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Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops?

From Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops?
Date 2017-03-13 12:58 +0000
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On 13/03/17 00:38, Michael Casadevall wrote:
> I've been recently fighting a major uphill battle with adding a second
> monitor to my desktop, and in what is quite possibly a fit of insanity,
> went and compiled CDE from source. The end result is surprisingly usable
> though Motif has some hiccups with dealing with X apps that are a bit
> too smart (pinentry-x11) for their own good.
>
> I'd like to say that this is a *NIX only problem, but Windows 8 and 10
> also pail in comparison for usability and "getting stuff done" that 7
> had.

Both Linux and Windows are way too tied up with forced code to get it 
all 'plug and play' compatible, however its stuff that doesn't play 
nicely with users when it fails.

This class of code gets worse with every new generation of the OS and 
workarounds get more difficult when their developers forget what's out 
there and still usable in the real world. 'Plug and Pray' indeed.

For example, both Windows 10 and Ubuntu/X11 use DDC for automatic 
monitor capability detection. They also use the presence a new DDC 
communication for detecting that the monitor has become attached.

I use my monitor through a Belkin omniview rack KVM that doesn't 
properly passthrough VGA's DDC, so...

  Ubuntu needs a custom xorg.conf file added to give it a modeline for 
the native monitor resolution it can't see, and ...

  Windows 10 display settings constantly need changing to use the 
external monitor for a laptop every time it's reconnected to via the KVM 
switch - it makes a half-hearted attempt to autoconfig, gives up and 
switches back to the laptop internal screen (which lives in a cupboard). 
I have programmed a keyboard shortcut to get me out of that one, but 
AFAICS disabling connected monitor notifications can't be done in 
Windows 10, and this wasn't a issue / feature with previous Windows 
releases.

-- 
Adrian C

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Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? Michael Casadevall <mcasadevall@soylentnews.org> - 2017-03-12 20:38 -0400
  Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> - 2017-03-13 12:58 +0000
  Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-03-13 21:03 -0400
    Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? Michael Casadevall <mcasadevall@soylentnews.org> - 2017-03-13 22:31 -0400
      Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-03-14 23:17 -0400
        Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? Kerry Imming <kcimming@pobox.com> - 2017-03-15 07:00 -0500
          Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2017-03-15 11:37 -0400
            Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? Kerry Imming <kcimming@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 08:29 -0500
              Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-03-16 16:22 +0200
            Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2017-03-18 20:02 +0100
              Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-03-19 19:06 -0400
                Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? Michael Casadevall <mcasadevall@soylentnews.org> - 2017-03-24 12:58 -0400
    Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? Pham Nuwen <phamnuwen@example.com> - 2017-03-14 09:50 -0700
  Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2017-03-14 03:03 -0500
  Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-03-14 11:47 -0400
  Re: Am I the only one sick of "modern" desktops? Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2017-03-14 12:42 +0200

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