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Resources to learn common lisp?

Started byMario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es>
First post2026-02-20 22:53 +0100
Last post2026-08-22 11:28 +0800
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  Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-20 22:53 +0100
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2026-02-20 22:00 +0000
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-21 12:25 +0100
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-02-21 10:24 -0500
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-21 21:30 +0000
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-22 01:08 +0100
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-22 04:59 +0000
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-02-22 10:59 +0530
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-22 21:48 +0000
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 12:43 -0400
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 12:41 -0400
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 20:02 +0000
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 00:23 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:28 +0000
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:32 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:27 -0400
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 17:33 +0000
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:16 -0400
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:53 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Axel Reichert <mail@axel-reichert.de> - 2026-06-09 12:07 +0200
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:14 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 00:01 -0400
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-17 05:53 +0000
                        [OT] Disappearing documentation (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 09:06 +0100
                          Re: [OT] Disappearing documentation steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:05 -0400
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:01 -0400
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-20 00:02 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 17:22 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:59 -0700
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 00:55 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:43 -0700
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:45 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:35 +0000
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anthk GM <anthk@disroot.org> - 2026-08-15 22:29 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-15 23:38 +0000
              Buy the official standard from A.N.S.I. (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-16 11:25 +0800
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 12:37 -0400
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:33 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 00:22 -0400
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-09 01:22 -0400
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:17 +0000
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:50 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:40 -0400
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 00:26 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 22:10 -0400
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 21:37 -0700
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Joerg Mertens <joerg-mertens@t-online.de> - 2026-06-17 12:04 +0200
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-17 11:17 +0000
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 13:57 +0000
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:06 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-18 09:17 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-18 13:32 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-18 14:21 -0700
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-19 08:12 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-19 04:27 -0700
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 21:24 -0400
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-20 13:00 -0400
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 07:55 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-18 12:53 -0400
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-18 21:28 -0400
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-19 15:08 -0400
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-19 22:32 -0400
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-20 13:56 -0400
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-21 14:57 -0700
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-22 09:11 -0400
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-24 22:14 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-25 11:20 -0400
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:47 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:21 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-29 19:00 -0400
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:34 +0000
                                        Python blanks (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-02 08:39 +0100
                                          Re: Python blanks ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-02 09:24 +0000
                                            Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 21:10 +0000
                                              Re: Python blanks Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:34 +0100
                                                Re: Python blanks George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-03 02:10 -0400
                                                  Re: Python blanks Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 07:21 +0100
                                                    Re: Python blanks Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 01:47 -0700
                                                      Re: Python blanks Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-03 17:42 -0400
                                                      Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 04:15 +0000
                                                  Re: Python blanks yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2026-07-03 12:51 +0042
                                                    Re: Python blanks Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 11:34 -0700
                                                      Re: Python blanks Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-07-04 04:03 +0000
                                                        Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 04:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Python blanks tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 11:34 +0000
                                                        Re: Python blanks ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-09 13:15 +0000
                                                          Re: Python blanks tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 13:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Python blanks antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-07-09 14:01 +0000
                                                          Re: Python blanks tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 14:39 +0000
                                                            Re: Python blanks antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-07-09 21:03 +0000
                                                              Re: Python blanks tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 21:23 +0000
                                                              Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-09 23:09 +0000
                                                              Re: Python blanks steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 23:05 -0400
                                                                Re: Python blanks George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-06 09:57 -0400
                                                          Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-09 23:08 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-02 13:41 -0400
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 05:45 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-03 10:12 -0400
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 18:43 -0700
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 23:28 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 17:22 -0700
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:47 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 23:24 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-04 21:48 -0400
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 23:56 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:47 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-20 13:43 -0400
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-20 22:28 -0400
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-22 09:16 -0400
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 23:38 +0000
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-26 00:43 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 02:52 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:06 -0400
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-11 05:27 -0400
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 22:12 -0400
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:24 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-11 05:57 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-11 21:07 -0400
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 13:06 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-13 00:13 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 07:25 +0000
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-13 08:25 +0000
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 08:46 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 08:52 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:57 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-15 10:10 +0100
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:56 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 11:46 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:03 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-18 07:52 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 23:35 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 20:56 -0400
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-13 00:55 -0400
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 07:43 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 21:37 -0400
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:09 -0700
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:02 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 10:12 +0000
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 22:54 -0400
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-17 00:07 -0400
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 08:33 +0000
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:48 -0400
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:28 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:42 +0000
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 23:32 -0400
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-09 09:36 -0400
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:06 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-10 08:43 -0400
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 00:22 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-11 08:57 -0400
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-12 00:16 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 21:42 -0400
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 01:15 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-15 05:42 +0000
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 11:19 +0000
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 00:18 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-16 03:27 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 01:25 -0700
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 10:13 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-18 13:57 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:11 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-18 02:30 -0700
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 08:21 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-18 09:32 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 08:24 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 09:47 +0000
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:26 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-02 18:22 -0400
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 04:04 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-03 02:16 -0400
                                            [OT] Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 07:29 +0100
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-03 10:18 -0400
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 03:51 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-04 09:23 -0400
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:46 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 21:44 -0700
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 05:17 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 08:43 +0100
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-06 05:13 -0400
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:03 -0700
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 12:31 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 14:55 -0400
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 08:42 +0100
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-05 11:02 -0400
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-06 01:10 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-06 05:21 -0400
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-07 11:52 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-07-08 01:46 +0000
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-08 03:04 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-07 19:30 -0700
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-07 19:34 -0700
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:03 -0700
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 05:44 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 03:21 -0700
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 23:22 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:15 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 16:04 -0400
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 12:12 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-13 14:59 -0400
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-18 14:15 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 08:23 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 10:02 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:58 -0400
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 23:53 -0400
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-17 05:55 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-17 01:43 -0700
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:07 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:58 -0400
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:52 -0400
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-20 00:04 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-11 06:37 -0400
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:30 -0700
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 00:58 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:46 -0700
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-15 06:59 -0400
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-15 12:25 -0700
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 07:47 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 17:42 +0000
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-12 00:16 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:34 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-13 00:11 +0000
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-13 04:06 -0400
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:37 -0700
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-13 21:25 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 15:26 -0700
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:37 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 01:34 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-15 05:43 +0000
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 11:23 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 00:23 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-16 03:29 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 04:59 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:10 -0700
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:42 -0400
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 06:01 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:12 -0400
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:35 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 15:53 -0400
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 13:34 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:41 -0400
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 20:31 -0700
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:04 -0400
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 17:44 -0700
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 08:36 +0000
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:43 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-14 10:36 -0400
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 23:55 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 18:04 -0700
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 12:33 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 02:56 +0000
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-27 20:25 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:37 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 16:55 -0700
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 08:41 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:44 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 07:33 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:30 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:08 -0400
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:53 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:22 -0400
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 22:00 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-05 22:34 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-08 22:05 +0800
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:42 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:48 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 21:18 -0400
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 11:19 +0100
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-11 10:00 -0300
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 18:31 +0100
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 19:35 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 20:56 +0100
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 20:21 +0000
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 22:44 +0100
                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 22:50 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:35 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 16:28 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 05:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 07:14 +0100
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 06:47 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:33 -0700
