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  Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Torsten Jørgensen <info@stconinc.com> - 2012-04-20 10:32 +0200
    Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-20 07:22 -0400
      Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Torsten Jørgensen <info@stconinc.com> - 2012-04-21 15:11 +0200
        Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-21 10:22 -0400
        Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-04-21 14:42 +0000
          Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Torsten Jørgensen <info@stconinc.com> - 2012-04-21 19:16 +0200
          Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Torsten Jørgensen <info@stconinc.com> - 2012-04-21 19:43 +0200
            Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-04-24 08:54 +0000
              Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Torsten Jorgensen <info@stconinc.com> - 2012-04-28 01:46 +0200
    Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-04-21 19:22 +0200
      Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Torsten Jørgensen <info@stconinc.com> - 2012-04-21 19:42 +0200
        Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-04-22 10:24 +0200
          Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Torsten Jørgensen <info@stconinc.com> - 2012-04-22 10:53 +0200
            Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-22 09:25 -0400
              Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-04-23 11:04 +0200
                Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-23 08:47 -0400
              Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Torsten Jørgensen <info@stconinc.com> - 2012-04-24 00:06 +0200
                Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2012-04-23 17:43 -0500
                  Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com> - 2012-04-24 05:53 -0700
    Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2012-04-22 19:04 +0200
      Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Torsten Jørgensen <info@stconinc.com> - 2012-04-24 00:04 +0200
        Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Erwin Moller <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> - 2012-04-24 10:24 +0200
          Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Torsten Jorgensen <info@stconinc.com> - 2012-04-28 01:50 +0200
            Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-27 21:58 -0400
              Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Torsten Jorgensen <info@stconinc.com> - 2012-04-29 17:53 +0200
                Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-29 13:15 -0400
    Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Torsten Jorgensen <info@stconinc.com> - 2012-04-28 01:54 +0200
      Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-27 22:03 -0400
      Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-04-28 10:36 +0200
      Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Graham Hobbs <ghobbs@cdpwise.net> - 2012-04-28 10:01 -0400
        Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-28 16:41 +0100
          Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-04-28 20:17 +0200
        Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-28 14:33 -0400
          Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-04-28 22:32 +0100
            Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-28 22:56 +0100
              Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-28 19:36 -0400
            Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-28 19:36 -0400
            Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-28 20:24 -0400
              Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-04-29 13:09 +0100
                Re: Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-29 11:14 -0400

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#5691

On 2012-04-22 17:04:26 +0000, Luuk said:

> On 20-04-2012 10:32, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>> supported software
>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>> 
>> I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why web,
>> yeah why not.
> 
> You should try to make better software,
> before trying to sell it...

Take it easy. Harass.

>> 
>> How this works out may not be immediately apparant, but they are exact
>> terms, so it
>> can be settled in a court. There is a way.
> 
> http://www.stweto.biz/demo/account/library/account.dat
> 
> If my business-data could be aquired that easily....
> I would start a business right now... ;)
> (or i would sue my software vendor)
> 
>> 
>> Sterling WebTools(tm) can be found at the following website: www.stweto.biz


-- 
This time machine is really funky...

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#5695

On 4/24/2012 12:04 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
> On 2012-04-22 17:04:26 +0000, Luuk said:
>
>> On 20-04-2012 10:32, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>> supported software
>>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>
>>> I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why web,
>>> yeah why not.
>>
>> You should try to make better software,
>> before trying to sell it...
>
> Take it easy. Harass.
>

Dear Torsten,

If you reflect on this thread, and how things worked out for you, how do 
you think you could have produced better results for yourself?

Regards,
Erwin Moller


-- 
"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without 
evidence."
-- Christopher Hitchens

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#5769

On 2012-04-24 08:24:04 +0000, Erwin Moller said:

> On 4/24/2012 12:04 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>> On 2012-04-22 17:04:26 +0000, Luuk said:
>> 
>>> On 20-04-2012 10:32, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>> supported software
>>>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>> 
>>>> I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why web,
>>>> yeah why not.
>>> 
>>> You should try to make better software,
>>> before trying to sell it...
>> 
>> Take it easy. Harass.
>> 
> 
> Dear Torsten,
> 
> If you reflect on this thread, and how things worked out for you, how 
> do you think you could have produced better results for yourself?
> 
> Regards,
> Erwin Moller

Look, all I have seen is insinuating morons raving about legal action 
and trying
to insult me. I expect all the good people to somehow hold back and 
send me a few
more emails. Take a piss...

