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Resources to learn common lisp?

Started byMario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es>
First post2026-02-20 22:53 +0100
Last post2026-08-22 11:28 +0800
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  Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-20 22:53 +0100
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2026-02-20 22:00 +0000
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-21 12:25 +0100
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-02-21 10:24 -0500
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-21 21:30 +0000
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-22 01:08 +0100
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-22 04:59 +0000
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-02-22 10:59 +0530
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-22 21:48 +0000
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 12:43 -0400
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 12:41 -0400
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 20:02 +0000
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 00:23 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:28 +0000
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:32 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:27 -0400
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 17:33 +0000
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:16 -0400
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:53 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Axel Reichert <mail@axel-reichert.de> - 2026-06-09 12:07 +0200
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:14 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 00:01 -0400
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-17 05:53 +0000
                        [OT] Disappearing documentation (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 09:06 +0100
                          Re: [OT] Disappearing documentation steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:05 -0400
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:01 -0400
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-20 00:02 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 17:22 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:59 -0700
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 00:55 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:43 -0700
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:45 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:35 +0000
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anthk GM <anthk@disroot.org> - 2026-08-15 22:29 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-15 23:38 +0000
              Buy the official standard from A.N.S.I. (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-16 11:25 +0800
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 12:37 -0400
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:33 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 00:22 -0400
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-09 01:22 -0400
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:17 +0000
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:50 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:40 -0400
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 00:26 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 22:10 -0400
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 21:37 -0700
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Joerg Mertens <joerg-mertens@t-online.de> - 2026-06-17 12:04 +0200
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-17 11:17 +0000
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 13:57 +0000
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:06 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-18 09:17 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-18 13:32 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-18 14:21 -0700
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-19 08:12 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-19 04:27 -0700
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 21:24 -0400
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-20 13:00 -0400
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 07:55 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-18 12:53 -0400
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-18 21:28 -0400
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-19 15:08 -0400
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-19 22:32 -0400
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-20 13:56 -0400
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-21 14:57 -0700
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-22 09:11 -0400
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-24 22:14 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-25 11:20 -0400
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:47 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:21 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-29 19:00 -0400
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:34 +0000
                                        Python blanks (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-02 08:39 +0100
                                          Re: Python blanks ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-02 09:24 +0000
                                            Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 21:10 +0000
                                              Re: Python blanks Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:34 +0100
                                                Re: Python blanks George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-03 02:10 -0400
                                                  Re: Python blanks Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 07:21 +0100
                                                    Re: Python blanks Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 01:47 -0700
                                                      Re: Python blanks Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-03 17:42 -0400
                                                      Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 04:15 +0000
                                                  Re: Python blanks yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2026-07-03 12:51 +0042
                                                    Re: Python blanks Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 11:34 -0700
                                                      Re: Python blanks Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-07-04 04:03 +0000
                                                        Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 04:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Python blanks tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 11:34 +0000
                                                        Re: Python blanks ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-09 13:15 +0000
                                                          Re: Python blanks tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 13:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Python blanks antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-07-09 14:01 +0000
                                                          Re: Python blanks tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 14:39 +0000
                                                            Re: Python blanks antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-07-09 21:03 +0000
                                                              Re: Python blanks tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 21:23 +0000
                                                              Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-09 23:09 +0000
                                                              Re: Python blanks steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 23:05 -0400
                                                                Re: Python blanks George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-06 09:57 -0400
                                                          Re: Python blanks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-09 23:08 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-02 13:41 -0400
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 05:45 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-03 10:12 -0400
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 18:43 -0700
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 23:28 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 17:22 -0700
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:47 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 23:24 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-04 21:48 -0400
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 23:56 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:47 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-20 13:43 -0400
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-20 22:28 -0400
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-22 09:16 -0400
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 23:38 +0000
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-26 00:43 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 02:52 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:06 -0400
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-11 05:27 -0400
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 22:12 -0400
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:24 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-11 05:57 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-11 21:07 -0400
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 13:06 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-13 00:13 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 07:25 +0000
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-13 08:25 +0000
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 08:46 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 08:52 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:57 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-15 10:10 +0100
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:56 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 11:46 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:03 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-18 07:52 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 23:35 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 20:56 -0400
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-13 00:55 -0400
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 07:43 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 21:37 -0400
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:09 -0700
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:02 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 10:12 +0000
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 22:54 -0400
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-17 00:07 -0400
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 08:33 +0000
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:48 -0400
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:28 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:42 +0000
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 23:32 -0400
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-09 09:36 -0400
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:06 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-10 08:43 -0400
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 00:22 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-11 08:57 -0400
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-12 00:16 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 21:42 -0400
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 01:15 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-15 05:42 +0000
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 11:19 +0000
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 00:18 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-16 03:27 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 01:25 -0700
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-17 10:13 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-18 13:57 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:11 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-18 02:30 -0700
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 08:21 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-18 09:32 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 08:24 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 09:47 +0000
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:26 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-02 18:22 -0400
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 04:04 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-03 02:16 -0400
                                            [OT] Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 07:29 +0100
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-03 10:18 -0400
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 03:51 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-04 09:23 -0400
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:46 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 21:44 -0700
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 05:17 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 08:43 +0100
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-06 05:13 -0400
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:03 -0700
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 12:31 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 14:55 -0400
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 08:42 +0100
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-05 11:02 -0400
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-06 01:10 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-06 05:21 -0400
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-07 11:52 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-07-08 01:46 +0000
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-08 03:04 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-07 19:30 -0700
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-07 19:34 -0700
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:03 -0700
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 05:44 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 03:21 -0700
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 23:22 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:15 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 16:04 -0400
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 12:12 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-13 14:59 -0400
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-18 14:15 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 08:23 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 10:02 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:58 -0400
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 23:53 -0400
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-17 05:55 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-17 01:43 -0700
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:07 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:58 -0400
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:52 -0400
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-20 00:04 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-11 06:37 -0400
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:30 -0700
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 00:58 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:46 -0700
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-15 06:59 -0400
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-15 12:25 -0700
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 07:47 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 17:42 +0000
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-12 00:16 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:34 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-13 00:11 +0000
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-13 04:06 -0400
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:37 -0700
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-13 21:25 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 15:26 -0700
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:37 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 01:34 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-15 05:43 +0000
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 11:23 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 00:23 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-16 03:29 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 04:59 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:10 -0700
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:42 -0400
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 06:01 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:12 -0400
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:35 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 15:53 -0400
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 13:34 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:41 -0400
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 20:31 -0700
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:04 -0400
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 17:44 -0700
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 08:36 +0000
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:43 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-14 10:36 -0400
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 23:55 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 18:04 -0700
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 12:33 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 02:56 +0000
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-27 20:25 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:37 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 16:55 -0700
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 08:41 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:44 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 07:33 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:30 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:08 -0400
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:53 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:22 -0400
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 22:00 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-05 22:34 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-08 22:05 +0800
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:42 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:48 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 21:18 -0400
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 11:19 +0100
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-11 10:00 -0300
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 18:31 +0100
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 19:35 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 20:56 +0100
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 20:21 +0000
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 22:44 +0100
                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 22:50 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:35 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 16:28 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 05:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 07:14 +0100
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 06:47 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:33 -0700
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 11:42 -0300
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-13 15:39 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 16:52 -0300
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 05:04 +0800
                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:16 -0300
