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| Started by | Dale R Worley <worley@shell01.TheWorld.com> |
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| First post | 2014-05-23 16:39 -0400 |
| Last post | 2014-05-26 17:54 +0100 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 240 — 49 participants |
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Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Dale R Worley <worley@shell01.TheWorld.com> - 2014-05-23 16:39 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2014-05-23 16:32 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-23 23:28 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-24 08:23 +0200
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-23 23:55 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-24 00:17 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2014-05-24 10:21 -0300
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-24 14:37 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 16:29 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-24 14:16 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2014-05-24 14:45 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-25 11:25 +0200
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-25 10:32 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-25 21:40 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 12:35 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-26 13:34 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 21:35 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-26 21:47 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-27 00:09 +0200
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-28 16:07 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2014-05-29 02:16 +0200
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Will Honea <whonea@whonea.net> - 2014-05-28 23:23 -0600
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-29 11:26 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 10:30 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-29 20:05 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-29 20:31 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-29 22:36 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 19:16 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:19 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-31 15:31 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-31 23:54 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 11:31 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-01 10:27 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-01 12:15 +0200
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:14 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:12 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:19 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 08:00 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2014-05-30 14:44 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-31 15:42 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-31 07:29 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 07:36 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-31 17:47 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 09:37 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-01 00:00 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 11:34 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-01 12:31 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-06-01 12:48 -0800
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:22 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-06-02 07:09 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-06-02 16:27 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-06-02 13:00 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2014-06-02 13:16 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-06-02 13:57 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2014-08-29 13:38 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-29 22:14 +0300
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? greymaus <greymausg@mail.com> - 2014-08-29 20:55 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-30 01:21 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-31 23:54 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-01 09:23 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-06-01 09:44 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-31 23:54 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 11:21 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-06-01 09:59 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-06-02 07:03 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-06-04 09:33 -0800
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-06-01 09:35 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:31 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-06-01 21:59 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 16:46 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-31 07:26 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-31 12:48 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 07:44 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 07:32 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-06-01 12:18 -0800
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 18:59 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-30 07:28 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 09:26 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-30 15:24 -0800
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 17:40 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 16:24 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2014-05-30 15:57 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 16:14 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-31 12:46 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-31 21:41 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-01 12:31 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:19 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-06-02 07:06 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2014-05-29 21:46 +0200
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-29 21:31 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 20:49 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-30 02:00 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 11:42 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-30 06:32 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 16:22 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-30 22:43 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-30 08:06 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:29 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-30 13:23 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 09:44 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 15:52 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> - 2014-05-30 07:18 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 21:09 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-05-30 16:17 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-30 13:19 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-30 21:47 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-30 23:01 +0100
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-30 18:44 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 17:17 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-30 07:51 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 09:47 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-30 08:03 -0400
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 09:48 -0500
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-31 15:03 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-30 12:53 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 15:14 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-05-29 13:33 +0000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 14:40 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Will Honea <whonea@whonea.net> - 2014-05-26 20:38 -0600
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 13:32 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 05:58 +1000
Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-25 15:09 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-24 09:41 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 20:37 +1000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-24 14:05 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-24 18:48 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-25 12:34 +0200
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-25 13:57 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-25 17:15 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-25 15:44 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> - 2014-05-25 16:28 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 06:39 +1000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-24 21:22 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 08:19 +1000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-25 08:10 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 20:44 +1000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-25 16:11 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 04:16 +1000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-25 10:28 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-25 15:09 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> - 2014-05-25 16:32 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-25 17:39 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2014-05-25 12:20 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-25 18:55 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-25 20:02 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2014-05-25 22:29 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2014-05-25 17:20 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-26 05:06 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-26 11:45 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-26 12:34 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-26 14:28 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-26 16:05 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 12:35 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-26 13:41 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 14:39 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-26 16:03 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2014-05-26 11:27 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-26 12:26 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-26 13:36 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 18:46 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-26 21:27 +0200