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 11:42 -0300
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-13 15:39 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 16:52 -0300
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 05:04 +0800
                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:16 -0300
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 00:11 +0000
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-13 17:16 -0700
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 10:27 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-13 20:35 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:04 -0300
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 23:58 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 09:27 +0100
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 23:35 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 18:35 +0000
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 21:14 +0100
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 21:01 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-22 23:48 +0000
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:20 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 09:12 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:23 -0400
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:26 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:19 +0000
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 16:25 +0000
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 23:30 -0400
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 16:52 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 17:53 -0400
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-24 09:46 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 17:43 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:39 -0700
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-12 23:23 +0100
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-10 15:05 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-08 22:00 +0800
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-08-08 14:14 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-09 20:34 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-08 14:45 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 02:18 +0800
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:47 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-11 11:38 -0400
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 18:59 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-15 21:12 -0400
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:20 -0300
                                                              Names for GenAI (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:30 +0100
                                                                Re: Names for GenAI ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-14 12:49 +0000
                                                                  Re: Names for GenAI Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 09:51 +0100
                                                                    Re: Names for GenAI Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-30 02:01 -0700
                                                                Re: Names for GenAI Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 13:56 -0300
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-29 16:16 -0400
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 13:46 -0700
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-30 17:15 -0400
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 04:07 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 12:26 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 16:06 -0400
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-11 15:03 -0700
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 12:12 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-13 15:55 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 20:37 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:18 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-29 22:06 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:15 -0400
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-30 21:05 -0400
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-31 08:01 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-04 22:08 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-05 11:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-05 23:46 +0530
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 19:41 -0400
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-08-10 14:44 +0200
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 12:31 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:21 -0400
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 07:17 +0800
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-07-31 12:21 -0300
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 01:48 +0800
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-05 13:13 -0300
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 21:48 +0000
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-08-06 09:05 +0200
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 11:33 -0700
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-06 15:49 -0300
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-06 20:23 -0400
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-07 09:36 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-07 11:58 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-08-08 19:02 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:59 -0400
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:59 -0400
                                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:56 +0000
                                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 17:38 -0400
                                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:57 +0000
                                                                      Reader macros (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-08-09 11:51 -0400
                                                                        Re: Reader macros Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:48 -0700
                                                              Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 05:33 +0800
                                                                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:11 -0700
                                                                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-10 14:57 +0000
                                                                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 13:10 -0700
                                                                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-10 17:41 -0300
                                                                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 23:53 +0000
                                                                    Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-11 14:29 +0000
                                                                    kqueues and port_create() (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:51 +0800
                                                                      Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:59 -0700
                                                                        Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 13:07 +0800
                                                                          Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 03:23 -0400
                                                                            Re: kqueues and port_create() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:50 +0000
                                                                              Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:33 +0800
                                                                            Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-12 02:22 -0700
                                                                              Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 20:55 -0400
                                                                            Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:37 +0800
                                                                        Re: kqueues and port_create() "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 12:59 -0700
                                                                    Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:26 +0100
                                                                  D.N.S. in Common Lisp (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:59 +0800
                                                                    Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-12 09:01 -0300
                                                                      Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:20 +0800
                                                                        Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-12 20:46 -0700
                                                                          Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 14:28 +0800
                                                                          Re: Making production games in Common Lisp bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:46 +0200
                                                                        Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 12:19 -0300
                                                                          Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:24 +0800
                                                                            Re: Making production games in Common Lisp ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-13 17:39 +0000
                                                                            Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 20:58 -0300
                                                                              Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:42 +0800
                                                                                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:46 +0100
                                                                                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:29 -0300
                                                                            Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-13 17:31 -0700
                                                                              Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:04 +0800
                                                                                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:52 -0700
                                                                            Re: Making production games in Common Lisp tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 10:27 +0000
                                                                              Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-15 01:19 +0800
                                                                        Re: Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-13 16:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:31 +0800
                                                                            Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:52 +0100
                                                                              Re: Making production games in Common Lisp tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:30 +0000
                                                                              Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-15 01:33 +0800
                                                                        Re: Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-15 19:44 -0400
                                                                          Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:06 -0300
                                                                          Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 02:28 +0800
                                                                            Re: Making production games in Common Lisp George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-21 15:23 -0400
                                                                              Databases with Common Lisp (was: Re: Making production games in Common Lisp) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 07:54 +0800
                                                                                Re: Databases with Common Lisp (was: Re: Making production games in Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-22 18:13 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Databases with Common Lisp steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-23 15:58 -0400
                                                                                  Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-08-23 23:08 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 10:24 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 19:29 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Dynamic scoping Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:26 +0800
                                                                              Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-23 21:03 +0530
                                                                                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 01:42 -0400
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-06 18:05 -0700
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 05:26 +0800
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-08 18:37 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-09 08:52 +0000
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-09 11:50 +0100
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 23:01 +0800
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 19:09 -0400
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-09 20:36 +0000
                                                                    What do you need from S.B.C.L? (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-10 05:32 +0800
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 19:02 -0400
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:56 +0100
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:30 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-12 16:31 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 17:07 +0000
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-12 17:20 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:28 +0800
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:54 -0700
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-08-11 20:20 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:51 -0700
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:35 -0400
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-18 21:34 -0700
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-21 02:12 -0400
                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-21 12:28 -0300
                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 09:17 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:52 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 03:27 -0700
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:16 +0000
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:03 -0700
                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:46 +0000
                                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:38 +0800
                                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:22 +0000
                                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 21:04 +0800
                                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 13:18 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 22:16 +0800
                                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 20:10 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:34 +0800
                                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 17:10 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:41 +0800
                                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-25 09:22 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-25 22:13 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-26 11:33 +0530
                                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-26 15:43 -0300
                                                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-26 18:23 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-27 14:43 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-27 13:01 -0700
                                                                                                  Continuations via macros (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-08-28 16:36 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Continuations via macros steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-04 22:01 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-29 03:06 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-04 22:15 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-16 14:56 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-16 13:42 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-17 20:03 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-09-17 00:12 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-17 19:36 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-17 21:19 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-20 07:18 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-09-20 16:31 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-21 04:40 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-22 05:30 -0400
                                                                                                            delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-22 11:24 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-22 19:03 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-09-24 19:48 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-24 20:53 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-24 21:13 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-24 21:21 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-27 08:02 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-29 17:03 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-27 20:39 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-28 17:29 -0300
                                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-26 19:06 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-27 07:57 -0400
                                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-08-24 13:19 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 20:37 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 15:18 -0400
                                                                      Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:51 +0000
                                                                        Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:08 -0700
                                                                          Re: Macros Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 10:01 +0100
                                                                          Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-08-15 12:58 +0000
