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On Fri, 03 Mar 2017 18:29:05 +0000, Caecilius wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:26:46 -0500, RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> 
>>https://kukuruku.co/post/the-collapse-of-the-unix-philosophy/
>>
>>James Hague, a veteran of programming (has been in programming since the
>>eighties), writes the following: “What I was trying to get across is
>>that if you romanticize Unix, if you view it as a thing of perfection,
>>then you lose your ability to imagine better alternatives and become
>>blind to potentially dramatic shifts in thinking”.
> 
> I think part of the problem is that OS development seems to have
> stalled.  In the 1980s, I remember using a few different operating
> systems: Unix (mainly SunOS), VMS, IBM VM/CMS, and MS-DOS (which I
> didn't really consider a proper OS at all).  I'm sure there were others.

I agree. I worked on a system that had a VERY limited distribution (four 
sites), and did some development on it:

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Multiple_Access_System

> Since then, we've gained Windows NT, but that's about it isn't it? Plan9
> and hurd never went anywhere; and OS/2 and BeOS are dead.

Windows NT retains a certain amount of VMS, of course.

I still run VMS for fun!

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the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-03-02 16:26 -0500
  Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-03-03 00:09 +0200
    Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-03-03 00:04 +0000
      Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-03 00:25 +0000
        Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-03-03 11:02 +0000
          Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-03 11:05 +0000
            Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-03-03 11:06 +0000
            Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2017-03-03 15:40 +0200
        Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-03-03 23:01 +0100
          Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-03 22:13 +0000
      Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-03-03 14:07 +0200
        Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-03-03 12:12 +0000
        Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks "RS Wood" <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-03-03 08:47 -0500
          Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-03-03 16:37 +0200
  Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2017-03-03 02:37 +0000
  Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-03-03 11:01 +0000
  Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-03 12:12 +0000
    Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-03 13:51 +0000
      Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-03 14:19 +0000
        Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-03-03 12:59 -0500
          Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-03-03 18:14 +0000
            Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2017-03-03 16:06 -0400
    Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-03-03 16:02 +0000
      Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2017-03-04 15:44 +0200
  Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Caecilius <nospam@spamless.invalid> - 2017-03-03 18:29 +0000
    Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-03 22:16 +0000
      Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-03-04 07:35 +0000
        Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-03-04 10:19 +0100
          Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-03-04 11:16 +0000
            Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-03-04 12:47 +0100
              Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-04 12:35 +0000
        Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-04 09:42 +0000
          Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-03-04 11:20 +0000
            Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-03-04 12:48 +0100
            Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-04 12:34 +0000
              Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-03-04 15:39 +0000
                Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Mike Tomlinson <mike@jasper.org.uk> - 2017-03-18 13:06 +0000
                Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-03-19 18:56 -0400
                Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-20 00:35 +0000
                Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Mike Tomlinson <mike@jasper.org.uk> - 2017-03-20 05:47 +0000
                Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Mike Tomlinson <mike@jasper.org.uk> - 2017-03-20 06:06 +0000
                Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-03-21 19:01 +0100
          Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-03-04 12:41 +0100
            Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-03-04 12:58 +0100
            Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-04 12:34 +0000
            Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-03-04 15:43 +0000

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