-- 
Get your widget out of my way.

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#5771

On 4/27/2012 7:50 PM, Torsten Jorgensen wrote:
> On 2012-04-24 08:24:04 +0000, Erwin Moller said:
>
>> On 4/24/2012 12:04 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>> On 2012-04-22 17:04:26 +0000, Luuk said:
>>>
>>>> On 20-04-2012 10:32, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>>> supported software
>>>>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why web,
>>>>> yeah why not.
>>>>
>>>> You should try to make better software,
>>>> before trying to sell it...
>>>
>>> Take it easy. Harass.
>>>
>>
>> Dear Torsten,
>>
>> If you reflect on this thread, and how things worked out for you, how
>> do you think you could have produced better results for yourself?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Erwin Moller
>
> Look, all I have seen is insinuating morons raving about legal action
> and trying
> to insult me. I expect all the good people to somehow hold back and send
> me a few
> more emails. Take a piss...
>

You're the one who started with "it can be settled in court".

You won't get any support here, even from the morons.  I suggest you 
take a basic business course.  Your very first message destroyed any 
possibility of anyone respecting you in this newsgroup - and probably 
most usenet groups.

Maybe you should try a lawyer's newsgroup.  They'll be glad to sue 
people for you - for a price, of course.



-- 
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
==================

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#5792

On 2012-04-28 01:58:21 +0000, Jerry Stuckle said:

> On 4/27/2012 7:50 PM, Torsten Jorgensen wrote:
>> On 2012-04-24 08:24:04 +0000, Erwin Moller said:
>> 
>>> On 4/24/2012 12:04 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>> On 2012-04-22 17:04:26 +0000, Luuk said:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 20-04-2012 10:32, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>>>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>>>> supported software
>>>>>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why web,
>>>>>> yeah why not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You should try to make better software,
>>>>> before trying to sell it...
>>>> 
>>>> Take it easy. Harass.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear Torsten,
>>> 
>>> If you reflect on this thread, and how things worked out for you, how
>>> do you think you could have produced better results for yourself?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Erwin Moller
>> 
>> Look, all I have seen is insinuating morons raving about legal action
>> and trying
>> to insult me. I expect all the good people to somehow hold back and send
>> me a few
>> more emails. Take a piss...
>> 
> 
> You're the one who started with "it can be settled in court".
> 
> You won't get any support here, even from the morons.  I suggest you 
> take a basic business course.  Your very first message destroyed any 
> possibility of anyone respecting you in this newsgroup - and probably 
> most usenet groups.
> 
> Maybe you should try a lawyer's newsgroup.  They'll be glad to sue 
> people for you - for a price, of course.

CAN be settled in court...Hello.
-- 
Sterling Consulting Incorporated
Torsten Jorgensen

Hedevangen 16, Rebild
9520 Skorping
Denmark

info@stconinc.com
www.stconinc.com

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#5793

On 4/29/2012 11:53 AM, Torsten Jorgensen wrote:
> On 2012-04-28 01:58:21 +0000, Jerry Stuckle said:
>
>> On 4/27/2012 7:50 PM, Torsten Jorgensen wrote:
>>> On 2012-04-24 08:24:04 +0000, Erwin Moller said:
>>>
>>>> On 4/24/2012 12:04 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>>> On 2012-04-22 17:04:26 +0000, Luuk said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20-04-2012 10:32, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>>>>>> supported software
>>>>>>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why
>>>>>>> web,
>>>>>>> yeah why not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You should try to make better software,
>>>>>> before trying to sell it...
>>>>>
>>>>> Take it easy. Harass.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Torsten,
>>>>
>>>> If you reflect on this thread, and how things worked out for you, how
>>>> do you think you could have produced better results for yourself?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Erwin Moller
>>>
>>> Look, all I have seen is insinuating morons raving about legal action
>>> and trying
>>> to insult me. I expect all the good people to somehow hold back and send
>>> me a few
>>> more emails. Take a piss...
>>>
>>
>> You're the one who started with "it can be settled in court".
>>
>> You won't get any support here, even from the morons. I suggest you
>> take a basic business course. Your very first message destroyed any
>> possibility of anyone respecting you in this newsgroup - and probably
>> most usenet groups.
>>
>> Maybe you should try a lawyer's newsgroup. They'll be glad to sue
>> people for you - for a price, of course.
>
> CAN be settled in court...Hello.