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-26 15:46 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2014-05-26 17:01 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 11:40 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-26 14:59 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-27 12:17 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn ERSHC <ershc123@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-27 03:50 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 05:50 +1000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-26 12:54 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 17:49 +0000
Re: a long way from a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-26 17:55 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-26 19:48 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 18:59 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-27 09:03 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-27 16:01 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 16:03 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-27 16:55 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 17:47 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-27 21:34 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-27 21:20 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-05-27 20:16 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-28 11:22 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-28 13:27 +0300
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-05-29 15:20 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-30 11:39 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:19 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-30 07:43 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-30 13:19 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:29 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-30 16:57 +0300
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-27 17:28 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 17:48 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-05-27 18:12 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-27 17:05 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-28 00:12 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-28 08:08 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-28 11:01 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn cb@bobby.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2014-05-28 11:02 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-27 08:53 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rob Brown <brown@greenslade.gmcl.internal> - 2014-05-27 21:05 +0000
Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-27 22:21 +0000
Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2014-05-28 14:38 -0500
Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-29 01:50 +0100
Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-29 07:34 +0100
Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-29 10:08 +0100
Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-29 10:15 +0100
Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-29 09:40 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-26 20:58 +0200
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-27 09:35 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-26 20:58 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-26 21:16 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 20:22 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 11:33 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-27 10:49 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-26 23:46 +0200
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-27 06:39 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2014-05-27 10:45 +0000
Re: components not found in a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-25 19:05 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-25 22:23 +0200
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-26 17:20 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-27 13:01 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-29 00:24 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-29 12:52 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-29 15:00 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-05-29 14:21 -0700
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-30 11:40 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2014-05-25 17:30 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-25 20:38 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 16:29 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-24 14:28 -0500
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-26 07:54 -0800
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-24 22:37 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> - 2014-05-25 07:16 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2014-05-25 10:26 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2014-05-24 07:28 -0400
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-25 16:08 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-25 19:33 +0000
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2014-05-31 09:06 +0100
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-31 10:28 +0200
Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-26 17:54 +0100
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2014-05-26 21:27 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <66hc5b-ko42.ln1@news.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #3241 |
On 2014-05-26, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: > On 26-May-14 07:35, Peter Flass wrote: >> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> "tube" is good too, the thing is a glass tube on a plastic base with some >>>> metal innards. >>> >>> It's not a tube, though, is it. It's closed at both ends. >> >> A "pipe bomb" is still a "pipe", even though it's closed on both ends. > > It has caps on both ends, but the pipe part is still a pipe. > > The glass in a vacuum "tube" is a single piece only open on one end, > which does not match any other use I've seen of the word "tube". Test tube? -- Paul Sture The final step of #heartbleed recovery is to call your mother, and advise her to change her maiden name -- @gojomo
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| From | Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-26 15:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.LNX.2.02.1405261544030.16950@darkstar.example.org> |
| In reply to | #3251 |
On Mon, 26 May 2014, Paul Sture wrote: > On 2014-05-26, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: >> On 26-May-14 07:35, Peter Flass wrote: >>> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>>> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> "tube" is good too, the thing is a glass tube on a plastic base with some >>>>> metal innards. >>>> >>>> It's not a tube, though, is it. It's closed at both ends. >>> >>> A "pipe bomb" is still a "pipe", even though it's closed on both ends. >> >> It has caps on both ends, but the pipe part is still a pipe. >> >> The glass in a vacuum "tube" is a single piece only open on one end, >> which does not match any other use I've seen of the word "tube". > > Test tube? > I thought of that, and wondered and then dismissed the idea that maybe early tube work was done with test tubes. Fleming basically took a light bulb and added a plate, creating a rectifier. So I don't know how that fits into where "tube" came from. Old books and magazines likely are the clue, not available to the wikipediar generation. Michael
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| From | "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-26 17:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lm0dkc$l8s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3253 |
"Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1405261544030.16950@darkstar.example.org... > On Mon, 26 May 2014, Paul Sture wrote: > >> On 2014-05-26, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: >>> On 26-May-14 07:35, Peter Flass wrote: >>>> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>>>> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> "tube" is good too, the thing is a glass tube on a plastic base with >>>>>> some >>>>>> metal innards. >>>>> >>>>> It's not a tube, though, is it. It's closed at both ends. >>>> >>>> A "pipe bomb" is still a "pipe", even though it's closed on both ends. >>> >>> It has caps on both ends, but the pipe part is still a pipe. >>> >>> The glass in a vacuum "tube" is a single piece only open on one end, >>> which does not match any other use I've seen of the word "tube". >> >> Test tube? >> > I thought of that, and wondered and then dismissed the idea that maybe > early tube work was done with test tubes. > > Fleming basically took a light bulb and added a plate, creating a > rectifier. So I don't know how that fits into where "tube" came from. Old > books and magazines likely are the clue, not available to the wikipediar > generation. > Actually, when Thomas Edison was experimenting with the light bulb, he added another positive electrode in the bulb. He noticed that electricity would flow across the vacuum to that electrode. This thermionic emission is called the "Edison effect, and Edison patented it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermionic_emission -- numerist at aquaporin4 dot com
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| From | "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 11:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lm1q37$lcu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3268 |
"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote in message news:lm0dkc$l8s$1@dont-email.me... > > Actually, when Thomas Edison was experimenting with the light bulb, I remember (yes, I'm Methusaleh!) the press conference when Edison first gave a public demonstration. When you entered the hall, it was lit by gaslight. When the gaslights were suddenly extinguished, a switch was thrown, and a glass bulb started glowing and slowly filled the hall with light, causing great excitement amongst the gathered reporters who all started rushing for the door, anxious to be the first in print, when Edison shouted, "Stop, gentlemen, that's no it!", and walking up to the glass bulb he spoke, "Come here, Watson, I want you!"
