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| Started by | Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> |
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| First post | 2026-02-20 22:53 +0100 |
| Last post | 2026-08-22 11:28 +0800 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 762 — 42 participants |
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Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-20 22:53 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2026-02-20 22:00 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-21 12:25 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-02-21 10:24 -0500
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-21 21:30 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-22 01:08 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-22 04:59 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-02-22 10:59 +0530
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-22 21:48 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 12:43 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 12:41 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 20:02 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 00:23 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:28 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:32 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:27 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 17:33 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:16 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:53 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Axel Reichert <mail@axel-reichert.de> - 2026-06-09 12:07 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:14 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 00:01 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-17 05:53 +0000
[OT] Disappearing documentation (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 09:06 +0100
Re: [OT] Disappearing documentation steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:05 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:01 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-20 00:02 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 17:22 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:59 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 00:55 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:43 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:45 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:35 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anthk GM <anthk@disroot.org> - 2026-08-15 22:29 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-15 23:38 +0000
Buy the official standard from A.N.S.I. (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-16 11:25 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 12:37 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:33 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 00:22 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-09 01:22 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:17 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:50 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:40 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 00:26 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 22:10 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 21:37 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Joerg Mertens <joerg-mertens@t-online.de> - 2026-06-17 12:04 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-17 11:17 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 13:57 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:06 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-18 09:17 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-18 13:32 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-18 14:21 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-19 08:12 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-19 04:27 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 21:24 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-20 13:00 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 07:55 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-18 12:53 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-18 21:28 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-19 15:08 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-19 22:32 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-20 13:56 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-21 14:57 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-22 09:11 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-24 22:14 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-25 11:20 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:47 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:21 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-29 19:00 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:34 +0000
Python blanks (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-02 08:39 +0100
Re: Python blanks ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-02 09:24 +0000
Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 21:10 +0000
Re: Python blanks Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:34 +0100
Re: Python blanks George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-03 02:10 -0400
Re: Python blanks Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 07:21 +0100
Re: Python blanks Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 01:47 -0700
Re: Python blanks Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-03 17:42 -0400
Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 04:15 +0000
Re: Python blanks yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2026-07-03 12:51 +0042
Re: Python blanks Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 11:34 -0700
Re: Python blanks Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-07-04 04:03 +0000
Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 04:18 +0000
Re: Python blanks tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 11:34 +0000
Re: Python blanks ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-09 13:15 +0000
Re: Python blanks tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 13:24 +0000
Re: Python blanks antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-07-09 14:01 +0000
Re: Python blanks tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 14:39 +0000
Re: Python blanks antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-07-09 21:03 +0000
Re: Python blanks tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 21:23 +0000
Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-09 23:09 +0000
Re: Python blanks steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 23:05 -0400
Re: Python blanks George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-06 09:57 -0400
Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-09 23:08 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-02 13:41 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 05:45 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-03 10:12 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 18:43 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 23:28 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 17:22 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:47 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 23:24 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-04 21:48 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 23:56 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:47 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-20 13:43 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-20 22:28 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-22 09:16 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 23:38 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-26 00:43 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 02:52 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:06 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-11 05:27 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 22:12 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:24 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-11 05:57 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-11 21:07 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 13:06 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-13 00:13 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 07:25 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-13 08:25 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 08:46 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 08:52 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:57 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-15 10:10 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:56 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 11:46 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:03 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-18 07:52 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 23:35 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 20:56 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-13 00:55 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 07:43 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 21:37 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:09 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:02 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 10:12 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 22:54 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-17 00:07 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 08:33 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:48 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:28 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:42 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 23:32 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-09 09:36 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:06 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-10 08:43 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 00:22 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-11 08:57 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-12 00:16 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 21:42 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 01:15 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-15 05:42 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 11:19 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 00:18 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-16 03:27 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 01:25 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 10:13 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-18 13:57 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:11 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-18 02:30 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 08:21 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-18 09:32 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 08:24 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 09:47 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:26 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-02 18:22 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 04:04 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-03 02:16 -0400
[OT] Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 07:29 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-03 10:18 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 03:51 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-04 09:23 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:46 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 21:44 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 05:17 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 08:43 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-06 05:13 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:03 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 12:31 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 14:55 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 08:42 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-05 11:02 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-06 01:10 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-06 05:21 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-07 11:52 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-07-08 01:46 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-08 03:04 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-07 19:30 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-07 19:34 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:03 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 05:44 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 03:21 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 23:22 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:15 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 16:04 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 12:12 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-13 14:59 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-18 14:15 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 08:23 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 10:02 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:58 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 23:53 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-17 05:55 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-17 01:43 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:07 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:58 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:52 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-20 00:04 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-11 06:37 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:30 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 00:58 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:46 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-15 06:59 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-15 12:25 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 07:47 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 17:42 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-12 00:16 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:34 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-13 00:11 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-13 04:06 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:37 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-13 21:25 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 15:26 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:37 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 01:34 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-15 05:43 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 11:23 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 00:23 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-16 03:29 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 04:59 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:10 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:42 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 06:01 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:12 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:35 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 15:53 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 13:34 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:41 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 20:31 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:04 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 17:44 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 08:36 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:43 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-14 10:36 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 23:55 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 18:04 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 12:33 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 02:56 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-27 20:25 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:37 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 16:55 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 08:41 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:44 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 07:33 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:30 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:08 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:53 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:22 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 22:00 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-05 22:34 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-08 22:05 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:42 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:48 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 21:18 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 11:19 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-11 10:00 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 18:31 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 19:35 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 20:56 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 20:21 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 22:44 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 22:50 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:35 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 16:28 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 05:03 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 07:14 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 06:47 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:33 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 11:42 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-13 15:39 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 16:52 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 05:04 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:16 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 00:11 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-13 17:16 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 10:27 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-13 20:35 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:04 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 23:58 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 09:27 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 23:35 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 18:35 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 21:14 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 21:01 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-22 23:48 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:20 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 09:12 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:23 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:26 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:19 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 16:25 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 23:30 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 16:52 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 17:53 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-24 09:46 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 17:43 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:39 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-12 23:23 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-10 15:05 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-08 22:00 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-08-08 14:14 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-09 20:34 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-08 14:45 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 02:18 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:47 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-11 11:38 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 18:59 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-15 21:12 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:20 -0300
Names for GenAI (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:30 +0100
Re: Names for GenAI ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-14 12:49 +0000
Re: Names for GenAI Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 09:51 +0100
Re: Names for GenAI Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-30 02:01 -0700
