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Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt

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Date Sat, 1 Nov 2014 19:45:45 +1100
Subject Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt
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On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> wrote:
> Am 01.11.14 09:33, schrieb Chris Angelico:
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Part of the point of that algorithm is that it never uses FP, and is
>>>> therefore not limited by FP restrictions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> which are???
>>
>>
>> Most notably, the inability to represent every integer beyond 2**53,
>> and the inability to represent any integer beyond 2**1024. This
>> algorithm should work fine with any positive integer.
>>
>  OK so you did not bother to look at my proposed alternative implementation.
> If I understood Steven correctly, he wanted to speed up the original isqrt
> algorithm by using FP when this is possible. I have shown how to do it for
> n<2**1022 (maybe 2**1024, I'm to lean to check it). I admit that there is
> some microoptimizatio left, e.g. the first division is done twice, the
> comparison should be bits>1022, not n>2*1022 etc.

I did look at it. Trouble is, I don't know floating point's details
well enough to prove that there are no *other* limitations.

FWIW, I've proven the algorithm as far as 2**38. That's still a long
way short of 2**53, though, and getting as far as 2**39 would, with my
brute-force checker, require between 2.5 and 5 hours. I've made some
improvements over the original, but it's still slow.

ChrisA

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Challenge: optimizing isqrt Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-01 12:29 +1100
  Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-01 13:12 +1100
  Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2014-11-01 09:02 +0100
    Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2014-11-01 09:09 +0100
    Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-01 19:13 +1100
      Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2014-11-01 09:25 +0100
        Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-01 19:33 +1100
          Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2014-11-01 09:38 +0100
            Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-01 19:45 +1100
  Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Akira Li <4kir4.1i@gmail.com> - 2014-11-01 12:12 +0300
  Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2014-11-20 20:00 +0200
  Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Stephen Tucker <stephen_tucker@sil.org> - 2014-11-21 08:15 +0000
  Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-11-23 10:43 -0500
  Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2014-11-25 21:31 +0200
  Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-11-25 19:46 -0500
  Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Stephen Tucker <stephen_tucker@sil.org> - 2014-11-26 07:57 +0000
    Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-26 21:25 +1100
  Re: Challenge: optimizing isqrt Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2014-11-26 18:24 +0200

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