                                                                            Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:27 -0300
                                                                            Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-26 00:56 -0700
                                                                              Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-26 19:55 -0300
                                                                          Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 11:08 +0000
                                                                            Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:41 +0800
                                                                              Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:31 +0000
                                                                                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 09:56 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 19:29 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-24 16:35 -0300
                                                                        Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:26 -0300
                                                                        Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-22 00:00 +0000
                                                                          Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 01:23 +0000
                                                                            Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-22 12:07 +0000
                                                                              Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 22:24 +0000
                                                                                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-22 23:08 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 23:22 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-23 00:23 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-25 00:13 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 10:17 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:45 +0800
                                                                                        Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:49 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 18:34 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-25 07:54 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-26 07:47 +0530
                                                                                              Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-26 02:58 +0000
                                                                                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 10:17 +0000
                                                                              Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-23 15:47 -0400
                                                                                Re: Macros Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-23 21:57 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Macros Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-23 22:21 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Macros Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:49 +0800
                                                                                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-23 22:37 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-23 23:47 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:51 +0800
                                                                                      Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 16:59 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 01:24 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-24 12:02 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 16:45 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-25 07:54 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-25 00:18 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-27 19:11 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 10:24 +0000
                                                                            Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:44 +0800
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 13:18 +0800
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-12 10:16 +0200
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-08-10 14:21 +0200
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-08-11 22:14 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:37 +0800
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-08 19:08 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 19:12 -0400
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-11 11:45 -0400
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 19:25 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-10 10:48 -0300
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 23:55 +0000
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 21:25 -0400
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-11 12:20 -0400
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-12 13:06 -0400
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 17:16 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 12:46 -0300
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-31 22:46 +0000
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 07:38 +0800
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:26 -0400
                                                              Making a C compiler in Rust (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:06 +0800
                                                                Re: Making a C compiler in Rust (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-21 11:34 +0100
                                                                  Re: Making a C compiler in Rust (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-21 14:13 +0300
                                                                    Re: Making a C compiler in Rust Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 02:23 +0800
                                                                Re: Making a C compiler in Rust Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-21 15:03 -0700
                                                                  Re: Making a C compiler in Rust Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 07:24 +0800
                                                                    Re: Making a C compiler in Rust Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-21 16:48 -0700
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-01 09:08 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-01 07:49 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-01 23:37 +0000
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 16:54 -0700
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-02 07:39 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:39 -0400
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 23:59 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 16:12 +0800
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:50 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:02 +0800
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 19:36 -0400
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 02:11 +0800
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:49 -0400
                                                                      Short wave radio, French (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:03 +0800
                                                                        Re: Short wave radio, French Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-24 10:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 20:07 +0800
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 17:13 -0700
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-04 21:46 -0400
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 13:08 -0700
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:48 -0400
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 20:34 -0700
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 06:00 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 00:52 -0700
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 07:55 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 13:35 -0700
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 22:25 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 17:37 -0700
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 03:53 +0000
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:26 -0400
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:50 +0000
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 23:52 -0400
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-01 05:24 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:47 -0400
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 02:54 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 23:11 -0400
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 07:31 +0000
                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 19:25 -0400
                                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:46 +0000
                                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 21:10 -0400
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:26 +0800
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 13:05 -0700
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 23:34 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 00:07 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:49 +0000
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-06 05:23 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:26 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-09 12:04 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-07-09 14:42 +0000
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 19:33 +0000
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-07-09 21:29 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-10 07:37 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-10 10:17 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-10 03:35 -0700
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 17:32 -0400
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:48 +0000
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-30 21:37 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-04 00:49 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-04 09:56 +0800
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 08:31 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 08:31 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 08:08 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-29 08:57 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 09:47 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-29 10:03 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 10:44 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-29 11:05 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:42 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-29 11:09 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:45 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:50 -0400
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:43 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 15:55 -0400
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:46 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:47 -0400
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:39 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-30 13:47 -0700
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-01 10:26 -0400
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:38 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-01 18:47 -0700
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-01 18:52 -0700
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-07-02 20:33 -0400
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:50 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:42 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 08:06 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 11:41 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-07-03 19:37 -0400
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 18:29 -0700
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-04 09:40 -0400
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-07-08 19:07 -0400
                                                    boxing all integers (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-29 17:52 -0300
                                                      Re: boxing all integers (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-08-30 06:43 +0000
                                                      Re: boxing all integers (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-30 17:24 -0400
                                                        Re: boxing all integers (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-31 03:11 -0300
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-27 13:48 -0700
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:34 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 02:58 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-15 09:51 -0400
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 00:23 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 03:14 -0700
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 03:02 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-26 21:47 -0700
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 23:18 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 16:36 -0700
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 04:06 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-02 22:20 -0700
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 03:58 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 07:36 +0100
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:29 -0700
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 23:29 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 16:41 -0700
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 09:17 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-29 18:41 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 04:06 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-04 07:46 +0100
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:31 -0400
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:52 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-16 10:23 -0400
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 21:34 -0700
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-17 15:02 -0400
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 04:14 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-18 12:44 -0400
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 10:09 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-29 10:55 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 08:06 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-09 13:26 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-09 23:04 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-30 02:45 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 13:14 -0700
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 02:30 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 11:46 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-18 15:34 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-19 07:01 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-19 11:41 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:38 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:42 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 13:58 -0700
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 22:19 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:37 -0400
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 20:42 -0700
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:08 -0400
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-29 08:27 +0100
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 00:42 -0700
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-06-29 14:35 +0100
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-29 23:27 -0400
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-01 16:21 -0400
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:21 -0400
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-01 08:57 +0100
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-07-01 14:29 +0530
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-01 12:56 -0700
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:17 -0400
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-30 21:32 +0000
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 07:55 +0000
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-05 22:14 +0100
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 23:55 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-06 08:04 +0100
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-06 08:00 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Niocláisín Cóilín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-04 18:35 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 05:46 +0800
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:57 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:22 -0700
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:55 +0000
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tpeplt <tpeplt@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 17:44 -0500
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-21 12:30 +0100
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-20 23:50 +0000
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-21 00:24 +0000
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-02-21 11:36 +0100
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-21 12:44 +0100
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-03-31 17:47 -0400
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-31 23:41 +0000
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tpeplt <tpeplt@gmail.com> - 2026-04-01 13:23 -0400
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 21:59 -0400
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Peri Didaskalou <pfd@torfree.net> - 2026-05-01 10:52 -0400
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Peri Didaskalou <pfd@torfree.net> - 2026-05-01 10:57 -0400
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Peri Didaskalou <pfd@torfree.net> - 2026-05-01 11:06 -0400
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-01 14:56 -0400
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Robert B. Carleton" <rbc@rbcarleton.net> - 2026-06-01 23:02 +0000
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 21:32 -0400
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-03 03:16 +0000
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? kotorifan <mindyourownbiz@noemail.fuck> - 2026-08-02 16:42 +0000
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-02 22:53 +0000
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anthk GM <anthk@disroot.org> - 2026-08-13 13:40 +0000
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 23:46 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 10:25 +0000
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-02 16:56 -0700
      Common Lisp Books (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-03 17:56 +0800
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-13 12:35 +0200
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:36 +0800
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 17:57 -0400
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:16 -0300
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 01:11 +0000
          Abstract Syntax Trees in CorelDROW! (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 11:28 +0800

