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  Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-03-28 22:03 -0400
    Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2019-03-29 06:36 +0000
    Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2019-04-04 16:07 +0000
      Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-04-04 17:16 +0000
        Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-04-04 21:15 +0000
          Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-04-04 19:03 -0400
            Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-04-05 07:46 +0000
              Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-04-05 07:56 +0000
                Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-04-05 16:35 +0000
                  Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-04-06 02:49 -0300
                    Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-04-06 09:07 +0000
                      Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-04-06 07:48 -0400
                        Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-04-06 11:56 +0000
                          Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-04-06 09:44 -0400
                            Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-04-06 13:53 +0000
                    Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-04-06 13:35 +0000
            Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-04-05 13:35 +0000
              Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-04-05 13:38 +0000
                Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-04-05 16:36 +0000
      Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2019-04-05 12:25 +0300
      Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Steve555 <Steve555@reallybogus.nodomain.nowhere.invalid> - 2019-06-17 21:39 +0000
        Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-06-18 00:22 +0000
        Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-06-19 06:46 +0000

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#18235

On 2019-04-04, Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> wrote:
>>>>>> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> writes:
>>>>>> "TH" == Thom Holwerda writes:
>
> > From the «all downhill from there» department:
> > Link: https://www.osnews.com/story/129701/linux-archaeology-kde-0-1/
>
>  RW> A user by the name of grem75 has uploaded two screenshots of KDE
>  RW> 0.1 to imgur, and they offer a very intriguing look at just how far
>  RW> we’ve come.  I’ve only found this RPM, no source unfortunately.
>
> 	I've toyed with both KDE and GNOME c. 2000, but was unable to
> 	quite figure out back then what I may need either for.  Neither
> 	do I have any better understanding of what a "desktop environment"
> 	is supposed to mean and why I may need one nowadays.
>
> 	Granted, I apparently have got some special talent at crashing
> 	X, so I tend to keep as much of valuable stuff as possible in
> 	a Screen session (which I can immediately reattach to after
> 	restarting X.)  When graphics is essential, I use a variety of
> 	software, which I doubt any specific DE would provide in its
> 	entirety; such as:
>
> 	* XTerm -- for attaching to a Screen session; reasonably
> 	  lightweight, de facto standard in its field; immensely
> 	  configurable;
>
> 	* Sxiv -- lightweight (libx11-based UI, Imlib2) image viewer;
>
> 	* Zathura -- PDF and DjVu viewer; nice less(1)-like navigation;
>
> 	* Kicad -- AFAICT, has much better UI than gEDA (although I'm
> 	  not shy of using Gerbv from the latter); rather heavy, though;
>
> 	* Xfig -- though I'm somewhat of an XML fan, this one still beats
> 	  Inkscape in the easy-to-use and runs-really-fast departments;
>
> 	* slock(1) -- lightweight.
>
> 	I've used several X window managers over the years (such as
> 	Window Maker and FVWM), but my current preferences are:
>
> 	* JWM -- can be made really lightweight, such as by /not/
> 	  compiling in SVG support;
>
> 	* Openbox -- allows for more or less pointer-less operation;
>
> 	* VTWM -- having perhaps the least dependencies among the
> 	  "traditional" WMs in Debian; (Debian JWM package /does/ link
> 	  against librsvg/libcairo.)
>
> [...]
>
That's a nice list.  It's good to see someone else likes XFig!
I didn't know about Sxiv - I tried it out, it's pretty good :-)
I also like wmiv, fim and feh image viewers.

Another nice program is fimgs, from the same place as fim.
It's a small pdf / postscript viewer.  Like xpdf, but without X;
xpdf itself is pretty good too.

Another good little program that doesn't get mentioned often is vifm, which
is a terminal file manager.  There used to be programs like this on O2/2.
I guess mc does similar stuff.


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Steve555 <Steve555@reallybogus.nodomain.nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
> That's a nice list.  It's good to see someone else likes XFig!
> I didn't know about Sxiv - I tried it out, it's pretty good :-)
> I also like wmiv, fim and feh image viewers.

I use xzgv, or zgv for fullscreen/slideshow (though svgalib may be
a bit old-hat for some). Still stuck to IrfanView via Wine for image
editing though. Never realy worked out GIMP, and mtPaint is a bit
limited for photos. I'm another fan of XFig when dealing with
vectors.

> Another nice program is fimgs, from the same place as fim.
> It's a small pdf / postscript viewer.  Like xpdf, but without X;
> xpdf itself is pretty good too.

gv makes selecting a small assortment of pages to print much easier
than xpdf. I switch between the two.

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#18246

In comp.misc, Steve555  <Steve555@reallybogus.nodomain.nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> On 2019-04-04, Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> wrote:
>> 	* Sxiv -- lightweight (libx11-based UI, Imlib2) image viewer;
...
>> 	* Xfig -- though I'm somewhat of an XML fan, this one still beats
>> 	  Inkscape in the easy-to-use and runs-really-fast departments;
> That's a nice list.  It's good to see someone else likes XFig!

I use xfig, too. I want to like Inkscape, but it always frustrates me.
(Xfig does, too, but not as much. Mostly just the clunkiness of the
ancient widgets used.)

> I didn't know about Sxiv - I tried it out, it's pretty good :-)
> I also like wmiv, fim and feh image viewers.

I (heart-emoji) feh. I find feh does everything I want, including giving
me a UI to sort images into directories (via the -A and the numbered
actions). 

> Another good little program that doesn't get mentioned often is vifm, which
> is a terminal file manager.  There used to be programs like this on O2/2.
> I guess mc does similar stuff.

I have never understood the appeal of file managers. I have a shell,
ls, sort, find, du, etc. That's everything.

Elijah
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knows find real well now

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