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| From | Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> |
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| Date | 2014-05-26 14:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lm06eg$rcu$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3251 |
On 26-May-14 14:27, Paul Sture wrote: > On 2014-05-26, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: >> On 26-May-14 07:35, Peter Flass wrote: >>> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>>> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> "tube" is good too, the thing is a glass tube on a plastic >>>>> base with some metal innards. >>>> >>>> It's not a tube, though, is it. It's closed at both ends. >>> >>> A "pipe bomb" is still a "pipe", even though it's closed on both >>> ends. >> >> It has caps on both ends, but the pipe part is still a pipe. >> >> The glass in a vacuum "tube" is a single piece only open on one >> end, which does not match any other use I've seen of the word >> "tube". > > Test tube? Good point; I stand corrected. S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 12:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <0.532f3d7f8175c211c627.20140527121717BST.87r43feaiq.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #3255 |
Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> writes: > On 26-May-14 14:27, Paul Sture wrote: >> On 2014-05-26, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: >>> On 26-May-14 07:35, Peter Flass wrote: >>>> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>>>> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> "tube" is good too, the thing is a glass tube on a plastic >>>>>> base with some metal innards. >>>>> >>>>> It's not a tube, though, is it. It's closed at both ends. >>>> >>>> A "pipe bomb" is still a "pipe", even though it's closed on both >>>> ends. >>> >>> It has caps on both ends, but the pipe part is still a pipe. >>> >>> The glass in a vacuum "tube" is a single piece only open on one >>> end, which does not match any other use I've seen of the word >>> "tube". >> >> Test tube? > > Good point; I stand corrected. I was going to point to tube socks and toothpaste tube. There's also inner tube which has no ends at all! The tubeness of things with tube in the name is not a simple matter. -- Ben.
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| From | ERSHC <ershc123@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 03:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lm122m$540$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3241 |
On Mon, 26 May 2014 13:36:01 -0500, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
> On 26-May-14 07:35, Peter Flass wrote:
>> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> "tube" is good too, the thing is a glass tube on a plastic base with some
>>>> metal innards.
>>>
>>> It's not a tube, though, is it. It's closed at both ends.
>>
>> A "pipe bomb" is still a "pipe", even though it's closed on both ends.
>
> It has caps on both ends, but the pipe part is still a pipe.
>
> The glass in a vacuum "tube" is a single piece only open on one end,
> which does not match any other use I've seen of the word "tube".
>
Test-tube?
--
ershc@cunyvm.cuny.edu first a wall and then a crown
follow up and follow down
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 05:50 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <buhka4F9f2nU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #3209 |
"Peter Flass" <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1339320351422800395.058004peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org... > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >> In article >> <184580719422740789.778666peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.o >>> , Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>>> In article <buen2nFkqrlU1@mid.individual.net>, Osmium >>>> <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>>> "Tim Streater" wrote: >>>>>>>> If you mean the electronic devices it comes from their mode of >>>>>>> operation where a control grid varies the flow of electrons in the >>>>>>> same way a control wheel/lever controls the flow of liquid in a >>>>>>> mechanical valve. >>>>>>>>>> As opposed to "tube", a word that bears no relation to the >>>>>>>>>> functioning >>>>>> of the device. >>>>>> I think I sense a dig there. >>>>>> A "horseless" carriage? Wireless? >>>>>> And in what way are these words/phrases inaccurate? >>>> "tube" is good too, the thing is a glass tube on a plastic base with >>>> some >>> metal innards. >> >> It's not a tube, though, is it. It's closed at both ends. > > A "pipe bomb" is still a "pipe", even though it's closed on both ends. That's because its made from a pipe. Not true of the tube being discussed.