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#61589 — Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?)

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-08-25 00:18 +0000
SubjectRe: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?)
Message-ID<116in0r$3abfo$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#61566
On Mon, 24 Aug 2026 12:02:33 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote:

> I consider continuations to be most distingushing feature of Scheme.

Continuations are cool! I was disappointed to discover they’re not
considered a normal part of Lisp.

I implemented my own little language which is closely modelled on
PostScript, but drops the antiquated graphics model and adds lexical
binding and continuations. It is true that the combination of an
explicit operand stack with continuations can get a bit mind-boggling
at times ...

<https://gitlab.com/ldo/gxscript>

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#61609 — Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?)

Fromsteve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
Date2026-08-27 19:11 -0400
SubjectRe: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?)
Message-ID<87se3zcg5j.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#61589
Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:

> On Mon, 24 Aug 2026 12:02:33 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote:
>
>> I consider continuations to be most distingushing feature of Scheme.

> Continuations are cool! I was disappointed to discover they’re not
> considered a normal part of Lisp.

I never could understand them.

> I implemented my own little language which is closely modelled on
> PostScript, but drops the antiquated graphics model and adds lexical
> binding and continuations. It is true that the combination of an
> explicit operand stack with continuations can get a bit mind-boggling
> at times ...


I think postscript can drive you bonkers alone, continuations dunno?

> <https://gitlab.com/ldo/gxscript>

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#61558 — Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?)

Fromtfb <tfb@work.it.out>
Date2026-08-24 10:24 +0000
SubjectRe: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?)
Message-ID<116h64r$2odgk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#61546
Waldek Hebisch <antispam@fricas.org> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I can get half way by using packages and shadowing real NIL.  But
> in such approach Common Lisp still considers empty list to be a symbol
> and prints it a symbol.  More radical approach as above means that
> I can no longer use standard Common Lisp functions so I need to add
> "buggy and slow implementation of half of the Common Lisp" to my
> program.

Never use shadow: define a package which is CL except NIL is its own symbol
(yes, 
i know this is opinion, but I have never seen a use fir shadiw which was
not just a botch).

There is considerable control over the printer (specifically the pretty
printer).  You probably can't *always* prevent () printing as CL:NIL but
you certainly can in the great majority of cases.

-- 
tfeb.org/computer/

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#61562 — Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?)

