Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees!

From	Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees!
Date	2014-03-19 22:55 +0100
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On 2014-03-17, Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:
> Paul Sture wrote:
>
>>I've come across write-only backup tapes too, aka DAT. :-(
>
> On my first PC I used tape backup, but the drives all failed (and
> were replaced FOC) after 6 months of light domestic use,
> rendering irretrievable anything on the tape it failed with.

I used to work in a place with lots of tape drives and fortunately
the DLT-IV drives were very reliable.   The few DAT drives were under
maintenance contract and always getting replaced - I couldn't help but
think most of the replacements were refurbished.

> The failure mode appeared to leave it trying fruitlessly to do
> some sort of error recovery, but it just spent hours shuffling
> the tape to and fro, until I had to put it out of its misery.

That's know as "shoe shining" and is definitely going to wear the heads.

> After the fourth, which was a completely new design, I lost all
> faith in a backup system which was far less reliable than the
> system it was supposedly protecting.

I don't blame you.

> My next system used what was then rather expensive DVD-RAM,
> though it worked well, at a time when its capacity was (just)
> sufficient.

When my home DAT drive died DVDs were still expensive so I survived on
CDs until DVD prices dropped.

-- 
Paul Sture

"In that case," said Napoleon, "let us wait twenty minutes; when the enemy
is making a false movement we must take good care not to interrupt him."

Thread

Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-06 22:38 -0800
  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! xyzzy <stalkers-suck@grr.la> - 2014-02-07 00:16 -0800
  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! "I'm Batman, Dammit" <batman@thecave.invalid> - 2014-02-07 09:44 +0000
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-09 03:39 +0000
      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-08 22:46 -0500
        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-09 23:14 +0000
          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-10 01:55 +0000
            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-09 21:12 -0500
              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-09 18:28 -0800
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-09 23:35 -0500
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-10 12:39 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-11 04:05 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 09:25 -0500
              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-26 00:11 -0500
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-02-26 22:20 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-03-02 23:40 -0500
            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-20 17:14 +0000
              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2014-03-05 10:05 +0000
          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-26 00:03 -0500
  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> - 2014-02-07 10:47 +0000
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! CoolHand <coolhnd28@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 21:40 -0500
      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! JJ <jjdane@nospamgmail.com> - 2014-02-08 08:51 +0100
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Austin Wolfe <aewolfe@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2014-03-05 01:58 +0000
      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-05 09:37 +0000
        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2014-03-05 14:25 +0100
          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-03-05 07:02 -0800
            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-06 10:55 +0000
              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-06 12:09 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-06 14:13 +0100
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-06 16:56 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-06 17:05 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-16 14:39 +0100
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-16 17:25 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-19 22:47 +0100
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk> - 2014-03-17 08:20 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-19 22:55 +0100
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-06 21:18 +0100
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-06 23:00 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-07 00:53 +0100
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-07 04:58 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-07 10:11 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-07 21:04 +0100
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-07 10:52 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-07 13:02 +0200
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-07 12:26 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-07 15:15 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-07 20:55 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2014-03-06 14:03 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-06 17:55 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-06 13:43 +0000
              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2014-03-06 10:48 -0800
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-06 19:45 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-06 13:15 -0800
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-03-10 20:25 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2014-03-10 14:07 -0700
                Usenet Archive (was. Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees!) Christian <chris_news@arcor.de> - 2014-03-22 09:40 +0100
                Re: Usenet Archive (was. Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees!) "voyager529" <voyager529@live.com> - 2015-03-27 10:14 -0400
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2014-03-10 21:55 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-10 22:25 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-03-11 06:14 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-11 07:55 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-03-11 08:38 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-12 08:08 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-11 10:31 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-10 22:26 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Dario Niedermann <dnied@tiscali.it> - 2014-03-11 10:42 +0100
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-03-10 22:05 -0700
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Chris Elvidge <chris@raspberrypi.mshome.net> - 2014-03-11 10:48 +0000
        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-05 09:48 -0500
          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-05 15:22 +0000
          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! nobody@nowhere.invalid (natp) - 2014-03-06 02:42 +0000
            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-03-06 06:08 -0600
              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-06 14:10 +0200
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-06 13:26 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2014-03-06 16:56 +0200
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-06 18:25 +0200
  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-07 11:55 -0500
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-07 19:30 +0000
      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-09 03:35 +0000
        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-10 12:37 +0000
        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-25 23:50 -0500
  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 14:23 -0800
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-08 00:15 +0000
      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 16:41 -0800
        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-08 10:09 -0500
          Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-08 15:44 +0000
            Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Brian Burns <spamcan@tannasg.tk> - 2014-02-08 17:18 +0000
              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2014-02-08 18:34 +0000
                Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-08 19:52 +0000
              Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 10:25 -0500
  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 03:20 +0000
  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 09:36 -0800
  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! junkmailid1@gmail.com - 2014-02-09 13:27 -0800
  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! invis <invis@invis.net> - 2014-02-10 00:31 +0000
  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! AnonymousCoward <florian.doyon@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 04:50 -0800
  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! gm_stack <gm@stackunderflow.com> - 2014-02-10 05:04 -0800
  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! arcfide@sacrideo.us (Aaron W. Hsu) - 2014-02-23 03:02 -0500
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-02-23 09:34 +0000
      Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-02-23 07:31 -0800
        Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-02-23 17:36 +0000
    Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-02-23 12:23 +0200
  Re: Welcome Slashdot refugees! scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2014-02-26 17:30 +0000

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