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On 9/1/2013 2:10 PM, Christoph Michael Becker wrote:
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>
>> Christoph Michael Becker wrote:
>>
>>> If one posts wrong information in this newsgroup--wouldn't it be useful
>>> to reply by pointing out that it is wrong?
>>
>> Not if the result of that would be to be called names, regardless of how and
>> what the reply is.  You see, *that* is the problem.  With some people it
>> does not matter what you post and how correct you are, you are always a
>> troll, and always called names.  There are other prominent examples for that
>> attitude in the Big 8, and I have them killfiled as well.  It is just not
>> worth it.
>
> Well, I see your point.
>
>>> However, I wouldn't accept the mere mention in a comment in php.ini a
>>> proof that it increases performance.
>>
>> And well you should not.  However, you should accept it as a recommendation
>> for the mentioned environment, whatever the reasons.  Because those comments
>> are there by default for a reason.
>>
>> And as for assessing performance, you could just use your mind: What does
>> output buffering do?  And UTSL, I have gotten the impression that you can do
>> that.
>
> Of course, buffering output in a well-sized buffer will usually increase
> performance.  Looking at the source, however, might take a long time, as
> I *assume* that one would have to inspect the different SAPIs (and maybe
> code of the respective webserver, too).
>

Not necessarily.  If buffering is already efficient, adding another 
level will generally DECREASE performance.

PHP and Apache do a good job of buffering already; adding another layer 
in the script adds additional, unnecessary overhead.

>>>> And that is just one of many examples where he is – probably out of lack
>>>> of *real* *PHP* *development* experience – dead wrong, while the majority
>>>> of his postings are nothing more than calling someone else troll.
>>>>
>>>> (Q: If he realized it was a troll, why would he not just *stop* *feeding*
>>>> them?  A: It takes one to know one.)
>>>
>>> On the other hand, leaving trolls trolling around, might easily result
>>> in these trolls taking over a discussion group...
>>
>> Utter nonsense.  *Feeding* the troll is the way to destroy the newsgroup,
>> because then it will be filled with off-topic flamewars instead of on-topic
>> discussions, and participants will leave because even their killfile will
>> not help them to see the good threads (they would have to killfile the
>> feeders as well, and then nobody would be left).  You must not have been on
>> Usenet for very long, for simply the record clearly proves me correct.
>
> I have to admit that I'm quite new to usenet.  And of course, you're
> right, that it is the usual recommendation not to feed trolls.
>

I've been on it for over 30 years - in fact, before there was a usenet 
and the main form of mass communications was mail lists.  I still 
remember when usenet started with a couple of servers.  We didn't have 
problems with trolls then, but about the only ones on were 
government/military, universities and corporations doing business with 
the military.  It has changed a lot now, and the trolls generally hide 
in sheeps clothing.  The only way to find out is to see who actually 
helps out by going through the archives.

>>> Besides, calling someone a troll means to pigeon-hole them.  IMO that
>>> seldom fits exactly--there are more colors than just black and white.
>>
>> IIRC, *I* have not called anyone a troll or other names in this newsgroup,
>> ever.  As for “IMO”, you should insert an “H” in the right place, and read
>> above.
>
> I didn't mean to say that you have called anyone a troll or other names;
> I just made a general statement, that's true, IMHO.
>

And then there are those who are intent on correcting other people's 
language, acronyms, spelling and capitalization to whatever THAT person 
deems appropriate.

> BTW: In <news:4414431.ocNU36q1Oe@PointedEars.de> Thomas 'PointedEars'
> Lahn wrote:
>
> | Of course, that one person also had the intelligence not to fall
> | for the resident name-calling troll that started all this nonsense.
>
> :)
>

And of course, the trolls always claim they are innocent and it is 
someone else.

Look through the archives.  See who actually helped others, and who just 
complained.  Make your own decisions.

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  Re: calling a value into another php script... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-08-28 22:56 -0400
    Re: calling a value into another php script... nag <visitnag@gmail.com> - 2013-08-29 06:06 -0700
      Re: calling a value into another php script... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-08-29 09:31 -0400
      Re: calling a value into another php script... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-08-29 17:35 +0200
  Re: calling a value into another php script... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-08-29 11:40 +0200
  Re: calling a value into another php script... Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-29 20:18 -0400
    Re: calling a value into another php script... Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-08-30 02:57 +0200
      Re: calling a value into another php script... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-30 02:54 +0100
        Re: calling a value into another php script... Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-30 17:15 -0400
      Re: calling a value into another php script... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-08-30 11:57 +0200
        Re: calling a value into another php script... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-08-30 08:49 -0400
          Re: calling a value into another php script... Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-08-30 14:30 +0000
            Re: calling a value into another php script... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-08-30 11:42 -0400
              Re: calling a value into another php script... Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-08-31 00:19 +0200
                Re: calling a value into another php script... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-08-30 20:33 -0400
                Re: calling a value into another php script... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-08-30 20:57 -0400
                Re: calling a value into another php script... Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-09-01 20:23 +0200
                Re: calling a value into another php script... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-09-01 15:09 -0400
                Re: calling a value into another php script... Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-08-31 01:28 +0000
                Re: calling a value into another php script... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-31 03:55 +0100
                Re: calling a value into another php script... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-08-30 23:02 -0400
        Re: calling a value into another php script... Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-08-31 00:10 +0200
          Re: calling a value into another php script... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-08-31 01:06 +0200
            Re: calling a value into another php script... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-08-30 20:39 -0400
            Re: calling a value into another php script... Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-09-01 20:10 +0200
              Re: calling a value into another php script... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-09-01 15:19 -0400
            Re: calling a value into another php script... Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-09-02 15:13 -0400
          Re: calling a value into another php script... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-08-30 20:37 -0400
    Re: calling a value into another php script... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-30 02:50 +0100
      Re: calling a value into another php script... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-08-29 22:18 -0400
      Re: calling a value into another php script... Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-08-30 17:24 -0400
        Re: calling a value into another php script... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-08-30 20:41 -0400
    Re: calling a value into another php script... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-08-29 21:50 -0400
  Re: calling a value into another php script... Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-08-31 07:00 -0400

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