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 00:11 +0000
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-13 17:16 -0700
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 10:27 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-13 20:35 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:04 -0300
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 23:58 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 09:27 +0100
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 23:35 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 18:35 +0000
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 21:14 +0100
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 21:01 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-22 23:48 +0000
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:20 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 09:12 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:23 -0400
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:26 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:19 +0000
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 16:25 +0000
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 23:30 -0400
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 16:52 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 17:53 -0400
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-24 09:46 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 17:43 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:39 -0700
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-12 23:23 +0100
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-10 15:05 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-08 22:00 +0800
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-08-08 14:14 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-09 20:34 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-08 14:45 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 02:18 +0800
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:47 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-11 11:38 -0400
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 18:59 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-15 21:12 -0400
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:20 -0300
                                                              Names for GenAI (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:30 +0100
                                                                Re: Names for GenAI ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-14 12:49 +0000
                                                                  Re: Names for GenAI Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 09:51 +0100
                                                                    Re: Names for GenAI Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-30 02:01 -0700
                                                                Re: Names for GenAI Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 13:56 -0300
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-29 16:16 -0400
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 13:46 -0700
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-30 17:15 -0400
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 04:07 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 12:26 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 16:06 -0400
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-11 15:03 -0700
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 12:12 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-13 15:55 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 20:37 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:18 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-29 22:06 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:15 -0400
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-30 21:05 -0400
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-31 08:01 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-04 22:08 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-05 11:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-05 23:46 +0530
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 19:41 -0400
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-08-10 14:44 +0200
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 12:31 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:21 -0400
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 07:17 +0800
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-07-31 12:21 -0300
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 01:48 +0800
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-05 13:13 -0300
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 21:48 +0000
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-08-06 09:05 +0200
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 11:33 -0700
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-06 15:49 -0300
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-06 20:23 -0400
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-07 09:36 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-07 11:58 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-08-08 19:02 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:59 -0400
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:59 -0400
                                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:56 +0000
                                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 17:38 -0400
                                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:57 +0000
                                                                      Reader macros (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-08-09 11:51 -0400
                                                                        Re: Reader macros Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:48 -0700
                                                              Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 05:33 +0800
                                                                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:11 -0700
                                                                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-10 14:57 +0000
                                                                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 13:10 -0700
                                                                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-10 17:41 -0300
                                                                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 23:53 +0000
                                                                    Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-11 14:29 +0000
                                                                    kqueues and port_create() (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:51 +0800
                                                                      Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:59 -0700
                                                                        Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 13:07 +0800
                                                                          Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 03:23 -0400
                                                                            Re: kqueues and port_create() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:50 +0000
                                                                              Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:33 +0800
                                                                            Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-12 02:22 -0700
                                                                              Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 20:55 -0400
                                                                            Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:37 +0800
                                                                        Re: kqueues and port_create() "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 12:59 -0700
                                                                    Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:26 +0100
                                                                  D.N.S. in Common Lisp (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:59 +0800
                                                                    Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-12 09:01 -0300
                                                                      Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:20 +0800
                                                                        Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-12 20:46 -0700
                                                                          Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 14:28 +0800
                                                                          Re: Making production games in Common Lisp bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:46 +0200
                                                                        Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 12:19 -0300
                                                                          Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:24 +0800
                                                                            Re: Making production games in Common Lisp ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-13 17:39 +0000
                                                                            Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 20:58 -0300
                                                                              Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:42 +0800
                                                                                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:46 +0100
                                                                                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:29 -0300
                                                                            Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-13 17:31 -0700
                                                                              Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:04 +0800
                                                                                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:52 -0700
                                                                            Re: Making production games in Common Lisp tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 10:27 +0000
                                                                              Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-15 01:19 +0800
                                                                        Re: Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-13 16:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:31 +0800
                                                                            Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:52 +0100
                                                                              Re: Making production games in Common Lisp tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:30 +0000
                                                                              Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-15 01:33 +0800
                                                                        Re: Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-15 19:44 -0400
                                                                          Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:06 -0300
                                                                          Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 02:28 +0800
                                                                            Re: Making production games in Common Lisp George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-21 15:23 -0400
                                                                              Databases with Common Lisp (was: Re: Making production games in Common Lisp) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 07:54 +0800
                                                                                Re: Databases with Common Lisp (was: Re: Making production games in Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-22 18:13 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Databases with Common Lisp steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-23 15:58 -0400
                                                                                  Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-08-23 23:08 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 10:24 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 19:29 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Dynamic scoping Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:26 +0800
                                                                              Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-23 21:03 +0530
                                                                                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 01:42 -0400
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-06 18:05 -0700
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 05:26 +0800
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-08 18:37 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-09 08:52 +0000
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-09 11:50 +0100
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 23:01 +0800
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 19:09 -0400
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-09 20:36 +0000
                                                                    What do you need from S.B.C.L? (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-10 05:32 +0800
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 19:02 -0400
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:56 +0100
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:30 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-12 16:31 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 17:07 +0000
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-12 17:20 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:28 +0800
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:54 -0700
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-08-11 20:20 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:51 -0700
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:35 -0400
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-18 21:34 -0700
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-21 02:12 -0400
                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-21 12:28 -0300
                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 09:17 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:52 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 03:27 -0700
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:16 +0000
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:03 -0700
                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:46 +0000
                                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:38 +0800
                                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:22 +0000
                                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 21:04 +0800
                                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 13:18 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 22:16 +0800
                                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 20:10 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:34 +0800
                                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 17:10 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:41 +0800
                                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-25 09:22 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-25 22:13 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-26 11:33 +0530
                                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-26 15:43 -0300
                                                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-26 18:23 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-27 14:43 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-27 13:01 -0700
                                                                                                  Continuations via macros (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-08-28 16:36 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Continuations via macros steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-04 22:01 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-29 03:06 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-04 22:15 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-16 14:56 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-16 13:42 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-17 20:03 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-09-17 00:12 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-17 19:36 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-17 21:19 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-20 07:18 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-09-20 16:31 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-21 04:40 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-22 05:30 -0400
                                                                                                            delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-22 11:24 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-22 19:03 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-09-24 19:48 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-24 20:53 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-24 21:13 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-24 21:21 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-27 08:02 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-29 17:03 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-27 20:39 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-28 17:29 -0300
                                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-26 19:06 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-27 07:57 -0400
                                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-08-24 13:19 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 20:37 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 15:18 -0400
                                                                      Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:51 +0000
                                                                        Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:08 -0700
                                                                          Re: Macros Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 10:01 +0100
                                                                          Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-08-15 12:58 +0000
                                                                            Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:27 -0300
                                                                            Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-26 00:56 -0700
                                                                              Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-26 19:55 -0300
                                                                          Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 11:08 +0000
                                                                            Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:41 +0800