Re: Names for GenAI Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 13:56 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-29 16:16 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 13:46 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-30 17:15 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 04:07 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 12:26 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 16:06 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-11 15:03 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 12:12 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-13 15:55 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 20:37 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:18 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-29 22:06 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:15 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-30 21:05 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-31 08:01 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-04 22:08 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-05 11:29 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-05 23:46 +0530
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 19:41 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-08-10 14:44 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 12:31 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:21 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 07:17 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-07-31 12:21 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 01:48 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-05 13:13 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 21:48 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-08-06 09:05 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 11:33 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-06 15:49 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-06 20:23 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-07 09:36 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-07 11:58 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-08-08 19:02 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:59 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:59 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:56 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 17:38 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:57 +0000
Reader macros (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-08-09 11:51 -0400
Re: Reader macros Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:48 -0700
Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 05:33 +0800
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:11 -0700
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-10 14:57 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 13:10 -0700
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-10 17:41 -0300
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 23:53 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-11 14:29 +0000
kqueues and port_create() (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:51 +0800
Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:59 -0700
Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 13:07 +0800
Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 03:23 -0400
Re: kqueues and port_create() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:50 +0000
Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:33 +0800
Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-12 02:22 -0700
Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 20:55 -0400
Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:37 +0800
Re: kqueues and port_create() "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 12:59 -0700
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:26 +0100
D.N.S. in Common Lisp (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:59 +0800
Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-12 09:01 -0300
Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:20 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-12 20:46 -0700
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 14:28 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:46 +0200
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 12:19 -0300
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:24 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-13 17:39 +0000
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 20:58 -0300
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:42 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:46 +0100
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:29 -0300
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-13 17:31 -0700
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:04 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:52 -0700
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 10:27 +0000
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-15 01:19 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-13 16:14 +0000
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:31 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:52 +0100
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:30 +0000
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-15 01:33 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-15 19:44 -0400
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:06 -0300
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 02:28 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-21 15:23 -0400
Databases with Common Lisp (was: Re: Making production games in Common Lisp) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 07:54 +0800
Re: Databases with Common Lisp (was: Re: Making production games in Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-22 18:13 -0400
Re: Databases with Common Lisp steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-23 15:58 -0400
Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-08-23 23:08 -0400
Re: Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 10:24 -0400
Re: Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 19:29 +0000
Re: Dynamic scoping Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:26 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-23 21:03 +0530
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 01:42 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-06 18:05 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 05:26 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-08 18:37 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-09 08:52 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-09 11:50 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 23:01 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 19:09 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-09 20:36 +0000
What do you need from S.B.C.L? (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-10 05:32 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 19:02 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:56 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:30 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-12 16:31 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 17:07 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-12 17:20 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:28 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:54 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-08-11 20:20 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:51 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:35 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-18 21:34 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-21 02:12 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-21 12:28 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 09:17 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:52 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 03:27 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:16 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:03 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:46 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:38 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:22 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 21:04 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 13:18 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 22:16 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 20:10 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:34 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 17:10 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:41 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-25 09:22 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-25 22:13 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-26 11:33 +0530
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-26 15:43 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-26 18:23 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-27 14:43 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-27 13:01 -0700
Continuations via macros (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-08-28 16:36 -0400
Re: Continuations via macros steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-04 22:01 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-29 03:06 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-04 22:15 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-16 14:56 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-16 13:42 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-17 20:03 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-09-17 00:12 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-17 19:36 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-17 21:19 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-20 07:18 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-09-20 16:31 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-21 04:40 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-22 05:30 -0400
delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-22 11:24 -0400
Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-22 19:03 +0000
Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-09-24 19:48 +0000
Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-24 20:53 +0000
Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-24 21:13 +0000
Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-24 21:21 +0000
Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-27 08:02 -0400
Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-29 17:03 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-27 20:39 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-28 17:29 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-26 19:06 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-27 07:57 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-08-24 13:19 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 20:37 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 15:18 -0400
Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:51 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:08 -0700
Re: Macros Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 10:01 +0100
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-08-15 12:58 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:27 -0300
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-26 00:56 -0700
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-26 19:55 -0300
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 11:08 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:41 +0800
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:31 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 09:56 -0400
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 19:29 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-24 16:35 -0300
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:26 -0300
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-22 00:00 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 01:23 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-22 12:07 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 22:24 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-22 23:08 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 23:22 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-23 00:23 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-25 00:13 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 10:17 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:45 +0800
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:49 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 18:34 -0400
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-25 07:54 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-26 07:47 +0530
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-26 02:58 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 10:17 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-23 15:47 -0400
Re: Macros Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-23 21:57 +0100
Re: Macros Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-23 22:21 +0000
Re: Macros Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:49 +0800
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-23 22:37 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-23 23:47 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:51 +0800
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 16:59 -0700
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 01:24 -0700
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-24 12:02 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 16:45 -0700
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-25 07:54 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-25 00:18 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-27 19:11 -0400
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 10:24 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:44 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 13:18 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-12 10:16 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-08-10 14:21 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-08-11 22:14 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:37 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-08 19:08 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 19:12 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-11 11:45 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 19:25 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-10 10:48 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 23:55 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 21:25 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-11 12:20 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-12 13:06 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 17:16 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 12:46 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-31 22:46 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 07:38 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:26 -0400
Making a C compiler in Rust (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:06 +0800
Re: Making a C compiler in Rust (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-21 11:34 +0100
Re: Making a C compiler in Rust (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-21 14:13 +0300
Re: Making a C compiler in Rust Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 02:23 +0800
Re: Making a C compiler in Rust Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-21 15:03 -0700
Re: Making a C compiler in Rust Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 07:24 +0800
Re: Making a C compiler in Rust Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-21 16:48 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-01 09:08 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-01 07:49 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-01 23:37 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 16:54 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-02 07:39 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:39 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 23:59 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 16:12 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:50 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:02 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 19:36 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 02:11 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:49 -0400
Short wave radio, French (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:03 +0800
Re: Short wave radio, French Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-24 10:15 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 20:07 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 17:13 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-04 21:46 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 13:08 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:48 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 20:34 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 06:00 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 00:52 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 07:55 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 13:35 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 22:25 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 17:37 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 03:53 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:26 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:50 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 23:52 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-01 05:24 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:47 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 02:54 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 23:11 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 07:31 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 19:25 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:46 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 21:10 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:26 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 13:05 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 23:34 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 00:07 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:49 +0000
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Common Lisp Books (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-03 17:56 +0800
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-08-13 11:33 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: kqueues and port_create() |
| Message-ID | <4WafS.3$2G1.1@fx09.ams4> |
| In reply to | #61407 |
On 12/08/2026 3:50 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 03:23:45 -0400, Alan Bawden wrote: > >> I _think_ what Paul was asking was is it possible to get notified >> when a specific file in the file system is opened. If that's what >> he's asking, then the answer is: yes kqueue/kevent can do that. You >> open the file in question using O_PATH, and then create a kevent >> using that descriptor with filter EVFILT_VNODE and event NOTE_OPEN. > > There is no POSIX API for this. Linux has inotify(7) for watching > particular files, and certain kinds of directory operations, and > fanotify(7) for more general watching of entire > directories/filesystems. > > <https://manpages.debian.org/inotify(7)> > <https://manpages.debian.org/fanotify(7)> Lawrence, we don't care about Posix here in comp.lang.lisp, nor do we care about what the Linux kernel people think is a good idea. They al- most never have good ideas anyway. So stop trying to force Posix discussion into kqueues and Illumos ports, unless you're also working for the Open Group, and trying to get some things standardized. -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
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| From | Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 02:22 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: kqueues and port_create() |
| Message-ID | <87y0ebpua6.fsf@nightsong.com> |
| In reply to | #61406 |
Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> writes: > I _think_ what Paul was asking was is it possible to get notified when a > specific file in the file system is opened. No in linux that's called inotify. io_uring is basically an alternative system call interface that's relatively new, and maybe not complete. You send off a request to do the system call, and get back a queued response when the call is completed, unlike traditional syscalls that appear to be synchronous. One of the calls you can do that way is opening a file. Historically in Unix and Linux, there was no way to do that asynchronously. If you used open() and the operation was slow (for example NFS, or even anything on a hard disk), your program would be blocked until the call returned. If you don't want to block, you have to do the open() in a separate thread. GHC and Erlang BEAM have lightweight threads/processes, but they also had a pool of OS threads to handle operations like opening files. io_uring lets you open files asynchronously, so you can in principle simulate an OS in a single user-level process. More typically though, io_uring is used as an alternative to something like epoll, for listening on lots of sockets at the same time. There are a lot of benchmarks around that I think say io_uring is a little faster. io_uring also can replace AIO, which never worked very well. AIO was for asynchronous disk i/o operations after the file was already open. I haven't had occasion to use io_uring yet but I saw its importance when it first appeared.
