Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails

From	Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.php
Subject	Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails
Date	2014-11-11 12:01 -0500
Organization	Ahungry (http://ahungry.com)
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"James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> writes:

> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message 
> news:m3tc0l$8ic$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 11/11/2014 10:56 AM, James Harris wrote:
>>
>> No, specifically - how can it fail?
>>
>
> ...
>
>> Specifically, how would the constructor fail?
>>
>> I'm not trying to give you a hard time.
>
> Are you sure? .... :-(
>
>>  You can't answer what happens
>> in case of failure without understanding the failure itself.
>
> I think you may be talking about something else. I guess there are lots of 
> ways a constructor can fail: out of memory, no access to a resource, invalid 
> parameter value, incompatible parameters, disk IO error, network outage, 
> invalid credentials, faulty program etc etc. Without knowing the internals 
> of a particular constructor (not a good idea) your question about how that 
> constructor can fail cannot be answered. Even if it could the answer(s) 
> might change when a new version of that constructor is released. So there is 
> no way to sensibly enumerate all potential causes of failure and derive 
> findings from that.
>
> So rather than asking about a specific constructor I was looking to see if 
> there was a PHP rule that could always be applied.
>
> If that's not what you mean can you explain what you have in mind? I cannot 
> understand your meaning from what you have said so far.
>
> James
>
>

Hi James,

Please see/run the snippet:

<?php

class foo
{
  public function __construct()
    {
      $pdo = new PDO('mysql:host=localhost;dbname=fail', 'fail', 'fail');
    }
}

try
{
  $a = new foo();
}
catch(Exception $e)
{
  // Catching what will be a PDO exception
}

var_dump($a);
?>

You will notice that $a is simply undefined (and if you do not have the
try/catch block, you won't make it that far, as your uncaught exception
will bubble up and terminate the script).

Most things that would cause an aspect of php to 'fail' are just built
in exceptions (or for something like divide by zero, a notice will be
thrown but $a will still be the class instance).

I'm not sure how else you could cause a construct to 'fail'.

-- 
Matthew Carter (m@ahungry.com)
http://ahungry.com

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OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2014-11-11 15:13 +0000
  Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-11-11 10:20 -0500
    Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2014-11-11 15:56 +0000
      Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-11-11 11:03 -0500
        Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2014-11-11 16:27 +0000
          Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> - 2014-11-11 12:01 -0500
            Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-11-11 12:56 -0500
          Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-11-11 12:52 -0500
  Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-11 18:12 +0100
  Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2014-11-11 13:03 -0500
  Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-11 23:54 +0100
    Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-12 03:00 +0100
      Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> - 2014-11-11 22:25 -0500
        Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-11-11 22:36 -0500
          Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Matthew Carter <m@ahungry.com> - 2014-11-12 01:30 -0500
            Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-11-12 07:08 -0500
            Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-12 13:30 +0100
              Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-11-12 13:52 +0000
                Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-13 00:46 +0100
                Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-11-12 22:28 -0500
      Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-12 21:30 +0100
        Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-13 01:15 +0100
          Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-13 04:09 +0100
            Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2014-11-13 07:42 +0000
            Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-13 14:11 +0100
              Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-13 21:40 +0100
                Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-14 13:49 +0100
                Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-14 23:25 +0100
          Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-11-12 22:29 -0500
            Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-13 21:45 +0100
              Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-11-13 15:56 -0500
                Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-13 22:09 +0100
                Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-11-13 21:03 -0500
              Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-13 22:47 +0100
                Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-13 22:59 +0100
                Re: OO PHP result of new if a constructor fails "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-18 19:02 +0100

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