                                                                              Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:31 +0000
                                                                                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 09:56 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 19:29 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-24 16:35 -0300
                                                                        Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:26 -0300
                                                                        Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-22 00:00 +0000
                                                                          Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 01:23 +0000
                                                                            Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-22 12:07 +0000
                                                                              Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 22:24 +0000
                                                                                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-22 23:08 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 23:22 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-23 00:23 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-25 00:13 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 10:17 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:45 +0800
                                                                                        Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:49 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 18:34 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-25 07:54 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-26 07:47 +0530
                                                                                              Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-26 02:58 +0000
                                                                                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 10:17 +0000
                                                                              Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-23 15:47 -0400
                                                                                Re: Macros Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-23 21:57 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Macros Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-23 22:21 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Macros Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:49 +0800
                                                                                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-23 22:37 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-23 23:47 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:51 +0800
                                                                                      Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 16:59 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 01:24 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-24 12:02 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 16:45 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-25 07:54 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-25 00:18 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-27 19:11 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 10:24 +0000
                                                                            Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:44 +0800
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 13:18 +0800
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-12 10:16 +0200
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-08-10 14:21 +0200
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-08-11 22:14 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:37 +0800
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-08 19:08 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 19:12 -0400
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-11 11:45 -0400
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 19:25 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-10 10:48 -0300
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 23:55 +0000
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 21:25 -0400
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-11 12:20 -0400
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-12 13:06 -0400
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 17:16 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 12:46 -0300
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-31 22:46 +0000
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 07:38 +0800
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:26 -0400
                                                              Making a C compiler in Rust (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:06 +0800
                                                                Re: Making a C compiler in Rust (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-21 11:34 +0100
                                                                  Re: Making a C compiler in Rust (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-21 14:13 +0300
                                                                    Re: Making a C compiler in Rust Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 02:23 +0800
                                                                Re: Making a C compiler in Rust Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-21 15:03 -0700
                                                                  Re: Making a C compiler in Rust Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 07:24 +0800
                                                                    Re: Making a C compiler in Rust Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-21 16:48 -0700
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-01 09:08 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-01 07:49 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-01 23:37 +0000
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 16:54 -0700
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-02 07:39 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:39 -0400
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 23:59 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 16:12 +0800
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:50 -0400
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:02 +0800
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 19:36 -0400
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 02:11 +0800
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:49 -0400
                                                                      Short wave radio, French (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:03 +0800
                                                                        Re: Short wave radio, French Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-24 10:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 20:07 +0800
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 17:13 -0700
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-04 21:46 -0400
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 13:08 -0700
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:48 -0400
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 20:34 -0700
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 06:00 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 00:52 -0700
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 07:55 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 13:35 -0700
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 22:25 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 17:37 -0700
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 03:53 +0000
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:26 -0400
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:50 +0000
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 23:52 -0400
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-01 05:24 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:47 -0400
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 02:54 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 23:11 -0400
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 07:31 +0000
                                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 19:25 -0400
                                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:46 +0000
                                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 21:10 -0400
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:26 +0800
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 13:05 -0700
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 23:34 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 00:07 +0000
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:49 +0000
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-06 05:23 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:26 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-09 12:04 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-07-09 14:42 +0000
                                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 19:33 +0000
                                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-07-09 21:29 +0000
                                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-10 07:37 +0000
                                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-10 10:17 +0000
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-10 03:35 -0700
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 17:32 -0400
                                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:48 +0000
                                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-30 21:37 -0400
                                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-04 00:49 +0000
                                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-04 09:56 +0800
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 08:31 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 08:31 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 08:08 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-29 08:57 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 09:47 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-29 10:03 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 10:44 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-29 11:05 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:42 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-29 11:09 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:45 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:50 -0400
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:43 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 15:55 -0400
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:46 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:47 -0400
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:39 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-30 13:47 -0700
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-01 10:26 -0400
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:38 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-01 18:47 -0700
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-01 18:52 -0700
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-07-02 20:33 -0400
                                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:50 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:42 +0000
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 08:06 +0000
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 11:41 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-07-03 19:37 -0400
                                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 18:29 -0700
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-04 09:40 -0400
                                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-07-08 19:07 -0400
                                                    boxing all integers (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-29 17:52 -0300
                                                      Re: boxing all integers (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-08-30 06:43 +0000
                                                      Re: boxing all integers (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-30 17:24 -0400
                                                        Re: boxing all integers (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-31 03:11 -0300
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-27 13:48 -0700
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:34 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 02:58 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-15 09:51 -0400
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 00:23 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 03:14 -0700
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 03:02 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-26 21:47 -0700
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 23:18 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 16:36 -0700
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 04:06 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-02 22:20 -0700
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 03:58 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 07:36 +0100
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:29 -0700
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 23:29 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 16:41 -0700
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 09:17 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-29 18:41 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 04:06 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-04 07:46 +0100
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:31 -0400
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:52 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-16 10:23 -0400
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 21:34 -0700
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-17 15:02 -0400
                                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 04:14 +0000
                                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-18 12:44 -0400
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 10:09 +0000
                                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-29 10:55 +0000
                                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 08:06 +0000
                                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-07-09 13:26 +0000
                                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-09 23:04 +0000
                                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-30 02:45 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 13:14 -0700
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 02:30 +0000
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 11:46 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-18 15:34 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-19 07:01 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-19 11:41 +0000
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:38 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:42 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 13:58 -0700
                                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 22:19 +0000
                      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:37 -0400
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 20:42 -0700
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:08 -0400
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-29 08:27 +0100
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 00:42 -0700
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-06-29 14:35 +0100
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-29 23:27 -0400
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-01 16:21 -0400
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:21 -0400
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-01 08:57 +0100
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-07-01 14:29 +0530
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-01 12:56 -0700
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:17 -0400
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-30 21:32 +0000
                        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 07:55 +0000
                          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-05 22:14 +0100
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 23:55 +0000
                              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-07-06 08:04 +0100
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-06 08:00 +0000
                                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Niocláisín Cóilín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-04 18:35 +0000
                                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 05:46 +0800
                            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:57 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:22 -0700
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:55 +0000
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tpeplt <tpeplt@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 17:44 -0500
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-21 12:30 +0100
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-20 23:50 +0000
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-21 00:24 +0000
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-02-21 11:36 +0100
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-21 12:44 +0100
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-03-31 17:47 -0400
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-31 23:41 +0000
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tpeplt <tpeplt@gmail.com> - 2026-04-01 13:23 -0400
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 21:59 -0400
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Peri Didaskalou <pfd@torfree.net> - 2026-05-01 10:52 -0400
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Peri Didaskalou <pfd@torfree.net> - 2026-05-01 10:57 -0400
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Peri Didaskalou <pfd@torfree.net> - 2026-05-01 11:06 -0400
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-01 14:56 -0400
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Robert B. Carleton" <rbc@rbcarleton.net> - 2026-06-01 23:02 +0000
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 21:32 -0400
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-03 03:16 +0000
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? kotorifan <mindyourownbiz@noemail.fuck> - 2026-08-02 16:42 +0000
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-02 22:53 +0000
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anthk GM <anthk@disroot.org> - 2026-08-13 13:40 +0000
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 23:46 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 10:25 +0000
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-02 16:56 -0700
      Common Lisp Books (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-03 17:56 +0800
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-13 12:35 +0200
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:36 +0800
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 17:57 -0400
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:16 -0300
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 01:11 +0000
          Abstract Syntax Trees in CorelDROW! (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 11:28 +0800