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| From | Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 20:55 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: kqueues and port_create() |
| Message-ID | <86zeyqon38.fsf@williamsburg.bawden.org> |
| In reply to | #61410 |
Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> writes: > Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> writes: >> I _think_ what Paul was asking was is it possible to get notified when a >> specific file in the file system is opened. > > No in linux that's called inotify. io_uring is basically an alternative > system call interface that's relatively new, and maybe not complete. > You send off a request to do the system call, and get back a queued > response when the call is completed, unlike traditional syscalls that > appear to be synchronous. Ah! I didn't understand your original question because I didn't have the context of knowing what io_uring was. Thanks for introducing me to something new. -- Alan Bawden
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 11:37 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: kqueues and port_create() |
| Message-ID | <%ZafS.188494$jNNe.172551@fx15.ams4> |
| In reply to | #61406 |
On 12/08/2026 3:23 PM, Alan Bawden wrote: > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: > >> On 12/08/2026 11:59 AM, Paul Rubin wrote: >>> Is this something like io_uring? Is it just for i/o on open fd's or can >>> you also use it for stuff like opening files? >> The kqueue() is for open file descriptors, created as sockets or open >> files, or anything else the FreeBSD kernel decides is a file. I'm not >> aware of any interface to create one and open a file with the same func- >> tion call. > > I _think_ what Paul was asking was is it possible to get notified when a > specific file in the file system is opened. If that's what he's asking, > then the answer is: yes kqueue/kevent can do that. You open the file in > question using O_PATH, and then create a kevent using that descriptor > with filter EVFILT_VNODE and event NOTE_OPEN. > Thank you. Are you aware of any book on this subject? One that teaches the ins and outs of how to use kqueues in FreeBSD? Something similar to /Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment/ by Stevens? -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 12:59 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: kqueues and port_create() |
| Message-ID | <115ijb9$13du2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #61403 |
On 8/11/2026 8:59 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: >> https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?kqueue > > Is this something like io_uring? Is it just for i/o on open fd's or can > you also use it for stuff like opening files? io_uring is meant for io completion. Its more low level than IOCP over on the windozer. Heck, on win, we can use it (IOCP) for files and sockets. io_uring takes special care with padding and alignment to get the mmapped memory to work with the kernel.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-14 12:26 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C |
| Message-ID | <115mu22$2evoe$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #61370 |
(Given I'm commenting on the content of the online manual on a Linux
system, I'm adding and followingup-to comp.os.linux.misc.)
On 2026-08-11, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 17:41:30 -0300, Anton Antimo wrote:
>
>> For select (called unix-fast-select in SBCL), see sb-unix.
>
> select(2) is considered an archaic way of doing things these days,
> because of its ABI limitations. The modern way is poll()
> <https://manpages.debian.org/poll(2)> (POSIX) or even epoll()
> <https://manpages.debian.org/epoll(7)> (Linux-specific).
The online manual here (a GNU/Linux system) says:
"poll, ppoll - wait for some event on a file descriptor"
Perhaps that should be rewritten. Reading further, it's not singular,
but that description with "*A* file descriptor" does make it sound like
poll is not a suitable replacement for select.
--
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 07:59 +0800 |
| Subject | D.N.S. in Common Lisp (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) |
| Message-ID | <WHOeS.6$Awy7.4@fx01.ams4> |
| In reply to | #61369 |
On 11/08/2026 4:41 AM, Anton Antimo wrote: > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: > >> On 06/08/2026 5:48 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 13:13:42 -0300, Anton Antimo wrote: >>> >>>> To be fair, a big part of my struggle is the thick layer of Racket >>>> on top of POSIX. For instance, try to locate the equivalent >>>> select-call on it. It's so hard to recognize exactly how your Racket >>>> maps to the lower level. I understand that may a strong point of >>>> Racket's design, but it certainly hits my weakness. >>> Sounds very Java-like. Though perhaps not as irritating as Java. >>> Compare Python <https://docs.python.org/3/library/select.html> -- >>> that’s less than 10 pages (i.e. number of times I have to hit >>> Page-Down in the browser) of docs. >> >> >> I admit I'm not sure why the select system call seems to be missing from >> this selection of networking functions, [...] > > It would be like writing C in Lisp notation. For select (called > unix-fast-select in SBCL), see sb-unix. > > (defun wait-for-stdin-select () > (sb-alien:with-alien ((read-fds (sb-alien:struct sb-unix:fd-set))) > (sb-unix:fd-zero read-fds) > (sb-unix:fd-set 0 read-fds) > (format t "Waiting up to 5 seconds for input on stdin... Type something!~%") > (force-output) > (multiple-value-bind (count err) > (sb-unix:unix-fast-select 1 (sb-alien:addr read-fds) nil nil 5 0) > (cond > ((null count) > (format t "Select failed with errno: ~A~%" err)) > ((zerop count) > (format t "Timeout! No input received.~%")) > ((sb-unix:fd-isset 0 read-fds) > (format t "Data is ready to be read from stdin!~%")) > (t > (format t "Something else woke up select!~%")))))) > > ;; run it > (wait-for-stdin-select) Thank you. This is indeed helpful. Unhelpfully, Lawrence is always talking about some sort of select in Python, and then talks about polling in Linux, when he knows we don't care about the Linux kernel here in comp.lang.lisp, because the Steel Banks Common Lisp encapsulates the kernel for us. I also admit to just using the two or three available socket libraries in QuickLisp, whenever I need to deal with raw sockets. I once imple- mented a D.N.S. server -- or service -- in Common Lisp, that replied un- helpfully with an error message to every query, as a practice in the D.N.S. protocol. I'm not sure if that source code is still public. You can trivially make your own, if you need the D.N.S. protocol in Common Lisp. That code was then adopted and the D.N.S. protocol removed, to do some- thing with raw U.D.P. datagrams. That is the beauty of sharing source code; one never knows what other people do with it. And no, I don't know why Lawrence is always pretending to be a Python influencer here in comp.lang.lisp. I hope he's getting paid for it. Happy network coding in Common Lisp! -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
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| From | Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 09:01 -0300 |
| Subject | Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp |
| Message-ID | <874igztumy.fsf@safunu.org> |
| In reply to | #61395 |
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: > On 11/08/2026 4:41 AM, Anton Antimo wrote: >> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: >> >>> On 06/08/2026 5:48 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 13:13:42 -0300, Anton Antimo wrote: >>>> >>>>> To be fair, a big part of my struggle is the thick layer of Racket >>>>> on top of POSIX. For instance, try to locate the equivalent >>>>> select-call on it. It's so hard to recognize exactly how your Racket >>>>> maps to the lower level. I understand that may a strong point of >>>>> Racket's design, but it certainly hits my weakness. >>>> Sounds very Java-like. Though perhaps not as irritating as Java. >>>> Compare Python <https://docs.python.org/3/library/select.html> -- >>>> that’s less than 10 pages (i.e. number of times I have to hit >>>> Page-Down in the browser) of docs. >>> >>> >>> I admit I'm not sure why the select system call seems to be missing from >>> this selection of networking functions, [...] >> >> It would be like writing C in Lisp notation. For select (called >> unix-fast-select in SBCL), see sb-unix. >> (defun wait-for-stdin-select () >> (sb-alien:with-alien ((read-fds (sb-alien:struct sb-unix:fd-set))) >> (sb-unix:fd-zero read-fds) >> (sb-unix:fd-set 0 read-fds) >> (format t "Waiting up to 5 seconds for input on stdin... Type something!~%") >> (force-output) >> (multiple-value-bind (count err) >> (sb-unix:unix-fast-select 1 (sb-alien:addr read-fds) nil nil 5 0) >> (cond >> ((null count) >> (format t "Select failed with errno: ~A~%" err)) >> ((zerop count) >> (format t "Timeout! No input received.~%")) >> ((sb-unix:fd-isset 0 read-fds) >> (format t "Data is ready to be read from stdin!~%")) >> (t >> (format t "Something else woke up select!~%")))))) >> ;; run it >> (wait-for-stdin-select) > > Thank you. This is indeed helpful. But don't assume I'd ever write something like that in Lisp. Again, that's like C programming in Lisp notation. See IOLib, for example. > Unhelpfully, Lawrence is always talking about some sort of select in > Python, and then talks about polling in Linux, when he knows we don't > care about the Linux kernel here in comp.lang.lisp, because the Steel > Banks Common Lisp encapsulates the kernel for us. No sarcasm here. Lawrence has been doing a great service to the current USENET. We can say whatever we want about his knowledge or opinions or whatever, but he keeps a lot of people distracted here and I'm sure these people are all looking for a distraction. And his distractions are not all inadequate. He's usually bring up on-topic things that allows people here to exercise their own skills. If these contributions are too shallow---well---I'd say that's something we can say about most USENET traffic these days. Because we're very low volume these days, I think shallow contributions are better than nothing. I prefer the shallow chat than no chat at all. > And no, I don't know why Lawrence is always pretending to be a Python > influencer here in comp.lang.lisp. I hope he's getting paid for it. From what I can tell, Lawrence never really caught the Lisp culture---it can be seen in how he writes Lisp in the occasion he does it. This means his criticism aren't very serious. He loves Python, which is a way of saying---``thanks, Lisp, for the things you've done for me.''
