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  olduse.net RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-07 20:23 +0000
    Re: olduse.net john <nospam@no.net> - 2014-03-07 12:35 -0900
      Re: olduse.net Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-08 07:23 +0000
        Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-08 14:27 +0000
          Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-08 15:13 +0000
            Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-08 15:46 +0000
              Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-08 17:35 +0000
                Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-08 19:07 +0000
                  Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-09 08:15 +0000
                    Re: olduse.net Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-03-09 09:43 +0000
                      Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-09 10:51 +0000
                    Re: olduse.net Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2014-03-09 11:04 -0400
                      Re: olduse.net Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-09 17:27 +0200
                      Re: olduse.net RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-09 17:54 +0000
                        Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-09 18:12 +0000
                        Re: olduse.net Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> - 2014-03-17 13:02 -0500
                          Re: olduse.net Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-17 19:48 +0000
                            Re: olduse.net Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> - 2014-03-17 15:32 -0500
                              Re: olduse.net Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-17 22:20 +0000
                                Re: olduse.net Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> - 2014-03-19 08:44 -0500
                      Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-09 17:55 +0000
                        Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-09 18:14 +0000
                          Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-10 08:59 +0000
                            Re: olduse.net Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-10 10:18 +0000
                              Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-10 10:39 +0000
                                Re: olduse.net Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-10 10:58 +0000
                                  Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-10 11:38 +0000
                                    Re: olduse.net Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-10 11:48 +0000
                                      Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-10 12:05 +0000
                                      Re: olduse.net RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-10 12:09 +0000
                                        Re: olduse.net Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-10 12:44 +0000
                                          Re: olduse.net RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-10 13:08 +0000
                                            Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-10 13:16 +0000
                                            Re: olduse.net Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-10 14:27 +0000
                                          Re: olduse.net Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-10 13:13 +0000
                                        Re: olduse.net Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-10 22:28 +0000
                              Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-10 16:51 +0000
                                Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-10 16:55 +0000
                            Re: olduse.net Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-03-10 21:25 +0000
                              Re: olduse.net Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-10 22:31 +0000
                      Re: olduse.net Adrian C <email@here.invalid> - 2014-03-09 20:52 +0000
                        Re: olduse.net cykros@devio.us - 2014-03-11 04:42 +0000
                      Re: olduse.net Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-10 00:31 +0000
                        Re: olduse.net Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-03-11 11:21 +0000
                          Re: olduse.net Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-11 14:08 +0000
                            Re: olduse.net Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-03-11 17:39 +0000
                              Re: olduse.net Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2014-03-11 15:02 -0400
                                Re: olduse.net Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-11 19:32 +0000
                                  Re: olduse.net Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2014-03-11 15:56 -0400
                                    Re: olduse.net Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-11 23:31 +0000
                                    Re: olduse.net Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-12 00:34 +0000
                                      Re: olduse.net Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-12 01:34 +0000
                                        Re: olduse.net Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-12 02:36 +0000
                                          Re: olduse.net Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-12 09:37 +0000
                                            Re: olduse.net Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-12 17:08 +0000
                                              Re: olduse.net Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-12 17:43 +0000
                                                Re: olduse.net Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-13 00:38 +0000
      Re: olduse.net Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-03-08 10:11 +0000
    Re: olduse.net "wjwlsn" <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-07 18:58 -0600
    Re: olduse.net "wjwlsn" <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-07 22:25 -0600

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#1388

Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
> Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> writes:
> 
>> My field is the creative industry and my degree is in photography, but over
>> the last 10 years or so I've become increasingly a "computer nerd" and
>> would love to drop everything and spend 3 years doing a CS degree, not
>> necessarily to pursue a career but rather to just geek out. Any chance I
>> can gate crash your session on the 17th? ;-) heh. Probably best not to, I
>> don't know shite from dirty pudding when it comes to Unix, only significant
>> CLI work I ever did was on my Amiga 1200, and I never got on with it. 
> 
> It has been a long time since the CLI was a necessary part of using
> unix.
> 
> If you have a Kindle, you are using a flavor of unix.
> Good luck even finding the CLI there.
> 
> If you do want to learn about computers,  doing a Linux install
> is probably the best way to go.  And, it's completely free.
> Get yourself a live CD or bootable USB key and you don't even have to
> change anything on your hard disk.