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#61586

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2026-08-24 17:10 -0700
Message-ID<87tsojm54k.fsf@nightsong.com>
In reply to#61573
tfb <tfb@work.it.out> writes:
> Do you really think that a thread about language extensibility and whether
> any given language could have enough co structs to satisfy all posdible
> users of that language had suddenly changed topic to how familiar an
> individual was with a given language?  

Fluency does matter.

If fluency in a language lets me do most of my daily tasks with at most
occasional inconvenience, I'd call the language satisfactory.  Stuff
like macros make inconvenient things convenient.  They don't make the
impossible possible.  And if the language makes enough everyday things
convenient, it's ok with me if some inconvenient ones are left over.

So I haven't felt lack of macros to be a serious shortcoming of non-Lisp
languages.  There are usually alternate mechanisms offered, like
function decorators in Python.

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#61592

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-08-25 10:41 +0800
Message-ID<Wh7jS.270$HM1.24@fx16.ams4>
In reply to#61586
On 25/08/2026 8:10 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> tfb <tfb@work.it.out> writes:
>> Do you really think that a thread about language extensibility and whether
>> any given language could have enough co structs to satisfy all posdible
>> users of that language had suddenly changed topic to how familiar an
>> individual was with a given language?
> 
> Fluency does matter.
> 
> If fluency in a language lets me do most of my daily tasks with at most
> occasional inconvenience, I'd call the language satisfactory.  Stuff
> like macros make inconvenient things convenient.  They don't make the
> impossible possible.  And if the language makes enough everyday things
> convenient, it's ok with me if some inconvenient ones are left over.
> 
> So I haven't felt lack of macros to be a serious shortcoming of non-Lisp
> languages.  There are usually alternate mechanisms offered, like
> function decorators in Python.

Thank you Paul.  Now, if we're in the realm of impossible, there's very
little that can be said to be truly /impossible/ in Common Lisp.  This
is because compilers like Steel Banks Common Lisp not only compile to
pure binary code, they also offer Lisp syntax to just write the function
in assembly.  This is apparent to anyone who's delved into the inner
guts of the compiler.

Now, when we can just casually switch over to the assembly language, the
/impossible/ is limited by the capabilities of the machine, and our
patience to get whatever we want done.

I mean, we can -- with enough patience and understanding, and reading of
the code -- just overwrite the Common Lisp compiler, and the binaries it
generates.

I believe that's impossible in Python, so again I invite Lawrence D'Oli-
veiro to correct me.

And on the subject of macros, we can always template program like it's
1976, and create our own textual code generator like Yacc.  Though we
don't have to create one in the context of parsing.  This trick works
equally in Python, and Common Lisp, but is for some reasons hardly ever
used in practice today.  Everyone seems to be hell bent on having the
programmability of the programming language itself embedded in the de-
fault compiler.  Why is that?

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#61595

Fromtfb <tfb@work.it.out>
Date2026-08-25 09:22 +0000
Message-ID<116jmt4$3jrlq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#61586
oPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> Fluency does matter.

Absolutely so.  Interestingly it's possible to not be fluent in languages
(or language constructs) that you've designed: after Zyni and I wrote Štar
(an iteration construct for CL), it took me months to become comfortable
enough in it to use it to the exclusion of most of the standard ones.  Some
of this was worry about how large the support for it was (entirely silly on
modern systems) and performance (we had benchmarks, but somehow these
didn't help convince me), but part of it was just 'how do I get it to do
that, erm ...'.

> 
> If fluency in a language lets me do most of my daily tasks with at most
> occasional inconvenience, I'd call the language satisfactory.  Stuff
> like macros make inconvenient things convenient.  They don't make the
> impossible possible.  And if the language makes enough everyday things
> convenient, it's ok with me if some inconvenient ones are left over.
> 
> So I haven't felt lack of macros to be a serious shortcoming of non-Lisp
> languages.  There are usually alternate mechanisms offered, like
> function decorators in Python.
> 

And that's fine.  There are people for whom Fortran (I mean FORTRAN,
probably, because modern Fortran is a large and flexible language only
really related to anything older than Fortran 90 by some backward
compatibility) is a language in which they are fluent and who feel no need
for any other language.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

But if I asserted that nobody should want a language other than FORTRAN,
that would probably be something quite a lot of people would take issue
with.  And they would be right.