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-08-24 19:44 +0800
SubjectRe: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?)
Message-ID<68WiS.6$UB1.0@fx15.ams4>
In reply to#61530
On 22/08/2026 9:23 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 00:00:42 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> 
>> Let me mention some decision of the polibiuro that I do not like.
>>
>> 1) I am a Unix man and doing
>>
>> (compile-file "foo/bar.lisp" :output-file "baz/bar.fasl")
>>
>> I want output to live is file "baz/bar.fasl" relative to current
>> directory.  But polibiuro decided differently.  I solve this in
>> Blub way, that is writing wrapper function that converts
>> "baz/bar.fasl" to absolute path and then calls 'compile-file'.
> 
> Note how the defaults for input-file are filled in from
> *input-pathname-defaults*, but the same does not apply to output-file:
> <https://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/f_cmp_fi.htm>.
> 
> This is what I mean by Common Lisp being full of baggage for catering
> to non-POSIX operating systems which are all extinct now.


So, erm, what's wrong with the baggage that is stdin, and stdout in C?

> 
>> 2) Program that I am developing has a user language which is
>> implemented converting user input to Lisp and then using 'eval' to
>> evaluate it. That is good, but there is a catch: from users point of
>> view "T" is a perfectly good variable name. But polibiuro decided
>> that it is reserved. I could try to work around this using packages,
>> but this has serious drawback. So I solve this in Blub way, that is
>> convertion replaces "T" by a different name.
> 
> Or alternatively, you shouldn’t be equivalencing user-defined
> variables directly to Lisp variables.
> 
>> 3) I would like to so symbolic computation with arbitrary symbols.
>> For my purpose a symbol is always different from a list. But
>> polibiuro decided that "NIL" is identical to the empty list. I would
>> like "NIL" to be a constant symbol which when evaluated gives empty
>> list.
> 
> You want more than one empty-list object? I think that is
> traditionally treated as a “singleton” (not just in Lisp), which means
> the answer is “no”.

I'd hope not, but I cannot speak for anyone but myself.  I myself use
singleton objects when I implement programming languages.  It just so
happens I don't have a project in a finished enough state to share with
comp.lang.lisp.


Best wishes, and happy singleton objects!
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#61405

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-08-12 13:18 +0800
Message-ID<RmTeS.214701$la89.42778@fx06.ams4>
In reply to#61340
On 09/08/2026 4:52 PM, tfb wrote:
> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> I've found the Common Lisp macro system annoying enough that I rarely
>> use it.  I'm OK with functions most of the time, and CLOS the rest of
>> the time.  And only resort to macros when I can't do anything else in
>> the situation.
>>
> 
> It is so weird that people use a language whose defining feature is the
> incremental construction of languages and then say they don't use that
> feature.  I mean, I'm aware people do that, but it's just so fucking weird.
> 

No the subject of /weird/, I've also found it highly bizarre, if not
outright disturbing, that people don't use do ... while(); in C.  It's
an eminently useful structured programming pattern.

On the subject of Common Lisp, I find it more than disturbing when a
codebase lacks the basic usage of hash tables.

   https://www.sbcl.org/manual/#hash-table-extensions


Happy coding disturbing things!
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#61408

Frombixbox <noreply@example.invalid>
Date2026-08-12 10:16 +0200
Message-ID<115ha5n$kncd$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#61405
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes:

> On 09/08/2026 4:52 PM, tfb wrote:
>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> wrote:
> No the subject of /weird/, I've also found it highly bizarre, if not
> outright disturbing, that people don't use do ... while(); in C.  It's
> an eminently useful structured programming pattern.

Finally, every time that I open a PR with that pattern I get questioned
and frown. It's such disturbing.

>
> On the subject of Common Lisp, I find it more than disturbing when a
> codebase lacks the basic usage of hash tables.
>
>   https://www.sbcl.org/manual/#hash-table-extensions

unless you find some code base that use hash table all over the place.
:)

bix

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#61362

FromAndreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de>
Date2026-08-10 14:21 +0200
Message-ID<875x1i414d.fsf@eder.anydns.info>
In reply to#61336
On So 09 Aug 2026 at 05:26, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:

> On 06/08/2026 12:13 AM, Anton Antimo wrote:
>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes:
>> 
>>> On 31/07/2026 11:21 PM, Anton Antimo wrote:
>>>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes:
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>>>> Sadly we've also ended up with programmers who think the machines
>>>>>>> they program for are giant PDP-11s, and as a result machines which
>>>>>>> spend a huge amount of effort pretending to be giant PDP-11s.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's all a tragedy.
>>>>>
>>>>> The tragedy is not using Common Lisp for everything.
>>>>
>>>> I loved this bit and I have a feeling you're correct.  My little
>>>> experience with Common Lisp is that it allows me to write the equivalent
>>>> fast code that I'd write in C, where speed matters.  In other words, I
>>>> seem to gain nothing (other than more work) by writing typical
>>>> applications in C.
>>>
>>> The fun is in writing atypical applications, and then finding yourself
>>> looking at the disassembly in SBCL.
>> I actually do that every now and then just to learn a bit more about
>> assembly, something I find so cool about SBCL (and lacking in other
>> close-to-the-language tools).
>> Speaking of which, I decided to try Common Lisp about 2 years ago,
>> having struggled to deal with Racket for over ten years, nevertheless
>> considering Racket the most elegant Lisp around ever since its birth.
>> And, boy, did I never look back.
>> (*) A critique of Racket
>> To be fair, a big part of my struggle is the thick layer of Racket on
>> top of POSIX.  For instance, try to locate the equivalent select-call on
>> it.  It's so hard to recognize exactly how your Racket maps to the lower
>> level.  I understand that may a strong point of Racket's design, but it
>> certainly hits my weakness.
>> How about the macro system?  So perfect, yet so annoying.  One thing I
>> love about Common Lisp is precisely macro's (lack of) hygiene.  I'm
>> totally fine with complete guarantee.  Anaphoric macros are so useful.
>> (No idea how to implement them in Racket---impossible?)
>
> I've found the Common Lisp macro system annoying enough that I rarely
> use it.  I'm OK with functions most of the time, and CLOS the rest of
> the time.  And only resort to macros when I can't do anything else in
> the situation.

That us exactly where it should be used - when there is no other way.

