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Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android

From Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php
Subject Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android
Date 2013-04-19 22:22 +0200
Message-ID <5171A790.2010001@arnowelzel.de> (permalink)
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Jerry Stuckle, 2013-04-19 22:06:

> On 4/19/2013 4:02 PM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> Arno Welzel, 2013-04-19 22:00:
>>
>>> Jerry Stuckle, 2013-04-19 18:44:
>>>
>>>> On 4/19/2013 11:14 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>>>> Am 19.04.2013 14:09, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/19/2013 3:30 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>>>>>> Jerry Stuckle, 2013-04-15 04:05:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/14/2013 10:33 AM, Luuk wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 14-04-2013 14:48, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/14/2013 3:46 AM, 23alagmy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://iamaspammer.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What does this have to do with PHP, SPAMMER?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> WHY is this message to comp.lang.php, comlaining that someone is
>>>>>>>>> spamming here? The sender of this spammed message probably will not read
>>>>>>>>> it anywayz........
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe, maybe not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But ignoring SPAM does not make it go away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Nothing* makes spam go away except filtering it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your proof?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing will keep spammers from trying to send their stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> So filtering (or better rejecting) spam is the only reasonable solution
>>>>> to avoid it.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's your proof, that spammers will stop, just because you tell them
>>>>> you don't want their spam? How many spammers could you convince to stop
>>>>> it by responding to their spam?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your proof?
>>>
>>> Spam exists.
>>>
>>>> You made the claim that nothing will stop the spammers.  The only claim
>>>> I made was that ignoring it will not stop the spammers.
>>>
>>> So what?
>>>
>>>> So what's your proof?
>>>>
>>>> And yes, I have gotten spammers websites and email accounts terminated.
>>>>    Plus, if you've paid ANY attention, some spammers come back here and
>>>> apologize for spamming.
>>>
>>> Then those people where not spammers - otherwise the would have apologized.
>>
>> Sorry - sent to early and typing to fast...
>>
>> So those people where not spammers - otherwise they would not have
>> apologized since spammers *never* apologize to send spam.
>>
>>
> 
> Maybe *YOU* don't apologize for sending SPAM.  Some people do, when they 
> realize it IS spam.

Then they are not spammers. They are just people who did a mistake.

> A spammer is a person who sends spam - not some subset like you want to 
> make them.  When the error of their ways is pointed out, some people 
> correct those errors.

No - a "spammer" is a person who sends spam and does not care about the
negative effects.

> But then you have a VERY narrow view of who spammers are.  One which is 
> NOT shared by most of the world.

The opposite is true - otherwise everybody would kindly ask every
spammer to stop their business instead of using tools like
SpamAssassing, greylisting, blacklisting etc.



-- 
Arno Welzel
http://arnowelzel.de
http://de-rec-fahrrad.de

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Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-14 08:48 -0400
  Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2013-04-14 16:33 +0200
    Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-14 22:05 -0400
      Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-04-19 09:30 +0200
        Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-19 08:09 -0400
          Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-04-19 17:14 +0200
            Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-19 12:44 -0400
              Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-04-19 22:00 +0200
                Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-04-19 22:02 +0200
                Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-19 16:06 -0400
                Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-04-19 22:22 +0200
                Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-19 17:58 -0400
                OT: What is a spammer (was: Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-04-20 10:02 +0200
                Re: OT: What is a spammer Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-20 07:48 -0400
                Re: OT: What is a spammer Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-20 08:24 -0400
                Re: OT: What is a spammer Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-04-20 14:36 +0200
                Re: OT: What is a spammer Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-20 08:42 -0400
                Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-19 16:05 -0400
  Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-04-19 17:16 +0200
    Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-19 12:44 -0400
      Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-04-19 22:03 +0200
        Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-19 16:08 -0400
          OT: Spam or not to spam (was: Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-04-19 22:27 +0200
            Re: OT: Spam or not to spam Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-19 17:59 -0400
            Re: OT: Spam or not to spam (was: Re: Microsoft accuses Google of pushing services to Android) Doug Miller <doug_at_milmac_dot_com@example.com> - 2013-04-19 22:17 +0000
            Re: OT: Spam or not to spam The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-20 01:31 +0100
              Re: OT: Spam or not to spam Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-04-19 21:02 -0400

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