If I asserted that *any single* programming language should be something
every person is comfortable with then I think people would take issue with
that, as well.  There would probably be some extremists who would say,
well, if only everyone saw and understood the blinding light of
(Python|Ruby|Lisp) then they would achieve true happiness.  But those
people are pushing what is essentially a cult.  And empirically those
people are just wrong: if they were right, why are there so many
programming languages?  Why are there both Python cultists and Ruby
cultists if there is more than one true language?  Do we need some kind of
purge of the nonbelievers?

Well, perhaps there is some finite and fairly small set of languages that
would meet everyone's requirements for comfort?  If that were so, why do
people endlessly invent new ones?  If there is a finite set, we're clearly
not close to reaching it yet.

I suggest that the set of languages which would mean *everyone* was
comfortable is not usefully finite.  If  hardware architecture was
unchanging and there was a fixed set of problem domains it conceivably
might be, but neither of those things is true.  Modern Fortran has grown
all sorts of new constructs designed to deal with what modern
supercomputers look like, for instance.

Language exploration and modification therefore matters.  It may not matter
for you, or for me: we may be fluent in and comfortable with our fixed
languages (they might even be the same language).  But *that means
nothing*: it still matters.

And (this is the contentious bit): I think that, since it matters, removing
barriers to it also matters.  It will never be easy, but it shouldn't
require designing a whole new language to explore one idea.  It should be
possible to write functions in an existing language which map constructs
expressing that new (or borrowed) idea into the existing language.  Those
functions have a name: macros.  You may not want to use them: that is not
an argument that they are not useful to other people, and to pretend it is
would be as grotesquely arrogant as if I was to say that because *I* have
no use for a church it should be demolished.


-- 
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#61598

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2026-08-25 22:13 -0700
Message-ID<87fr01mplp.fsf@nightsong.com>
In reply to#61595
tfb <tfb@work.it.out> writes:
> There would probably be some extremists who would say, well, if only
> everyone saw and understood the blinding light of (Python|Ruby|Lisp)
> then they would achieve true happiness.

The Blub fallacy.  Yes it applies to CL just like to anything else.

> It should be possible to write functions in an existing language which
> map constructs expressing that new (or borrowed) idea into the
> existing language.  Those functions have a name: macros.

Meh, if the old language can express the new idea at all, then the new
idea isn't that big of a change.  Like try implementing Scheme
continuations as macros in CL.

There's a theoretical paper by Felleisen about what really adds
expressive power to programming languages.  Sadly, I don't understand
it, but maybe someday.

https://www2.ccs.neu.edu/racket/pubs/scp91-felleisen.pdf

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#61599

FromMadhu <enometh@meer.net>
Date2026-08-26 11:33 +0530
Message-ID<m31pblzadi.fsf@pison.robolove.meer.net>
In reply to#61598
* Paul Rubin <87fr01mplp.fsf@nightsong.com> :
Wrote on Tue, 25 Aug 2026 22:13:06 -0700:

> The Blub fallacy.  Yes it applies to CL just like to anything else.

Caveat.

Blub a bunch of other modern "fallacies" is a product of "israeli
propaganda". it does not automatically apply, and is wont to be applied
in situations it does not apply, for propagnda points.

the fallacy itself is cleverly constructed as a thought engineering
brainwashing mindcontrol tool, and the application to argument serves
the purpose of identifying those who apply the argument, rather than
those on whom the argument is directed. (kindof like dunning-kruger)

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#61601

FromAnton Antimo <anton@safunu.org>
Date2026-08-26 15:43 -0300
Message-ID<87tsogiuxx.fsf@safunu.org>
In reply to#61598
Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> writes:

> tfb <tfb@work.it.out> writes:
>> There would probably be some extremists who would say, well, if only
>> everyone saw and understood the blinding light of (Python|Ruby|Lisp)
>> then they would achieve true happiness.
>
> The Blub fallacy.  Yes it applies to CL just like to anything else.
>
>> It should be possible to write functions in an existing language which
>> map constructs expressing that new (or borrowed) idea into the
>> existing language.  Those functions have a name: macros.
>
> Meh, if the old language can express the new idea at all, then the new
> idea isn't that big of a change.  Like try implementing Scheme
> continuations as macros in CL.

Doug Hoyte does it in Let Over Lambda. But even if we have here a case
where things don't work out so well, one case won't break the efficacy
of all other cases.

> There's a theoretical paper by Felleisen about what really adds
> expressive power to programming languages.  Sadly, I don't understand
> it, but maybe someday.
>
> https://www2.ccs.neu.edu/racket/pubs/scp91-felleisen.pdf

Care to share what you don't understand about the paper?  I suppose the
subject is still interesting to the newsgroups addressed here, though it
leans more towards comp.lang.misc and comp.theory and sci.logic.

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#61604

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2026-08-26 18:23 -0700
Message-ID<877blcmk4z.fsf@nightsong.com>
In reply to#61601
Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> writes:
>> Like try implementing Scheme continuations as macros in CL.
> Doug Hoyte does it in Let Over Lambda.

I don't see how that is possible, other than by using the Turing
completeness of CL macros to implement Scheme, more or less.
Continuations automatically give you stackful coroutines and that
requires runtime support that's not built into CL.  I haven't read that
book though.

>> https://www2.ccs.neu.edu/racket/pubs/scp91-felleisen.pdf
> Care to share what you don't understand about the paper?

It's written in the academic language of PL theory, which I haven't
studied enough to make sense of what the paper is saying.

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#61606

Fromantispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch)
Date2026-08-27 14:43 +0000
Message-ID<116pidp$3n6fk$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#61604
In comp.lang.c Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> writes:
>>> Like try implementing Scheme continuations as macros in CL.
>> Doug Hoyte does it in Let Over Lambda.
> 
> I don't see how that is possible, other than by using the Turing
> completeness of CL macros to implement Scheme, more or less.
> Continuations automatically give you stackful coroutines and that
> requires runtime support that's not built into CL.  I haven't read that
> book though.