I've certainly used Linux before, I had a brief toy with Ubuntu on an old
laptop a couple of years ago. Didn't go much on it, to be honest, although
I know I only just scratched the surface of the thing. I have a long parked
project to get a Linux install working on one of my PowerMac 9600s, must
get round to that soon. No, what got me excited about Bob's post was the
thought of being a nerd for 3 years, playing with computers and not having
any other responsibilities. If I had the money, I'd permanently be enrolled
on university degree courses, one after the other. :)

-- 
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

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#1390

On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 17:55:05 +0000, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:

> Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> writes:
>> 
>>> My field is the creative industry and my degree is in photography, but
>>> over the last 10 years or so I've become increasingly a "computer
>>> nerd" and would love to drop everything and spend 3 years doing a CS
>>> degree, not necessarily to pursue a career but rather to just geek
>>> out. Any chance I can gate crash your session on the 17th? ;-) heh.
>>> Probably best not to, I don't know shite from dirty pudding when it
>>> comes to Unix, only significant CLI work I ever did was on my Amiga
>>> 1200, and I never got on with it.
>> 
>> It has been a long time since the CLI was a necessary part of using
>> unix.
>> 
>> If you have a Kindle, you are using a flavor of unix.
>> Good luck even finding the CLI there.
>> 
>> If you do want to learn about computers,  doing a Linux install is
>> probably the best way to go.  And, it's completely free.
>> Get yourself a live CD or bootable USB key and you don't even have to
>> change anything on your hard disk.
> 
> I've certainly used Linux before, I had a brief toy with Ubuntu on an
> old laptop a couple of years ago. Didn't go much on it, to be honest,
> although I know I only just scratched the surface of the thing. I have a
> long parked project to get a Linux install working on one of my PowerMac
> 9600s, must get round to that soon. No, what got me excited about Bob's
> post was the thought of being a nerd for 3 years, playing with computers
> and not having any other responsibilities. If I had the money, I'd
> permanently be enrolled on university degree courses, one after the
> other. :)

Most of ours do it for four years...they do a year working in industry, 
too (getting paid for it). We have students at IBM, HP, Microsoft, Red 
Bull, Glaxo....and in Hong Kong at HSBC. We even have about 18 at Cisco 
in San Jose this year...



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#1404

Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 17:55:05 +0000, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
>> 
>> I've certainly used Linux before, I had a brief toy with Ubuntu on an
>> old laptop a couple of years ago. Didn't go much on it, to be honest,
>> although I know I only just scratched the surface of the thing. I have a
>> long parked project to get a Linux install working on one of my PowerMac
>> 9600s, must get round to that soon. No, what got me excited about Bob's
>> post was the thought of being a nerd for 3 years, playing with computers
>> and not having any other responsibilities. If I had the money, I'd
>> permanently be enrolled on university degree courses, one after the
>> other. :)
> 
> Most of ours do it for four years.

Even better!

>..they do a year working in industry, 
> too (getting paid for it). We have students at IBM, HP, Microsoft, Red 
> Bull, Glaxo....and in Hong Kong at HSBC. We even have about 18 at Cisco 
> in San Jose this year...
> 

That does sound really great, Bob, I imagine you produce a lot of very
talented graduates. Does UoK actively find placements for the students or
is it left to them to figure out on their own?

I thoroughly enjoyed my photography degree, started a decade after I jacked
skool in when I was young and stupid, and wanted (still do) to do a
photography MA to spend a couple more years embraced in the bosom of higher
education. Like I said, given half a chance I'd be a student for the rest
of my life, great times and much more fun than the "real world".

-- 
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

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#1407

On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:

> Does UoK 

Commonly referred to as "UKC".

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#1408

Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
> 
>> Does UoK 
> 
> Commonly referred to as "UKC".