'Andreas

-- 
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#61392

FromKaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com>
Date2026-08-11 22:14 +0000
Message-ID<20260811132059.46@kylheku.com>
In reply to#61362
On 2026-08-10, Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote:
> On So 09 Aug 2026 at 05:26, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>> I've found the Common Lisp macro system annoying enough that I rarely
>> use it.  I'm OK with functions most of the time, and CLOS the rest of
>> the time.  And only resort to macros when I can't do anything else in
>> the situation.
>
> That us exactly where it should be used - when there is no other way.

I don't agree, because that amounts to macros never being used.

It's never the case that there is no other way, because in place of
any macro, you can write the expansion by hand.

Macros should be used when it's better to use them than not.
It makes the code easier to write, read, maintain.
That's it.

When you use CLOS and functions, you are using macros; your program
is free of macro definitions because you are using ones that
were provided like defclass and defmethod.

Macros allowed that CLOS stuff to be developd more like a software
project---people experimenting with and iterating on implementations
of an object system---rather than a committee; though of course
there was that too.


-- 
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#61461

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-08-14 14:37 +0800
Message-ID<4JyfS.425$BAea.290@fx01.ams4>
In reply to#61392
On 12/08/2026 6:14 AM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> On 2026-08-10, Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote:
>> On So 09 Aug 2026 at 05:26, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>>> I've found the Common Lisp macro system annoying enough that I rarely
>>> use it.  I'm OK with functions most of the time, and CLOS the rest of
>>> the time.  And only resort to macros when I can't do anything else in
>>> the situation.
>>
>> That us exactly where it should be used - when there is no other way.
> 
> I don't agree, because that amounts to macros never being used.

Thank you for reading my mind.  As it happens, you got it wrong, and I
suggest you take another class in telepathy.  At minimum, your license
should be revoked, and you yourself subjected to a brutal interrogation
by the /inquisition/ for misusing telepathy.  I'm sure Eisenhorn is on
the case.

Anyway, what I meant to be getting at, is there are /patterns/ in Lisp
that cannot be done with mere functions.  I forgot exactly which pattern
I last used in anger that was impossible to make a function, so I'll let
you divine several examples.  Have fun.

> 
> It's never the case that there is no other way, because in place of
> any macro, you can write the expansion by hand.

They can also be done by the text editor.  XEmacs' skeletons come to
mind.


Please enjoy rewriting all your macros as skeletons, it should be a good
exercise for you!
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#61339

FromGeorge Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net>
Date2026-08-08 19:08 -0400
Message-ID<g1cf7l9sd0efdvgb0lu1p78kj9jdpi5u3q@4ax.com>
In reply to#61300
On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 13:13:42 -0300, Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org>
wrote:


>(*) A critique of Racket
>
>To be fair, a big part of my struggle is the thick layer of Racket on
>top of POSIX.  For instance, try to locate the equivalent select-call on
>it.  It's so hard to recognize exactly how your Racket maps to the lower
>level.  I understand that may a strong point of Racket's design, but it
>certainly hits my weakness.

To be fair, you need to understand that Racket is multi-platform,
needs to run on Windows, and Windows [for the most part] does not
implement POSIX functions.  

Racket's network [and filesystem, and ... ] implementation tries to
abstract over equivalent behaviors on all the target platforms.


>How about the macro system?  So perfect, yet so annoying.  One thing I
>love about Common Lisp is precisely macro's (lack of) hygiene.  I'm
>totally fine with complete guarantee.  Anaphoric macros are so useful.
>(No idea how to implement them in Racket---impossible?)

Racket has its roots in Scheme.  Scheme is defined in terms of source
/text/ rather than the compiler's AST.  So there is no real equivalent
of Lisp's AST macros.

That said, Racket does support Lisp-like unhygienic macros with
'define-macro'. Apologies for the ridiculous length of the URL.

https://docs.racket-lang.org/compatibility/defmacro.html#%28form._%28%28lib._compatibility%2Fdefmacro..rkt%29._define-macro%29%29

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#61354

Fromsteve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
Date2026-08-09 19:12 -0400
Message-ID<878q6evqfi.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#61339
George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> writes:

> To be fair, you need to understand that Racket is multi-platform,
> needs to run on Windows, and Windows [for the most part] does not
> implement POSIX functions.  

Can you use CYGwin? it is a bit ugly but it is POSIX. Microsoft should
be able to introduce a POSIX level (xyz) rather easily; they just don't
do that. It's like the Xterminal.

dunno, I cannot use windows 11; it needs a credit card. God bless the
Free Software Project!

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#61381

FromGeorge Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net>
Date2026-08-11 11:45 -0400
Message-ID<iigm7l9tud3gaph7ep5h66lt74dgfdv6ke@4ax.com>
In reply to#61354
On Sun, 09 Aug 2026 19:12:49 -0400, steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
wrote:

>George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> writes:
>
>> To be fair, you need to understand that Racket is multi-platform,
>> needs to run on Windows, and Windows [for the most part] does not
>> implement POSIX functions.  
>
>Can you use CYGwin? it is a bit ugly but it is POSIX. Microsoft should
>be able to introduce a POSIX level (xyz) rather easily; they just don't
>do that. It's like the Xterminal.

I'm not aware that Racket can run over Cygwin. If it can, I would bet
that GUI/graphical programs won't work.

Certainly you can create an interface to Cygwin and use it directly.
[You can do this with pretty much any library.]


>dunno, I cannot use windows 11; it needs a credit card. God bless the
>Free Software Project!

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#61450

Fromsteve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
Date2026-08-13 19:25 -0400
Message-ID<87o6f5txgz.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#61381
George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> writes:

> On Sun, 09 Aug 2026 19:12:49 -0400, steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>

> I'm not aware that Racket can run over Cygwin. If it can, I would bet
> that GUI/graphical programs won't work.
>
> Certainly you can create an interface to Cygwin and use it directly.
> [You can do this with pretty much any library.]