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 11:20 +0800 |
| Subject | Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) |
| Message-ID | <WJafS.188493$jNNe.148766@fx15.ams4> |
| In reply to | #61411 |
On 12/08/2026 8:01 PM, Anton Antimo wrote: > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: > >> On 11/08/2026 4:41 AM, Anton Antimo wrote: >>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: >>> >>>> On 06/08/2026 5:48 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 13:13:42 -0300, Anton Antimo wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> To be fair, a big part of my struggle is the thick layer of Racket >>>>>> on top of POSIX. For instance, try to locate the equivalent >>>>>> select-call on it. It's so hard to recognize exactly how your Racket >>>>>> maps to the lower level. I understand that may a strong point of >>>>>> Racket's design, but it certainly hits my weakness. >>>>> Sounds very Java-like. Though perhaps not as irritating as Java. >>>>> Compare Python <https://docs.python.org/3/library/select.html> -- >>>>> that’s less than 10 pages (i.e. number of times I have to hit >>>>> Page-Down in the browser) of docs. >>>> >>>> >>>> I admit I'm not sure why the select system call seems to be missing from >>>> this selection of networking functions, [...] >>> >>> It would be like writing C in Lisp notation. For select (called >>> unix-fast-select in SBCL), see sb-unix. >>> (defun wait-for-stdin-select () >>> (sb-alien:with-alien ((read-fds (sb-alien:struct sb-unix:fd-set))) >>> (sb-unix:fd-zero read-fds) >>> (sb-unix:fd-set 0 read-fds) >>> (format t "Waiting up to 5 seconds for input on stdin... Type something!~%") >>> (force-output) >>> (multiple-value-bind (count err) >>> (sb-unix:unix-fast-select 1 (sb-alien:addr read-fds) nil nil 5 0) >>> (cond >>> ((null count) >>> (format t "Select failed with errno: ~A~%" err)) >>> ((zerop count) >>> (format t "Timeout! No input received.~%")) >>> ((sb-unix:fd-isset 0 read-fds) >>> (format t "Data is ready to be read from stdin!~%")) >>> (t >>> (format t "Something else woke up select!~%")))))) >>> ;; run it >>> (wait-for-stdin-select) >> >> Thank you. This is indeed helpful. > > But don't assume I'd ever write something like that in Lisp. Again, > that's like C programming in Lisp notation. See IOLib, for example. > >> Unhelpfully, Lawrence is always talking about some sort of select in >> Python, and then talks about polling in Linux, when he knows we don't >> care about the Linux kernel here in comp.lang.lisp, because the Steel >> Banks Common Lisp encapsulates the kernel for us. > > No sarcasm here. Lawrence has been doing a great service to the current > USENET. We can say whatever we want about his knowledge or opinions or > whatever, but he keeps a lot of people distracted here and I'm sure > these people are all looking for a distraction. And his distractions > are not all inadequate. He's usually bring up on-topic things that > allows people here to exercise their own skills. If these contributions > are too shallow---well---I'd say that's something we can say about most > USENET traffic these days. Because we're very low volume these days, I > think shallow contributions are better than nothing. I prefer the > shallow chat than no chat at all. And I prefer polite chat, such as the one we are now having. Thank you. I can only talk about my own skillset in Common Lisp, which I will prob- ably have to say is not that great, having used it much less in anger than C -- and prior to that, C++ but that's a different story -- and so I got myself all the Lisp books I have amassed, most or all of them al- ready mentioned in various topics here in comp.lang.lisp. That said, life happened, and continues to happen, so I don't know when I'll get to increase my skillset in Lisp. As everyone in comp.lang.c knows, I'm currently going through Appel's compiler book in C, and well, also took a detour by re-reading Loudon's /Mastering Algorithms in C/, which while somewhat basic in the C, is very good at giving practical examples of the data structures in question. I've previously mentioned a similar book in Lisp, by Domkin. I'll get to it one of these decades. > >> And no, I don't know why Lawrence is always pretending to be a Python >> influencer here in comp.lang.lisp. I hope he's getting paid for it. > > From what I can tell, Lawrence never really caught the Lisp culture---it > can be seen in how he writes Lisp in the occasion he does it. This > means his criticism aren't very serious. He loves Python, which is a > way of saying---``thanks, Lisp, for the things you've done for me.'' I'm not sure I did either, to be honest. I just find it fascinating in many ways, and wish to increase my own skillset in Lisp, and of course, get a better immersion in the culture. Personally, I think Lisp people need -- well, need is a strong word, but I'll go with it -- to get a little bit more behind the notion of practi- cality. I mean, the Steel Banks Common Lisp is fine, but many others aimed at beginners are exclusively geared towards facing the programmer him- -- or her- -- self. There is very little attention paid to the de- tails of creating binaries to share with friends. And by this, I mean the parts of the programmer facing documentation. I believe the Steel Banks Common Lisp manual does not mention how to create binary executa- bles? I believe I learned that from /Stack Overflow/ which everyone here in comp.lang.lisp knows is not a good place to learn how to do anything; not anymore. Games with Gabe wrote* about that extensively in his YouTube video, at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbDAmvUwo5c and I heartily agree. If I'm not mistaken, we also have this problem with Racket. Racket is aimed at students, mostly, learning to code in Scheme, or the Scheme dialect that is Racket, but not how to create binaries to share their work with their loved ones who don't code. So I believe we need more books about Common Lisp. Especially how to make production games in Common Lisp. I mean, the Steel Banks Common Lisp garbage collector cannot be worse than the old one in Unity, and I currently believe C.L.O.S. is eminently suitable for three dimensional game objects. What do you think? * Here I'm making fun of the YouTubian culture of only ever talk** about videos, and never anything published in books. "This guy made a video about something, and I'm going to talk about too" is the typical intro duction, if I remember correctly. I don't watch much of YouTube any- more. ** I'm going to leave this grammatical error. -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
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| From | Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 20:46 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Making production games in Common Lisp |
| Message-ID | <87pkzmptr4.fsf@nightsong.com> |
| In reply to | #61428 |
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: > So I believe we need more books about Common Lisp. Especially how to > make production games in Common Lisp. I mentioned Land of Lisp a couple days ago. Its sample programs are games, if that helps. They're closer to Hunt the Wumpus than to a modern AAA game, but it's a start. You might also like Tim Sweeney's old slide deck about a hypothetical new language for game dev: https://groups.csail.mit.edu/cag/crg/papers/sweeney06games.pdf
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 14:28 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: Making production games in Common Lisp |
| Message-ID | <XtdfS.280675$aXr.115302@fx18.ams4> |
| In reply to | #61431 |
On 13/08/2026 11:46 AM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: >> So I believe we need more books about Common Lisp. Especially how to >> make production games in Common Lisp. > > I mentioned Land of Lisp a couple days ago. Its sample programs are > games, if that helps. They're closer to Hunt the Wumpus than to a > modern AAA game, but it's a start. Yes, thank you. It's still in my shopping cart since a few days ago, and is likely to remain there until I start to get paychecks again. Sadly the new job I have lined up doesn't make use of Common Lisp yet, yet I have high hopes I can change that. > > You might also like Tim Sweeney's old slide deck about a hypothetical > new language for game dev: > > https://groups.csail.mit.edu/cag/crg/papers/sweeney06games.pdf I'll keep it in mind. -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
