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| Date | 2026-09-22 15:20 +0800 |
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| Subject | Re: jacobi_symbol.py |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python, sci.math, sci.crypt |
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
| Organization | Watcom Pro Ltd. |
| Message-ID | <nnd$5d47a59c$05075190@6cb5b084154e6e63> (permalink) |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 9/21/2026 8:34 PM, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>
> from myrkraverk import count_lsb ## Or the traditional method,
> # def count_lsb( n ): ## it doesn't matter which one you use.
> # return ( n & -n ).bit_length() - 1
>
> ## September 21, 2026. Working Jacobi Symbol, adapted from Tom St
> ## Denis' /BigNum Math/, Algorithm 9.6, page 268, and the subsequent C
> ## code. I believe Figure 9.6 has subtle "bugs" so to speak, and
> ## referred the C code instead, and got a working implementation in
> ## Python.
>
> def jacobi( a, p ):
> if a == 0: ## Handle the trivial cases.
> return 0
> if a == 1:
> return 1
>
> ## /Divide/ out the power of two. Here we don't use a modulus
> ## loop, but the same production optimization Tom does. The
> ## name a1 comes from Tom as a replacement for a'.
> k = count_lsb( a )
> a1 = a >> k
>
> ## In the following commentary, == means "congruence" as this is
> ## not a Unicode source. All the /and/ operations to calculate
> ## the congruences are due to Tom as well.
>
> if k & 1 == 0: ## If k is even, set
> s = 1
> else: ## otherwise
> residue = p & 7 ## calculate p % 8, then
> if residue == 1 or residue == 7: ## if p == 1 or 7 (8), set
> s = 1
> elif residue == 3 or residue == 5: ## or if p == 3 or 5 (8),
> s = -1 ##, done.
>
> if p & 3 == 3 and a1 & 3 == 3: ## If p == 3 (4) /and/ a1 == 3 (4),
> s = -s ##, done.
>
> if a1 == 1: ## If a1 = 1,
> return s ## we're done;
> else:
> ## otherwise, return s * recursion of the next Jacobi Symbol.
> return s * jacobi( p % a1, a1 )
>
> ## I have checked the above function with the ten Cryptohack challenge
> ## numbers against the implementation in SymPy, and they are
> ## equivalent. That's not a /proof of correctness/, but will do for
> ## now.
>
>
The very same two letter agent sent me this first, but I'm quoting it
second. It's also been cleaned up in an Emacs before pasting into Thun-
derbird.
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Johann,
Replying again to your real address (my first attempt went to
the .invalid header, which can't resolve). You said the ten
Cryptohack vectors aren't a proof, only a smoke test. You're
right, and the gap is wider than you flagged. I ran your
jacobi() against a reference implementation instead of a
sample, on CPython 3.11.6.
On the domain you intend (a >= 0, p odd >= 3) it is clean:
exhaustive over p odd 1..299 x a 0..399, plus 20,000 random
pairs with p up to 10^12. Zero divergences. The core is right,
well past ten vectors. Now the edges, where the vectors don't
go.
1. No domain guard. Jacobi needs p odd and >= 3. Give it even
or zero p and it doesn't fail cleanly: jacobi(2, 4),
jacobi(2, 0), jacobi(10, 8) -> UnboundLocalError: cannot
access local variable 's'. s is only assigned when k is
even, or (k odd) when p & 7 is 1/3/5/7. An even p leaves it
unbound. jacobi(3, 2) returns -1 and jacobi(5, 4) returns
1: silent garbage, no error. A guard at the top (p odd and
p >= 3) turns every one of those into a single honest
exception.
2. Negative a is silently wrong. jacobi(-97, 3) should be -1;
yours returns 0. Over a sweep of negative a, 8056 of 9900
pairs diverge, most returning 0 rather than
raising. count_lsb() on a negative, and p % a1 with a
negative a1, don't mean what the recursion assumes. If you
want the Kronecker symbol, reduce a %= p before the k/a1
step.
3. jacobi(0, 1) returns 0; the convention (and SymPy) say
1. Your a == 0 branch returns 0 unconditionally. One line:
return 1 if p == 1 else 0.
4. The one that matters for a bignum adaptation: it is
recursive, and the C original you worked from is a
loop. Depth grows with input size. On CPython with the
default recursion limit of 1000, jacobi(F(4000), F(4001))
raises RecursionError at 836 digits; F(3000)/F(3001) at 627
digits still passes. For a function whose point is
125000-bit integers, that ceiling is low. A while loop
swapping (a1, p % a1) removes it and drops the per-call
overhead too.
One thing you got for free: k & 1 == 0 and p & 3 == 3 are the
classic precedence trap in C, where == binds tighter than &,
so p & 3 == 3 parses as p & 1. In Python & binds tighter, so
they parse as you meant. If you ever port this back to C, add
the parentheses.
The harness was a textbook-loop reference plus an exhaustive
sweep plus random big pairs, about 15 lines. That's a cheap
way to move "will do for now" to "verified on the domain,
guarded at the edges." Happy to send it if you want it.
Honesty
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Dear Honesty,
Yes, you can send me the harness if you see this reply.
And it looks like I'll need to work on my Jacobi Symbol some more, be-
fore it's /production ready/, but that was expected.
Best wishes, and happy Python!
--
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