That's exactly what I meant.  Fat fingers, some days...
 
>> as I too run various flavours of
>> Solaris (7,8, and 10) on several old SPARC machines on my home network (a
>> Sparc IPX, SS10, SS20, an Ultra 5 w/SunPCI-II card, and a Tadpole/RDI
>> Voyager-II.
> 
> Crumbs, that's a fair selection. I've owned all of those except the Tadpole. My
> last SPARC machine before I defected to Intel was a Sunblade 2000.

I had a few others, too (a couple of Netras, a Blade 100, a StorEdge array,
and an IPC) that were destroyed in a basement flood/plumbing accident.

Thankfully, most of the machines were either donations or had for the price
of scrap, so I wasn't out much money.  The only ones I actually paid for
were the Tadpole and my Ultra 5.

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