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  4 horsemen of the infocolypse trotted out in Snowden backlash backlash "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-05-02 04:43 -0500
    Re: 4 horsemen of the infocolypse trotted out in Snowden backlash   backlash RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-05 10:08 +0000

#2601 — 4 horsemen of the infocolypse trotted out in Snowden backlash backlash

GCHQ is whining to the PM that Google and Facebook are now encrypting traffic  
between their servers [1].
As a redddit [2] commenter explains, this only affects their mass  
surveillance [3], they can still get a court order for data on specific  
suspects.
The Daily Mail has a typically inflammatory headline [4] "Internet giants  
including Google and Facebook are shielding terrorists and paedophiles".
The comments on the Daily Mail site are more insightful, among the highest  
rated comments:

>"shielding terrorists and paedophiles"? Er no. These demands are not for  
>this purpose though are they? These endless demands to intrude on the  
>privacy of people are all about control and agencies hate any control over  
>their ability [to] abuse it. We already have laws allowing agencies to plant  
>bugs and spy on people that were supposedly designed to be used only with  
>terrorists, only to discover that the local councils are using them to spy  
>on people with a rogue pets, late library books or untidy gardens. This man  
>can dream on if he thinks the people will be happy with the Big Brother  
>society he wants.
>In other words they are trying to pave the way for the government to control  
>the Internet by using the same old scare tactics, peadophiles and  
>terrorists......
>The trouble is the government want blanket surveillance of the all  
>communications this and the fact that they use their powers for such trivial  
>matters as name calling & so called "hate crimes" means that their current  
>stance and statement holds no water for the majority of us. They got caught  
>out and we just don't trust them any more. If they want data, let them get a  
>court order for each person and instance and let them have to prove that it  
>is necessary to collect evidence for terrorism or serious criminal offences.
>It looks like the search engines are finally growing a pair and telling the  
>various agencies where they can stick their unreasonable intrusions into the  
>British people's privacy. It's only because of the whistle blowers mentioned  
>that the rest of us know how invasive and unjustifiable these agencies  
>abuses of power have been and how dishonest they've been regarding who they  
>say they're after and why. Bring on quantum encryption, it's time to shut  
>these agencies out for good.
I find the mainstream reaction to this interesting. It looks like people are  
finally picking up on what hactivists have been saying for years.


[1] http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/20/gmail-traffic-between-google-servers-now-encrypted-to-thwart-nsa-snooping/
[2] http://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/243l02/gchq_goes_to_the_daily_mail_to_complain_that/
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora
[4] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614137/Spy-chiefs-warn-PM-Internet-giants-including-Google-Facebook-shielding-terrorists-paedophiles.html
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regards
~tdk
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#2630 — Re: 4 horsemen of the infocolypse trotted out in Snowden backlash backlash

On Fri, 2 May 2014 04:43:18 -0500
"tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> wrote:

> GCHQ is whining to the PM that Google and Facebook are now encrypting traffic  
> between their servers [1].
> As a redddit [2] commenter explains, this only affects their mass  
> surveillance [3], they can still get a court order for data on specific  
> suspects.
> The Daily Mail has a typically inflammatory headline [4] "Internet giants  
> including Google and Facebook are shielding terrorists and paedophiles".
> The comments on the Daily Mail site are more insightful, among the highest  
> rated comments:

The 'shielding pedophiles' argument is wearing thin; it's just too bad
it's so damned effective when it comes time to be incendiary.  I'd like to shed a tear for the GCHQ, the NSA, and their brethren, but I just can't.  We live in bad times.

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