Yeah, i figured that no graphics would be their thing. I do remeber the
cygwin people talking about make an X Window type interface. dunno how
they plan to do that when the software changes ever other day that it rains.

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#61364

FromAnton Antimo <anton@safunu.org>
Date2026-08-10 10:48 -0300
Message-ID<87h5l2ytkv.fsf@safunu.org>
In reply to#61339
George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> writes:

> On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 13:13:42 -0300, Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org>
> wrote:
>
>
>>(*) A critique of Racket
>>
>>To be fair, a big part of my struggle is the thick layer of Racket on
>>top of POSIX.  For instance, try to locate the equivalent select-call
>>on it.  It's so hard to recognize exactly how your Racket maps to the
>>lower level.  I understand that may a strong point of Racket's design,
>>but it certainly hits my weakness.
>
> To be fair, you need to understand that Racket is multi-platform,
> needs to run on Windows, and Windows [for the most part] does not
> implement POSIX functions.
>
> Racket's network [and filesystem, and ... ] implementation tries to
> abstract over equivalent behaviors on all the target platforms.

I understand that.  I shouldn't have written "a critique of Racket" as
my post is really personal.  It's my weakness.  I think in terms of
POSIX---likely because I started there.  I got to know Racket after
giving myself a year of C and UNIX.  Now, in my defense, I think my
situation would be worse if I had started out in Racket and then later
discovered C and UNIX, say.  Call me stupid or whatever, but I'm happy
where I am.

And by the way some of my complains can also be exactly applied to
Common Lisp.  For instance, I think Common Lisp doesn't have the
semantics of POSIX's read(2).  I suppose there are libraries out there
that might go lower level (than Common Lisp's) and then give you an
abstraction that mimics read(2), but that's beside the point.

In the end I think we need to deal with the likely-fact that we can't
really write every program as something 100% portable (and not to be
totally slow at the same time, say).

But anyway I totally understand your point here.  Thanks for sharing.

>>How about the macro system?  So perfect, yet so annoying.  One thing I
>>love about Common Lisp is precisely macro's (lack of) hygiene.  I'm
>>totally fine with complete guarantee.  Anaphoric macros are so useful.
>>(No idea how to implement them in Racket---impossible?)
>
> Racket has its roots in Scheme.  Scheme is defined in terms of source
> /text/ rather than the compiler's AST.  So there is no real equivalent
> of Lisp's AST macros.

Interesting. I bet this has been one my major difficulties because I had
never quite understood that and I probably still don't.  I had realized
I always needed to manipulate the syntax objects as opposed to sexps and
it was always confusing to insert a new identifier into the generating
code and so on.  The blame is of course always on me, but
yeah---difficult-to-understand stuff.  Common Lisp is a lot simpler, I
feel.  (Let me also say that I was never able to understand Scheme
compilers' error messages, Racket included.)

Is there an article out there that elaborate your paragraph here?  I'd
like to learn more about these differences.  I suppose the Scheme people
would have very strong arguments to go their way.

> That said, Racket does support Lisp-like unhygienic macros with
> 'define-macro'. Apologies for the ridiculous length of the URL.
>
> https://docs.racket-lang.org/compatibility/defmacro.html#%28form._%28%28lib._compatibility%2Fdefmacro..rkt%29._define-macro%29%29

We need a project that can promise to shorten and maintain URLs for 50
years, say.  (I say fifty so a single hacker can keep it running during
his lifetime.  After 50 years, a young hacker takes it on for another
50.)  It'a pity that Google Inc. let us down with goo.gl.

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#61371

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-08-10 23:55 +0000
Message-ID<115dodo$3i42e$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#61364
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 10:48:48 -0300, Anton Antimo wrote:

> I think in terms of POSIX---likely because I started there.

Nothing wrong with that. I agree, and I didn’t even start there.

The general rule nowadays is: beware of language-specific APIs that
try to abstract away too much of POSIX.

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#61374

Fromsteve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
Date2026-08-10 21:25 -0400
Message-ID<87bjb9a1oj.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#61364
Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> writes:


> And by the way some of my complains can also be exactly applied to
> Common Lisp.  For instance, I think Common Lisp doesn't have the
> semantics of POSIX's read(2).  I suppose there are libraries out there
> that might go lower level (than Common Lisp's) and then give you an
> abstraction that mimics read(2), but that's beside the point.

In common lisp your can link to C; like visual basic 6. SBCL has
sb-posix:write already built in. it is the POSIX one, not the cl:write.

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#61382

FromGeorge Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net>
Date2026-08-11 12:20 -0400
Message-ID<uvgm7lllagfihhjg6tol21h9ca40omtpbr@4ax.com>
In reply to#61364
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 10:48:48 -0300, Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org>
wrote:

>George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 13:13:42 -0300, Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>How about the [Racket] macro system?  So perfect, yet so annoying.
>>>One thing I love about Common Lisp is precisely macro's (lack of) 
>>>hygiene.  I'm totally fine with complete guarantee.  Anaphoric 
>>>macros are so useful. (No idea how to implement them in Racket
>>>---impossible?)
>>
>> Racket has its roots in Scheme.  Scheme is defined in terms of source
>> /text/ rather than the compiler's AST.  So there is no real equivalent
>> of Lisp's AST macros.
>
>Interesting. I bet this has been one my major difficulties because I had
>never quite understood that and I probably still don't.  I had realized
>I always needed to manipulate the syntax objects as opposed to sexps and
>it was always confusing to insert a new identifier into the generating
>code and so on.  The blame is of course always on me, but
>yeah---difficult-to-understand stuff.  Common Lisp is a lot simpler, I
>feel.  (Let me also say that I was never able to understand Scheme
>compilers' error messages, Racket included.)
>
>Is there an article out there that elaborate your paragraph here?  I'd
>like to learn more about these differences.  I suppose the Scheme people
>would have very strong arguments to go their way.