Really? Why so? Ok, just Googled and understand. I prefer "UoK"...

-- 
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

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#1410

On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Does UoK 
>> 
>> Commonly referred to as "UKC".
>
> Really? Why so? Ok, just Googled and understand. I prefer "UoK"...

What you prefer is of no consequence.

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children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty
and almost any deprivation." Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf

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#1413

Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does UoK 
>>> 
>>> Commonly referred to as "UKC".
>> 
>> Really? Why so? Ok, just Googled and understand. I prefer "UoK"...
> 
> What you prefer is of no consequence.

I wasn't suggesting that it was, merely stating my preference. 

-- 
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#1414

On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Does UoK 
>>>> 
>>>> Commonly referred to as "UKC".
>>> 
>>> Really? Why so? Ok, just Googled and understand. I prefer "UoK"...
>> 
>> What you prefer is of no consequence.
>
> I wasn't suggesting that it was, merely stating my preference. 

Are you *really* this stupid?


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interval if and only if it is a compact, connected, locally connected
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#1415

Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>>>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does UoK 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Commonly referred to as "UKC".
>>>> 
>>>> Really? Why so? Ok, just Googled and understand. I prefer "UoK"...
>>> 
>>> What you prefer is of no consequence.
>> 
>> I wasn't suggesting that it was, merely stating my preference. 
> 
> Are you *really* this stupid?
> 

Bloody Nora, mate. Give it a rest. I was saying that I prefer the sound of
"UoK" to "UKC". Nothing more, nothing less. I wasn't for one moment saying
that my preference makes a jot of difference, nor that it could possibly
influence the accepted convention to use "UKC". 

Strewth. 

-- 
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#1416

On 10 Mar 2014 11:48:10 GMT
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
> > Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
> >>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> >>>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Does UoK 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Commonly referred to as "UKC".
> >>> 
> >>> Really? Why so? Ok, just Googled and understand. I prefer "UoK"...
> >> 
> >> What you prefer is of no consequence.
> >
> > I wasn't suggesting that it was, merely stating my preference. 
> 
> Are you *really* this stupid?

"Huge," what Stephen Thomas Cole wrote was perfectly clear and
understandable.  It seems obvious you are trying hard to incite a
classic Usenet flamewar with your curt, offensive responses.
Unfortunately for you, the rest of us are too smart to take your bait.
Have a look at your own question, then.

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#1417

On 2014-03-10, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On 10 Mar 2014 11:48:10 GMT
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>> > Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> >> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>> >>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> >>>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>> Does UoK 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Commonly referred to as "UKC".
>> >>> 
>> >>> Really? Why so? Ok, just Googled and understand. I prefer "UoK"...
>> >> 
>> >> What you prefer is of no consequence.
>> >
>> > I wasn't suggesting that it was, merely stating my preference. 
>> 
>> Are you *really* this stupid?
>
> "Huge," what Stephen Thomas Cole wrote was perfectly clear and
> understandable. 

And wrong. (I should point out at this point that I am a *graduate* of
UKC.) STC may want to behave like Humpty-Dumpty, and he is most welcome
so to do, but IME if you want to talk to people about a subject, it's
generally a good idea to use the correct terminology.

> It seems obvious you are trying hard to incite a
> classic Usenet flamewar with your curt, offensive responses.

Umm, no. And if you had any experience with Stephen, you'd know that many
of the points raised about him by an earlier poster are actually correct.

Stephen is also a nym-shifter, nearly always good evidence of troll-hood.


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A non-empty Hausdorff topological space is a continuous image of the unit
interval if and only if it is a compact, connected, locally connected
second-countable space.

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#1418

On 10 Mar 2014 12:44:14 GMT
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

> Stephen is also a nym-shifter, nearly always good evidence of troll-hood.

I've had no experience with either of you on other
newsgroups, and my opinion of both of you has been mostly shaped by
your contributions to comp.misc.  This place is more fun when we're
talking about tech instead of other contributors.  That's my last word
on the subject.

