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Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com

From Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com
Date 2014-06-25 14:38 +0300
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <87egydkylu.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> (permalink)
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"tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com>:

> Without the cookie, you would have to check it again on every page. So
> to answer your question, if they are genuinely completely static
> sites, they don't need to set cookies, but sites like that are rare
> nowadays.

The web site wouldn't need cookies to represent the client/session
state. However, cookies make it possible to not store session
information on the server. On the other hand, marketing data is
collected left and right anyway, so the space-saving issue is probably
moot in the days of Big Data.

The crucial benefit of cookies is that you can maintain an
authentication context. That way, you don't have to keep logging in
every time you access a page or site. The web server first authenticates
itself with a TLS certificate and then the client authenticates itself
with a cookie.

There are ways to handle the authentication context without cookies as
well (hidden fields), but then you'd have to log in again every time you
open the web site in a tab, or the server would have to embed your
authentication ticket in the URL, which gets stored in plain text.


Marko

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motherfuckingwebsite.com RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-23 12:26 +0000
  Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-06-23 10:11 -0500
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      Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-06-24 03:23 -0500
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        Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-25 14:38 +0300
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            Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-25 12:24 +0000
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                Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-25 16:53 +0300
                Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Adrienne Boswell <arbpen@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-25 15:36 +0000
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    Re: motherfuckingwebsite.com Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-06-25 12:06 -0400
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