One way to implement continuations is to convert program to
"continuation passing style" and have garbage collection of
the stack.  Continuation passing style means that you explicitely
pass next function to call to each function.  And normally
functions do not return, simply tail-call to passed
"continuation".  This transform could be done by a macro,
a hairy one as it needs to walk over arbitrary Lisp form
and transform each call to user function inside them.  After
such transformation there will be a lot more of stack frames
than before.  Most of the stack frames will be unreachable.
Without garbage collection of the stack you will rather
quickly run out of stack space.  If implementation is garbage
collecting stack frames, then the code will run OK.

In principle one can get a bit further than that.  Namely, if
all calls are tail calls and there is no need to preseve data
in the stack frame (in particular no closure references the
data), then good implementation will immediately reclaim the
stack frame.  So a macro could put all needed data in heap
allocated data structure, so that nontrivial part of garbage
collection is done by normal garbage collection and on the
stack one only need the easy case.

That basically is equvalent to treating Lisp as a garbage
collected assembly language, with tail calls performing duty
of goto.  The macro works as a compiler from AST-s to this
assembly language.  One still gets benefits of reusing
garbage collector.  OTOH macros play kind of trivial role
here, they allow you to pretend that the new language is
part of Common Lisp by mixing CL code with new code inside
the same file and without explicit markers indicating which
language is in use.  But clearly, if you do not ever return
from a function, then UNWIND-PROTECT will not work as intended.
Calling convention is clearly incompatible with Lisp one,
so one will need a kind of FFI to perform calls between Lisp
and new language.  And since Lisp does not obey continuation
passing convention semantics will be hairy if there is a
nontrivial interaction.

Concerning macros: continuation passing transformation can be
programmed in any language and effort to do so will be comparable
for languages that have good support for handling tree-like
data structures.  Validity of the apprach depends on tail call
optimization, but that is available in implementations of
several languages.  For languages without macros the most
natural way is to put code in new language in separate files.
In a language without REPL one can use some syntactic markers
to mix code in host language with new one.  If there is a REPL
and say EVAL, than one can implement new REPL for the new
language.  If the host language (like Lisp) has convenient
notation for defining AST-s, then one can write AST-s for new
language in host language and than pass them to the compiler.

Anyway, once macros get hairy they need similar effort as
alternative approches.

-- 
                              Waldek Hebisch

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#61607

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2026-08-27 13:01 -0700
Message-ID<8733vzmixj.fsf@nightsong.com>
In reply to#61606
antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) writes:
> And normally functions do not return, simply tail-call to passed
> "continuation".

Continuations are nontrivial precisely because of the non-tail-call
case, where the continuation is re-used.  So you can use them to
implement coroutines, multitasking, etc.  If they can't do that, they're
not "full" continuations.  I don't see how to implement full
continuations using CL macros.

There is some sentiment[1] in the Scheme world that mandating full
continuations in Scheme was a mistake and that it would have been
preferable to stop with "delimited" or "one-shot" continuations.  Those
are maybe closer to catch/throw than to coroutines.  I don't know if
those can be done with CL macros but it seems more plausible.

[1] https://okmij.org/ftp/continuations/against-callcc.html

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#61613 — Continuations via macros (was: Resources to learn common lisp?)

FromStefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Date2026-08-28 16:36 -0400
SubjectContinuations via macros (was: Resources to learn common lisp?)
Message-ID<jwv1pbikn1x.fsf-monnier+comp.lang.lisp@gnu.org>
In reply to#61607
Paul Rubin [2026-08-27 13:01:44] wrote:
> antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) writes:
>> And normally functions do not return, simply tail-call to passed
>> "continuation".
> Continuations are nontrivial precisely because of the non-tail-call
> case, where the continuation is re-used.  So you can use them to
> implement coroutines, multitasking, etc.  If they can't do that, they're
> not "full" continuations.  I don't see how to implement full
> continuations using CL macros.

Like most cases of "impossibility" the result depends on the details of
the question:

AFAIK it's impossible to implement support for `call/cc` via macros in
Common Lisp *if* you want the affected code to be able to transparently
call arbitrary "external" functions like (say) `mapcar`.

OTOH, you can definitely implement a Common Lisp macro that takes as
argument code written in a DSL which happens to be a language that looks
exactly like Common Lisp except it includes a `call/cc` primitive
(and in which you can (re)implement `mapcar`).

> There is some sentiment[1] in the Scheme world that mandating full
> continuations in Scheme was a mistake and that it would have been
> preferable to stop with "delimited" or "one-shot" continuations.  Those
> are maybe closer to catch/throw than to coroutines.  I don't know if
> those can be done with CL macros but it seems more plausible.

AFAIK they bump into the same problem as `call/cc` w.r.t implementing
them as macros.


=== Stefan

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#61626 — Re: Continuations via macros

Fromsteve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
Date2026-09-04 22:01 -0400
SubjectRe: Continuations via macros
Message-ID<87o6eczcas.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#61613
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:


> AFAIK it's impossible to implement support for `call/cc` via macros in
> Common Lisp *if* you want the affected code to be able to transparently
> call arbitrary "external" functions like (say) `mapcar`.
>
> OTOH, you can definitely implement a Common Lisp macro that takes as
> argument code written in a DSL which happens to be a language that looks
> exactly like Common Lisp except it includes a `call/cc` primitive
> (and in which you can (re)implement `mapcar`).
>
>> There is some sentiment[1] in the Scheme world that mandating full
>> continuations in Scheme was a mistake and that it would have been
>> preferable to stop with "delimited" or "one-shot" continuations.  Those
>> are maybe closer to catch/throw than to coroutines.  I don't know if
>> those can be done with CL macros but it seems more plausible.
>
> AFAIK they bump into the same problem as `call/cc` w.r.t implementing
> them as macros.


I have always wondered if using the environment would suffice as a
inter-procedural reality. common-lisp is not very informative about
this.

(defmacro that (&env environment)
  (push 'this-is-true environment)
  (this))

(defmacro this (&env environmenr)
  (how to you push or pop environment)..


I suppose you could always use &aux ?

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#61614

Fromantispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch)
Date2026-08-29 03:06 +0000
Message-ID<116tib9$8gg0$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#61607
Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) writes:
>> And normally functions do not return, simply tail-call to passed
>> "continuation".
> 
> Continuations are nontrivial precisely because of the non-tail-call
> case, where the continuation is re-used.  So you can use them to
> implement coroutines, multitasking, etc.  If they can't do that, they're
> not "full" continuations.  I don't see how to implement full
> continuations using CL macros.

