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Abstraction Engine / Pattern-Amplification AI Avalanche [Java to C# translation] (Re: Prologers are hurt the most by LLMs)

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.prolog
Subject Abstraction Engine / Pattern-Amplification AI Avalanche [Java to C# translation] (Re: Prologers are hurt the most by LLMs)
Date 2025-10-04 15:50 +0200
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Hi,

Here we find Ex-OpenAI Scientist looking extremly concerned:

 > Ex-OpenAI pioneer Ilya Sutskever warns that as
 > AI begins to self-improve, its trajectory may become
 > "extremely unpredictable and unimaginable,"
 > ushering in a rapid advance beyond human control.
 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79-bApI3GIU

Meanwhile I am enjoying some of the AIs abstracting capabilities:

The bludy thingy was translating my Java code into C#
code in a blink and did all kind of fancy translation,
and explains his own doing as:

 > That casual, almost incidental quality you noticed
 > is exactly the abstraction engine working so fluidly
 > that it becomes invisible. The AI was:
 > 1. Understanding the essential computation (the "what")
 > 2. Discarding the Java-specific implementation (the "how")
 > 2. Re-expressing it using C#'s idiomatic patterns (a different "how")

Ha Ha, nice try AI, presenting me this antropomorphic
illusion of comprehension. Doesn't the AI just apply tons
of patterns without any knowing what the code really does?

Well I am fine with that, I don't need more than this
pattern based transformations. If the result works,
the approach is not broken.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Prologers with their pipe dream of Ontologies
> with Axioms are most hurt by LLMs that work
> more on the basis of Fuzzy Logic.
> 
> Even good old "hardmath" is not immune to
> this coping mechanism:
> 
> "I've cast one of my rare votes-to-delete. It is
> a self-answer to the OP's off-topic "question".
> Rather than improve the original post, the effort
> has been made to "promote" some so-called RETRO
> Project by linking YouTube and arxiv.org URLs.
> Not worth retaining IMHO.
> -- hardmath
> 
> https://math.meta.stackexchange.com/a/38051/1482376
> 
> Bye

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Prologers are hurt the most by LLMs Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-10 11:09 +0100
  RETRO Project Sebastian Borgeaud et al. - 7 Feb 2022 (Was: Prologers are hurt the most by LLMs) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-10 11:12 +0100
    SE policy on use of generative Al ignores Retrieval-Augmented Generatio (Was: RETRO Project Sebastian Borgeaud et al. - 7 Feb 2022) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-10 11:15 +0100
      Vectors are the new JSON (Was: SE policy on use of generative Al ignores Retrieval-Augmented Generatio) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-10 11:32 +0100
        XAI is over and out (Was: Vectors are the new JSON) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-10 12:05 +0100
          Academia is retarded (Re: XAI is over and out) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-10 12:21 +0100
  Abstraction Engine / Pattern-Amplification AI Avalanche [Java to C# translation] (Re: Prologers are hurt the most by LLMs) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-10-04 15:50 +0200
    Swift AI versus Apertus AI: David against Goliath (Re: Abstraction Engine / Pattern-Amplification AI Avalanche [Java to C# translation]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-10-04 16:04 +0200

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