"-1 off topic"

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#1421

RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On 10 Mar 2014 12:44:14 GMT
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Stephen is also a nym-shifter, nearly always good evidence of troll-hood.
> 
> I've had no experience with either of you on other
> newsgroups, and my opinion of both of you has been mostly shaped by
> your contributions to comp.misc.  This place is more fun when we're
> talking about tech instead of other contributors.  That's my last word
> on the subject.
> 
> "-1 off topic"

Your earlier suggestion that Huge is looking to incite a flamewar is
seeming quite accurate. I've no interest in getting embroiled in one here,
so I'll not feed the troll any further. 

-- 
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

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#1425

On 2014-03-10, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On 10 Mar 2014 12:44:14 GMT
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Stephen is also a nym-shifter, nearly always good evidence of troll-hood.
>
> I've had no experience with either of you on other
> newsgroups, and my opinion of both of you has been mostly shaped by
> your contributions to comp.misc.  This place is more fun when we're
> talking about tech instead of other contributors.  That's my last word
> on the subject.

Mine too (*). I shall go back to pining for my Psion 5MX, you rotter.

(*) Other than this one.


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A non-empty Hausdorff topological space is a continuous image of the unit
interval if and only if it is a compact, connected, locally connected
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#1420

Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2014-03-10, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> On 10 Mar 2014 11:48:10 GMT
>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>>>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Does UoK 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Commonly referred to as "UKC".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Really? Why so? Ok, just Googled and understand. I prefer "UoK"...
>>>>> 
>>>>> What you prefer is of no consequence.
>>>> 
>>>> I wasn't suggesting that it was, merely stating my preference. 
>>> 
>>> Are you *really* this stupid?
>> 
>> "Huge," what Stephen Thomas Cole wrote was perfectly clear and
>> understandable. 
> 
> And wrong. (I should point out at this point that I am a *graduate* of
> UKC.) STC may want to behave like Humpty-Dumpty, and he is most welcome
> so to do, but IME if you want to talk to people about a subject, it's
> generally a good idea to use the correct terminology.
> 

Not having been a student at UKC (I earned my degree at UCA), I was
unfamiliar with the preferred colloquialism of said institution. I regret
that my ignorance has upset you so. 

>> It seems obvious you are trying hard to incite a
>> classic Usenet flamewar with your curt, offensive responses.
> 
> Umm, no. And if you had any experience with Stephen, you'd know that many
> of the points raised about him by an earlier poster are actually correct.
>

No comment to add here other to say that I was unaware you were of the same
obsessed bent of mind as Hils. A shame, really, as I regarded you as not a
bad egg. 

> Stephen is also a nym-shifter, nearly always good evidence of troll-hood.
> 

What evidence? Seeing as I have not posted under any identity than my own,
there cannot be any. You're simply repeating baseless accusations from the
mentals in ukra. 

-- 
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

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#1439

On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 12:09:16 +0000, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
wrote:

>On 10 Mar 2014 11:48:10 GMT
>Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>> > Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> >> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>> >>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> >>>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>> Does UoK 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Commonly referred to as "UKC".
>> >>> 
>> >>> Really? Why so? Ok, just Googled and understand. I prefer "UoK"...
>> >> 
>> >> What you prefer is of no consequence.
>> >
>> > I wasn't suggesting that it was, merely stating my preference. 
>> 
>> Are you *really* this stupid?
>
>"Huge," what Stephen Thomas Cole wrote was perfectly clear and
>understandable.  It seems obvious you are trying hard to incite a
>classic Usenet flamewar with your curt, offensive responses.
>Unfortunately for you, the rest of us are too smart to take your bait.
>Have a look at your own question, then.

+1
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Regards, J B Good

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#1428

On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:18:52 +0000, Huge wrote:

> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
> 
>> Does UoK
> 
> Commonly referred to as "UKC".

Not any more, officially. Because it now has two marts, UKC and UKM 
(University of Kent at Medway). I'm giving a course there (Medway) next 
week!