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| From | Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-26 12:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <538371c2$31$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> |
| In reply to | #3171 |
In <250520141855225987%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/25/2014 at 06:55 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said: >And in what way are these words/phrases inaccurate? How is a box containing components strung together with wires "wireless"? Don't expect natural languages to make sense. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT <http://patriot.net/~shmuel> Unsolicited bulk E-mail subject to legal action. I reserve the right to publicly post or ridicule any abusive E-mail. Reply to domain Patriot dot net user shmuel+news to contact me. Do not reply to spamtrap@library.lspace.org
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-26 17:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <llvuro$s2o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3230 |
In comp.misc "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote: > In <250520141855225987%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/25/2014 > at 06:55 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said: > >And in what way are these words/phrases inaccurate? > How is a box containing components strung together with wires > "wireless"? > Don't expect natural languages to make sense. Radio (electromagnetic communication) in the days of its initial development was often referred to as "wireless". I suspect this was because it was competing against the telegraph system of the day, and to send a telegraph from New York to Boston required that wires be strung from New York to Boston. Radio did not require those telegraph wires to communicate from New York to Boston, and so, it got named "wireless". Even though many "wires" were involved, not the least of which was the very long mast called an antenna. Which, back in Radio's early days, was often a long wire strung between two poles.
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| From | John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-26 17:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: a long way from a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn |
| Message-ID | <llvv78$281f$1@miucha.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #3234 |
>> Don't expect natural languages to make sense. > >Radio (electromagnetic communication) in the days of its initial >development was often referred to as "wireless". > >I suspect this was because it was competing against the telegraph >system of the day, ... Yup. The French term for radio was "TSF", télégraphie sans fils, telegraphy without wires. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-26 19:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <260520141948291288%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #3234 |
In article <llvuro$s2o$1@dont-email.me>, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote: > In comp.misc "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> > wrote: > > In <250520141855225987%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/25/2014 > > at 06:55 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said: > > > >And in what way are these words/phrases inaccurate? > > > How is a box containing components strung together with wires > > "wireless"? > > > Don't expect natural languages to make sense. > > Radio (electromagnetic communication) in the days of its initial > development was often referred to as "wireless". > > I suspect this was because it was competing against the telegraph > system of the day, and to send a telegraph from New York to Boston > required that wires be strung from New York to Boston. Radio did not > require those telegraph wires to communicate from New York to Boston, > and so, it got named "wireless". > > Even though many "wires" were involved, not the least of which was the > very long mast called an antenna. Which, back in Radio's early days, > was often a long wire strung between two poles. Well done. Quite why this was too much for Mr Metz is a puzzle. -- "If you're not able to ask questions and deal with the answers without feeling that someone has called your intelligence or competence into question, don't ask questions on Usenet where the answers won't be carefully tailored to avoid tripping your hair-trigger insecurities." - D M Procida, UCSM
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-26 18:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lm02u7$vn5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3243 |
In comp.misc Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > In article <llvuro$s2o$1@dont-email.me>, Rich <rich@example.invalid> > wrote: > > In comp.misc "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> > > wrote: > > > In <250520141855225987%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/25/2014 > > > at 06:55 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said: > > > > > >And in what way are these words/phrases inaccurate? > > > > > How is a box containing components strung together with wires > > > "wireless"? > > > > > Don't expect natural languages to make sense. > > > > Radio (electromagnetic communication) in the days of its initial > > development was often referred to as "wireless". > > > > I suspect this was because it was competing against the telegraph > > system of the day, and to send a telegraph from New York to Boston > > required that wires be strung from New York to Boston. Radio did not > > require those telegraph wires to communicate from New York to Boston, > > and so, it got named "wireless". > > > > Even though many "wires" were involved, not the least of which was the > > very long mast called an antenna. Which, back in Radio's early days, > > was often a long wire strung between two poles. > Well done. Quite why this was too much for Mr Metz is a puzzle. Could this possibly be one answer: http://www.beloit.edu/mindset/2017/
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| From | Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 09:03 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53848d30$2$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> |
| In reply to | #3243 |
In <260520141948291288%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/26/2014 at 07:48 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said: >Well done. Quite why this was too much for Mr Metz is a puzzle. It wasn't to much, simply irrelevant. The fact remains that the "wireless" used wires. Why that is too much for you is obvious. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT <http://patriot.net/~shmuel> Unsolicited bulk E-mail subject to legal action. I reserve the right to publicly post or ridicule any abusive E-mail. Reply to domain Patriot dot net user shmuel+news to contact me. Do not reply to spamtrap@library.lspace.org
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 16:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <270520141601489225%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #3287 |
In article <53848d30$2$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>, Seymour J. <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote: > In <260520141948291288%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/26/2014 > at 07:48 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said: > > >Well done. Quite why this was too much for Mr Metz is a puzzle. > > It wasn't to much, simply irrelevant. The fact remains that the > "wireless" used wires. Not for transmitting/receiving the signal it didn't, which is what is relevant here. -- Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network. -- Tim Berners-Lee
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| From | "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 16:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lm29ge$9ja$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3290 |
"Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message
news:270520141601489225%timstreater@greenbee.net...