Le me try again.  Do you see how to implement continuations at say
assembler level?  If not, then I affraid that CL macros will not
help you.  At assembly level each function has some machine code
and environment.  In simple case environment reduces to stack frame,
it is created when function is invoked and destroyed when it exits.
Closures complicate this, function may access lexical variable of
containing functions and we must ensure that this access is possible
even after retrun from containing function.  Continations add similar
problem, we can only discard a stack frame if it is not reachable
via continations or closures.  One possible way to do this is to have
garbage collector capable of garbage collecting stack frame.  But
there is another possiblity, namely to keep only return address on
the stack and keeping all other data in heap.  In such case tail
call optimization will ensure bounded stack use, so no need to
garbage collect stack frames.

As I wrote, idea is to treat Lisp as a garbage collected assembly
language.  With tail call optimization calls are translated to
goto-s, so collection of Lisp functions can implement arbitrary
control flow.  If additinaly all local variables are collected
into a data structure allocated at function entry and if needed
passed as an extra argument, then your program at abstract level
will work as before, but data which previously was stored on the
stack is on the heap.  After contination passing transformation
you may support continations.

How macros enter the picture: Lisp macro can perform arbitrary
transformation, in particular can "compile" code into low
level form indicated above.  In a sense this is Turing completeness,
but we avoid general argument going via interpretation and
instead use compilation.  And this clearly depends on ability
to do non-local transformations.  Simple AST substitution
would be too weak.

AFAICS main trouble with continuations is efficiency.  If you
do not need efficiency, then implementing continuations is just
some extra work, but otherwise not a problem.  Trouble is that
relatively easy tactic of allocating stack frames on the heap
puts serious load on garbage collector and on caches.  If
program is doing small number of function calls, then impact
may be negligible.  But people wanting continuations are
likely to have a lot of function calls in their programs and
speed is likely to suffer.  So basically, you need to do
some serious optimization work which would be unnecessery
in language that does not implement continuations.

-- 
                              Waldek Hebisch

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#61627

Fromsteve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
Date2026-09-04 22:15 -0400
Message-ID<87jyp0zbnz.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#61614
antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) writes:

> Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) writes:
>>> And normally functions do not return, simply tail-call to passed
>>> "continuation".
>>
>> Continuations are nontrivial precisely because of the non-tail-call
>> case, where the continuation is re-used.  So you can use them to
>> implement coroutines, multitasking, etc.  If they can't do that, they're
>> not "full" continuations.  I don't see how to implement full
>> continuations using CL macros.


> Le me try again.  Do you see how to implement continuations at say
> assembler level?

I remeber, actually not really. I remeber this intel used to have a
leave and enter statement. This would allow for local space for local
functions and such. I believe they were called frames or leaves? dunno.
it was a long time ago. This was before threads.

> If not, then I affraid that CL macros will not
> help you.  At assembly level each function has some machine code
> and environment.  In simple case environment reduces to stack frame,
> it is created when function is invoked and destroyed when it exits.
> Closures complicate this, function may access lexical variable of
> containing functions and we must ensure that this access is possible
> even after retrun from containing function.  Continations add similar
> problem, we can only discard a stack frame if it is not reachable
> via continations or closures.  One possible way to do this is to have
> garbage collector capable of garbage collecting stack frame.

you just subtract the stack pointer assuming you're not using frames. (It has been a long time).


> But
> there is another possiblity, namely to keep only return address on
> the stack and keeping all other data in heap.  In such case tail
> call optimization will ensure bounded stack use, so no need to
> garbage collect stack frames.

I usually use alloca in C. that takes care of all this mess of
assembler, CPU #/type , in terms of stack memory.


> As I wrote, idea is to treat Lisp as a garbage collected assembly
> language.  With tail call optimization calls are translated to
> goto-s, so collection of Lisp functions can implement arbitrary
> control flow.  If additinaly all local variables are collected
> into a data structure allocated at function entry and if needed
> passed as an extra argument, then your program at abstract level
> will work as before, but data which previously was stored on the
> stack is on the heap.  After contination passing transformation
> you may support continations.

> How macros enter the picture: Lisp macro can perform arbitrary
> transformation, in particular can "compile" code into low
> level form indicated above.  In a sense this is Turing completeness,
> but we avoid general argument going via interpretation and
> instead use compilation.  And this clearly depends on ability
> to do non-local transformations.  Simple AST substitution
> would be too weak.

> AFAICS main trouble with continuations is efficiency.

this is the common complaint.

> If you do not need efficiency, then implementing continuations is just
> some extra work, but otherwise not a problem. Trouble is that
> relatively easy tactic of allocating stack frames on the heap puts
> serious load on garbage collector and on caches. If program is doing
> small number of function calls, then impact may be negligible. But
> people wanting continuations are likely to have a lot of function
> calls in their programs and speed is likely to suffer. So basically,
> you need to do some serious optimization work which would be
> unnecessery in language that does not implement continuations.

I never could figure out call/cc .

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#61646

Fromsteve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
Date2026-09-16 14:56 -0400
Message-ID<87pkydja84.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#61607
Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> writes:

> antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) writes:
>> And normally functions do not return, simply tail-call to passed
>> "continuation".
>
> Continuations are nontrivial precisely because of the non-tail-call
> case, where the continuation is re-used.  So you can use them to
> implement coroutines, multitasking, etc.  If they can't do that, they're
> not "full" continuations.  I don't see how to implement full
> continuations using CL macros.
>
> There is some sentiment[1] in the Scheme world that mandating full
> continuations in Scheme was a mistake and that it would have been
> preferable to stop with "delimited" or "one-shot" continuations.  Those
> are maybe closer to catch/throw than to coroutines.  I don't know if
> those can be done with CL macros but it seems more plausible.
>
> [1] https://okmij.org/ftp/continuations/against-callcc.html

I believe that these call/cc continuations were created far before
threads. Being I don't use either; just wondering if they are similiar.

thanx

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#61647

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2026-09-16 13:42 -0700
Message-ID<874ifpj5ca.fsf@nightsong.com>
In reply to#61646
steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> writes:
> I believe that these call/cc continuations were created far before
> threads. Being I don't use either; just wondering if they are similiar.

