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Re: Yahoo move to Ireland for GCHQ security reasons

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On 2014-03-23, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> From the «also, weather's better» department:
> Title: Theresa May warns Yahoo that its move to Dublin is a security worry
> Author: Nick Hopkins
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 16:46:09 -0400
> Link: http://feeds.theguardian.com/c/34708/f/663871/s/3873a0b7/sc/46/l/0L0Stheguardian0N0Ctechnology0C20A140Cmar0C20A0Ctheresa0Emay0Eyahoo0Edublin0Esecurity0Eworry/story01.htm
> Podcast Download URL: http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/3/20/1395347895429/Theresa-May-walking-into--008.jpg
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> Internet firm is known to be unhappy about snooping and would be under no
> obligation to hand over material under Irish laws

Irish law became part of EU law wwhile ago, before that, was ven more
stringent


>
> Theresa May summoned the internet giant Yahoo for an urgent meeting on
> Thursday to raise security concerns after the company announced plans to move
> to Dublin where it is beyond the reach of Britain's surveillance laws.
>
> By making the Irish capital rather than London the centre of its European,
> Middle East and Africa operations, Yahoo cannot be forced to hand over
> information demanded by Scotland Yard and the intelligence agencies through
> "warrants" issued under Britain's controversial anti-terror laws.
>
> Yahoo has had longstanding concerns about securing the privacy of its
> hundreds of millions of users – anxieties that have been heightened in recent
> months by revelations from the whistleblower Edward Snowden.
>
> In February, the Guardian revealed that Britain's eavesdropping centre GCHQ
> intercepted and stored the images of millions of people using Yahoo webcams[2]
> , regardless of whether they were suspects. The data included a large
> quantity of sexually explicit pictures.
>
> The company said this represented "a whole new level of violation of our
> users' privacy".
>
> The home secretary called the meeting with Yahoo to express the fears of
> Britain's counter-terrorism investigators. They can force companies based in
> the UK to provide information on their servers by seeking warrants under the
> Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000 (Ripa).[3]
>
> The law, now under review by a parliamentary committee, has been widely
> criticised for giving police and the intelligence agencies too much access to
> material such as current emails and internet searches, as well as anything
> held on company records.
>
> However, the Guardian has been told that Charles Farr,[4] the head of the
> office for security and counter-terrorism (OSCT) within the Home Office, has
> been pressing May to talk to Yahoo because of anxiety in Scotland Yard's
> counter-terrorism command about the effect the move to Dublin could have on
> their inquiries.
>
> Farr, a former senior intelligence officer, coordinates the work of Scotland
> Yard and the security service MI5, to prevent terrorist attacks in the UK.
>
> "There are concerns in the Home Office about how Ripa will apply to Yahoo
> once it has moved its headquarters to Dublin," said a Whitehall source. "The
> home secretary asked to see officials from Yahoo because in Dublin they don't
> have equivalent laws to Ripa. This could particularly affect investigations
> led by Scotland Yard and the national crime agency. They regard this as a
> very serious issue."
>
> The move to make Dublin the centre of its headquarters for Europe, the Middle
> East and Africa (EMEA) was announced last month and will take effect from
> Friday.
>
> In a statement at the time, Yahoo said Dublin was a natural home for the
> company and that it would be incorporated into Irish laws.
>
> The firm insisted the move was driven by "business needs … we believe it is
> in the best interest of our users. Dublin is already the European home to
> many of the world's leading global technology brands."
>
> However, the firm has been horrified by some of the surveillance programmes
> revealed by Snowden and is understood to be relieved that it will be beyond
> the immediate reach of UK surveillance laws.
>