Yup.  ANYTHING can be settled in court.  Only an idiot or a crook would 
bring that up at the first contact.

Which are you?

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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
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#5770

On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:

> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the 
> supported software
> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.

Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com

That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has 
been running
for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.

If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)

-- 
Get your widget out of my way.

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#5772

On 4/27/2012 7:54 PM, Torsten Jorgensen wrote:
> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>
>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>> supported software
>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>
> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>
> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
> been running
> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>
> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>

ROFLMAO!  You mean about 2 Japanese Yen (if that much).

BTW - who designed your website?  Your three-year old daughter?  Even 
the trolls here could do a better job.

-- 
==================
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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
==================

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#5777

Am 28.04.2012 01:54, schrieb Torsten Jorgensen:
> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
> 
>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the supported software
>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
> 
> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com

I was wondering what this is about, so I had a look.

The web site behaves strangely, when I click on one menu button they all disappear,
except Home.

Then it does not make clear to me what you want.

Most important: it lacks any information about the responsible person. Missing
impressumer and företagsinformation can lead to court action. Seriously.

/Str.

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#5780

On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
<info@stconinc.com> wrote:

>On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>
>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the 
>> supported software
>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>
>Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>
>That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has 
>been running
>for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>
>If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)

Torsten,

No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.

I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
arena. You wouldn't be considered.

Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.

Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
best?  
Graham Hobbs

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#5781

Graham Hobbs wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
> <info@stconinc.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>>
>>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the 
>>> supported software
>>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>>
>> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has 
>> been running
>> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>>
>> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
> 
> Torsten,
> 
> No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
> 
> I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
> website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
> arena. You wouldn't be considered.
> 
> Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
> Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
> convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
> 

I have no best way mate.

Its worth listening to WHY (if they actually explain) they think your 
way is 'wrong' and if they have valid points, modifying it, but the fact 
is you don't write a 1000 programmer corporate database the same way as 
you write  a device driver for a USB peripheral.

And people who have worked solely on the one will never have  anything 
relevant to say about the other.

Having worked more or less at both ends I don't involve myself in 
religious narrow minded arguments except to point out that they are 
ignorant narrow minded arguments.

If the other other guys apart from me have given you pause for thought, 
and made things clearer, so much the better.

I am not always the best person to copy anyway: I code fast and in small 
groups and the maintainer is mostly me. That may not be what you want or 
need. If you are gearing code towards maintainability by lower than 
average intelligence hackers like Jerry, you will need to spend far more 
time commenting and writing documentation: The solution that achieves 
its results in ten incomprehensible (to jerry) lines is simply no good. 
You MUST use the approach that he was taught and will recognise even if 
its hopelessly out of date, insecure and inefficient. IF he is the sort 
of asshole that is all your company can afford to employ.

And since that is the only sort of company that ever HAS employed jerry, 
you cab see that his recommendations TO that company are entirely correct.

"If you employ assholes like me you must write code FOR assholes like 
me, and this is all I know".


> Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
> best?  
> Graham Hobbs

You cant unless you are intelligent enough to use critical thinking to 
assess what people say and in the context of what you are trying to do.


Otherwise your name is jerry and you simply  buy a text book that tells 
you what is 'right' and slavishly do it that way. And hope your next 
employer didn't buy a DIFFERENT text book.