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#1429

On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 16:51:25 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:18:52 +0000, Huge wrote:
> 
>> On 2014-03-10, Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Does UoK
>> 
>> Commonly referred to as "UKC".
> 
> Not any more, officially. Because it now has two marts, UKC and UKM
> (University of Kent at Medway). I'm giving a course there (Medway) next
> week!

(two parts, that should have read, i.e. two campuses). Us old timers 
still talk about UKC as the 'real' one, mind.

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#1435

On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 08:59:34 +0000, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:

> Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 17:55:05 +0000, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've certainly used Linux before, I had a brief toy with Ubuntu on an
>>> old laptop a couple of years ago. Didn't go much on it, to be honest,
>>> although I know I only just scratched the surface of the thing. I have
>>> a long parked project to get a Linux install working on one of my
>>> PowerMac 9600s, must get round to that soon. No, what got me excited
>>> about Bob's post was the thought of being a nerd for 3 years, playing
>>> with computers and not having any other responsibilities. If I had the
>>> money, I'd permanently be enrolled on university degree courses, one
>>> after the other. :)
>> 
>> Most of ours do it for four years.
> 
> Even better!
> 
>>..they do a year working in industry,
>> too (getting paid for it). We have students at IBM, HP, Microsoft, Red
>> Bull, Glaxo....and in Hong Kong at HSBC. We even have about 18 at Cisco
>> in San Jose this year...
>> 
> That does sound really great, Bob, I imagine you produce a lot of very
> talented graduates. Does UoK actively find placements for the students
> or is it left to them to figure out on their own?

We have a departmental placement office, staffed by two experienced 
careers/graduate recruitment people (unusual, even within UoK). They 
provide steering to apply for the right jobs, but they are all applied fo 
compettitively (competition can be worldwide sometimes). Students can 
also suggest suitable placements (one went to work for a relative in 
Delhi).

Salaries range from about £12000 for the year (East Kent) to £52000 (a 
certain bank). This is for a single placement year.

Some of the jobs are really interesting. Some of the Cisco people worked 
on OpenStack, for example. I mention that to keep this vaguely on-topic.
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#1441

In article <bo6ou7F5e16U5@mid.individual.net>, Bob Eager
<news0002@eager.cx> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 08:59:34 +0000, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
> 
> > Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 17:55:05 +0000, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I've certainly used Linux before, I had a brief toy with Ubuntu on an
> >>> old laptop a couple of years ago. Didn't go much on it, to be honest,
> >>> although I know I only just scratched the surface of the thing. I have
> >>> a long parked project to get a Linux install working on one of my
> >>> PowerMac 9600s, must get round to that soon. No, what got me excited
> >>> about Bob's post was the thought of being a nerd for 3 years, playing
> >>> with computers and not having any other responsibilities. If I had the
> >>> money, I'd permanently be enrolled on university degree courses, one
> >>> after the other. :)
> >> 
> >> Most of ours do it for four years.
> > 
> > Even better!
> > 
> >>..they do a year working in industry,
> >> too (getting paid for it). We have students at IBM, HP, Microsoft, Red
> >> Bull, Glaxo....and in Hong Kong at HSBC. We even have about 18 at Cisco
> >> in San Jose this year...
> >> 
> > That does sound really great, Bob, I imagine you produce a lot of very
> > talented graduates. Does UoK actively find placements for the students
> > or is it left to them to figure out on their own?
> 
> We have a departmental placement office, staffed by two experienced 
> careers/graduate recruitment people (unusual, even within UoK). They 
> provide steering to apply for the right jobs, but they are all applied fo 
> compettitively (competition can be worldwide sometimes). Students can 
> also suggest suitable placements (one went to work for a relative in 
> Delhi).
> 
> Salaries range from about £12000 for the year (East Kent) to £52000 (a 
> certain bank). This is for a single placement year.
> 
> Some of the jobs are really interesting. Some of the Cisco people worked 
> on OpenStack, for example. I mention that to keep this vaguely on-topic.

We had a number of Indians working at Dante. They all seemed to have
come from UoK.

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