Re: [CM] Two interesting articles on Symbolics/Lisp

From	Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.misc, comp.lang.lisp
Subject	Re: [CM] Two interesting articles on Symbolics/Lisp
Date	2014-06-15 16:34 -0700
Organization	Nightsong/Fort GNOX
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References	(1 earlier) <7x61k4vjwx.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> <20140613140301.696@kylheku.com> <lnjsv3$f63$4@solani.org> <lnk5ia$h5k$1@dont-email.me> <lnl96u$ac8$1@speranza.aioe.org>

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Richard Fateman <fateman@cs.berkeley.edu> writes:
> I agree with the notion implicit in the cited remarks that Symbolics
> provided a productive environment, and many subsequent systems
> (e.g. IBM PC, MS-DOS, Windows) represented huge backward steps. But
> Symbolics' user interface was not without rivals from Sun, Bell Labs
> (BLT), Xerox, Apollo, DEC, Tektronix, IBM (RT), HP, Apple(Lisa), CMU
> and probably others in that time frame.

Well, when I asked why Rainer singled out Symbolics, I was getting at
something narrower, which is that most of the stuff in the article
applied to all of the MIT-descended Lisp machines, not just Symbolics.
Those included the original CADR, the TI Exploder, the LMI machines, and
there may have been another one?  They had the same hardware
architecture (the later hardware implementations diverged) and mostly
the same software as the Symbolics machines, from what I gather.  I
didn't get to use any of them very much though, so differences between
them may be going past me.  

Fairly recently there were some projects to emulate the CADR hardware on
modern PC's and then run the original CADR code on them.  I don't know
if any of those reached usability though.

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[CM] Two interesting articles on Symbolics/Lisp RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-13 11:37 +0000
  Re: [CM] Two interesting articles on Symbolics/Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-13 09:44 -0700
    Re: [CM] Two interesting articles on Symbolics/Lisp Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-06-13 19:06 +0000
    Re: [CM] Two interesting articles on Symbolics/Lisp Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-06-13 21:03 +0000
      Re: [CM] Two interesting articles on Symbolics/Lisp RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-06-15 10:36 +0000
        Re: [CM] Two interesting articles on Symbolics/Lisp Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2014-06-15 13:03 +0000
          Re: [CM] Two interesting articles on Symbolics/Lisp Richard Fateman <fateman@cs.berkeley.edu> - 2014-06-15 16:11 -0700
            Re: [CM] Two interesting articles on Symbolics/Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-15 16:34 -0700
              Re: [CM] Two interesting articles on Symbolics/Lisp Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2014-06-16 08:48 +0000

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