-- 
To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

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#5782

Am 28.04.2012 17:41, schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
> Graham Hobbs wrote:

> 
>> Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
>> best?  Graham Hobbs
> 
> You cant unless you are intelligent enough to use critical thinking to assess what
> people say and in the context of what you are trying to do.
> 

+1

Usenet gives a very limited view. With some attention you can see a little of how
people behave. But you can't know if they are productive, unless you know some of
their record.

And then, productivity is not the sum of the source lines written, but the problems
solved.

/Str.

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#5783

On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
> <info@stconinc.com>  wrote:
>
>> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>>
>>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>> supported software
>>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>
>> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>>
>> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
>> been running
>> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>>
>> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>
> Torsten,
>
> No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
>
> I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
> website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
> arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>
> Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
> Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
> convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>
> Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
> best?
> Graham Hobbs

Graham,

I never said it was "my way".  I use the methods advocated by 
world-recognized experts like Booch.

You can easily tell a crap programmer.  They make statements like "It 
works, so it's correct."  Good programmers know there is much more than 
just making something work under the current set of circumstances.

And BTW - Tony has shown NO competence other than maybe a casual 
knowledge of PHP semantics.  And he is unwilling to understand why 
people like Booch advocate what they do.


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jstucklex@attglobal.net
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#5785

In article <jnhd56$2or$1@dont-email.me>,
 Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:

> On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
> > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
> > <info@stconinc.com>  wrote:
> >
> >> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
> >>
> >>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
> >>> supported software
> >>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
> >>
> >> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
> >>
> >> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
> >> been running
> >> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
> >>
> >> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
> >
> > Torsten,
> >
> > No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
> >
> > I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
> > website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
> > arena. You wouldn't be considered.
> >
> > Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
> > Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
> > convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
> >
> > Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
> > best?
> > Graham Hobbs
> 
> Graham,
> 
> I never said it was "my way".  I use the methods advocated by 
> world-recognized experts like Booch.

Never heard of him.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#5786

Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <jnhd56$2or$1@dont-email.me>,
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
>> > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
>> > <info@stconinc.com>  wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>> >>
>> >>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>> >>> supported software
>> >>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>> >>
>> >> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>> >>
>> >> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
>> >> been running
>> >> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>> >>
>> >> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>> >
>> > Torsten,
>> >
>> > No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
>> >
>> > I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
>> > website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
>> > arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>> >
>> > Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
>> > Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
>> > convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>> >
>> > Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
>> > best?
>> > Graham Hobbs
>>
>> Graham,
>>
>> I never said it was "my way".  I use the methods advocated by 
>> world-recognized experts like Booch.
> 
> Never heard of him.
> 
well exactly. Its the first Bible Jerry read and he's been a True 
Believer ever since.


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To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

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#5788

On 4/28/2012 5:56 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Tim Streater wrote:
>> In article <jnhd56$2or$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
>>> > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
>>> > <info@stconinc.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>>> >>> supported software
>>> >>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>>> >>
>>> >> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>>> >>
>>> >> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
>>> >> been running
>>> >> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>>> >>
>>> >> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>>> >
>>> > Torsten,
>>> >
>>> > No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
>>> >
>>> > I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
>>> > website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
>>> > arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>>> >
>>> > Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
>>> > Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
>>> > convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>>> >
>>> > Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
>>> > best?
>>> > Graham Hobbs
>>>
>>> Graham,
>>>
>>> I never said it was "my way". I use the methods advocated by
>>> world-recognized experts like Booch.
>>
>> Never heard of him.
>>
> well exactly. Its the first Bible Jerry read and he's been a True
> Believer ever since.
>
>

No, it's a bit deeper than "Popeye" comics, so I wouldn't expect you to 
have read him.

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#5787

On 4/28/2012 5:32 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <jnhd56$2or$1@dont-email.me>,
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
>> > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
>> > <info@stconinc.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>> >>
>> >>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>> >>> supported software
>> >>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>> >>
>> >> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>> >>
>> >> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
>> >> been running
>> >> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>> >>
>> >> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>> >
>> > Torsten,
>> >
>> > No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
>> >
>> > I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
>> > website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
>> > arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>> >
>> > Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
>> > Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
>> > convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>> >
>> > Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
>> > best?
>> > Graham Hobbs
>>
>> Graham,
>>
>> I never said it was "my way". I use the methods advocated by
>> world-recognized experts like Booch.
>
> Never heard of him.
>

Check it out.  Grady Booch.  One of the world recognized experts in OO.