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| From | bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 11:46 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Making production games in Common Lisp |
| Message-ID | <115k3ph$1hcfk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #61431 |
Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> writes: > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: >> So I believe we need more books about Common Lisp. Especially how to >> make production games in Common Lisp. > > I mentioned Land of Lisp a couple days ago. Its sample programs are > games, if that helps. They're closer to Hunt the Wumpus than to a > modern AAA game, but it's a start. I second Land of Lisp, not only because there is an example of game, but moreover because, as I have to work with C/C++ at work, the way that the design is approached is very Lispy and refreshing to me, and something that in my day to day job I have no opportunity to explore and learn and practice. bix
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| From | Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 12:19 -0300 |
| Subject | Re: Making production games in Common Lisp |
| Message-ID | <87jypujbdt.fsf@safunu.org> |
| In reply to | #61428 |
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes:
> On 12/08/2026 8:01 PM, Anton Antimo wrote:
>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> On 11/08/2026 4:41 AM, Anton Antimo wrote:
>>>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On 06/08/2026 5:48 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 13:13:42 -0300, Anton Antimo wrote:
[...]
>>> Unhelpfully, Lawrence is always talking about some sort of select in
>>> Python, and then talks about polling in Linux, when he knows we don't
>>> care about the Linux kernel here in comp.lang.lisp, because the Steel
>>> Banks Common Lisp encapsulates the kernel for us.
>>
>> No sarcasm here. Lawrence has been doing a great service to the
>> current USENET. We can say whatever we want about his knowledge or
>> opinions or whatever, but he keeps a lot of people distracted here
>> and I'm sure these people are all looking for a distraction. And his
>> distractions are not all inadequate. He's usually bring up on-topic
>> things that allows people here to exercise their own skills. If
>> these contributions are too shallow---well---I'd say that's something
>> we can say about most USENET traffic these days. Because we're very
>> low volume these days, I think shallow contributions are better than
>> nothing. I prefer the shallow chat than no chat at all.
>
> And I prefer polite chat, such as the one we are now having. Thank you.
Yeah---rudeness in USENET is a reflection of the health state of its
participants.
> I can only talk about my own skillset in Common Lisp, which I will prob-
> ably have to say is not that great, having used it much less in anger
> than C -- and prior to that, C++ but that's a different story -- and so
> I got myself all the Lisp books I have amassed, most or all of them al-
> ready mentioned in various topics here in comp.lang.lisp.
>
> That said, life happened, and continues to happen, so I don't know when
> I'll get to increase my skillset in Lisp. As everyone in comp.lang.c
> knows, I'm currently going through Appel's compiler book in C, and well,
> also took a detour by re-reading Loudon's /Mastering Algorithms in C/,
> which while somewhat basic in the C, is very good at giving practical
> examples of the data structures in question.
>
> I've previously mentioned a similar book in Lisp, by Domkin. I'll get
> to it one of these decades.
I've thankfully read this one by Kyle Loudon as well. Keep your
studying going slowly, but constantly. There's no rush. Things
meaningfully evolve as fast as everybody says. There's no royal road to
knowledge and wisdom; no AI-road either. Keep it up; be careful with
your time on the USENET.
>>> And no, I don't know why Lawrence is always pretending to be a Python
>>> influencer here in comp.lang.lisp. I hope he's getting paid for it.
>>
>> From what I can tell, Lawrence never really caught the Lisp
>> culture---it can be seen in how he writes Lisp in the occasion he
>> does it. This means his criticism aren't very serious. He loves
>> Python, which is a way of saying---``thanks, Lisp, for the things
>> you've done for me.''
>
> I'm not sure I did either, to be honest. I just find it fascinating in
> many ways, and wish to increase my own skillset in Lisp, and of course,
> get a better immersion in the culture.
Try to understand when, why and how people did what they did. In other
words, I think history is very important in studying. New is not always
better.
> Personally, I think Lisp people need -- well, need is a strong word, but
> I'll go with it -- to get a little bit more behind the notion of practi-
> cality. I mean, the Steel Banks Common Lisp is fine, but many others
> aimed at beginners are exclusively geared towards facing the programmer
> him- -- or her- -- self. There is very little attention paid to the de-
> tails of creating binaries to share with friends. And by this, I mean
> the parts of the programmer facing documentation. I believe the Steel
> Banks Common Lisp manual does not mention how to create binary executa-
> bles? I believe I learned that from /Stack Overflow/ which everyone
> here in comp.lang.lisp knows is not a good place to learn how to do
> anything; not anymore.
See SBCL's sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die.
(sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die #P"my-executable.exe"
:toplevel #'my-package:main
:executable t
:save-runtime-options t)
Source:
https://www.sbcl.org/manual/
> If I'm not mistaken, we also have this problem with Racket. Racket is
> aimed at students, mostly, learning to code in Scheme, or the Scheme
> dialect that is Racket, but not how to create binaries to share their
> work with their loved ones who don't code.
That's what Racket claims. They claim it to be real-world, batteries
included and whatnot. They also create executable binaries like SBCL
does above.
> So I believe we need more books about Common Lisp. Especially how to
> make production games in Common Lisp. I mean, the Steel Banks Common
> Lisp garbage collector cannot be worse than the old one in Unity, and
> I currently believe C.L.O.S. is eminently suitable for three
> dimensional game objects.
>
> What do you think?
I never think about games, thankfully. I've played video-games from 11
to 14 years old, replacing them completely with UNIX, a great
investment.
Economically speaking, if CL had more users, there'd be more books. I
don't have much need for Common Lisp (strictly speaking) books myself.
I'm not trying myself to read more books on the language. What I'm
doing is writing more Common Lisp and reading more of it. What
certainly helps me is for people to use it, which then indirectly asks
for more books (but for the wrong reasons: the beginner often thinks
that something new is required for him to invest his time; reading an
old book seems like a waste of time for so many of them, but that's only
because they're beginners and might be for the rest of their lives).
> * Here I'm making fun of the YouTubian culture of only ever talk** about
> videos, and never anything published in books. "This guy made a video
> about something, and I'm going to talk about too" is the typical intro
> duction, if I remember correctly. I don't watch much of YouTube any-
> more.
>
> ** I'm going to leave this grammatical error.
Yeah---knowing how to use a natural language includes knowing how to
violate ``its grammar'' as well.