> Following the Guardian's disclosures about snooping on Yahoo webcams, the
> company said it was "committed to preserving our users trust and security and
> continue our efforts to expand encryption across all of our services." It
> said GCHQ's activity was "completely unacceptable..we strongly call on the
> world's governments to reform surveillance law."Explaining the move to
> Dublin, the company said: "The principal change is that Yahoo EMEA, as the
> new provider of services to our European users, will replace Yahoo UK Ltd as
> the data controller responsible for handling your personal information. Yahoo
> EMEA will be responsible for complying with Irish privacy and data protection
> laws, which are based on the European data protection directive."
>
> Emma Carr, deputy director of Big Brother Watch, said: "It should not come as
> a surprise if companies concerned about maintaining their users' trust to
> hold their information start to move to countries with more rigorous
> oversight processes, particularly where courts oversee requests for
> information." Surveillance laws have a direct impact on our economy and
> Yahoo's decision should be ring an alarm in Parliament that ignoring the
> serious questions about surveillance that are being debated around the world
> will only harm Britain's digital economy."
>
> Under Ripa, a warrant can be issued for an investigation that has
> implications for national security, or might lead to the prevention or
> detection of serious crimes.
>
> Warrants to seek the retention of communications data can be issued by
> specified officers within police forces and the intelligence agencies.
>
> More intrusive surveillance techniques can require the signature of a cabinet
> minister. From Friday, investigators may have to seek information by using a
> more drawn out process of approaching Yahoo through a Mutual Legal Assistance
> Treaty between Ireland and the UK.
>
> A Home Office spokesperson said: "We do not confirm the details of private
> meetings."
>
> * Yahoo[5]
> * Theresa May[6]
> * NSA[7]
> * The NSA files[8]
> * Privacy[9]
> * Surveillance[10]
> * Internet[11]
> * Ireland[12]
> * Europe[13]
>
> Nick Hopkins[14]theguardian.com[15] © 2014 Guardian News and Media Limited or
> its affiliated companies. All rights reserved. | Use of this content is
> subject to our Terms Conditions[16] | More Feeds[17]
>
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> Links:
> [1]: http://hits.theguardian.com/b/ss/guardiangu-feeds/1/H.25.5/54167?ns=guardianpageName=Article%3Atheresa-may-yahoo-dublin-security-worry%3A2062963&ch=Technology&c3=Guardian&c4=Yahoo+%28Technology%29%2CTheresa+May%2CNSA%2CNSA+files%2CPrivacy+%28News%29%2CSurveillance+%28News%29%2CInternet%2CTechnology%2CUK+news%2CIreland+%28News%29%2CEurope+%28News%29&c5=Unclassified%2CNot+commercially+useful%2CTechnology+Gadgets%2CCorporate+IT&c6=Nick+Hopkins&c7=2014%2F03%2F20+08%3A46&c8=2062963&c9=Article&c10=News&c13=&c19=GUK&c47=UK&c64=UK&c65=Theresa+May+warns+Yahoo+that+its+move+to+Dublin+is+a+security+worry&c66=News&c67=nextgen-compatible&c72=&c73=&c74=&c75=&h2=GU%2FNews%2FTechnology%2FYahoo (image)
> [2]: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/27/gchq-nsa-webcam-images-internet-yahoo (link)
> [3]: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/23/contents (link)
> [4]: https://www.gov.uk/government/people/charles-farr (link)
> [5]: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/yahoo (link)
> [6]: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/theresamay (link)
> [7]: http://www.theguardian.com/world/nsa (link)
> [8]: http://www.theguardian.com/world/the-nsa-files (link)
> [9]: http://www.theguardian.com/world/privacy (link)
> [10]: http://www.theguardian.com/world/surveillance (link)
> [11]: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/internet (link)
> [12]: http://www.theguardian.com/world/ireland (link)
> [13]: http://www.theguardian.com/world/europe-news (link)
> [14]: http://www.theguardian.com/profile/nickhopkins (link)
> [15]: http://www.theguardian.com (link)
> [16]: http://www.theguardian.com/help/terms-of-service (link)
> [17]: http://www.theguardian.com/help/feeds (link)
> [18]: http://feeds.theguardian.com/c/34708/f/663871/s/3873a0b7/sc/46/mf.gif (image)


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