It is implicit in the semantics sections of the R_RS documents.  Might
be explicit in some of them, I don't recall - the earlier documents
tended to contain more detail about intent, but I haven't (re)read any
of them in ages.  I'm sure I've seen it explicitly stated somewhere,
but it may have been in some book.
[One of my college professors was Mitchell Wand who co-wrote
"Essentials of Programming Languages" and served on the Scheme
defining committee for many years.]

TLDR; Scheme's formal semantics are based on the syntax of forms in
the /external/ representation - ie. the source text - not on any
compiler's internal representation.


Also Racket itself technically is not a Scheme, although it evolved
from (PLT) Scheme, has many similarities to Scheme, and easily can
emulate Scheme.  The current distribution includes an interworking
emulation of R6RS.


>> That said, Racket does support Lisp-like unhygienic macros with
>> 'define-macro'. Apologies for the ridiculous length of the URL.
>>
>> https://docs.racket-lang.org/compatibility/defmacro.html#%28form._%28%28lib._compatibility%2Fdefmacro..rkt%29._define-macro%29%29
>
>We need a project that can promise to shorten and maintain URLs for 50
>years, say.  (I say fifty so a single hacker can keep it running during
>his lifetime.  After 50 years, a young hacker takes it on for another
>50.)  It'a pity that Google Inc. let us down with goo.gl.

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#61421

FromGeorge Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net>
Date2026-08-12 13:06 -0400
Message-ID<he9p7l91l3vm7u5h30829e7v978ffaqron@4ax.com>
In reply to#61382
ADDENDUM

On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 12:20:00 -0400, George Neuner
<gneuner2@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 10:48:48 -0300, Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org>
>wrote:
>
>>George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 13:13:42 -0300, Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>How about the [Racket] macro system?  So perfect, yet so annoying.
>>>>One thing I love about Common Lisp is precisely macro's (lack of) 
>>>>hygiene.  I'm totally fine with complete guarantee.  Anaphoric 
>>>>macros are so useful. (No idea how to implement them in Racket
>>>>---impossible?)
>>>
>>> Racket has its roots in Scheme.  Scheme is defined in terms of source
>>> /text/ rather than the compiler's AST.  So there is no real equivalent
>>> of Lisp's AST macros.
>> 
>> :
>>Is there an article out there that elaborate your paragraph here?  I'd
>>like to learn more about these differences.  I suppose the Scheme people
>>would have very strong arguments to go their way.
>
> : 
>
>It is implicit in the semantics sections of the R_RS documents.  Might
>be explicit in some of them, I don't recall - the earlier documents
>tended to contain more detail about intent, but I haven't (re)read any
>of them in ages.  I'm sure I've seen it explicitly stated somewhere,
>but it may have been in some book.
>[One of my college professors was Mitchell Wand who co-wrote
>"Essentials of Programming Languages" and served on the Scheme
>defining committee for many years.]
>
>TLDR; Scheme's formal semantics are based on the syntax of forms in
>the /external/ representation - ie. the source text - not on any
>compiler's internal representation.

R6RS has in Appendix (A) a discussion of the formal semantics in which
they do state that Scheme's denotation semantics are based on
/strings/.  Unfortunately the statement is offhand and the discussion
itself is non-normative.

So far I haven't been able to find it stated explicitly in any
normative (authoritative) source, but I don't have access to the ISO
or IEEE standard documents.

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#61423

Fromtfb <tfb@work.it.out>
Date2026-08-12 17:16 +0000
Message-ID<115i9og$1076k$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#61421
George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> wrote:

> R6RS has in Appendix (A) a discussion of the formal semantics in which
> they do state that Scheme's denotation semantics are based on
> /strings/.  Unfortunately the statement is offhand and the discussion
> itself is non-normative.
> 
 I think it's pretty clear.  If you look at the formal syntax there is, for
instance a definition of a list (it's one of the options for <datum>, but a
procedure call is (<operator> <operand>*): it's not defined in terms of a
list at all.


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#61440

FromAnton Antimo <anton@safunu.org>
Date2026-08-13 12:46 -0300
Message-ID<87wltuhvkf.fsf@safunu.org>
In reply to#61421
George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> writes:

> ADDENDUM
>
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 12:20:00 -0400, George Neuner
> <gneuner2@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 10:48:48 -0300, Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 13:13:42 -0300, Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>How about the [Racket] macro system?  So perfect, yet so annoying.
>>>>>One thing I love about Common Lisp is precisely macro's (lack of) 
>>>>>hygiene.  I'm totally fine with complete guarantee.  Anaphoric 
>>>>>macros are so useful. (No idea how to implement them in Racket
>>>>>---impossible?)
>>>>
>>>> Racket has its roots in Scheme.  Scheme is defined in terms of source
>>>> /text/ rather than the compiler's AST.  So there is no real equivalent
>>>> of Lisp's AST macros.
>>> 
>>> :
>>>Is there an article out there that elaborate your paragraph here?  I'd
>>>like to learn more about these differences.  I suppose the Scheme people
>>>would have very strong arguments to go their way.
>>
>> : 
>>
>>It is implicit in the semantics sections of the R_RS documents.  Might
>>be explicit in some of them, I don't recall - the earlier documents
>>tended to contain more detail about intent, but I haven't (re)read any
>>of them in ages.  I'm sure I've seen it explicitly stated somewhere,
>>but it may have been in some book.
>>[One of my college professors was Mitchell Wand who co-wrote
>>"Essentials of Programming Languages" and served on the Scheme
>>defining committee for many years.]
>>
>>TLDR; Scheme's formal semantics are based on the syntax of forms in
>>the /external/ representation - ie. the source text - not on any
>>compiler's internal representation.
>
> R6RS has in Appendix (A) a discussion of the formal semantics in which
> they do state that Scheme's denotation semantics are based on
> /strings/.  Unfortunately the statement is offhand and the discussion
> itself is non-normative.
>
> So far I haven't been able to find it stated explicitly in any
> normative (authoritative) source, but I don't have access to the ISO
> or IEEE standard documents.

That's okay---you've already enlightened me enough here, which I
appreciate.

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