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-14 01:24 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: Making production games in Common Lisp |
| Message-ID | <V4nfS.169744$ga2.85333@fx11.ams4> |
| In reply to | #61439 |
On 13/08/2026 11:19 PM, Anton Antimo wrote: > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: > >> On 12/08/2026 8:01 PM, Anton Antimo wrote: >>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: >>> >>>> On 11/08/2026 4:41 AM, Anton Antimo wrote: >>>>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> On 06/08/2026 5:48 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 13:13:42 -0300, Anton Antimo wrote: > > [...] > >>>> Unhelpfully, Lawrence is always talking about some sort of select in >>>> Python, and then talks about polling in Linux, when he knows we don't >>>> care about the Linux kernel here in comp.lang.lisp, because the Steel >>>> Banks Common Lisp encapsulates the kernel for us. >>> >>> No sarcasm here. Lawrence has been doing a great service to the >>> current USENET. We can say whatever we want about his knowledge or >>> opinions or whatever, but he keeps a lot of people distracted here >>> and I'm sure these people are all looking for a distraction. And his >>> distractions are not all inadequate. He's usually bring up on-topic >>> things that allows people here to exercise their own skills. If >>> these contributions are too shallow---well---I'd say that's something >>> we can say about most USENET traffic these days. Because we're very >>> low volume these days, I think shallow contributions are better than >>> nothing. I prefer the shallow chat than no chat at all. >> >> And I prefer polite chat, such as the one we are now having. Thank you. > > Yeah---rudeness in USENET is a reflection of the health state of its > participants. > >> I can only talk about my own skillset in Common Lisp, which I will prob- >> ably have to say is not that great, having used it much less in anger >> than C -- and prior to that, C++ but that's a different story -- and so >> I got myself all the Lisp books I have amassed, most or all of them al- >> ready mentioned in various topics here in comp.lang.lisp. >> >> That said, life happened, and continues to happen, so I don't know when >> I'll get to increase my skillset in Lisp. As everyone in comp.lang.c >> knows, I'm currently going through Appel's compiler book in C, and well, >> also took a detour by re-reading Loudon's /Mastering Algorithms in C/, >> which while somewhat basic in the C, is very good at giving practical >> examples of the data structures in question. >> >> I've previously mentioned a similar book in Lisp, by Domkin. I'll get >> to it one of these decades. > > I've thankfully read this one by Kyle Loudon as well. Keep your > studying going slowly, but constantly. There's no rush. Things > meaningfully evolve as fast as everybody says. There's no royal road to > knowledge and wisdom; no AI-road either. Keep it up; be careful with > your time on the USENET. > >>>> And no, I don't know why Lawrence is always pretending to be a Python >>>> influencer here in comp.lang.lisp. I hope he's getting paid for it. >>> >>> From what I can tell, Lawrence never really caught the Lisp >>> culture---it can be seen in how he writes Lisp in the occasion he >>> does it. This means his criticism aren't very serious. He loves >>> Python, which is a way of saying---``thanks, Lisp, for the things >>> you've done for me.'' >> >> I'm not sure I did either, to be honest. I just find it fascinating in >> many ways, and wish to increase my own skillset in Lisp, and of course, >> get a better immersion in the culture. > > Try to understand when, why and how people did what they did. In other > words, I think history is very important in studying. New is not always > better. > >> Personally, I think Lisp people need -- well, need is a strong word, but >> I'll go with it -- to get a little bit more behind the notion of practi- >> cality. I mean, the Steel Banks Common Lisp is fine, but many others >> aimed at beginners are exclusively geared towards facing the programmer >> him- -- or her- -- self. There is very little attention paid to the de- >> tails of creating binaries to share with friends. And by this, I mean >> the parts of the programmer facing documentation. I believe the Steel >> Banks Common Lisp manual does not mention how to create binary executa- >> bles? I believe I learned that from /Stack Overflow/ which everyone >> here in comp.lang.lisp knows is not a good place to learn how to do >> anything; not anymore. > > See SBCL's sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die. > > (sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die #P"my-executable.exe" > :toplevel #'my-package:main > :executable t > :save-runtime-options t) > > Source: > https://www.sbcl.org/manual/ And herein lies the conundrum. I believe I took a quick glance at the manual, looked at the able of contents, and even tried ctrl+f and the terms /binary/ or /binaries/, and /executable/, and found nothing. Being /technically/ in the manual does not help if one cannot easily find what one is looking for. It also doesn't help if one doesn't have expectations of finding it in the first place. And now I found myself speaking like 17th century royalty. > >> If I'm not mistaken, we also have this problem with Racket. Racket is >> aimed at students, mostly, learning to code in Scheme, or the Scheme >> dialect that is Racket, but not how to create binaries to share their >> work with their loved ones who don't code. > > That's what Racket claims. They claim it to be real-world, batteries > included and whatnot. They also create executable binaries like SBCL > does above. > >> So I believe we need more books about Common Lisp. Especially how to >> make production games in Common Lisp. I mean, the Steel Banks Common >> Lisp garbage collector cannot be worse than the old one in Unity, and >> I currently believe C.L.O.S. is eminently suitable for three >> dimensional game objects. >> >> What do you think? > > I never think about games, thankfully. I've played video-games from 11 > to 14 years old, replacing them completely with UNIX, a great > investment. I believe there is something to be learned from making a fully grown video game, yet I have never done so. My brief stint as a /professional game developer/ was done with Unity, in C#, and I believe the game never got finished. What I have done is read a few book about game develop- ment -- many of them bought during this time frame -- and am now think- ing a small game done with SDL2 or SDL3 is worth exploring simply be- cause of the manual game loop. It's not often that we get to make our own loop, when we create graphical applications. And depending on how we create server applications, we don't either. If my recollection is correct about this, Hunchentoot would be a good exam- ple. There are other /programming patterns/ that show up almost exclusively in interactive games, well worth exploring now and then. > > Economically speaking, if CL had more users, there'd be more books. I > don't have much need for Common Lisp (strictly speaking) books myself. > I'm not trying myself to read more books on the language. What I'm > doing is writing more Common Lisp and reading more of it. What > certainly helps me is for people to use it, which then indirectly asks > for more books (but for the wrong reasons: the beginner often thinks > that something new is required for him to invest his time; reading an > old book seems like a waste of time for so many of them, but that's only > because they're beginners and might be for the rest of their lives). Well, I don't only mean beginner books. I mean some of the more ad- vanced books as well, when it comes to C. Of course /Common Lisp Re- cipes/, and /The Common Lisp Condition System/ should be good examples that I'll get to read one of these decades. Here I'm thinking of Adam Tornhill's /Patterns in C/. There are even several more, some of which I've lost track of, because I believe they were only available as a PDF and I neglected to print them out. Right now I'm not inclined to cross post this to comp.lang.c, and ask if they'd be willing to fill in some of those blanks. Hm, as-is, there seems to be a /blank/ in my knowledge, when it comes to thinking of an equivalent book in Lisp. Specifically about these /patt- erns/, and how to use them. Perhaps there is no need? After all, the original patterns book in Java was all about working around deficiencies in the Java programming lang- uage, and maybe Common Lisp has few enough of those we don't care about a specific set of patterns? Or is this simply covered in /Common Lisp Recipes/ and I forgot? > >> * Here I'm making fun of the YouTubian culture of only ever talk** about >> videos, and never anything published in books. "This guy made a video >> about something, and I'm going to talk about too" is the typical intro >> duction, if I remember correctly. I don't watch much of YouTube any- >> more. >> >> ** I'm going to leave this grammatical error. > > Yeah---knowing how to use a natural language includes knowing how to > violate ``its grammar'' as well. Have a nice day, and Lisp well! -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
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| From | ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 17:39 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Making production games in Common Lisp |
| Message-ID | <Patterns-20260813183818@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> |
| In reply to | #61442 |
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> wrote or quoted: >Perhaps there is no need? After all, the original patterns book in Java Alexander, C., Ishikawa, S., Silverstein, M., Jacobson, M., Fiksdahl-King, I., & Angel, S. (1977). A Pattern Language: Towns, Buildings, Construction. Oxford University Press. Gamma, E., Helm, R., Johnson, R., & Vlissides, J. (1994). Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software (1st ed.). Addison-Wesley Professional. With examples in Smalltalk and C++. Gabriel, R. P. (1996). Patterns of Software: Tales from the Software Community. Oxford University Press. 1996-01 Release of Java Grand, M. (1998). Patterns in Java, Volume 1: A Catalog of Reusable Design Patterns Illustrated with UML. John Wiley & Sons.
