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| Started by | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| First post | 2017-03-22 10:35 +1100 |
| Last post | 2017-04-05 06:24 +0000 |
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Are geeks becoming more respected? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-03-22 10:35 +1100
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-03-22 08:25 +0200
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> - 2017-03-22 10:40 +0000
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-03-22 13:01 -0400
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2017-03-22 16:58 -0300
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> - 2017-03-22 20:10 +0000
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2017-03-22 17:30 -0400
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2017-03-23 01:54 -0300
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-03-22 19:17 -0400
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-03-23 09:55 +0000
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-03-23 12:20 +0200
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-03-23 10:23 +0000
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-03-23 14:57 +0200
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-03-23 10:23 +0000
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-03-23 14:49 +0200
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-03-23 19:03 +0000
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2017-03-24 01:01 -0300
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-03-24 06:55 +0000
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-03-24 09:46 +0200
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2017-03-24 15:53 -0300
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-03-24 18:59 +0000
Re: Are geeks becoming more respected? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-03-24 16:00 -0400
MIFI [was Re: Are geeks becoming more respected?] arnold@skeeve.com (Aharon Robbins) - 2017-03-25 18:37 +0000
mobiles Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2017-04-05 06:24 +0000
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-03-24 18:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ejl8i8Fq2o3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #13367 |
Mike Spencer wrote: > Andy Burns wrote: > >> MiFi. > > Okaay, have to look that up. A dedicated device, typically battery powered, with 3G and/or 4G radio and WiFi hotspot capability, and generally no other functionality.
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| From | Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> |
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| Date | 2017-03-24 16:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.LNX.2.02.1703241556470.32082@darkstar.example.org> |
| In reply to | #13367 |
On Fri, 24 Mar 2017, Mike Spencer wrote: > > Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> writes: > >> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>: >> >>> Mike Spencer wrote: >>> >>>> Basically, I want a cell phone for: >>>> + A wifi access point >>> >>> Going to have to be a smartphone then (or not a phone at all, but a >>> MiFi). > > Okaay, have to look that up. > >> Let me mention a practical use case for a smartphone. >> >> Yesterday I needed to go to a meeting in Vantaa, Finland (within the >> Helsinki metropolitan area). I don't know Vantaa very well... >> >> [ snip account of getting un-lost, finding right train etc.] >> >> ...I wasn't even late to the meeting. > > The chances of me being in that situation are non-zero but very small. > Vaguely similar but less pressing situations slightly more probable. > > Wifi (or mifi? -- faster net access) is the motivating element here. > > Others' comments saved for reference, TYVM. > My sister had internet access that way for a while. It had to use the cellphone network, I don't think Bell was stringing up wifi nodes everywhere. She got a little usb thing that provided the interface. I don't know what she paid, but she said it was "expensive", the monthly rate that is. SOmewhere I got the impression it wasn't all that fast, but i'm not sure whether she said something or I got it from somewhere else. I tried it once, when I got my Blackberry Playbook I had to register at Blackberry, but on dialup I couldn't get to their website. So her internet access was faster, but I never used it enough to know whether it wsa fast or not. Is it still being offered? I don't know, I haven't seen it advertised in a while, but I did back when she had it (which was up to October of 2012). Michael
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| From | arnold@skeeve.com (Aharon Robbins) |
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| Date | 2017-03-25 18:37 +0000 |
| Subject | MIFI [was Re: Are geeks becoming more respected?] |
| Message-ID | <ob6ddl$fea$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #13369 |
In article <alpine.LNX.2.02.1703241556470.32082@darkstar.example.org>, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote: >Is it still being offered? I don't know, I haven't seen it advertised in >a while, but I did back when she had it (which was up to October of 2012). Such devices tend to use the cellular network. We've been using one from datajack.com for several years for when we visit in the US to a home that has no Internet access. Google for reviews and so on. HTH, Arnold -- Aharon (Arnold) Robbins arnold AT skeeve DOT com
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| From | Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> |
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| Date | 2017-04-05 06:24 +0000 |
| Subject | mobiles |
| Message-ID | <871st71idk.fsf_-_@ribog.ahpci.iadu.net> |
| In reply to | #13363 |
>>>>> Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> writes: [...] > Let me mention a practical use case for a smartphone. > Yesterday I needed to go to a meeting in Vantaa, Finland (within the > Helsinki metropolitan area). I don't know Vantaa very well so I > checked out the metro area transportation web site (on the computer) > for best connections and reserved enough time for the trip. The web > site gave me a bus-train-bus-walk route. > While on the train, I used the PHONE's street map to check out the > final destination: Talvitie [Winter Road]. [...] First of all, I have to admit that I /do/ use non-free software. A few hours a week (on average) as part of my job (although it's more along the lines of helping others to accomplish their respective tasks), and perhaps a few hours a week more interacting with various non-free JavaScript (such as used by my bank.) However, the idea of having some non-free software running on a device I carry with me, powered on 24/7, doesn't sound appealing at all. (Not to mention that continuously tracking device's -- and thus user's -- location is an essential part of cellular network operation.) So, in the cases like the one above, I just ask my way around. (As the old saying goes, "the tongue will lead you through to Kiev." Then again, the last time I was farther than some 30 km of my home was back in 2011.) Worked surprisingly well for me so far. And even better: I was at least once asked for directions by some lost driver who /did/ have a mapping application running on his device. -- FSF associate member #7257 58F8 0F47 53F5 2EB2 F6A5 8916 3013 B6A0 230E 334A
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