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  Slash, Soy, Technocrat: two weeks later RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-22 20:42 +0000
    Re: Slash, Soy, Technocrat: two weeks later wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-22 16:29 +0000
    Re: Slash, Soy, Technocrat: two weeks later Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-02-22 15:51 -0800
      Re: Slash, Soy, Technocrat: two weeks later wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-23 01:24 +0000
        Re: Slash, Soy, Technocrat: two weeks later RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-23 09:14 +0000
          PipeDot Captcha win RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-23 15:26 +0000
    Re: PipeDot Captcha win wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-23 10:30 +0000

#731 — Slash, Soy, Technocrat: two weeks later

At the end of the Slashcott, and a half-assed second week, Slashdot is
still standing, Soylent is up and running, and Perens' Technocrat is on
its feet.  I find myself hoping all three stick around - more articles
for all of us, or maybe I just like the fight.  In any case, I've given
up being mad at Dice: they can do what they want with their site, and I
might even continue visiting it if they post interesting stuff.  Here's
a quick look at comments: (it's column-aligned in fixed width font).

Soylent:
Intel 15 core CPU:      15 comments
Snowden interview:      8 comments
Computer chess:         24 comments
EULA Forestation:       20 comments

Slashdot:
Microsoft price cut:    51 comments
Gmail unsubscribe tool: 41 comments
Megatons to Megawatts:  66 comments

Technocrat:
Safari broken:          1 comment
California:             6 comments
ACs and Broken Windows: 8 comments
Groklaw:                10 comments

At a glance I'd say Slashdot has been impacted by the exodus, but still
has somewhat healthy commentary going.  Soylent has got a respectable
amount of comments, but some of them are pretty weak.  Technocrat is
struggling to get anyone to read it, and too many articles are about
Perens' software, which sure seems to be alpha-quality at this point.
He's off to a losing start.

Like I said, the reader potentially wins in that there are more articles
being posted.  Soylent does seem to have quickly built up a community,
which works in its favor.  Perens seems not to have done the same.  Like
I said, I'm no longer hoping for Dice's demise - let's keep the
competition going!
 

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#734

One thing that Perens needs to make clear is what Technocrat's editorial
policy is going to be. For instance, will editors be deleting posts, and if so,
under what circumstances? The same question holds for censoring of text
within posts... especially since this has happened at least once already:

http://technocrat.net/dynamic/comment/103

I get what he's trying to do with the site (i.e., reward "good" behaviour,
penalize "bad" behaviour, etc.), but I really wonder if his policies will lead
to the "polite and insightful community" he's trying to foster, or if it will
just kill the site before it has a chance to really take off.

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#745

And then there is Pipedot:
https://pipedot.org/

open-source secure messaging systems: 0 comments
Next Falcon 9 Rocket to Attempt Water Landing: 5 comments
Toshiba Announces a 5TB Hard Drive: 20 comments
The Pipedot Week 1 status update scores best at 41 comments.
Several other stories have 5 comments, it seems to be the mode.

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#750

> And then there is Pipedot:
> https://pipedot.org/
>
> open-source secure messaging systems: 0 comments
> Next Falcon 9 Rocket to Attempt Water Landing: 5 comments
> Toshiba Announces a 5TB Hard Drive: 20 comments
> The Pipedot Week 1 status update scores best at 41 comments.
> Several other stories have 5 comments, it seems to be the mode.
>

Visually, the design is quite appealing... still that old slashcode look-and-feel, but somehow
cleaner-looking. The developer started from scratch with up-to-date technology and has
been able to accomplish a lot very quickly. When I first looked at pipedot a week ago, it was
mostly static... but it now has a functioning submission, reply, and threading system. All it
really needs now is karma and moderation.

If you haven't checked it out yet, you should... it looks promising. It will be interesting to see
if a clean and modern codebase can propel it past SoylentNews.

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#753

On 2014-02-23, wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> And then there is Pipedot:
>> https://pipedot.org/
>>
>> open-source secure messaging systems: 0 comments
>> Next Falcon 9 Rocket to Attempt Water Landing: 5 comments
>> Toshiba Announces a 5TB Hard Drive: 20 comments
>> The Pipedot Week 1 status update scores best at 41 comments.
>> Several other stories have 5 comments, it seems to be the mode.
>>
>
> Visually, the design is quite appealing... still that old slashcode
> look-and-feel, but somehow cleaner-looking. The developer started from
> scratch with up-to-date technology and has been able to accomplish a
> lot very quickly. When I first looked at pipedot a week ago, it was
> mostly static... but it now has a functioning submission, reply, and
> threading system. All it really needs now is karma and moderation.
>
> If you haven't checked it out yet, you should... it looks promising.
> It will be interesting to see if a clean and modern codebase can
> propel it past SoylentNews.
>
> -- Now frequenting comp.misc daily in a prolonged fit of netstalgia.
>

I just checked it out, in amazement that in all the furor about FuckBeta
I hadn't heard about this one.  And I'm impressed!  Visually it's nicer
than Soylent, and the idea of a code rewrite that preserves slashcode
functionality but builds it on PHP and CSS is appealing.

I'm going to subscribe to it as well, to show some support and to see if
among all these sites we can be exposed to some interesting things.
Repeating a comment I saw there, Soylent has got the Slashcode up and
running; Pipedot has the articles but no comments or moderation, and
Technocrat has the comments/moderation but not much else.

All the comments exhorting a consolidation reminds me of the "why do we
need only one Linux distro?" conversations.  I'm glad for the diversity
- we all win.  

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#787 — PipeDot Captcha win

On 2014-02-23, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> I just checked it out, in amazement that in all the furor about FuckBeta
> I hadn't heard about this one.  And I'm impressed!  Visually it's nicer
> than Soylent, and the idea of a code rewrite that preserves slashcode
> functionality but builds it on PHP and CSS is appealing.

Follow up (to my own post, boo):

Just signed up for an account at PipeDot and instead of a captcha they
give you a trig question.  Awesome!  And beautifully rendered, too -
maybe some sort of TeX running behind the scenes?  I'm not familiar with
this captcha alternative.

I also have forgotten my trig, apparently :(

sin^2 θ + cos^2 θ = ???
Is the answer "one"?  Hell, this site is tough!  (this, too, is a test
of Unicode and vim digraphs, ha ha).

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#789 — Re: PipeDot Captcha win

> On 2014-02-23, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> I just checked it out, in amazement that in all the furor about FuckBeta
>> I hadn't heard about this one.  And I'm impressed!  Visually it's nicer
>> than Soylent, and the idea of a code rewrite that preserves slashcode
>> functionality but builds it on PHP and CSS is appealing.
>
> Follow up (to my own post, boo):
>
> Just signed up for an account at PipeDot and instead of a captcha they
> give you a trig question.  Awesome!  And beautifully rendered, too -
> maybe some sort of TeX running behind the scenes?  I'm not familiar with
> this captcha alternative.
>
> I also have forgotten my trig, apparently :(
>
> sin^2 ? + cos^2 ? = ???
> Is the answer "one"?  Hell, this site is tough!  (this, too, is a test
> of Unicode and vim digraphs, ha ha).
>

Yes, the answer is 1.

I had to think about it too. :)

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