Re: Never log deprecation warnings

From	Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.php
Subject	Re: Never log deprecation warnings
Date	2012-09-13 13:01 -0400
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 9/13/2012 5:31 AM, Jonathan Stein wrote:
> On 11-09-2012 22:16, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> I figured you had enough experience to understand the conclusion.  I see
>> I was wrong.
>
> Everyone with the experience to understand your conclusions could have
> drawn the conclusions by them selfs, so they are pretty useless without
> any further explanation.
>
> And when you present a conclusion, that is only valid in some cases as a
> universal truth, it's directly misleading.
>
>> And, every one of the people/groups I've seen crash and burn have
>> promised "it won't happen to us".  But it did.
>
> I have noticed, that you don't accept the idea, that a site can be
> useful as it is, but not important enough to keep alive forever, so I
> don't think this will lead much further.
> But at least you got a new experience this time: I said that it WILL
> happen. Our sites WILL stop working at some day. We know that, and we
> have accepted that.
>
>    Regards
>
>      Jonathan
>

Sure, I accept the idea the site can be useful.  But it's obviously not 
important or you would fix the warnings.  So why waste any other 
resources on it?  Just get rid of it.

And BTW - when you do get ready to go to a new release of PHP, you'll 
have a lot of work ahead of you in testing and validating the code. 
Having to go back and fix warnings you should have fixed months or years 
ago will just add to that workload, delaying the implementation even longer.

And no, it's not a new experience.  Every one of the projects I've seen 
who ignored the warnings have said exactly the same things you're saying 
- including the fact the code "WILL stop working"... But when that 
happened, the code all of a sudden becomes more important and can't be 
dropped so easily.

OTOH, those who have taken the time to fix the warnings long before the 
upgrade have had a much easier time.


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Never log deprecation warnings Jonathan Stein <jstein@image.dk> - 2012-09-06 11:51 +0200
  Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-06 09:10 -0400
    Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jonathan Stein <jstein@image.dk> - 2012-09-06 15:42 +0200
      Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-06 11:26 -0400
  Re: Never log deprecation warnings Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-09-06 15:48 +0200
    Re: Never log deprecation warnings "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2012-09-06 18:04 +0200
      Re: Never log deprecation warnings The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-06 17:33 +0100
        Re: Never log deprecation warnings Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com> - 2012-09-06 10:37 -0700
          Re: Never log deprecation warnings Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-09-06 19:49 +0200
            Re: Never log deprecation warnings The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-06 18:56 +0100
              Re: Never log deprecation warnings Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-09-06 21:53 +0200
        Re: Never log deprecation warnings "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2012-09-06 20:41 +0200
          Re: Never log deprecation warnings The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-06 19:52 +0100
  Re: Never log deprecation warnings Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-09-06 19:59 +0000
    Re: Never log deprecation warnings The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-06 23:34 +0100
  Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jonathan Stein <jstein@image.dk> - 2012-09-07 00:53 +0200
    Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-06 20:09 -0400
    Re: Never log deprecation warnings Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com> - 2012-09-06 18:41 -0700
      Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jonathan Stein <jstein@image.dk> - 2012-09-10 12:43 +0200
        Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-10 07:43 -0400
          Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jonathan Stein <jstein@image.dk> - 2012-09-11 10:38 +0200
            Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-11 08:34 -0400
              Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jonathan Stein <jstein@image.dk> - 2012-09-11 15:06 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-11 09:32 -0400
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jonathan Stein <jstein@image.dk> - 2012-09-11 21:53 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-11 16:16 -0400
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jonathan Stein <jstein@image.dk> - 2012-09-13 11:31 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-13 13:01 -0400
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jonathan Stein <jstein@image.dk> - 2012-09-13 21:33 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-13 20:08 -0400
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> - 2012-09-14 15:41 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2012-09-12 02:28 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-11 21:08 -0400
            Re: Never log deprecation warnings Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-09-12 01:16 +0200
              Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-11 20:18 -0400
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-09-12 12:09 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-12 08:26 -0400
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-09-12 15:42 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-12 15:07 +0100
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-12 12:08 -0400
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Shake <QUITAESTO@QUITAESTO.NOES> - 2012-09-12 18:13 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-12 17:28 +0100
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Shake <QUITAESTO@QUITAESTO.NOES> - 2012-09-12 18:37 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-12 15:01 -0400
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2012-09-12 21:35 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-13 12:53 -0400
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Shake <alex.estevezQUENO@QUENOfilnet.es> - 2012-09-12 21:39 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-13 12:55 -0400
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Shake <QUITAESTO@QUITAESTO.NOES> - 2012-09-13 19:24 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-13 15:02 -0400
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Shake <QUITAESTO@QUITAESTO.NOES> - 2012-09-13 21:12 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-09-13 22:20 +0200
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-13 20:13 -0400
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-09-13 20:10 -0400
                Re: Never log deprecation warnings Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-09-12 23:13 +0100

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