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| From | Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 20:58 -0300 |
| Subject | Re: Making production games in Common Lisp |
| Message-ID | <874igxfu9i.fsf@safunu.org> |
| In reply to | #61442 |
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: > On 13/08/2026 11:19 PM, Anton Antimo wrote: [...] >>> Personally, I think Lisp people need -- well, need is a strong word, but >>> I'll go with it -- to get a little bit more behind the notion of practi- >>> cality. I mean, the Steel Banks Common Lisp is fine, but many others >>> aimed at beginners are exclusively geared towards facing the programmer >>> him- -- or her- -- self. There is very little attention paid to the de- >>> tails of creating binaries to share with friends. And by this, I mean >>> the parts of the programmer facing documentation. I believe the Steel >>> Banks Common Lisp manual does not mention how to create binary executa- >>> bles? I believe I learned that from /Stack Overflow/ which everyone >>> here in comp.lang.lisp knows is not a good place to learn how to do >>> anything; not anymore. >> >> See SBCL's sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die. >> (sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die #P"my-executable.exe" >> :toplevel #'my-package:main >> :executable t >> :save-runtime-options t) >> Source: >> https://www.sbcl.org/manual/ > > And herein lies the conundrum. I believe I took a quick glance at the > manual, looked at the able of contents, and even tried ctrl+f and the > terms /binary/ or /binaries/, and /executable/, and found nothing. > > Being /technically/ in the manual does not help if one cannot easily > find what one is looking for. It also doesn't help if one doesn't have > expectations of finding it in the first place. Try the ``executable'' keyword; you'll find this: --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8--- Executable Delivery: The :executable argument to sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die can produce a "standalone" executable containing both an image of the current Lisp session and an SBCL runtime. --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8--- Source: https://www.sbcl.org/manual/ [...] >>> So I believe we need more books about Common Lisp. Especially how to >>> make production games in Common Lisp. I mean, the Steel Banks Common >>> Lisp garbage collector cannot be worse than the old one in Unity, and >>> I currently believe C.L.O.S. is eminently suitable for three >>> dimensional game objects. >>> >>> What do you think? >> I never think about games, thankfully. I've played video-games from >> 11 >> to 14 years old, replacing them completely with UNIX, a great >> investment. By the way, have a look at these (broken) lines above. Your Mozilla Thunderbird is not knowing how to properly handle quotes. I once hacked it around to make sure it wouldn't mess up quotes like that, but it wasn't too obvious how to do it. (It's also Thunderbird that's making sometimes give too much vertical space and sometimes too little. USENET has traditionally used fixed-fonts. With this Thunderbird culture, you'll always violate that culture.) >> Economically speaking, if CL had more users, there'd be more books. >> I don't have much need for Common Lisp (strictly speaking) books >> myself. I'm not trying myself to read more books on the language. >> What I'm doing is writing more Common Lisp and reading more of it. >> What certainly helps me is for people to use it, which then >> indirectly asks for more books (but for the wrong reasons: the >> beginner often thinks that something new is required for him to >> invest his time; reading an old book seems like a waste of time for >> so many of them, but that's only because they're beginners and might >> be for the rest of their lives). > > Well, I don't only mean beginner books. I mean some of the more ad- > vanced books as well, when it comes to C. Of course /Common Lisp Re- > cipes/, and /The Common Lisp Condition System/ should be good examples > that I'll get to read one of these decades. Here I'm thinking of Adam > Tornhill's /Patterns in C/. There are even several more, some of which > I've lost track of, because I believe they were only available as a PDF > and I neglected to print them out. > > Right now I'm not inclined to cross post this to comp.lang.c, and ask if > they'd be willing to fill in some of those blanks. > > Hm, as-is, there seems to be a /blank/ in my knowledge, when it comes to > thinking of an equivalent book in Lisp. Specifically about these /patt- > erns/, and how to use them. > > Perhaps there is no need? After all, the original patterns book in Java > was all about working around deficiencies in the Java programming lang- > uage, and maybe Common Lisp has few enough of those we don't care about > a specific set of patterns? > > Or is this simply covered in /Common Lisp Recipes/ and I forgot? I have no idea. It'd be great to have more books on Lisp, but that'd take more writers and more readers too. Such is life. Looking on the bright side, I think Lisp is one of the easiest languages to read and there's more Lisp software out there that I could read likely in my lifetime. Who knows, maybe we'd learn more by reading source-code than by reading books? (A serious question.) Maybe it's a blessing we don't have too many books to read on this language. I propose we try out this possibility. > Have a nice day, and Lisp well! Thank you! You too.