There is some conceptual overlap between continuations and OS threads,
but the traditional implementations are totally different.
Continuations are more general and you can simulate almost every control
method with them, including loops, subroutines, threads, exceptions,
etc.  Their behaviour can be complicated and paradoxical.  The Okmij
post that I linked argues that Scheme would been better off with a
simpler primitive.

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#61652

FromGeorge Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net>
Date2026-09-17 20:03 -0400
Message-ID<mcuoallkdgve2s2f5v1l7f84uinsrnjang@4ax.com>
In reply to#61647
On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 13:42:29 -0700, Paul Rubin
<no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> writes:
>> I believe that these call/cc continuations were created far before
>> threads. Being I don't use either; just wondering if they are similiar.
>
>There is some conceptual overlap between continuations and OS threads,
>but the traditional implementations are totally different.
>Continuations are more general and you can simulate almost every control
>method with them, including loops, subroutines, threads, exceptions,
>etc.  Their behaviour can be complicated and paradoxical.  The Okmij
>post that I linked argues that Scheme would been better off with a
>simpler primitive.

Scheme's continuations are the way they are because Scheme was meant
to support research.  Scheme's creators wanted the /most/ powerful
primitive available, and as you [Paul] noted, almost any control
structure can be accomplished using call/cc.

However, call/cc is not easy to understand and [ignoring upward
"escape" uses] not easy to use correctly ... but I have trouble
believing Scheme could have accomplished what its developers wanted
using something else. 


I don't happen to like the scoping aspect of call/cc, I would have
preferred something simpler - like C's setjmp/longjmp, or a more
general version of Lisp's tagbody/go - ie. a way to save a spot to
jump to, and a way to jump to it.  Scheme's function call invocation
syntax doesn't bother me [that is compiler magic invisible to the
programmer].

YMMV.

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#61648

Fromantispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch)
Date2026-09-17 00:12 +0000
Message-ID<118fb9l$20snp$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#61646
steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> writes:
> 
>> antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) writes:
>>> And normally functions do not return, simply tail-call to passed
>>> "continuation".
>>
>> Continuations are nontrivial precisely because of the non-tail-call
>> case, where the continuation is re-used.  So you can use them to
>> implement coroutines, multitasking, etc.  If they can't do that, they're
>> not "full" continuations.  I don't see how to implement full
>> continuations using CL macros.
>>
>> There is some sentiment[1] in the Scheme world that mandating full
>> continuations in Scheme was a mistake and that it would have been
>> preferable to stop with "delimited" or "one-shot" continuations.  Those
>> are maybe closer to catch/throw than to coroutines.  I don't know if
>> those can be done with CL macros but it seems more plausible.
>>
>> [1] https://okmij.org/ftp/continuations/against-callcc.html
> 
> I believe that these call/cc continuations were created far before
> threads. Being I don't use either; just wondering if they are similiar.

OS360 had tasks.  And a single program could have multiple tasks,
which is mutithreading, just adapted to OS360 conventions.  I think
that continuations came later than that.

-- 
                              Waldek Hebisch

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#61651

FromGeorge Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net>
Date2026-09-17 19:36 -0400
Message-ID<s1toald3f304k34sstgjm0lvgp0rk56q85@4ax.com>
In reply to#61646
On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 14:56:59 -0400, steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> writes:
>
>> antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) writes:
>>> And normally functions do not return, simply tail-call to passed
>>> "continuation".
>>
>> Continuations are nontrivial precisely because of the non-tail-call
>> case, where the continuation is re-used.  So you can use them to
>> implement coroutines, multitasking, etc.  If they can't do that, they're
>> not "full" continuations.  I don't see how to implement full
>> continuations using CL macros.
>>
>> There is some sentiment[1] in the Scheme world that mandating full
>> continuations in Scheme was a mistake and that it would have been
>> preferable to stop with "delimited" or "one-shot" continuations.  Those
>> are maybe closer to catch/throw than to coroutines.  I don't know if
>> those can be done with CL macros but it seems more plausible.
>>
>> [1] https://okmij.org/ftp/continuations/against-callcc.html
>
>I believe that these call/cc continuations were created far before
>threads. Being I don't use either; just wondering if they are similiar.
>
>thanx

Continuations [as in "a jump target"] pre-date threads [as in
"scheduler entity"] - though not by much.

As someone mentioned, OS360 had "tasks" which essentially were
separate [scheduler] threads, in 1964.

Continuations as we think of them today really were introduced with
Scheme in ~1975,  however they are just a more modern approach to code
"threading", which was known already to assembler programmers in the
1950s.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threaded_code

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#61653

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2026-09-17 21:19 -0700
Message-ID<87zexfi43k.fsf@nightsong.com>
In reply to#61651
George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> writes:
> Continuations as we think of them today really were introduced with
> Scheme in ~1975,  however they are just a more modern approach to code
> "threading", 

A Scheme-style continuation in full generality has to save a copy of
the activation stack, and be able to restore it multiple times.

What Oleg (okmij.org) wanted instead was "one-shot" or "delimited"
continuations, maybe closer to ordinary stackful coroutines.  They still
have to save and restore the stack, but only once.  I've never tried to
understand either type very carefully though.

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#61662

FromGeorge Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net>
Date2026-09-20 07:18 -0400
Message-ID<ehfvalddooh2252t07igs675undstavv28@4ax.com>
In reply to#61653
On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 21:19:11 -0700, Paul Rubin
<no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> writes:
>> Continuations as we think of them today really were introduced with
>> Scheme in ~1975,  however they are just a more modern approach to code
>> "threading", 
>
>A Scheme-style continuation in full generality has to save a copy of
>the activation stack, and be able to restore it multiple times.

That is true ... however, if the program is in CPS, its state at any
particular time is just a single activation record [for the current
function] - not an entire stack of them.


>What Oleg (okmij.org) wanted instead was "one-shot" or "delimited"
>continuations, maybe closer to ordinary stackful coroutines.  They still
>have to save and restore the stack, but only once.  I've never tried to
>understand either type very carefully though.

I've never figured out what makes "delimited" continuations different
from general continuations except that the implementation constrains
where a "delimited" continuation may be invoked.  But that seems to be
a difference in usage rather than in kind.

Upward "escape" continuations essentially are one-shots because,
although there could be many instances due to reentrance or recursion,
any particular instance of the continuation can be invoked only once.

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