> In article <53848d30$2$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>, Seymour J.
> <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In <260520141948291288%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/26/2014
>> at 07:48 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>>
>> >Well done. Quite why this was too much for Mr Metz is a puzzle.
>>
>> It wasn't to much, simply irrelevant. The fact remains that the
>> "wireless" used wires.
>
> Not for transmitting/receiving the signal it didn't, which is what is
> relevant here.
<PEDANT>
The antennae, the air transducers, use wires
</PEDANT>
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 16:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20140527165501.97240f6e0d3e01948da84220@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #3291 |
On Tue, 27 May 2014 16:03:41 +0100 "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: > "Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message > news:270520141601489225%timstreater@greenbee.net... > > In article <53848d30$2$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>, Seymour J. > > <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote: > > > >> In <260520141948291288%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/26/2014 > >> at 07:48 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said: > >> > >> >Well done. Quite why this was too much for Mr Metz is a puzzle. > >> > >> It wasn't to much, simply irrelevant. The fact remains that the > >> "wireless" used wires. > > > > Not for transmitting/receiving the signal it didn't, which is what is > > relevant here. > > <PEDANT> > The antennae, the air transducers, use wires > </PEDANT> <PEDANT> What does air have to do with it ? They work fine in a vacuum. </PEDANT> -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 17:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lm2fir$q3u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3293 |
"Ahem A Rivet's Shot" <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 27 May 2014 16:03:41 +0100
> "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> <PEDANT>
>> The antennae, the air transducers, use wires
>> </PEDANT>
>
> <PEDANT>
> What does air have to do with it ? They work fine in a vacuum.
> </PEDANT>
>
<PEDANT>
That maybe so, but they're not in a vacuum, they're in the air, which
gave rise
to the ealier term for antenna which was aerial, derived from aerial wire to
distinguish
it from the earth wire.
</PEDANT>
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 21:34 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20140527213436.9bb308373152a94598473464@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #3295 |
On Tue, 27 May 2014 17:47:21 +0100 "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: > "Ahem A Rivet's Shot" <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in message > news:20140527165501.97240f6e0d3e01948da84220@eircom.net... > > On Tue, 27 May 2014 16:03:41 +0100 > > "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: > >> > >> <PEDANT> > >> The antennae, the air transducers, use wires > >> </PEDANT> > > > > <PEDANT> > > What does air have to do with it ? They work fine in a vacuum. > > </PEDANT> > > > > <PEDANT> > That maybe so, but they're not in a vacuum, they're in the air, > which gave rise > to the ealier term for antenna which was aerial, derived from aerial wire > to distinguish > it from the earth wire. > </PEDANT> Older term ? On this side of the pond aerial is current usage. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 21:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bukdtbFjv7sU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #3300 |
On Tue, 27 May 2014 21:34:36 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > On Tue, 27 May 2014 17:47:21 +0100 "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> > wrote: > >> "Ahem A Rivet's Shot" <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in message >> news:20140527165501.97240f6e0d3e01948da84220@eircom.net... >> > On Tue, 27 May 2014 16:03:41 +0100 "gareth" >> > <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: >> >> >> >> <PEDANT> >> >> The antennae, the air transducers, use wires >> >> </PEDANT> >> > >> > <PEDANT> >> > What does air have to do with it ? They work fine in a vacuum. >> > </PEDANT> >> > >> > >> <PEDANT> >> That maybe so, but they're not in a vacuum, they're in the air, >> which gave rise to the ealier term for antenna which was aerial, >> derived from aerial wire to distinguish it from the earth wire. >> </PEDANT> > > Older term ? On this side of the pond aerial is current usage. That depends. I've always used 'antenna'. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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