Of course, that also assumes you know something about OO.  While there 
are a bunch of others, Booch is probably the most famous.

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#5789

On 4/28/2012 5:32 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <jnhd56$2or$1@dont-email.me>,
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
>> > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
>> > <info@stconinc.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>> >>
>> >>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>> >>> supported software
>> >>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>> >>
>> >> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>> >>
>> >> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
>> >> been running
>> >> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>> >>
>> >> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>> >
>> > Torsten,
>> >
>> > No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
>> >
>> > I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
>> > website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
>> > arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>> >
>> > Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
>> > Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
>> > convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>> >
>> > Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
>> > best?
>> > Graham Hobbs
>>
>> Graham,
>>
>> I never said it was "my way". I use the methods advocated by
>> world-recognized experts like Booch.
>
> Never heard of him.
>

Other widely recognized experts include Edward Yourdon, Bjarne 
Stroustrup and Peter Coad.

There are a few others, but these are the ones who come to mind.  They 
have been recognized for years by as experts by other experts in the field.

But I'm not surprised that ditch diggers like TNP have never heard of 
them.

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#5790

In article <jni1nt$fb8$1@dont-email.me>,
 Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:

> On 4/28/2012 5:32 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
> > In article <jnhd56$2or$1@dont-email.me>,
> > Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
> >> > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
> >> > <info@stconinc.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
> >> >>> supported software
> >> >>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
> >> >>
> >> >> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
> >> >>
> >> >> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case. It has
> >> >> been running
> >> >> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)

> >> > No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is strange.
> >> >
> >> > I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
> >> > website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
> >> > arena. You wouldn't be considered.
> >> >
> >> > Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony, TNP,
> >> > Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
> >> > convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
> >> >
> >> > Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know who's
> >> > best?

> >> I never said it was "my way". I use the methods advocated by
> >> world-recognized experts like Booch.
> >
> > Never heard of him.

> Other widely recognized experts include Edward Yourdon, Bjarne 
> Stroustrup and Peter Coad.

My formal computer science education, at Imperial College, dates from 
1968.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#5791

On 4/29/2012 8:09 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <jni1nt$fb8$1@dont-email.me>,
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/28/2012 5:32 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
>> > In article <jnhd56$2or$1@dont-email.me>,
>> > Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 4/28/2012 10:01 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote:
>> >> > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:11 +0200, Torsten Jorgensen
>> >> > <info@stconinc.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 2012-04-20 08:32:22 +0000, Torsten Jørgensen said:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
>> >> >>> supported software
>> >> >>> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Take a look at: www.webtecinc.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That is the corporation that is ging to be handeling the case.
>> It has
>> >> >> been running
>> >> >> for four months now and I have made about 2 Mio. Dkr.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you are interested, send me an email. Hi :-)
>
>> >> > No disrespect but the site, as also pointed out elsewhere, is
>> strange.
>> >> >
>> >> > I will shortly be looking for someone to work on my self developed
>> >> > website because I am far from skilled in the PHP/website development
>> >> > arena. You wouldn't be considered.
>> >> >
>> >> > Aside from that my very real dilemma is that all of Jerry, Tony,
>> TNP,
>> >> > Pointed Ears, etc show indepth knowledge of PHP but none have
>> >> > convinced me 'theirs' is the best/safest way.
>> >> >
>> >> > Given the slagging that goes on here, how can one possibly know
>> who's
>> >> > best?
>
>> >> I never said it was "my way". I use the methods advocated by
>> >> world-recognized experts like Booch.
>> >
>> > Never heard of him.
>
>> Other widely recognized experts include Edward Yourdon, Bjarne
>> Stroustrup and Peter Coad.
>
> My formal computer science education, at Imperial College, dates from 1968.
>

Long before OOP was even a concept!

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