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| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-14 13:42 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: Making production games in Common Lisp |
| Message-ID | <SUxfS.292910$aXr.34899@fx18.ams4> |
| In reply to | #61453 |
On 14/08/2026 7:58 AM, Anton Antimo wrote: > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: > >> On 13/08/2026 11:19 PM, Anton Antimo wrote: > > [...] > >>>> Personally, I think Lisp people need -- well, need is a strong word, but >>>> I'll go with it -- to get a little bit more behind the notion of practi- >>>> cality. I mean, the Steel Banks Common Lisp is fine, but many others >>>> aimed at beginners are exclusively geared towards facing the programmer >>>> him- -- or her- -- self. There is very little attention paid to the de- >>>> tails of creating binaries to share with friends. And by this, I mean >>>> the parts of the programmer facing documentation. I believe the Steel >>>> Banks Common Lisp manual does not mention how to create binary executa- >>>> bles? I believe I learned that from /Stack Overflow/ which everyone >>>> here in comp.lang.lisp knows is not a good place to learn how to do >>>> anything; not anymore. >>> >>> See SBCL's sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die. >>> (sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die #P"my-executable.exe" >>> :toplevel #'my-package:main >>> :executable t >>> :save-runtime-options t) >>> Source: >>> https://www.sbcl.org/manual/ >> >> And herein lies the conundrum. I believe I took a quick glance at the >> manual, looked at the able of contents, and even tried ctrl+f and the >> terms /binary/ or /binaries/, and /executable/, and found nothing. >> >> Being /technically/ in the manual does not help if one cannot easily >> find what one is looking for. It also doesn't help if one doesn't have >> expectations of finding it in the first place. > > Try the ``executable'' keyword; you'll find this: > > --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8--- > Executable Delivery: The :executable argument to > sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die can produce a "standalone" executable > containing both an image of the current Lisp session and an SBCL > runtime. > --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8--- > > Source: > https://www.sbcl.org/manual/ Please be patient with me. Here is a screenshot. I'm afraid the link is ridiculously long, and I don't use url shorteners anymore. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/07asmp90gza39utr55wro/SBCL-manual-execu.jpg?rlkey=jd3tcevbchchpsge37xfmjh1j&st=pk2y5hvh&dl=0 What I'm looking at here seems to be the word "execu" -- or the prefix of which -- not being found. Should I have continued to type the whole word? I thought this worked like Emacs' incremental search, and as I typed more characters, it would search longer words, until it wouldn't find what I've typed so far. Is this perhaps a matter of not using the right browser? I mean, what browser do the team players behind S.B.C.L. habitually use themselves? -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-14 12:46 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Making production games in Common Lisp |
| Message-ID | <115mv75$2evoe$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #61457 |
On 2026-08-14, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote: > On 14/08/2026 7:58 AM, Anton Antimo wrote: >> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: >> >>> On 13/08/2026 11:19 PM, Anton Antimo wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>>>> Personally, I think Lisp people need -- well, need is a strong word, but >>>>> I'll go with it -- to get a little bit more behind the notion of practi- >>>>> cality. I mean, the Steel Banks Common Lisp is fine, but many others >>>>> aimed at beginners are exclusively geared towards facing the programmer >>>>> him- -- or her- -- self. There is very little attention paid to the de- >>>>> tails of creating binaries to share with friends. And by this, I mean >>>>> the parts of the programmer facing documentation. I believe the Steel >>>>> Banks Common Lisp manual does not mention how to create binary executa- >>>>> bles? I believe I learned that from /Stack Overflow/ which everyone >>>>> here in comp.lang.lisp knows is not a good place to learn how to do >>>>> anything; not anymore. >>>> >>>> See SBCL's sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die. >>>> (sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die #P"my-executable.exe" >>>> :toplevel #'my-package:main >>>> :executable t >>>> :save-runtime-options t) >>>> Source: >>>> https://www.sbcl.org/manual/ >>> >>> And herein lies the conundrum. I believe I took a quick glance at the >>> manual, looked at the able of contents, and even tried ctrl+f and the >>> terms /binary/ or /binaries/, and /executable/, and found nothing. >>> >>> Being /technically/ in the manual does not help if one cannot easily >>> find what one is looking for. It also doesn't help if one doesn't have >>> expectations of finding it in the first place. >> >> Try the ``executable'' keyword; you'll find this: >> >> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8--- >> Executable Delivery: The :executable argument to >> sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die can produce a "standalone" executable >> containing both an image of the current Lisp session and an SBCL >> runtime. >> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8--- >> >> Source: >> https://www.sbcl.org/manual/ > > > Please be patient with me. Here is a screenshot. I'm afraid the link > is ridiculously long, and I don't use url shorteners anymore. > > https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/07asmp90gza39utr55wro/SBCL-manual-execu.jpg?rlkey=jd3tcevbchchpsge37xfmjh1j&st=pk2y5hvh&dl=0 (Please consider changing www. to dl. when sharing dropbox links. It seems this one needs the rlkey GET parameter, but it still works as a direct link once changed to "dl.".) > What I'm looking at here seems to be the word "execu" -- or the prefix > of which -- not being found. Should I have continued to type the whole > word? I thought this worked like Emacs' incremental search, and as I > typed more characters, it would search longer words, until it wouldn't > find what I've typed so far. You have "Whole words" enabled, uncheck that. > Is this perhaps a matter of not using the right browser? I mean, what > browser do the team players behind S.B.C.L. habitually use themselves? -- Nuno Silva
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| From | Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 15:29 -0300 |
| Subject | Re: Making production games in Common Lisp |
| Message-ID | <87mrul3onj.fsf@safunu.org> |
| In reply to | #61457 |
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: > On 14/08/2026 7:58 AM, Anton Antimo wrote: >> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: >> >>> On 13/08/2026 11:19 PM, Anton Antimo wrote: >> [...] >> >>>>> Personally, I think Lisp people need -- well, need is a strong word, but >>>>> I'll go with it -- to get a little bit more behind the notion of practi- >>>>> cality. I mean, the Steel Banks Common Lisp is fine, but many others >>>>> aimed at beginners are exclusively geared towards facing the programmer >>>>> him- -- or her- -- self. There is very little attention paid to the de- >>>>> tails of creating binaries to share with friends. And by this, I mean >>>>> the parts of the programmer facing documentation. I believe the Steel >>>>> Banks Common Lisp manual does not mention how to create binary executa- >>>>> bles? I believe I learned that from /Stack Overflow/ which everyone >>>>> here in comp.lang.lisp knows is not a good place to learn how to do >>>>> anything; not anymore. >>>> >>>> See SBCL's sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die. >>>> (sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die #P"my-executable.exe" >>>> :toplevel #'my-package:main >>>> :executable t >>>> :save-runtime-options t) >>>> Source: >>>> https://www.sbcl.org/manual/ >>> >>> And herein lies the conundrum. I believe I took a quick glance at the >>> manual, looked at the able of contents, and even tried ctrl+f and the >>> terms /binary/ or /binaries/, and /executable/, and found nothing. >>> >>> Being /technically/ in the manual does not help if one cannot easily >>> find what one is looking for. It also doesn't help if one doesn't have >>> expectations of finding it in the first place. >> Try the ``executable'' keyword; you'll find this: >> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8--- >> Executable Delivery: The :executable argument to >> sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die can produce a "standalone" executable >> containing both an image of the current Lisp session and an SBCL >> runtime. >> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8--- >> Source: >> https://www.sbcl.org/manual/ > > > Please be patient with me. Here is a screenshot. I'm afraid the link > is ridiculously long, and I don't use url shorteners anymore. > > https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/07asmp90gza39utr55wro/SBCL-manual-execu.jpg?rlkey=jd3tcevbchchpsge37xfmjh1j&st=pk2y5hvh&dl=0 > > What I'm looking at here seems to be the word "execu" -- or the prefix > of which -- not being found. Should I have continued to type the whole > word? I thought this worked like Emacs' incremental search, and as I > typed more characters, it would search longer words, until it wouldn't > find what I've typed so far. > > Is this perhaps a matter of not using the right browser? I mean, what > browser do the team players behind S.B.C.L. habitually use themselves? I suggest you download the HTML, look inside with your text editor, then troubleshoot your browser later.
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| From | Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 17:31 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Making production games in Common Lisp |
| Message-ID | <87h5kxpmo7.fsf@nightsong.com> |
| In reply to | #61442 |
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> writes: > Hm, as-is, there seems to be a /blank/ in my knowledge, when it comes to > thinking of an equivalent book in Lisp. Specifically about these /patt- > erns/, and how to use them. Winston and Horn "Lisp" was a favorite way back in the day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LISP_(book) It was originally part of the book "Artificial Intelligence" but the Lisp part split off into a separate volume, per the Wikipedia article above. The thing is, CL's design makes some sense, but only up to a point. It's not holistic like Scheme, so don't expect too much consistency. CL's unifying purpose was to maintain some level of commonality with a bunch of incompatible predecessor Lisps of varying origin. It didn't try to run earlier dialects without modification, but it tried to keep the porting effort manageable, as I understand it. Old timers here will know more about this than I do. There are some good history documents around whose names I don't remember. In my case I found CLTL1 to be pretty understandable after first gaining an understanding of Lisp by reading through the Emacs Lisp interpreter source code (written in C) and mucking around with some Emacs Lisp code. The CADR manual was also enlightening, even though I never actually used a CADR or any other Lisp machine (I guess that's a sign of a deprived childhood). See: https://tumbleweed.nu/r/lm-3/uv/chinual.html As for Scheme, I think of it more as an assembly language for a cosmic sized computer, than as something for humans program much in directly. Others believe the opposite.
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