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Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp

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Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> "q.kontinuum"<achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk>:
>
>> Are there any decent peer to peer services? Where connections are
>> managed from a central place, but communication happens peer to peer
>> rather than centralized? Or is there a solution providing good enough
>> encryption? Any good concept for encrypted chat for laymen? (I.e. key
>> creation and configuration should be fairly simple, security should be
>> verifiable to a certain extent etc.)
>
> Once IPv6 takes over, you won't need any service in between. Everybody
> just needs to run a daemon (aka "app") on their edge device and form
> whatever groups they need.
>
> Encryption and authentication will be tricky. Hand-delivering public
> keys won't scale so you will need a trusted external party. I can't see
> a better long-term choice but the government.
>
>
> Marko

I was never able to find the app on Android's app store, but I looked a 
couple times because my wife's family uses it and I thought I'd try.  I 
believe it had a security snafu or two about a year ago, which required 
them to take it down for a while.

I'd like to propose Jabber as a protocol, but understand it fails now in 
the age of smart phones etc. that would have a user "appear" on line 
over the course of the day from different machines.  Jabber wasn't made 
for that.  Perhaps it could be extended, but it took a long time for all 
stakeholders and standards bodies to even coalesce around the Jabber 
protocol, so I'm not convinced that could happen quickly.

There's Google Hangouts, but I'm now immensely leary of anything that 
ties me into the Google ecosystem (I'm a hypocrite with an Android in my 
pocket, I know) for the same reasons I was leery of Microsoft a decade 
ago: everything comes as a package, and you don't get Hangouts without 
also getting G+, which immediately overtakes your Youtube account, which 
requires you to confirm an email address via Gmail etc.  It's no better 
than Outlook -> Exchange -> Sharepoint -> Server package, etc.

Meanwhile, back on topic, I don't think there's a suitable protocol in 
the open for us to use.  Some smart dude ought to quick propose one and 
maybe make some money with it.  Seems like an opportunity.

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Facebook buying WhatsApp "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-20 00:02 +0100
  Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-02-20 01:59 +0200
    Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-20 01:19 +0100
      Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-02-20 09:20 +0200
        Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-20 17:34 +0100
    Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-20 08:54 +0000
      Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-02-20 11:36 +0200
      Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-20 10:08 -0500
        Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-20 10:38 +1038
          Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-02-20 11:36 -0600
            Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp "Andy K." <andy.k466@gmail.com> - 2014-02-21 00:02 +0100
  Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-20 07:17 +0000
    Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp Koen <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-02-20 15:38 +0000
    Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-20 17:18 +0100
      Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-21 17:17 +0100
  Re: Facebook buying WhatsApp Marek Novotny <mach2@hushmail.com> - 2014-02-20 10:09 -0600

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